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Topic: EspirituPosted By: toroddfuglesteg
Subject: Espiritu
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 04:28
This Argentinian progrock band was rooted in '69 when singer Fernando Bergé and guitar player Osvaldo Favrot founded Onda Corta. After many changes in the line-up the band featured Carlos Goler on drums, Claudio Martinez on bass and of course prime movers Fernando and Osvaldo in '72. Under their new name Espiritu the band gave a serie of gigs in '73 and released a single entitled "Soy la Noche". It was received well, Espiritu started to rehearse for their debut album and added a keyboard-player, first David Lebon but when he left Gustavo Fedel was willing to replace him. In this line-up Espiritu released their first album entitled "Crisalida" in '75, a fine symphonic rock record with echoes from Genesis and Yes.
The band then went through some changes and periods of inactivity until I managed to catch up with Osvaldo Favrot in August 2010 for an email interview. Here is what he had to say about Espiritu.
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Your
biography has been covered in your ProgArchives profile so let's bypass this
and go straight to the meat. How was it to
run a rock band during the military juntas years in the 1970s, ending with the
Las Malvinas war in 1982 and the restoration of democracy ?
It was a very hard for
everything that meant art or culture. The control and censorship were
everywhere and many artists and musicians had to emigrate. Many songs
were banned, were blacklisted radios, rock bands were under scrutiny and all
that we had long hair and beard were
suspects.
The military
governments were already from the 60, s, with a democratic era from 1973 until
the military coup of 1976. Despite this, the
Argentine rock movement continued with bands that marked one of the most
creative periods of popular music in Argentina, but with little or no
diffusion of mass media.
The form of dissemination was
through magazines like "Pelo", "Mordisco", "Expreso Imaginario", where fans
followed the activities of gangs. The Malvinas war in 1982 marked the final collapse
of the military junta. The beginning of democracy allowed rock bands to
reach the mass media, and the concerts are packed with people tired of the
oppression and censorship.
In the 60's kicked off the rock movement in Argentina, with the first
bands singing in Spanish. Those who set the course was Los Gatos, Vox Dei,
Almendra, Manal ..... In the 70's was a period of great creativity
with bands such as Sui Generis, Mia, Crucis, La Máquina
de Hacer Pájaros, Invisible, Aquelarre, Espíritu, Seru
Giran...
In
the 80s Argentine rock finally comes to mass media with bands like Virus,
Los
Abuelos de la Nada,
Soda Stereo ,..... but none of progressive rock.
Over to your albums, please give me your long or
brief thoughts on.........
Crisalida from 1975
Conceptual
album prepared for 1 year. The metamorphosis of a man going through the
chrysalis. From the lowest to the highest. God is named, but not the God of any religion. God
is closer to the Aristotelian. The unmoved move. Composed in two movements for
20 minutes. The first movement is the worm and the second movement is
the butterfly. It's an album made from the
mind, intertwined.
Libre Y Natural (Free And Natural) from
1976
Conceptual
album prepared for 1 month. To be free and
natural in a society that corners and you will increasingly control.
Published just the year of the Military coup. Music more rough and tough that "Chrysalis" but with
lyrics of peace and freedom. Composed in a 20-minute movement, which
eventually became two movements of 17 minutes each. It's an album made from the heart and unfettered.
This is my favorite.
Espiritu III from
1982
This is an original vinyl
album which had eight tracks. In CD reissues added three bonus
live. Very different from the first two albums. They are independent songs and
their lyrics are related to dreams. This is
what I said on the occasion of his reedition:
“This was one of the very few symphonic
Progressive albums launched in Argentina during the 80’s and that in itself
positions the record in a priviledged category. This is yet further proof of
the labour of love which went into its making, without yielding to the
commercial preferences and latest fashion of the time”
Live ''En
Obras'' '82 from 1996
This album
comes the concert we gave on June 12, 1982 in the Stadium Works "of the city
of Buenos Aires with a capacity for 5,000 people. With music from the first 3
albums. This concert was organized from the
beginning of 1982 when there was no suspicion that Argentina go to war with
the United Kingdom. We try to suspend but all advertising was recruited and
signed contracts. Two days before the concert there is the news that all
public entertainment suspended, and by that time it was known that the war was
lost. I suffered a decompensation and had to be attended to urgently.
There was not much mood to go to concerts and
lots of progressive rock press did not support the show as the musical style
of "Espiritu" was compared to British
progressive.
They
recorded two cassettes of 60 minutes each console directly from the sound
heard as the public. The
first tape was stolen during the concert and never found, and the second
cassette was recovered the next day he was still in the deck. I kept it 13
years until the seal Worldwide Progressive Rock Brazil was interested in
releasing it in 1996. Digitized from a cassette, more than an album is a
document of that live performance.
En Movimiento from
1983
It is a difficult album for fans of the
band. The singer Berge, had moved away to start a solo career. A major
producer offers to release a new album on RCA Victor. Unable to find a singer who would sing progressive rock (in 1983
all sang pop, punk, new wave, etc, etc.) Chose because I would act as the
guitarist and vocalist. There are 9 songs.
6 of them are quite well achieved. If I
hear the other 3 I feel like an elephant crush my
head.
Fronteras Mágicas from 2003
When I decided
to record this album I had to decide whether he would do something similar to
what the band recorded in the 70's or if I should do something different.
