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Topic: Stage techniques for "Boring music"
Posted By: elder08
Subject: Stage techniques for "Boring music"
Date Posted: August 03 2010 at 22:11
Boring in quotes guys hahaha now me in my band finally got a real gig and we were all wondering how we would use some stage presence to spruce up the music. Like how PF would use floating pigs and tear down huge walls but not to that extent hahaha we don't have enough money for that....! Now me being the drummer I have a lot as it is just being excited and lie head butting cymbals and standing up and kicking over my stool and sh*t so If you know any it would be more centric towards the bassist and guitarist and singer. Thanks guys

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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 03 2010 at 22:13
Have the singer bite the heads off small animals, the guitarist should play with his teeth while the guitar is on fire, and if you have a keyboardist, he should repeatedly stab knives into the keyboard.

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: August 03 2010 at 22:16
Originally posted by elder08 elder08 wrote:

Boring in quotes guys hahaha now me in my band finally got a real gig and we were all wondering how we would use some stage presence to spruce up the music. Like how PF would use floating pigs and tear down huge walls but not to that extent hahaha we don't have enough money for that....! Now me being the drummer I have a lot as it is just being excited and lie head butting cymbals and standing up and kicking over my stool and sh*t so If you know any it would be more centric towards the bassist and guitarist and singer. Thanks guys


This sort of thing makes me ashamed to be living in Florida, really.


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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 03 2010 at 22:18
Have the guitarist sit on a stool near the back of the stage. 

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Posted By: javier0889
Date Posted: August 03 2010 at 22:54

Having the lead singer dressed with a red dress and a fox head.


Oh wait....



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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 03 2010 at 23:39
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Have the guitarist sit on a stool near the back of the stage. 


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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 01:58
Try to move as little as possible. Never speak for more than three seconds between the songs. Naturally a fog machine is a must.


Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 02:01
make the music less boring

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Posted By: scatterplot1
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 02:37
Get a Theremin. Not the vitamins, an electronic instrument with an antenna. Cool stage prop. Jimmy Page used one. You don't even need the expensive MOOG theremin. You can get one off Ebay for less than $200. I've seen vids of people putting their all into these things, years learning to play real songs with their fingers.. Personally I think they just make good stage show/embellishment. Use the 2 knobs to find your "sweet spot", run it thru a large hall reverb or better, multitap reverb.......you being the drummer might be ideal. Keep it out of sight. But look on Ebay, this is about 2 years old since I bought one, but there is a guy who sells them for about $160. Just a suggestion. Who knows? You might  have fun with it.
Jim


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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 02:45
The singer should pace the stage constantly with his shirt off as well as making large arm/hand gestures. The guitarist (also shirtless) should jump as much as possible, since he can't walk around without getting unplugged/tangled, and when he can't jump he should at least be swaying or shuffling in place. Nobody cares about the bassist.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 02:49
Disband and start up a circus instead.ClownEvil Smile

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 06:17
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Disband and start up a circus instead.ClownEvil Smile
LOL Clap


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 06:20
Just play.

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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 08:00
Wear evil clown makeup and douse the audience with cheap soda.

*ducks*



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Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 09:32
Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

Wear evil clown makeup and douse the audience with cheap soda.

*ducks*

If his main goal is to make money and draw in audiences, unfortunately that would probably be successful.Ermm


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 11:55
Play naked.
No, already done. Not funny.

Exchange the instruments between each member of your group.
No, Def Leppard already did it.

Oh, yeah: have songs.
And stop the drugs/alcohol/mystic experiences before posting on the forum. Your message looks weird.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 11:58
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:



Exchange the instruments between each member of your group.
No, Def Leppard already did it.


What?

When did that happen?Confused


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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 12:14
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:



Exchange the instruments between each member of your group.
No, Def Leppard already did it.


What?

When did that happen?Confused


In fact, on their 1983 tour (if I'm not wrong), they used to finish their concerts by playing each other's instruments.


Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 13:25
Used to play in a band and had a residency at a London pub, until the drummer got so drunk, one night, that I gave him a slap, onstage.
 
