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Topic: Favorite Bass Line In A Prog Rock Song?
Posted By: WatcherOfTheSkies88
Subject: Favorite Bass Line In A Prog Rock Song?
Date Posted: July 27 2010 at 17:07
What are some of your favorite bass lines that you've ever heard in a progressive rock song? Maybe my all-time favorite one is Chris Squire's bass line that starts at about 5:50 into "Close to the Edge". The bass line itself seems simple, but it just sounds so great. Also, his bass line in the same song during the fast, ferocious opening guitar solo section. He's such an amazing bassist (stating the obvious). A couple other of my favorites are:
King Crimson - Starless (John Wetton): The bass line during the slow middle section.
Yes - Roundabout (Chris Squire): Bass line during the verses.

I know I'm forgetting a lot of great bass lines... oh well. What's yours?



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Posted By: Anirml
Date Posted: July 27 2010 at 18:04
lots of great bass work in prog!"
I agree with yours and add some others:

1. Part from Eloy's Poseidon's Creation                                                                             2. Area - "Nervi Scoperti"
    






3. Esperanto - "Eleanor Rigby" (cover of The Beatles song). If you like classic prog rock Esperanto is a must hear! all their albums contain great stuff (best to start with their "Last Tango" album imo)
    and another one
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4. Simple Minds - "Theme for Great Cities"





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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: July 27 2010 at 19:20
Get 'Em Out By Friday - Genesis
Evermore (part of The Whirlwind) - Transatlantic


Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: July 27 2010 at 20:03
 I have an insane love for John Wetton's bass line on KC's 'Red' (the track).

Colin Edwin's fretless bass line on PT's 'Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before it is Recycled' is beautiful.

...and, last but certainly not least, Geddy Lee's bass line on 'Freewill.'


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 27 2010 at 20:22
Heroines by Diablo Swing Orchestra


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 01:30
The bass line that starts in Magma's K.A just after the vocal intro and doesn't stop for the rest of the album Star


Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 04:19
Led Zeppelin - Lemon Song

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 04:24
Originally posted by b4usleep b4usleep wrote:

Led Zeppelin - Lemon Song

A Prog Rock song?


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Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 04:32
PA says it is prog related as a sub genre

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 04:37
Originally posted by b4usleep b4usleep wrote:

PA says it is prog related as a sub genre

Do YOU think it's a Prog Rock song?


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Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 04:41
it's a great bass line. It's not important whether prog or not

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Posted By: KingOfTheMoon
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 06:28
Tempus fugit... Seems the loss of Anderson / Wakeman really freshened up yes eh?






Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 06:39
Originally posted by b4usleep b4usleep wrote:

it's a great bass line. It's not important whether prog or not
 
It is in a thread called "Favorite Bass Line In A Prog Rock Song?"
 
How about Squire on "Silent Wings of Freedom"?


Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 06:55
Funny, Tempus Fugit for me too. Considering the number of possibilities, I was very surprised to see that KingOfTheMoon has already entered that Tongue


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 08:55
Mine is a very little known one. The bass line of "Intergalactic Cosmic Triolet" from Christian Boulé's first solo album "Photo Musik" is incredibly groovy. I often find myself humming it.
Christian Boulé was the guitar player of Clearlight and also played in the band of Steve Hillage for some time. He made two solo album, "Photo Musik" (note the spelling) and "Non-Fiction", which I highly recommend. to all friends of space rock or  jazz-rock / fusion; Boulé's music is a mixture of both. He died in 2001.


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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 09:10

The Fish! Smile



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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 09:40
The most classical from the classic:
Miles Davis: So What
 
Then:
Black Sabbath: Hand Of Doom, Fairies Wear Boots, Die Young
Yes: Roundabout, Long Distance Runaround
 
From "less known" pigeonhole:
Flash: Black And White
Collegium Musicum: Mikrokozmos, Si nemožná
Fermáta: Solidarity


Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 09:45
Originally posted by b4usleep b4usleep wrote:

it's a great bass line. It's not important whether prog or not
ClapI agree. Snow Dog is a sorehead sometimes, don´t worry.


Posted By: m2thek
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 09:48
One Of These Days


Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 09:50
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by b4usleep b4usleep wrote:

it's a great bass line. It's not important whether prog or not
 
It is in a thread called "Favorite Bass Line In A Prog Rock Song?"
 
How about Squire on "Silent Wings of Freedom"?
 
That´s difficult to pick one of many Squire´s basslines. He´s shortly Bassman of all  Bassmans. Besides, he´s using my fav Rickenbaker Bass.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 10:13
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by b4usleep b4usleep wrote:

it's a great bass line. It's not important whether prog or not
ClapI agree. Snow Dog is a sorehead sometimes, don´t worry.