I never did things by nostalgia, I think that
things done in the 70's belong to that time and should not continue to copy
the same thing over and over again. I do not
like current bands whose music is equal to that of large groups of 30 years
ago. And so we decided to make a “Fronteras Mágicas” new proposal to our fans
and take the risk. It should not resemble any previous album of the band. I
put more emphasis on melodies and lyrics. We try to avoid changes of rhythm
and arrangements that not contribute to the message. We do not use digital
keyboards. The musicians come from different styles like electronic music,
progressive, pop, classical. All this put in the blender resulted in an album
with his own style and own sound. The fans accepted him very well,
especially the young. The older fans always expect to recover the music that
surprised when they were young. The work of
the musician is trying to surprised them here and
now.
En Vivo – 2004 from
2005
It is a journey through the
history of the band. Recorded during the
concerts of 2004, digital cassette, Without re-recording. I'd rather
have some mistakes but that is what was actually played live. These concerts were filmed with several digital
cameras with the intent to edit a DVD. The high costs of publishing and
distribution and low sales expectations, (and everyone gets off the Internet)
make it impossible to produce this material. There are some videos on
youtube but they are not these shows.
Your last
album was in 2003. There has been some long periods of inactivity in Espiritu.
What were you doing in those breaks ?
I Participated on albums by
singers well known in Argentina. I wrote TV commercials and audiovisual. I recorded some solo
songs. I have graduated with a degree in Food Technology and worked for 25
years in the area of quality control of several companies (Nestle, Warner
Lambert, Coca Cola, and others) Then I graduated as a lawyer and now I
work legal advice. I was born in
1949, I married three times, I have two children (39 and 30) and two
grandchildren (17 and 15).
Do you still
have any contact with everyone who was involved in Espiritu and what are the
ex Espiritu doing now ?
I have contacted
several of them: Of the 70's with Gustavo Fedel, still writing and
recording classical music and tango. Carlos Goler who until recently ran a
school of music and sound. Of the 80's
with Angel Mahler has a successful career as a composer, director and producer
of music for theater. With Rodolfo Messina is one of the most recognized drum
teachers and also still playing with bands and solo
artists.
Who is
currently involved in Espiritu ?
Ernesto Romeo:
Keyboards
Pablo Guglielmino:
Voice
Federico Favrot: Bass and backing
vocal
Horacio Ardiles:
Drums
Osvaldo Favrot: Guitar and backing
vocal
Just to give
those of us who are unknown with your band a bit of a reference point or two:
How would you describe your music and which bands would you would compare your
music with ?
We are an Argentine rock band,
with influences of psychedelic rock and progressive British and American, but
mixed with Latin touches. Some say that our 70's albums are like Italian bands
of that era, but in the 70's we never heard a single album of Italian bands.
The vinyl LP were expensive and hard to get
and I had many. The bands we had heard at some length were Beatles, Zeppelin,
Yes, Genesis, Mahavishnu, Van der Graff Generator, Zappa, some of them must be
on our albums.
You have
released a lot of albums. What is your experiences with the music industry ?
Many good experiences and some not
so. They are all virtues and human misery, but
with much refinement. Create you and destroy you. Excites you and gets
you down. When you edit an album or get on a
stage is too exposed, and industry swallows you.
But how is
the music scene in the Argentina these days and how is it to run a band there
? Any problems with getting gigs ?
In Argentina it
is quite difficult to live of the music. The most popular genres are Pop and
Rock International, Tango, Argentine folklore, Tropical Music, and Rock
Argentino. Some artists of these genres are widely popular, filling stadiums
and work well.
Within the spread
of Argentine Rock is a small proportion (1%?) That may correspond to
progressive rock. This means that progressive
rock albums to have all the characteristic bands epic and almost always with
economic losses. Generally Argentine progressive rock bands do not
exceed 2 or 3 albums released (and many only one) because it is difficult to
know their music. "Espiritu" edited seven
albums and continue to resist nearly 40 years of its
inception.
With
regard to the shows the picture is not very different. Most progressive rock bands are not many people to
the theaters (even with cheap tickets.) If you want to have good
lighting, good sound, and good publicity, you must be prepared to lose big
money.
Is any of you
involved in any other bands besides of Espiritu ?
Ernesto Romeo has 20 years of
electronic music duo called "Klauss" with several albums released (the last in
2010) and has been invited by many bands. I have participated in several solo
albums of Rock Argentino compiled in the years 2007, 2008 and
2010. Horacio Ardiles has recorded several albums with a
successful pop group called "Los Rancheros" and is currently involved as a
drummer in a jazz trio. Paul Guglielmino has a
solo project called "Legion of the Sun" and participates in opera
choruses.
What is your
plans for the rest of this year and next year ?
I am
selecting the band's recordings, studio, live, unedited, to edit a compiled.
We have material to publish a new album, but
perhaps only on vinyl. What's releasing CD's means is that they are on rapidshare two days later. That does not make any
commercial sense.
Anything you
want to add to this interview ?
Thank you very much for your
interest in our music and I commend you for the work they do in ProgArchives.
I hope you visit our website and I send a big
hug from Buenos Aires.
Best Regards
Osvaldo Favrot
Thank you to Osvaldo for this interview.
Espiritu's PA profile is http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=993 - and their homepage http://www.espiriturock.com.ar/ -
Download two free compilation albums from http://www.espiriturock.com.ar/fullmp3.html -
Replies: Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 11:15
Wow. Cirsálida is an album I really like, but that I have not played for ages.
Thanks Torodd for this interview, another great (and maybe forgotten band) from Argentina.
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 21:03
Great interview. Don't forget to visit the official site and download their two free compilations!
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 22:25
Yeah, I've just downloaded both, hope to listen to them tomorrow, and soon write the reviews.