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Topic: Your favourite pre-The Court album(s)?
Posted By: Gandalff
Subject: Your favourite pre-The Court album(s)?
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 00:58
What´s your favourite album(s) recorded and/or issued before release of the King Crimson album: In The Court Of The Crimson King?  (With any Prog scent if it´s possible, please.)

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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 01:19
Anything by The Beatles, especially The White Album.

Many other classic rock bands, as well.


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 02:16
Love - Forever Changes (1968)
 
More on the acoustic/melodic side of music and not very prog but the songs are beautifulll and its an immaculate recording.


Posted By: Falx
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 02:24
The Crazy World of Arthur Brown in 1968. To quote PA: ARTHUR BROWN was one of the prime movers behind the Progressive underground in late 1960s England, famous for his outlandish stage act which included psychedelic robes and a helmet of fire!

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 02:35
I'll stick to the PA database (but I won't limit myself to one)
 
Vanilla Fudge (debut and Renaissance)
Deep Purple (the first three)
The Nice (Emerlist)
Caravan (debut)
Soft Machine (Vol 2)
Procol Harum (debut and Brightly)
HP Locevraft (debut and II)
Collectrors (Love Is)
Miles (In A Silent Way)
 
.......; that should do.


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Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 04:37
Saucerful of Secrets - Floyd
Disraeli Gears - Cream
SF Sorrow - Pretty Things
Satanic Majesty - Stones
Magical Mystery Tour - Beatles
Disposable - Deviants
Bathing at Baxters - Jefferson Airplane
Emerlist Davjak - Nice


Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 04:47
Van Morrison's Astral Weeks. I think it was pre Court, and no it's not prog but what a classic

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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 05:52
I second Astral Weeks, boy howdy.

Astral Weeks

Strange Days

Procol Harum's Debut

Side one of Sgt Pepper.

Songs of Leonard Cohen

Lots and lots of Sinatra, specifically In the Wee Small Hours and For Only The Lonely

Lots of old Jazz stuffs

The Byrds - Fifth Dimension, and most stuff from The Byrds, The Kinks, and Mr. Morrison


Posted By: kole
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 05:57
Originally posted by Falx Falx wrote:

The Crazy World of Arthur Brown in 1968. To quote PA: ARTHUR BROWN was one of the prime movers behind the Progressive underground in late 1960s England, famous for his outlandish stage act which included psychedelic robes and a helmet of fire!


This.


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 07:06
Buffalo Springfield - Again
Procol Harum's first albums
Love - Forever Changes
Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
Soft Machine - Volume 2


Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 07:00
Originally posted by kole kole wrote:

Originally posted by Falx Falx wrote:

The Crazy World of Arthur Brown in 1968. To quote PA: ARTHUR BROWN was one of the prime movers behind the Progressive underground in late 1960s England, famous for his outlandish stage act which included psychedelic robes and a helmet of fire!


This.


Also,
The Kinks - Something Else
The Kinks - Face To Face
Capatain Beefheart - Safe as Milk
Tiny Tim - God Bless Tiny Tim
The Beach Boys - Smiley Smile
The Zombies - The Zombies Featuring She's Not There
William Shatner - The Transformed Man (if this isn't prog, I don't know what is!)


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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 12:01
Abbey Road of The Beatles has nobody mentioned (except Anthony H., who mentioned all their albums).

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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!



Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 13:37
I don't know what to choose, but I'd say close to half of my frequently listened to music is before ITCOTCK.  

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Posted By: TheGrandWazoo123
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 14:47
Because jazz and prog are closely knit, I'll include them, here:

- The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady, Charles Mingus (1963)
- A Love Supreme, John Coltrane (1965)
- Blonde on Blonde, Bob Dylan (1966) ("Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" is eleven minutes long)
- Pet Sounds, The Beach Boys (1966)
- Arthur, The Kinks (1969) (you know, it's a concept album)


I'd say those are some of the best.


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Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 15:58
I will also vote for all of The Beatles' stuff, along with some stuff from other British bands like The Who, The Stones, and The Kinks. I'll also mention The Beach Boys, and now I'm finally discovering a vast back-catalogue of jazz that I'm listening to more frequently. And then, if you really want to get technical, there's most classical music.

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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 16:38
The Doors - Self titled,Strange Days
Coltrane
Mingus
Miles


Posted By: ProgBob
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 19:04
Jefferson Airplane - After Bathing At Baxters
Byrds - Notorious Byrd Brothers
Love - Forever Changes


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 21:11
Abbey Road - The Beatles
A Love Supreme - John Coltrane
Wheels of Fire - Cream
Santana - Santana
I - Led Zeppelin
Hot Rats - Zappa
CS&N - CS&N
Karma - Pharoah Sanders
In a Silent Way - Miles Davis
Electric Ladyland - Hendrix
 
others...
 


Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 21:56
The Doors, Strange Days - The Doors
Santana - Santana
Jimy Hendrix - Everything before '69
The Collectors - The Collectors
Creedence Clearwater Revival, Bayou County, Green River - Creedence Clearwater Revival
Disraeli Gears, Wheels of Fire - The Cream
Moody Blues - everything before '69 (starting with Days of Future Past)
and many others....


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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 23:29
Beatles, Zappa, the usual suspects.  But two albums stand out, as really pointing the way to progressive rock:
 
Crazy World of Arthur Brown (especially Side 1)
Procol Harum's first
 
Those two albums laid a foundation that would be revisited time and time again.  Sometimes the house was knocked off its foundations, but the foundations remained.
 
The 'Fire' suite that is Side 1 of CWOAB is one of the first side-long excursions into repetitive themes, almost cyclical.  And then Procolly-speaking, there's that Bach solo in Repent Walpurgis.   Mix it all up, give it a couple of years to ferment, and next thing ya know there's some prog around.   
 
 


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Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 00:03

Anything by Frank Zappa

Village Green Preservation Society by The Kinks




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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: August 22 2010 at 17:43
Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Anything by The Beatles, especially The White Album.






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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 19:30
Hi,
 
The Doors
Jefferson Airplane
Velvet Underground
Pink Floyd/Soft Machine
Frank Zappa
The Beatles
Santana (1st 4 albums -- though prog'rs don't like Latino rhythms!)
Incredible String Band
John Renbourn/Pentangle


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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 19:37
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Santana (1st 4 albums -- though prog'rs don't like Latino rhythms!)


Once again, you're off floating in outer space.

1. Only the first album is pre-ITCOTCK
2. I've never seen anyone on PA put down early Santana and its rhythms.
3. Usually critical praise ends at the seventh album, Borboletta.


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: August 23 2010 at 19:42
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Santana (1st 4 albums -- though prog'rs don't like Latino rhythms!)


Once again, you're off floating in outer space.

1. Only the first album is pre-ITCOTCK
2. I've never seen anyone on PA put down early Santana and its rhythms.
3. Usually critical praise ends at the seventh album, Borboletta.
 
A pitty because Moonflower is excellent, and Amigos is still enjoyable.
 
I agree with the other two points.


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 07:04
The Beatles
The Doors
Jefferson Airplane
Jimi Hendrix
Cream
The 13th Floor Elevators
Masters Apprentices
Creedence Clearwater Revival
 
ah... the psychedelic 60s - brilliant music all of it...
 
 


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Posted By: sydbarrett2010
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 17:39
patgod - pink floyd


Posted By: Klogg
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 20:16
The first 3 FZ's, god of hellfire album, Deep Purple first 3, Stand up-JT

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 27 2010 at 01:49
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Santana (1st 4 albums -- though prog'rs don't like Latino rhythms!)


Once again, you're off floating in outer space.

1. Only the first album is pre-ITCOTCK
2. I've never seen anyone on PA put down early Santana and its rhythms.
3. Usually critical praise ends at the seventh album, Borboletta.
 
A pitty because Moonflower is excellent, and Amigos is still enjoyable.
 
I agree with the other two points.
I'll second Moonflower as well.Thumbs Up (although off topic)


Posted By: Floydman
Date Posted: August 27 2010 at 13:09
Rubber Soul
Aftermath
Pet Sounds
Revolver
 
Sgt Pepper especially "with "Mr. Kite" and "A Day in the Life" both songs I class as Progressive Rock. While not the first rock concept album I think the concept  of the alter-ego band and linking of songs just revolutionized the concept album in rock music and put the concept album in rock on the map.
 
The Who Tommy ok not the first rock-opera but it's a great album and it also help popularize the  rock opera.
 
 


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 27 2010 at 15:52
Ornette Coleman, Free Jazz (1960)



Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: August 27 2010 at 17:28
Brigitte Fontaine - Brigitte Fontaine est...folle ! (1968)
Booker T & The MG's - Hip Hug Her (1967)
Joni Mitchell - Song To A  Seagull (1968)
Roy Harper - Sophisticated Beggar (1967)
Blossom Toes - We Are Ever So Clean (1967)
The Shadows - The Shadows (1961) & Out Of The Shadows (1962)
The Troggs - From Nowhere...The Troggs (1966)
The Yardbirds - pretty much everything

+ the ones that were previously mentioned and many more !


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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 27 2010 at 18:33
"The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles and Fripp"

Otherwise, I'd have to put up a ton of sh*te like "The Monkees"!!  

The Association had some rather lovely, pre-Yes vocal harmonizations that apparently inspired Yes to some degree, I've read where Jon Anderson once recorded a nice version of "Never, My Love."  I'd like to hear that.  


Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: August 27 2010 at 19:45
I love Love!



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