I'm not being a sorehead. Just look at the thread title.

So it is import5ant( in this thread) wether its Prog or not and your clap doesnt change t5hat.




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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 10:15
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by b4usleep b4usleep wrote:

it's a great bass line. It's not important whether prog or not
ClapI agree. Snow Dog is a sorehead sometimes, don´t worry.

I'm not being a sorehead. Just look at the thread title.

So it is import5ant( in this thread) wether its Prog or not and your clap doesnt change t5hat.


Yeah Snow Dog was just asking a question which he still hasn't got an answer to.

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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 10:53
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by b4usleep b4usleep wrote:

it's a great bass line. It's not important whether prog or not
ClapI agree. Snow Dog is a sorehead sometimes, don´t worry.

I'm not being a sorehead. Just look at the thread title.

So it is import5ant( in this thread) wether its Prog or not and your clap doesnt change t5hat.


Only one thing is important in a life: living itself. And only one thing is certain: the death.
 
So, down with philosophy! Is important number "5" in two of your words above?Wink


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 10:55
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by b4usleep b4usleep wrote:

it's a great bass line. It's not important whether prog or not
ClapI agree. Snow Dog is a sorehead sometimes, don´t worry.

I'm not being a sorehead. Just look at the thread title.

So it is import5ant( in this thread) wether its Prog or not and your clap doesnt change t5hat.


Only one thing is important in a life: living itself. And only one thing is certain: the death.
 
So, down with philosophy! Is important number "5" in two of your words above?Wink

It's not important.Clown


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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 10:55

What about Greg Lake´s basslines?

For example: Tarkus, Knife Edge...


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 11:52
  good ol Squire here with a fantastiq bass line


Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 12:37
Roundabout has a phenomenal bass line.

I love Jaco's "Continuum" bass line.

Also, a few excellent Primus bass lines:


Anyone looking for bass virtuosity should look no further than Primus.


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Posted By: Attack
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 12:43
I'm surprised that no one mentioned John Myung's bass lines yet. I really love his solos, for example in Metropolis, or the beginning of Panic Attack, and Lifting Shadows off a Dream is also great.


Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 12:43
Steamy...

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Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 13:11
Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

Steamy...

LOL


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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 14:09
Helmut Koellen's bass work on the Triumvirat album Illusions On A Double Dimple, especially the side 2 suite "Mister Ten Percent"

Johnny Gustafson's bass on the debut album by Quatermass-especially the track "Make Up Your Mind"
                those are the first two that come to mind-i am sure there are others


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 14:10
1.  Squire's bass throughout "CTTE", a classic!
2.  Wetton's bass on "Fracture" from SBB
3.  Lake's bass on "ITCOTCK", from the album of the same name....he RIPS on that!  
4.  Rutherford's bass on "Lamb" title track, superb composition!!
5.  Percy Jones on Eno's "Skysaw" from "Another Green World," Percy and Fripp together....yow!
6.  Gary Strater's basswork on "Starcastle" is impressive, check out "Lady of the Lake" 

Don't forget to check out Ray Bennett's bass work on the Flash LPs, he was cutting edge at the same time as Squire (they were flat-mates in London back then!)  "Children of the Universe" comes to mind immediately.    

Flash will play at ProgDay fest in a few weeks, wish them well!!   Ray plays six-string, and Wayne Carver does one bang-up job on bass!!   Good old-fashioned '70's prog comin' at ya! 


Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 14:22
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

1.  Squire's bass throughout "CTTE", a classic!
2.  Wetton's bass on "Fracture" from SBB
3.  Lake's bass on "ITCOTCK", from the album of the same name....he RIPS on that!  
4.  Rutherford's bass on "Lamb" title track, superb composition!!
5.  Percy Jones on Eno's "Skysaw" from "Another Green World," Percy and Fripp together....yow!
6.  Gary Strater's basswork on "Starcastle" is impressive, check out "Lady of the Lake" 

Don't forget to check out Ray Bennett's bass work on the Flash LPs, he was cutting edge at the same time as Squire (they were flat-mates in London back then!)  "Children of the Universe" comes to mind immediately.    

Flash will play at ProgDay fest in a few weeks, wish them well!!   Ray plays six-string, and Wayne Carver does one bang-up job on bass!!   Good old-fashioned '70's prog comin' at ya! 
That is quite an awesome list!  Back in the day, did you ever see Starcastle with Gary Strater? Where is ProgDay festival? Ray Bennett with Flash i love, would love to see them live


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 14:58
Eloy - Through a Somber Galaxy
 
the whole Time To Turn album is a tour de force basswise (Klaus Peter-Matziol take a bowThumbs Up)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 15:06
..and some more Eloy


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 15:08
..and more!
 