That blew the gig, and split the band.
 
But it got the most applause I can ever remember.
 
Evil Smile
 
ps: A naked female dancer is always a crowd-puller, too.


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Posted By: rod65
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 13:33
If your music can't hold your audience's attention, you have no business being on stage.


Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 13:41
1- Use 3 female vocalist in right corner of stage and use "solfege" in middle of some songs. Note that they must wear "Short skirts".
 
2- Set a great "Circle" on top of the Stage and show "Tom and jerry" with "pilot cabin" sound on it. ( use over dub technique)
 
3- Light one cigarette with "Laser" light.( Try this with "Slow Motion" . This is difficult in live concert
 and you must have good training before do this. You can consult Gabriel .)
 
4- Show your childhood pictures on "Circle" . If you have crying picturers 100% use it.
 
5- Cover some PF and specially " Genesis" songs. ( You can consult "Unifaun" band to cover Genesis). OPTION: Copy collins voice specially in SHARP mood.
6- Tell guitar and bass player to "headbang" in instromental parts.( likeRawks)
7- Dont forget "sunglasses" with "Smile" like Cool
 
OH . sorry. very long and "Boring" writing!!! Please forgive me to waste your time. it is very enjoyable!!


Posted By: elder08
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 13:50
Our music would probably catch the attention of you guys here on prog archives but not so much here around the "Christian Deathcore" scene 

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 14:54
Hire some midgets? This alone should stimulate your imagination about what to do next with them...


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 15:40
Originally posted by elder08 elder08 wrote:

Boring in quotes guys hahaha now me in my band finally got a real gig and we were all wondering how we would use some stage presence to spruce up the music. Like how PF would use floating pigs and tear down huge walls but not to that extent hahaha we don't have enough money for that....!
 
Way before PF did that, people were listening to the music and Echoes and Atom Heart Mother did fine, thank you ... and in many ways, those shows were a LOT better than the later ones with DSOTM and TW ... which had way too many "fans" and the audience was not respectfull and nice as the earlier shows were.
 
In some ways the staging was cool, but in the end ... it stunk, and it even got Roger mad because people were fightingfor pieces of the pig ... and you can hear this on a couple of bootlegs, and it is, more than anything, a true testament to what is wrong in the music/concert business.
 
I say, that if your music doesn't stand up to the "silence", then you are not an innovator and the audience is going to sleep on you, and there is not much that you can do to improve that. The other chance/idea is ... a bit further out, but if you are just doing "songs" ... the whole thing is a mute discussion, since there is no span of time to help folks meet the music inside you!
 
There is no such thing as "boring music" ... and if that is what you call it, you have already made a point that you are not happy with your music and your presentation of it. Sad ... you are not even giving yourself a chance and already you don't like it. How do you expect anyone else to like it?
 
May I suggest some serious soul searching as to what your band wants to do with the music first and then you can talk to a madman that would love to put it on a stage with you! But it gets harder when all you have is 10 songs and they are the same thing and theme. In the end, it's about the music and who you are ... not the songs! And you make the music showcase you guys!


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Posted By: johnkevin
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 04:57
You know I am not into Classical Music, but boring, not really. I like to listen to the different instruments and pick out individual parts. Some of those lines can be used to make a wicked solo on a different instrument
Classical Music calms & refreshes the instrument. I don't know much about Indian Classical Music but as I love listening soft, sad & instumental music I never felt bored. Whereas the other music has words, feelings & most important dance in it, so people prefer to listen then & entertaining.
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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 05:50
Originally posted by elder08 elder08 wrote:

Our music would probably catch the attention of you guys here on prog archives but not so much here around the "Christian Deathcore" scene 
I didn't listen your music and I cant have idea about that. And about my last post I'm not serius on it.


