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Topic: Favorite SOAD AlbumPosted By: Anthony H.
Subject: Favorite SOAD Album
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 00:49
What's your favorite album from System of a Down?
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Replies: Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 01:00
My fav band. Yes.
God so difficult, STA is the only one that's meh I LOVE the other 4 so much.
Hard choice man, but I'm going with their debut, SOAD
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 02:21
This is not an easy one trying to choose a favorite album from one of my favorite bands - only 5 albums, but not a bad one in there...
If you held a gun to my head, it would have to be Hypnotise (if only for the tracks 'Attack' and 'Holy Mountains')
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 02:24
Jim Garten wrote:
This is not an easy one trying to choose a favorite album from one of my favorite bands - only 5 albums, but not a bad one in there...
If you held a gun to my head, it would have to be Hypnotise (if only for the tracks 'Attack' and 'Holy Mountains')
Really? One of your favorites? I used to feel kinda ashamed to like SoaD (now) because it struck me as such a teenage angst band Now that I'm older I actually their music even more, and the lyrics are still brilliant! But yeah...glad to see some other proggers with the love for SoaD!
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 03:08
JJ - SOAD are without a doubt my favorite metal band; intelligent lyrics, riffs to kill for, social concience & a vocalist who looks like Frank Zappa's b*****d son...
Any one who can come up with "banana banana banana banana terracotta banana terracotta terracotta pie" are OK with me
And yes, several people are quite surprised I like them
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 03:12
A bit surprising I won't lie Yeah, they are quite possibly my favorite band, period. Pretty much what got me into music. Used to like the heaviness and their oddness...but after a long while without listening I returned to them and realized the music is killer. Not really technical or complex, but such great musicianship and songwriting. Also some more subtle aweomeness from the drummer, and the music was actually more than I thought.
I'll stop soon, but also a unique band, one of the few IMO of the post 2000 era. Really loved those guys
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 05:50
I listen to Mesmerise/Hypnotise as one album and that's my favourite so I can't vote.
I do wish that I could vote for Anthony's hair though.
Posted By: lensag
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 07:00
All great albums: my favorite is mesmerize (received my vote) but i think their best is toxicity
------------- "when routine bites hard and ambitions are low,
and resentment rides high but emotions won´t grow
And we´re changing our ways, taking different roads..
Then love, love will tear us apart again.."
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 07:17
JJLehto wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
This is not an easy one trying to choose a favorite album from one of my favorite bands - only 5 albums, but not a bad one in there...
If you held a gun to my head, it would have to be Hypnotise (if only for the tracks 'Attack' and 'Holy Mountains')
Really? One of your favorites? I used to feel kinda ashamed to like SoaD (now) because it struck me as such a teenage angst band Now that I'm older I actually their music even more, and the lyrics are still brilliant! But yeah...glad to see some other proggers with the love for SoaD!
Us old farts know all about teenage angst - we are living proof that it is actually possible to survive it.
I too listen to Mezmerise/Hypnotise as a single album even though some fans knock it for having too many Malakian lead vocals, I prefer his voice to Tankian's, but that's just me.
If push comes to shove, I vote Mezmerise though my fave track is probably "Aerials/Arto" from Toxicity.
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 09:21
Textbook wrote:
I do wish that I could vote for Anthony's hair though.
Why, thanks.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 14:47
Dean wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
This is not an easy one trying to choose a favorite album from one of my favorite bands - only 5 albums, but not a bad one in there...
If you held a gun to my head, it would have to be Hypnotise (if only for the tracks 'Attack' and 'Holy Mountains')
Really? One of your favorites? I used to feel kinda ashamed to like SoaD (now) because it struck me as such a teenage angst band Now that I'm older I actually their music even more, and the lyrics are still brilliant! But yeah...glad to see some other proggers with the love for SoaD!
Us old farts know all about teenage angst - we are living proof that it is actually possible to survive it.
I too listen to Mezmerise/Hypnotise as a single album even though some fans knock it for having too many Malakian lead vocals, I prefer his voice to Tankian's, but that's just me.
If push comes to shove, I vote Mezmerise though my fave track is probably "Aerials/Arto" from Toxicity.
No doubt you guys know that. But its the taste in music that surprised me I'm sure my parents had plenty of angst but they certainly dont know about SoaD
I like the fact that there was more vocal input. Serj is great, but diversity is good and of I also like Daron's vocals. There's even some more from Shavo (who I used to think sounded like a baby on crack)
Yeah, I used to wonder why Mezmerize/Hypnotize why so short...but later figured it was supposed to be a double album. Hence that really cool packaging we got with it so you can put both in one!
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 20:38
Toxicity still pwns.
------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 00:58
Gotta go with SOAD.