 


Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 15:26
Originally posted by m2thek m2thek wrote:

One Of These Days
 
^I'm going to cut you into little pieces for stealing my idea. Wink
 
"Pioneers Over C" by Van der Graaf Generator
"Lonely Street" by Kansas
"Orion (Instrumental)" by Metallica (yeah, I consider it a prog rock song)
 
I'm sure there are many others I'm forgetting.


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 15:48
Hi,
 
Too much popular stuff listed here. It's almost like saying that no one else can play the bass or do anything with it.
 
For originality:
Holger Czukay -- His 1st and 2nd solo albums. The long cuts have bass on bass on bass and much more and includes some far out effects.
 
For total music and guts:
Barre Phillips and Eberhard Weber and David Darling
 
For insanity and you need a better drummer and keyboard player to stand up to the guitar:
John Myung -- btw John, we need to set you up with Riuichi Sakamoto so the keyboard can also help you more!
 
Rock bass player:
The Late John Glascock
The Late John Entwistle
 
Too many of the rest are just pickers playing rock'n'roll, and the talent is quite questionable, since the instrument is not being used as an instrument but as a time keeper and helper for the drummer. Not very original at all! And definitly not progressive!
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 15:51
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
Too much popular stuff listed here. It's almost like saying that no one else can play the bass or do anything with it.
 
For originality:
Holger Czukay -- His 1st and 2nd solo albums. The long cuts have bass on bass on bass and much more and includes some far out effects.
 
For total music and guts:
Barre Phillips and Eberhard Weber
 
For insanity and you need a better drummer and keyboard player to stand up to the guitar:
John Myung -- btw John, we need to set you up with Riuichi Sakamoto so the keyboard can also help you more!
 
Rock bass player:
The Late John Glascock
The Late John Entwistle
 
Too many of the rest are just pickers playing rock'n'roll, and the talent is quite questionable, since the instrument is not being used as an instrument but as a time keeper and helper for the drummer. Not very original at all! And definitly not progressive!
 
 
 
 
 
 
Sorry but I don't see why a great bassline has to be progressive.


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 16:06
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Sorry but I don't see why a great bassline has to be progressive.
 
It doesn't.  And you obviously did not notice that I mentioned some folks that were NOT in the "progressive" vein and won't get reviewed here, since so few people think that ECM is jazz and crap, instead of music!
 
The point was that too much of the stuff mentioned was way too conventional playing to be ... that good.
 
I might as well add John Paul Jones, since Led Zep 1 and 2 is one the best examples EVER of what a guitar and bass can do ... that almost no one is big enough to do ... and everyone is still copying them!


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 16:09
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Sorry but I don't see why a great bassline has to be progressive.
 
It doesn't.
 
The point was that too much of the stuff mentioned was way too conventional playing to be ... that good.
 
I might as well add John Paul Jones, since Led Zep 1 and 2 is one the best examples EVER of what a guitar and bass can do ... that almost no one is big enough to do ... and everyone is still copying them!

I'm sorry but........bollocks.


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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 17:37
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Sorry but I don't see why a great bassline has to be progressive.
 
It doesn't.
 
The point was that too much of the stuff mentioned was way too conventional playing to be ... that good.
 
I might as well add John Paul Jones, since Led Zep 1 and 2 is one the best examples EVER of what a guitar and bass can do ... that almost no one is big enough to do ... and everyone is still copying them!

I'm sorry but........bollocks.
how can you put JPJ higher up than some of the very progressive players mentioned-ditto bollocks!


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 17:42
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

1.  Squire's bass throughout "CTTE", a classic!
2.  Wetton's bass on "Fracture" from SBB
3.  Lake's bass on "ITCOTCK", from the album of the same name....he RIPS on that!  
4.  Rutherford's bass on "Lamb" title track, superb composition!!
5.  Percy Jones on Eno's "Skysaw" from "Another Green World," Percy and Fripp together....yow!
6.  Gary Strater's basswork on "Starcastle" is impressive, check out "Lady of the Lake" 

Don't forget to check out Ray Bennett's bass work on the Flash LPs, he was cutting edge at the same time as Squire (they were flat-mates in London back then!)  "Children of the Universe" comes to mind immediately.    

Flash will play at ProgDay fest in a few weeks, wish them well!!   Ray plays six-string, and Wayne Carver does one bang-up job on bass!!   Good old-fashioned '70's prog comin' at ya! 
That is quite an awesome list!  Back in the day, did you ever see Starcastle with Gary Strater? Where is ProgDay festival? Ray Bennett with Flash i love, would love to see them live

Dude, I KNEW Gary Strater & the guys in Starcastle!  I was in college at University of Illinois, where they were based from.  It broke my heart when Gary died of cancer, Starcastle were starting to get their act back together again!  *sigh!*  

Here's the link to Flash at Progday, be sure & check out their website on MySpace, lots of new tunes (and other stuff) being posted!  Cheers!!  

http://www.progday.net/Bands-Flash.html - http://www.progday.net/Bands-Flash.html



Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 17:53
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Sorry but I don't see why a great bassline has to be progressive.
 
