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Topic: Vangelis best albumPosted By: octopus-4
Subject: Vangelis best album
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 08:29
I had to cut out some possible choices because of the limit to 25.
Vangelis is only prog-related. My intention with this post is to restart the discussion and get in touch with Vangelis fans. My choice is Heaven and Hell followed closely by Albedo 0.31
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Replies: Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 08:47
He has put out a lot of albums. Those two you mention are my favorites for certain. I think if those were his only two, he wouldn't be in prog related.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 10:37
I won't say what his best is, but I vote for Hypothesis. That, Dragon and others are Progressive albums as far as I'm concerned.
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 11:52
Blade Runner always owns my heart. I've barely listened to mroe than six or so (Heaven and Hell included, and Blade Runner owns me.
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 12:33
Alitare wrote:
Blade Runner always owns my heart. I've barely listened to mroe than six or so (Heaven and Hell included, and Blade Runner owns me.
Batty's monologue is one of the greatest things ever, and Rutger Hauer improvised it....
I have to confess that I started exploring his music after Blade Runner
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 13:41
El Greco for me his finest 80 minutes. Absolutely awesome, but so is HAH, China, Spiral, Opera Sauvage plus many more. I am perplexed he is in prog related, not that it bothers me.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 14:17
Chris S wrote:
El Greco for me his finest 80 minutes. Absolutely awesome, but so is HAH, China, Spiral, Opera Sauvage plus many more. I am perplexed he is in prog related, not that it bothers me.
I've got El Greco, but it never clicked with me. And I no longer care where a worthy artist if placed around here even though some placements leave me scratching my head sometimes.
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 14:48
Yep, Other as in Hypothesis. And Dragon second for me as well.
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Posted By: Mr Greeen Genes
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 15:13
Dragon for me... the title track is a little too repetitive though. The other ones are great.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 16:25
Chris S wrote:
El Greco for me his finest 80 minutes. Absolutely awesome, but so is HAH, China, Spiral, Opera Sauvage plus many more. I am perplexed he is in prog related, not that it bothers me.
El Greco for me as well.Deeply sumptious music.
China is also pretty close and probably Vangelis best all round work.
Direct is my favourite electronic prog album by Vangelis just edging out Albedo and Spiral
Found this absolutely stunning footage browsing on you tube
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 16:34
richardh wrote:
Chris S wrote:
El Greco for me his finest 80 minutes. Absolutely awesome, but so is HAH, China, Spiral, Opera Sauvage plus many more. I am perplexed he is in prog related, not that it bothers me.
El Greco for me as well.Deeply sumptious music.
China is also pretty close and probably Vangelis best all round work.
Direct is my favourite electronic prog album by Vangelis just edging out Albedo and Spiral
Found this absolutely stunning footage browsing on you tube
Incredible genius. The Master and the Apprentice Who says we have not found another dimension. Just watching him do that China songblows me away. I wonder who the apprentice was. What an honour for him.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 16:42
^ I did try to find out by reading the strange and varied comments from people on you tube but nothing of any use other than the clip was taken from a Spanish tv programme.
It is quite amazing stuff.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 16:47
Couldn't resist putting something else up from youtube (from Voices ft Stina Nordenstam)
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 16:54
One more before I go to bed
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 17:23
^ Hah, that beauty from Oceanic bound to get you to sleep. Even though I consider El Greco to be his last " studio" release, I always think that " Oceanic" was his last legit concept album. I have the latest Mythodea and Alexander but would love to see a new conceptual release from him again. I guess he must be getting on a bit now.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 16 2010 at 17:34
I really enjoyed his work for Antarctica and the movie as well. Also, very jealous of his keyboard collection.
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 22:51
A very magical period for Vangelis were the RCA years. I enjoyed his film score for "The Bounty". Excerpts are available on a best of....(forget title), and never been officially released in it's entirety.....not to my knowledge.
Two scores in particular that I must praise are Ignacio and L'Apocalypse des Animaux. These are really grand from start to finish. Many of the keyboard sounds and the approach stylistically reminds me of early Popol Vuh.
Soil Festivities is a departure from his other titles regarding the sounds and the atomospheric soundscape he creates. It's an album that has to grow on you over a few months of listening time.
1492 being one of my favorites as I never want it to end.
See You Later ....I was never fond of. I am not a huge fan of Jon Anderson. Jon and Vangelis titles I had a difficult time relating to.
He recorded something with Neuronium. I've never heard it. Have you?
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 23:11
For some reason I laughed when I saw the angry face in the poll title.
Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: August 22 2010 at 00:47
Many Great Albums , but Chariots is excellent , in addition to H & E and the City !
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Posted By: Lynx33
Date Posted: August 22 2010 at 01:15
Hypothesis and Dragon are also very fine but the best is Blade Runnist (sic!).
