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Topic: sleep of no dreaming
Posted By: sydbarrett2010
Subject: sleep of no dreaming
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 11:58
what do you think of sleep of no dreaming lyric?



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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 13:11
I don't know, because...

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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 13:19
because.... I've never heard of them?


Posted By: asyftaos
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 13:19
r u talkin about a band or about the porcupine tree song?


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 13:27
my sig:
"The screaming sky won't let me sleep."


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Posted By: enigma
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 13:41
Seems to be about death/suicide to me

"At the age of 16 I grew out of hope
I regarded the cosmos through a circle of rope"

The sleep of no dreaming is death imo. However, I've played that song many times but only recently actually listened to the words. It's pretty depressing, but the music is great


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 14:03
Originally posted by sydbarrett2010 sydbarrett2010 wrote:

what do you think of sleep of no dreaming lyric?
First - what do you think of it? You must have some idea of what it's about - let's hear your views.
 
 
The actual title is "The Sleep of No Dreaming", which significanly changes the meaning IMO.
 


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 14:53
I looked up the lyrics though I've known the song for a while now.  I found this on a site called Songfacts:

This song is about a man who stops believing in Christianity and "grows out of hope" for an afterlife. The song describes an Atheistic viewpoint of a "sleep of no dreaming"; meaning there is nothing after death. (thanks, Adam - Melbourne, FL)

Apparently in the song it's sung "The sleep of no feeling".  What I'm really curious about now is "As the world in my TV
Leaked onto my shoes " LOL

But yeah, I'm with Dean.  Give us your thoughts...




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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 17:52
What's with this trend of Porcupine tree song title threads? Why can't there just be a singular "Porcupine tree Lyrics Appreciation" thread? this seems like it's starting to go overboard and take attention away from more deserving threads.

If you ask me, swilson is something of a mediocre lyricist at best. I've always found his lyrics to be rather cold and distant. he doesn't quite "get" what it means to be human,he seems to view it from this outer almost robotic perspective. It really takes you out of the experience.

Peter Hammill deserves a lyric appreciation thread way more than swilson.


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 21:34
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by sydbarrett2010 sydbarrett2010 wrote:

what do you think of sleep of no dreaming lyric?
First - what do you think of it? You must have some idea of what it's about - let's hear your views.
 
 
The actual title is "The Sleep of No Dreaming", which significanly changes the meaning IMO.
 
 
I've always thought this was a nice little dig at Carlos Castaneda ... and his book "The Art of Dreaming", which is one of the best outlines as to how one can learn from their dreams ... but it is way too deeply hidden in the story line and strangeness of the story.
 
There was, more than one, in that book that there is a question about sleeping and "not dreaming" ... just plain rest ... to which Don Juan plainly says ... find out for yourself. Why you asking me? ... which suggested that there is a side of it all that is possible and do'able, but it is not "describable", and it is not of this world.  Mostly because we do not have the terminology to be able to describe it. And this has been around as a concept before via John Lilly (The Center of the Cyclone) and Rober Monroe (Journeys out of the Body) and also Edgar Cayce. And also by many other mystics going back hundreds of years but not having the terminology for it all that we do today. Castaneda would have been already burnt at the stake 500 years ago even before his first book was published!
 
Taisha Abelar (The Sorcerer's Crossing) and Florinda Donner (Being in Dreaming), both from the Castaneda styled works, also wrote beautifully about the subject, and they are much better than Carlos ever was, and their ability to bring this down to our body level is much better suited for understanding and learning than the idealistic and conceptual style of Carlos that had us wondering all the time! Both the ladies are far better writers and much more "centered" on the work, than they are centered in "ideas".


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 07:33
It's been a while since
Last Night the Moon Came Dropping Its Clothes in the Street
Maybe one day I'll again somewhere will it does once again.


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