It doesn't.
 
The point was that too much of the stuff mentioned was way too conventional playing to be ... that good.
 
I might as well add John Paul Jones, since Led Zep 1 and 2 is one the best examples EVER of what a guitar and bass can do ... that almost no one is big enough to do ... and everyone is still copying them!

I'm sorry but........bollocks.
how can you put JPJ higher up than some of the very progressive players mentioned-ditto bollocks!


How can you not? What's not progressive about John? He's better than most "prog" bass players; his playing is unique, full of talent, and very tasteful.  Just because someone is a bassist in a "prog" band doesn't make them automatically superior to all "non-prog" bass players; that's a ridiculous and backward way of thinking. Star


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 18:09
Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Sorry but I don't see why a great bassline has to be progressive.
 
It doesn't.
 
The point was that too much of the stuff mentioned was way too conventional playing to be ... that good.
 
I might as well add John Paul Jones, since Led Zep 1 and 2 is one the best examples EVER of what a guitar and bass can do ... that almost no one is big enough to do ... and everyone is still copying them!

I'm sorry but........bollocks.
how can you put JPJ higher up than some of the very progressive players mentioned-ditto bollocks!


How can you not? What's not progressive about John? He's better than most "prog" bass players; his playing is unique, full of talent, and very tasteful.  Just because someone is a bassist in a "prog" band doesn't make them automatically superior to all "non-prog" bass players; that's a ridiculous and backward way of thinking. Star

No one is saying that.


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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 18:09
Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Sorry but I don't see why a great bassline has to be progressive.
 
It doesn't.
 
The point was that too much of the stuff mentioned was way too conventional playing to be ... that good.
 
I might as well add John Paul Jones, since Led Zep 1 and 2 is one the best examples EVER of what a guitar and bass can do ... that almost no one is big enough to do ... and everyone is still copying them!

I'm sorry but........bollocks.
how can you put JPJ higher up than some of the very progressive players mentioned-ditto bollocks!


How can you not? What's not progressive about John? He's better than most "prog" bass players; his playing is unique, full of talent, and very tasteful.  Just because someone is a bassist in a "prog" band doesn't make them automatically superior to all "non-prog" bass players; that's a ridiculous and backward way of thinking. Star

*ahem*  Keep it down, mates!  Although JP Jones didn't actually play with a "progressive" band in the true sense, he always brought a progressive element to Led Zep, including some very creative basslines, keyboards (organ, Mellotron, electric piano) and interesting approach to otherwise conventional blues-rock.

His solo albums, "Zooma" and "Thunderthief," are on Fripp's DGM, and Fripp even guested on "Thunderthief"!    Trey Gunn played on "Zooma" and toured with JPJ (I saw that show, damn good!)

That's pretty proggy!   

I'd enjoy seeing JPJ join up with a true prog lineup, it would be very interesting!  However, the bulk of his catalog is more or less blues-rock based, so I don't tend to put him in the same league as Squire, Rutherford etc.   However, he is very good on whatever instrument he cares to play! 


Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 18:09
Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Sorry but I don't see why a great bassline has to be progressive.
 
It doesn't.
 
The point was that too much of the stuff mentioned was way too conventional playing to be ... that good.
 
I might as well add John Paul Jones, since Led Zep 1 and 2 is one the best examples EVER of what a guitar and bass can do ... that almost no one is big enough to do ... and everyone is still copying them!

I'm sorry but........bollocks.
how can you put JPJ higher up than some of the very progressive players mentioned-ditto bollocks!


How can you not? What's not progressive about John? He's better than most "prog" bass players; his playing is unique, full of talent, and very tasteful.  Just because someone is a bassist in a "prog" band doesn't make them automatically superior to all "non-prog" bass players; that's a ridiculous and backward way of thinking. Star
i listen to alot of "non-prog" bass players and have no problem with that-i just personally do not feel that JPJ is all that special, over-rated really-it is not because he is or is not progressive in style-but that is just my opinion, for better or worseSmile


Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 18:14
John Paul Jones, progressive or not, is frighteningly overrated.

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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 18:20
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Sorry but I don't see why a great bassline has to be progressive.
 
It doesn't.
 
The point was that too much of the stuff mentioned was way too conventional playing to be ... that good.
 