Posted By: Ronnie Pilgrim
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 06:34
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by elder08 elder08 wrote:

Boring in quotes guys hahaha now me in my band finally got a real gig and we were all wondering how we would use some stage presence to spruce up the music. Like how PF would use floating pigs and tear down huge walls but not to that extent hahaha we don't have enough money for that....! Now me being the drummer I have a lot as it is just being excited and lie head butting cymbals and standing up and kicking over my stool and sh*t so If you know any it would be more centric towards the bassist and guitarist and singer. Thanks guys


This sort of thing makes me ashamed to be living in Florida, really.

Take heart my friend. Cougar Town more than makes up for it. Wink


Posted By: Luca Pacchiarini
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 07:07
Hire an abstractist painter, make him paint quick sketches on stage (following the rhythm of the music) and when the song reaches its climax, he destroys furiously his works with an hammer
 
wouldn't that be brilliant?


Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 15:00
Originally posted by elder08 elder08 wrote:

Our music would probably catch the attention of you guys here on prog archives but not so much here around the "Christian Deathcore" scene 
 
Live crucifixion would be awesome.....(nail some sense into 'em).  LOL
 


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 15:29
Originally posted by elder08 elder08 wrote:

Our music would probably catch the attention of you guys here on prog archives but not so much here around the "Christian Deathcore" scene 
 
Ohhh ... my ... so he's going after Ozzy's audience ... good luck, he's not dead yet! Big smile
 


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Posted By: RoeDent
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 15:57
Get your bassist to do a Myung Tackle on the singer!


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 15:57
Dress up as bananas...in pajamas!

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 18:07
Wear matching shirts. Play in a hot tub. Filled with warm jello.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 03:58
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Dress up as bananas...in pajamas!


But Gong don't play boring music! I'm very upset by this insinuation Angry


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 05:49
Construct a wall between the stage and the audience so that the band members are hidden behind it. I think you can make a lot of money if you did that. Trust me no one has done that before...
 
If not perhaps you could all wear makeup and glammy costumes, and take on persoans such as oh.... say, a cat, a demon, a spaceman and a starchild, you could become millionaires if you did that.... how bout that for originality. 


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 16:25
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Dress up as bananas...in pajamas!


But Gong don't play boring music! I'm very upset by this insinuation Angry
 
I think even Daevid is going to laugh at that one! And I'm pretty sure that Gilly is going to send you a stack of bananas for your birthday!


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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 17:57
as a guitarist making faces like someone who is painfully constipated when you play a solo is a must

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 18:12
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Dress up as bananas...in pajamas!


But Gong don't play boring music! I'm very upset by this insinuation Angry

I wasn't speaking of Gong:


LOL
Confused

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 18:21
How about all the standing musicians who can roam around the stage do silly walks a la Python?

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 18:23
Ah, John Cleese is my hero.


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 20:39
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Dress up as bananas...in pajamas!


But Gong don't play boring music! I'm very upset by this insinuation Angry

I wasn't speaking of Gong:

LOL
Confused


But I saw Allen doing the banana-pajama combo at the Gong concert last autumn! LOL


Posted By: elder08
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 23:57
Man you guys got offended by the boring statment? calm the hell down I put it in quotes because thats what pe< id="WebWizRTE" ="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/RTE_.asp?mode=reply&POID=0&ID=1872" style="border: 1px solid rgb165, 172, 178;" ="initialiseWebWizRTE;" ="20" width="600" height="250">ople say about prog D: (sadly)

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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: August 07 2010 at 15:11
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Have the guitarist sit on a stool near the back of the stage. 

You forgot to mention that he's hidden behind a rack of electronic effects.


Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: August 07 2010 at 15:49
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Dress up as bananas...in pajamas!
This sentence has given me inspiration.


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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 07 2010 at 17:42
Originally posted by elder08 elder08 wrote:

Man you guys got offended by the boring statment? calm the hell down I put it in quotes because thats what pe< id="WebWizRTE" ="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/RTE_.asp?mode=reply&POID=0&ID=1872" style="border: 1px solid rgb165, 172, 178;" ="initialiseWebWizRTE;" ="20" width="600" height="250">ople say about prog D: (sadly)


I agree. Except for the 1872 style border thing. I would have rather say the "1871 style border".



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