Toxicity may be more consistant overall (close call IMO) but the highs on SOAD are much higher than on Toxicity.
------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 01:03
Man With Hat wrote:
Gotta go with SOAD.
Toxicity may be more consistant overall (close call IMO) but the highs on SOAD are much higher than on Toxicity.
Agreed.
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 02:10
Toxicity is by far my favorite! it is the sound track of my adolecance and probably one of the formative influences that led me to prog! That CD is great Science, Atwa, Arials, and Chop Suey are so emotional with Deer Dance and Prison for polotics plus Bounce is the funnest head banging song ever!
While I like Mezmerize/Hypnotize I was a little disapointed at Darons growing influence in the band. (Just listen to Serjs solo dabut and Darons Scars on Broadway projects side by side) THat being sayed Mezmerize had two of my favorite all time songs BYOB and Question.
For me their albums go:
Toxisity, Mezmarize, SOAD, Hypnotize, STA
------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 11:47
First and probably only person to vote Steal This Album.
SoaD is my favourite non-prog band.
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 11:51
My favourite is Toxicity. I used to love this band to bits. I still like it and listen it from time to time. I have every album except Steal This Album.
------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira
- Paul Éluard
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 11:59
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 12:02
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
First and probably only person to vote Steal This Album.
SoaD is my favourite non-prog band.
Not that I don't like STA but its their weakest. A few songs on there I don't like. I'd probably give it a 3* Maybe 3.25* Which isn't terrible of course. And I love the blank CD with "Steal this Album" written on it.
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 12:06
The debut and Steal This Album! are my favorites... I don't really listen to them any more, though.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 12:37
Snow Dog wrote:
Don't recall hearing any of their stuff.......
try this:
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 12:53
^^ Is it just me or is that song sort of proggy? Well besides the verse/chorus structure...
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 13:15
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
^^ Is it just me or is that song sort of proggy? Well besides the verse/chorus structure...
wikipedia wrote:
The song uses five different time signatures (5/4, 9/8, 6/4, 6/8, and 4/4). The acoustic guitar intro and part of the verse is in 9/8, expressed as 3+2+2+2 (This phrasing suggests a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question!#Composition - hemiola , and is essentially 4/4 with an extra eighth note on beat 1). The verse briefly switches to 6/8 (when Serj sings "Are you dreaming?"). The guitar motif after the acoustic intro is in 5/4. This same section appears throughout the song as well. The chorus is in 6/4. The heavy tremolo-picked section towards the end underneath the vocals is in 4/4.
that's way too complicated for Prog.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 16:07
I've got Toxicity and it's the only one I've really listened to.
------------- Help me I'm falling!
Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 16:48
Toxicity but i don't know the last one
------------- Really don't mind if you sit this one out.
My words but a whisper, your deafness a shout.
Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 17:37
Toxicity, that was the soundtrack to my first year in High school," 01". I seen them live in 05 and The Mars Volta opened up for them. Such a kick ass live show
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 19:40
JROCHA wrote:
I seen them live in 05 and The Mars Volta opened up for them. Such a kick ass live show
Jealous.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 21:45
I used to have SoaD as "alt metal" but I honestly dont see why they aren't prog.
In terms of instrumentation, song writing, vocals just cmon....how are they not prog metal?
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 23:22
JJLehto wrote:
I used to have SoaD as "alt metal" but I honestly dont see why they aren't prog.
In terms of instrumentation, song writing, vocals just cmon....how are they not prog metal?
I don't know. They don't seem so prog to me...
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 23:26
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
I used to have SoaD as "alt metal" but I honestly dont see why they aren't prog.
In terms of instrumentation, song writing, vocals just cmon....how are they not prog metal?
I don't know. They don't seem so prog to me...
Eh, no need to get into this....Ive tried before
Genre aside, they rawk
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 23:49
JJLehto wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
I used to have SoaD as "alt metal" but I honestly dont see why they aren't prog.
In terms of instrumentation, song writing, vocals just cmon....how are they not prog metal?
I don't know. They don't seem so prog to me...
Eh, no need to get into this....Ive tried before
Genre aside, they rawk
Indeed.
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 22 2010 at 16:03
Chop suey was the first thing I heard by them, and from there I bought Toxicity; that was it for a while until King By Tor urged me to get the Mesmerise/Hypnotise duo, and from there I was completely hooked - Steal this album is good (given it's just out-takes from Toxicity), and SOAD's debut is a powerful debut (up there with Faith No More's debut IMO), but they really hit their peak with the last 2 albums.... then split
One of my friends saw them on one of their very rare visits to the UK & said it was the scariest mosh pit he'd ever been part of (and he's a Sepultura fan )
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 22 2010 at 16:06
Nice!