I might as well add John Paul Jones, since Led Zep 1 and 2 is one the best examples EVER of what a guitar and bass can do ... that almost no one is big enough to do ... and everyone is still copying them!

I'm sorry but........bollocks.
how can you put JPJ higher up than some of the very progressive players mentioned-ditto bollocks!


How can you not? What's not progressive about John? He's better than most "prog" bass players; his playing is unique, full of talent, and very tasteful.  Just because someone is a bassist in a "prog" band doesn't make them automatically superior to all "non-prog" bass players; that's a ridiculous and backward way of thinking. Star
i listen to alot of "non-prog" bass players and have no problem with that-i just personally do not feel that JPJ is all that special, over-rated really-it is not because he is or is not progressive in style-but that is just my opinion, for better or worseSmile


Sorry, but you really made it sound like that.


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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 18:51
No one has mentioned Jaco Pastorius yet.  Many of the bass lines on his S/T are amazing (and tough to play, to boot).  Stanley Clarke's "School Days" has an amazing bassline as well.  Same goes for the multitude of other bassists I prefer to those two anymore.  Oh, and the bassline in Can's Halleluhwah - not complicated, but gooooooooooooood. 

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 29 2010 at 01:55
I think a good test of a great bassline is can you recall it in your head without having to actually listen to the music? For instance Yes - Roundabout. Very easy to recall and extract the bass line. Fits the song perfectly but is brilliant on its own also.


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 29 2010 at 03:14
Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

John Paul Jones, progressive or not, is frighteningly overrated.

I disagree; he is an excellent bass player.


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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 29 2010 at 11:30
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

John Paul Jones, progressive or not, is frighteningly overrated.

I disagree; he is an excellent bass player.

I agree!  In fact, he is an excellent multi-instrumentalist, proficient on keyboards, acoustic guitar, electric/acoustic bass, mandolin, and something he invented, "slide bass".   He also introduced the 8-string bass to the world in later Led Zeppelin, before those became mainstream. 

The bass in my icon photo is the twin to his famous "Eric the Red" bass, made by Hugh Manson.  If you've seen Them Crooked Vultures on TV, you've seen Eric.  

Here's a good read on the guy & our mutual friend, Hugh Manson:

http://www.performing-musician.com/pm/jun09/articles/techthat.htm

However, I don't think his bass technique is as sophisticated as Squire, Wetton etc.   JPJ is very much grounded in the blues and even soul, and only recently ventured out into solid progressive music with "Zooma" and "Thunderthief."  Both had their moments, but were somewhat inconsistent.  

Let's just say that he's an excellent bassist and many in prog owe a debt to the guy for the doors he opened, but he isn't a "pure prog" bassist, unlike Squire, Percy Jones, Wetton and the like.    



Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 29 2010 at 11:32
Sorry, here's the JPJ/ Hugh Manson link again!

http://www.performing-musician.com/pm/jun09/articles/techthat.htm - http://www.performing-musician.com/pm/jun09/articles/techthat.htm

Hugh is also the luthier to Steve Howe, Martin Barre and many more.  It is a pleasure to know him, he's brought me backstage to numerous concerts when he tours, and for this I am forever grateful!    


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 29 2010 at 11:44
I am surprised no-one mentioned the bass line from Gong's "Master Builder" so far; a snake like 6-tone intro followed by a descending second which is being played 9-times


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Posted By: android
Date Posted: July 29 2010 at 11:49
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I am surprised no-one mentioned the bass line from Gong's "Master Builder" so far; a snake like 6-tone intor, followed by a descending second which is being played 9-times

Definitely!

One I've been enjoying lately is Roy Babbington's bass line on (the track) Bundles - especially the live versions!


Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: July 29 2010 at 12:14

Yes' Roudabout, or anything by Blotted Science.



Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: July 30 2010 at 09:02
There's a bassline around the 2:30 minute mark of Schooldays by Gentle Giant that blows my mind!

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Posted By: ergaster
Date Posted: August 01 2010 at 11:14
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Sorry but I don't see why a great bassline has to be progressive.
 
It doesn't.
 
The point was that too much of the stuff mentioned was way too conventional playing to be ... that good.
 
I might as well add John Paul Jones, since Led Zep 1 and 2 is one the best examples EVER of what a guitar and bass can do ... that almost no one is big enough to do ... and everyone is still copying them!


Well, the question was "Favorite, not  "most technically proficient".  It is likely that people are going to list their "favourite".

I'm gonna mention Richard Sinclair on "Little Red Riding Hood Hit the Road" from Wyatt's Rock Bottom. 