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Posted By: Guitar Noir
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 07:00
octopus-4 wrote:
Alitare wrote:
Blade Runner always owns my heart.
Batty's monologue is one of the greatest things ever, and Rutger Hauer improvised it....
I am right there with you! Blade Runner is one of my all time favorite movies, I must have seen it 25-30 times over the years. And the music, no words can explain what it does to me. Simply amazing stuff.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 07:06
Blade Runner is mesmirising and indispensable music
the movie could not be the same without it....
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 11:59
1492 gets my vote
also love El Greco
Dragon and Chariots of Fire are OK
have not got into Heaven and Hell at all
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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 14:42
Albedo 0.39. and Heaven and Hell only two i have heard so voted 0.39
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 16:38
Hi,
Soundtracks ... soundtracks ...
Blade Runner is by far one of the pretties soundtracks ever done and was used to a magnificent degree.
Listening wise, I love El Greco.
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 14:19
I voted Direct because it's a very good album and it has no vote ()
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 30 2010 at 10:12
lucas wrote:
I voted Direct because it's a very good album and it has no vote ()
Good choice and one of his best imo.
China with no votes is a bigger shocker to me though.I would have voted for it before El Greco came along.
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: August 30 2010 at 12:30
Just love Heaven & Hell.
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 09:49
it's good to know DRAGON and HYPOTHESIS are unfinished works that VANGELIS did'nt wanted to be released, but so is the business.as an album EARTH could be my favourite one but as a track CREATION DU MONDE is the most stunning music put to tape, i'm quite amazed no one chose l'APOCALYPSE DES ANIMAUX .I own the whole discography and i love them all
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 10:06
Albed 0.39 gets my vote. Vangelis demonstrates a profound knowledge of astronomy.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 10:11
Impressive lyrics, just take a book of geography and read .
I'm joking. I really like that track and the idea is great. "Maximum distance from the sun....."
Nothing can be defined as Space Rock more than it.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 10:12
Maximum distance from the sun 92 million miles.
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 10:29
jean-marie wrote:
it's good to know DRAGON and HYPOTHESIS are unfinished works that VANGELIS did'nt wanted to be released, but so is the business.as an album EARTH could be my favourite one but as a track CREATION DU MONDE is the most stunning music put to tape, i'm quite amazed no one chose l'APOCALYPSE DES ANIMAUX .I own the whole discography and i love them all
l'Apocalylpse Des Animaux is brillinat, I agree.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 10:39
They are al actually very brilliant
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 12:52
Voted for Heaven and Hell (Yeah I know, probably the most overtly proggy critter in the litter)
As for the remainder:
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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 15:28
too new to vote Blade Runner for me
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 17:24
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
For some reason I laughed when I saw the angry face in the poll title.
Clearly Vangelis is just plain anger evoking music!
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 07:34
I thought the anger emoticon signified this thread was going to badmouth Vangelis but it was the opposite...
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 08:54
I'm from Greece(as you already know).I voted Earth.I like his albums.But I chose this because I'm an Akerfeldt fan and this album it was the no.1 in his list for the albums who listened to more in 2008(I think).
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 12:42
Beauborg was my favorite album of all time for about a month when I was a bit stranger but I would have to say Albedo is now. His drumming gives it a crazy rhythmic feel that is unique.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 15:02
Seeing has how he's only put out a couple of albums this should be easy. I'm going with Albedo. Heaven and Hell a close second. The sountrack for Bladerunner was fantastic. I know some like Beuborg and Mythhodia, but you can count me out.
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 15:24
if you know Vangelis.........el greco is his finest hour.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 15:37
Chris S wrote:
if you know Vangelis.........el greco is his finest hour.
That one just totally didn't click with me. I refuse to slam stuff that doesn't. It's just the way music works sometimes.
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Posted By: akajazzman
Date Posted: November 29 2010 at 15:10
I realize Vangelis gets diss'd a lot. But Blade Runner is a freakin' great Progg'ish album.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 29 2010 at 16:26
Ideally I would like to see the votes more evenly spread.
Heaven and Hell although featuring inspired use of the English Chamber Choir is overall a disjointed effort (imo)
Blade Runner has some very beautifull stuff but again its jjust too disjointed to be a masterpeice.
Vangelis masterpeices for me are
Mask
China
El Greco
Soil Festivities
Of his most prog sounding albums I prefer Direct and Spiral over Heaven and Hell and Albedo 0.39
Voices also has some wonderful dreamy stuff perfect for headphones and more 'together' than Blade Runner.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 01:20
Albedo 0.39
If it weren't for that, I might go for BR or even Direct, which, IMO, is the last 'great' Vangelis recording and very underrated. A nice surprise when it appeared 22 years ago (yikes!).