And I was honestly depressed when they went on Hiatus. Mainly because given their nature, I assumed that was the end of them forever. People claim they are thinking about getting it back together...but how do they know? And I'll believe it when I see it
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 02:22
Their website doesn't help either - enticing you in with promises of new material & tour dates, then you see it's all to do with Tankian or Malakian's solo projects.
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 02:26
Maybe part of it is not getting hopes up for let down, but I don't see it happening.
Also, "Spiders" from album SoaD still sends a chill down my spine
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 03:04
'Jet Pilot' from Toxicity's a great driving song though
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 03:24
It is one of their thrashiest.
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 10:26
JJLehto wrote:
Maybe part of it is not getting hopes up for let down, but I don't see it happening.
Also, "Spiders" from album SoaD still sends a chill down my spine
Mine too.
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 12:17
JJLehto wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
First and probably only person to vote Steal This Album.
SoaD is my favourite non-prog band.
Not that I don't like STA but its their weakest. A few songs on there I don't like. I'd probably give it a 3* Maybe 3.25* Which isn't terrible of course. And I love the blank CD with "Steal this Album" written on it.
I wonder how many people actually committed crime of .... (you know what) while listening to this request.
------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
-Andyman1125 on Lulu
Even my
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 16:40
Heh, probably many!
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 08:09
JJLehto wrote:
It ["Jet Pilot"] is one of their thrashiest.
You should see my driving
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 03:05
Maybe should've italicized is... I do love me the thrash metal.
My brother claims that John Dolmayan said that SoaD will "probably" tour next year. Not sure where this is from or if its telephone info...but as usual I'll remain skeptical yet optimistic. Would be great to see them live.
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 03:25
I think they only ever visited the UK once & that was only for a handful of shows...
...hope springs eternal **fingers crossed**
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 03:26
^ I saw them at Download Jim.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 03:31
I know they weren't really into the whole tour thing...or really doing the whole "musician" thing in general. Kind of why I never thought they'd never get back, but maybe hopefully? At least a tour.
Well, if anyone cares here's the interview. I'll take it as at least a good sign from one of my favorite drummers http://www.soadomized.com/whorehouse/viewtopic.php?t=92 - http://www.soadomized.com/whorehouse/viewtopic.php?t=92 Forgive the title, but its legit.
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 05:39
Thanks for that JJ - can but hope, eh?
The BBC ran a documentary some time ago on SOAD, focussing on the band's campaigning for historical recognition of the 'Forgotten Holocaust' in Armenia around 1915/1920 - called 'Screamers', the band (all of whom are grandchildren of survivors of the genocide) come across as seriously intelligent guys - highly recommended if you get the chance to see it.
http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi1233518873/ - Link to trailer
Dean wrote:
^ I saw them at Download Jim.
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 13:50
Yes, I've become used to disregarding lyrics but SoaD is one of the few I make sure to listen for. Serj gets a lot of credit for being brilliant, but they all are intelligent guys for sure. I know the drummer was especially political (at least in magazines and stuff). It's nice to see.
I don't know if any of you ever read that thing Serj posted on the internet not too long after 9/11 but it was an intriguing piece that made me think a bit. Not that I want to get into that whole thing, (wasnt anything conspiracy related) but it did really change my outlook, even on a larger scale of things.
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 02:58
Since its release Mezmerize has been my #1 or 2 favourite album, ever by any band in any genre. The first listen of that album was perhaps the most mindblowing musical experience I've ever had, and I had massive expectations due to the two five star and one four star albums they had released before that. I miss that moment, I don't believe it will ever happen again. Hypnotize is fantastic as well, but perhaps loses by a hair to s/t, Toxicity and Mezmerize.
I'm not really into Serj's Elect the Dead, but Scars on Broadway is really great.
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Posted By: Synchestra
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 19:56
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
First and probably only person to vote Steal This Album.
SoaD is my favourite non-prog band.
Nope, it got my vote too. I think Toxicity and self titled are better albums, but STA is my fav. I think I have a soft spot for it because it was one of the first albums I bought a few years ago. Also it has Mr. Jack and Pictures on it
------------- 'Yeah, thats.. Whatever you're talking about for ya' - Zapp brannigan
Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: August 30 2010 at 10:33
I love all of them, but Mesmerize for me, followed by S/T.
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Posted By: EatThatPhonebook
Date Posted: August 30 2010 at 10:57
self titled, close second for Toxicity
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 30 2010 at 20:59
STA was their weakest IMHO but still had a lot of good songs and was overall surprisingly good since it was all songs that didn't make the first 2!
Havnt listened in a long time but I remember loving "Highway Song"
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 00:43
I-E-A-I-A-I-O is my favourite from that album, lots of other brilliant tracks as well, but as a whole it's just not as good. I've got the original pressing with no cover booklet and the CD designed by John Dolmayan.
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