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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: August 01 2010 at 13:12
My Top 5 In No Particular Order

Greg Lake - Tarkus (ELP)

Richard Sinclair - Shaving Is Boring  (Hatfield and The North)

Geddy Lee - Cygnus X-1 Book 1 (Rush)

Chris Squire - Siberian Khatru (Yes)

Greg Lake - Take A Pebble (ELP)


I seem a little biased towards Greg Lake there but thats because i, well am 






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Posted By: berger_king
Date Posted: August 01 2010 at 20:35

Well I had to think about this one a lot but it would have to be Levin 'Sleepless'. That's just insane. What's amazing is when Crim toured briefly with Gavin Harrison I could swear they played it faster.



Posted By: Imadofus
Date Posted: August 01 2010 at 22:08
The Mars Volta - Cassandra Gemini
The one that starts in the end of part IV and gets played throughout part V


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Posted By: Kojak
Date Posted: August 02 2010 at 02:32
Originally posted by Imadofus Imadofus wrote:

The Mars Volta - Cassandra Gemini
The one that starts in the end of part IV and gets played throughout part V


I have been listening to that non stop all weekend, I love it. Earphones pick up much clearer.


Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: August 02 2010 at 03:04
Nine Feet Underground


Posted By: Johnnytuba
Date Posted: August 02 2010 at 09:56
I know there are many others that I simply love, but Geddy's bass line during the ending guitar solo of The Camera Eye always hits a sweet spot with me.

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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: August 02 2010 at 14:42
I choose Chris Squire's work in the song In The Presence Of, from the album Magnification (2001).

Interesting : your question about bass lines fits with the fact that yesterday I watched a live from Yes (Live at Montreux, 2003) in which Chris Squire releases an heavy bass solo...


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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: August 02 2010 at 14:54
So much stuff from Geddy Lee...
 
John Entwistle in The Real Me, although it's one of the least prog songs of Quadrophenia his bass is stunning.
 
Obviously Squire, Pastorius, Tony Levin...
 
 


Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: August 02 2010 at 14:56
The battle section of "Gates of Delirium".

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Posted By: AtlantisAgony
Date Posted: August 02 2010 at 15:33
This is hard. My choice of musicians were between (the obvious) Chris Squire and Mike Rutherford, in fact. While Squire has some amazing lines, in the end I feel Rutherford has something extra. He interacts with the band on a more complex level, and is a lot more varied in style, I think. It seems to me he's a bit overlooked as a bassist sometimes. "Get 'em out by Friday", "Can-utility and the Coastliners" (fantastic!), and the rest of the songs on Foxtrot, are amazing. SEBTP is also full of great lines, even if he sticks a bit more to the rest of the guys here. My favorite bass line, however, is the title track from The Lamb. It's just brilliant!


 

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 02 2010 at 19:18
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

No one has mentioned Jaco Pastorius yet.  Many of the bass lines on his S/T are amazing (and tough to play, to boot).  Stanley Clarke's "School Days" has an amazing bassline as well.  Same goes for the multitude of other bassists I prefer to those two anymore.  Oh, and the bassline in Can's Halleluhwah - not complicated, but gooooooooooooood. 
 
Jaco and Stanley certainly deserve some credit along the way ... too bad that we never even listended to Bootsie ... and he taught Stanley all he knows!


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 02 2010 at 19:29
Hi,
 
I still think that David Darling in EOS with Terje Rypdal is one of the prettiest things I have ever heard and (skip the first cut! - you have been warned!) ... and it is basically "chamber music" with an electric guitar and bass ... and there is nothing more lovely and beautifully done than that.
 
You can count the notes in Jaco, you can count the effects in Bootsie, you can count the scales in Stanley ... but you will never be able to describe the dreamy quality of this album and it's beautiful design.
 
Sadly, here, we're too stuck up on ideas and thoughts and styles, to the point where listening to something so different and neat ... is simply not going to happen.
 
For your information, to give you an idea of how strong and powerful the music is, it was coupled with Jan Garbarek's Album Eventyr and got the film maker an Oscar for best foreign film of the year ... and the way the music was used in there was not only scary ... it was dreamy, it was hopeful ... and you could not ask for a better image, and use of music in a film! Journey of Hope is the film's name!
 
And David Darling also played a couple of things with Kater/Nakai, and the two albums he is in are both excellent, the ones that he is not are ... average to say the nicest thing about it! David's solo albums are different and quite experimental with sounds and details.


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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: August 02 2010 at 19:49
Percy Jones--throughout Dance of the Illegal Aliens.
John Lodge--the riff in I'm Just A Singer in a Rock and Roll Band.
Chris Squire--the line in Perpetual Change before each verse.
 


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 02 2010 at 19:51
^ Now that you mentioned Percy Jones, I think the reason why Euthanasia Waltz is one of my favourite tracks ever is his bass line!


Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 02 2010 at 20:08
I would have to go with Chris Squires - Fish
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off target here but also lots of John Giblin's bass on Kate Bush and Simple Minds


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Posted By: Noak
Date Posted: August 03 2010 at 07:30
The bassline for The Boys in the Band by Gentle Giant is incredibly fun to play.


Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: August 03 2010 at 10:24
Lee Jackson's bass line in the original version of Rondo by The Nice is incredible, a relentless galloping rhythm that he keeps up for over eight minutes. He apparently tried to teach it to Greg Lake for ELP's version, but Lake (obviously an excellent musician himself) couldn't master it and had to opt for playing a more simplified version.

Tony Reeves' bassline on Pilgrim's Progress by Greenslade is another really good one, and Chris Squire during the intro to Survival.

Greg Lake does some really good bass lines on ELP's Pirates but is mixed so low down you have to strain to hear them.


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 03 2010 at 15:03
Originally posted by Cactus Choir Cactus Choir wrote:

Lee Jackson's bass line in the original version of Rondo by The Nice is incredible, a relentless galloping rhythm that he keeps up for over eight minutes. He apparently tried to teach it to Greg Lake for ELP's version, but Lake (obviously an excellent musician himself) couldn't master it and had to opt for playing a more simplified version.


 
Lee Jackson was (and probably still is) a great bassist. Country Pie (from Five Bridges) would be a contender for me for favourite bass line. There's also second movement of Five Bridges Suite which has a beautifull bassline.Probably loads of others. Great shout for Lee Jackson.Clap


Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: August 03 2010 at 16:13
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Cactus Choir Cactus Choir wrote:

Lee Jackson's bass line in the original version of Rondo by The Nice is incredible, a relentless galloping rhythm that he keeps up for over eight minutes. He apparently tried to teach it to Greg Lake for ELP's version, but Lake (obviously an excellent musician himself) couldn't master it and had to opt for playing a more simplified version.


 
Lee Jackson was (and probably still is) a great bassist. Country Pie (from Five Bridges) would be a contender for me for favourite bass line. There's also second movement of Five Bridges Suite which has a beautifull bassline.Probably loads of others. Great shout for Lee Jackson.Clap
Great nomination of Lee Jackson; clappies galore ClapClapClapClapClapClapClapClapClapClapClapfor Country Pie.


Posted By: eddiefang
Date Posted: August 03 2010 at 22:23
There are many memorable bass lines from Chris Squire! Besides the ones mentioned already, what about Sound Chaser from Relayer, or Hold Out Your Hand from Fish Out Of Water? No wonder he's the most acclaimed bass player in the progressive rock world! Clap


Posted By: scatterplot1
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 00:25
Renaissance "Song For All Seasons"(title track). As the song nears its end there is a gorgous and intense instrumental/orchestral passage with Jon Camp cranking along in a totally perfect bass part. Another fine one is Mike Rutherford's bass work on "Say It's Alright Joe"(And Then There Were Three).


Posted By: SilverAnubis
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 17:42
For the users of Spotify, I make a list from this Thread:

http://open.spotify.com/user/silveranubis/playlist/02fktApYRj5jCfaBpy4j96 - Bass on Prog


I have other two list with great basslines and performances:

http://open.spotify.com/user/silveranubis/playlist/54Z1I6AXpZqFDUZOtHNCQb - Basslines

http://open.spotify.com/user/silveranubis/playlist/6Ntw2LvIHFZ142gmluDfg3 - Bass Performances


Enjoy!


Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 03:27
eloy - atlantis agony.... (last part)


Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 03:47
It's always hard to call to memory at the snap of a finger, but I think "Red", "Can-Utility and the Coastliners", "Siberian Khatru", "Pre-Ignition" by Voivod and "Babylon" by Aphrodite's Child are my favorites. 


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 16:39
Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

It's always hard to call to memory at the snap of a finger, but I think "Red", "Can-Utility and the Coastliners", "Siberian Khatru", "Pre-Ignition" by Voivod and "Babylon" by Aphrodite's Child are my favorites. 
Aphrodites Child featuring ace bass player ...errmm...Demis RousosLOL Wink
Nice choice actually. I love that album.


Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 04:25
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

It's always hard to call to memory at the snap of a finger, but I think "Red", "Can-Utility and the Coastliners", "Siberian Khatru", "Pre-Ignition" by Voivod and "Babylon" by Aphrodite's Child are my favorites. 
Aphrodites Child featuring ace bass player ...errmm...Demis RousosLOL Wink
Nice choice actually. I love that album.

Dude, actually? That album has some SICK bass playing that it never gets credit for. Although now that you say it, yeah, it's kind of weird to think of Demis Roussos playing bass. 

"Heeeeaaaarrr the winnnnnndddddd play a saaaaaad old sooooonnnnggggg..."

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Posted By: idiotPrayer
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 09:01
the first one on leave that thing alone by rush is an all-time favourite of mine



Posted By: Antennas
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 09:24
Uhm. Of course the works of any progmusician who's ever picked up the thingie which is so prominently visible in my signature should be mentioned here... and you already have done so. :)
 
Another absolute fav of mine is Colin Edwin's fantastic bassline on PT's Hatesong. Just amazing. Clap
And it's not even a Rick he plays! Shocked


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Posted By: cjgone
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 12:21
money- pink floyd. :d

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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 07 2010 at 05:57
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by b4usleep b4usleep wrote:

it's a great bass line. It's not important whether prog or not
ClapI agree. Snow Dog is a sorehead sometimes, don´t worry.

I'm not being a sorehead. Just look at the thread title.

So it is import5ant( in this thread) wether its Prog or not and your clap doesnt change t5hat.


I cant undrestand "t5hat"  and what mean of "5". BUT I agree with Snow Dog. Somany great bass line exist in Disco or Hard Rock category but we talk about Progressive.


Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 07 2010 at 06:07
In my opinion I like PT's "Hate song", Manfred Mann's Earth Band's " Starbird", Rush's "YYZ", Genesis's" In the Cage", Gabriel's " Red Rain" and Stanley Clarke's " School Days" .......
Oh my god. Too many grat base lines!!!  I cant list all of them. We have too many styles and great bass players with different touch and too many composers and too many ......


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: August 07 2010 at 12:17
Saw a mention of Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, would have to go with that, Mike has these catchy, funky basslines here and there. In the Cage has some great basslines right where the interlude begins.  Yes's Yours Is No Disgrace.  Gentle Giant's Experience has a really cool one.  Seconding Song for all Seasons too, but I'll go for the bassline Camp plays in the initial part of the song. Any  mentions of Thela Hun Gunjeet, didn't notice, if so.  From jazz fusion,  Brand X's Running of Three/Nuclear Burn. Also Return to Forever's Sorceress, Herbie Hancock's Chameleon.


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: August 07 2010 at 12:18
And Steely Dan is not really what I consider prog but since they are in a prog category here, I will also mention Glamour Profession and I Got The News. 


Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: August 08 2010 at 02:41
Ah, yes, and I forgot Never Let Go by Camel, FOR SURE !!!!!

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 08 2010 at 02:51
Having just received IQ - The Wake (deluxe edition) through the post just yesterday I will add Headlong to the list. Tim Esau is superb on that (and the rest of the album)


Posted By: sydbarrett2010
Date Posted: August 08 2010 at 18:58
colin edwin - hatesong (porcupine tree)

roger waters- money(pink floyd) (why nobody mentioned this song its the best bass line ever)

tony levin - one time(king crimson)


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 10 2010 at 05:20
Simple. Hugh Hopper's bass break taking Soft Machine's Moon In June from Robert Wyatt's avant pop-rock song to the jazz rock instrumental ending (ex. Third).

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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 10 2010 at 09:40
Chris Squire - Siberian Khatru
Patrick O'Hearne - Rubber Shirt
Mike Rutherford - Get em' Out by Friday
Jeff Berlin - If You Can't Stand the Heat / Adios a la Pasada (Bruford - Feels Good to Me)
Stanley Clarke - Schooldays
John Wetton - Presto Vivace & Reprise - UK
 
 
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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: August 10 2010 at 09:50
Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


I'm not being a sorehead. Just look at the thread title.

So it is import5ant( in this thread) wether its Prog or not and your clap doesnt change t5hat.


I cant undrestand "t5hat"  and what mean of "5". BUT I agree with Snow Dog. Somany great bass line exist in Disco or Hard Rock category but we talk about Progressive.
 
 
I5t's a 'Masonic' 5thing
 
Is5'nt it?  Ermm 
 
ps: I nearly go5t in at Hendon.... AND I've go5t a second-hand apron  Wink 
 
 


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 10 2010 at 09:56
Originally posted by Rabid Rabid wrote:

Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


I'm not being a sorehead. Just look at the thread title.

So it is import5ant( in this thread) wether its Prog or not and your clap doesnt change t5hat.


I cant undrestand "t5hat"  and what mean of "5". BUT I agree with Snow Dog. Somany great bass line exist in Disco or Hard Rock category but we talk about Progressive.
 
 
It's a 'Masonic' thing
 
Is5'nt it?  Wink
 

Ye5's!

LOL


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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 10 2010 at 09:58
i wanted to mention, especially since no one has, the great bassist  for the Italian fusion group Dedalus -Furio di Castri
       his bass work all over the self-titled Dedalus debut album from 1973 is really something to behold
         his style is just perfect



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