Tim Burton vs Terry Gilliam
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Topic: Tim Burton vs Terry Gilliam
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: Tim Burton vs Terry Gilliam
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 13:18
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Both directors have their distinct styles, with origenal landscapes and with a special warmth. both use alot of styeld amlmost animated scenes, I bet Tim Burton has learnd more of Gilliam though in hes style then the oppesitt, but I would bet that Gilliam may have noticed Burtons style as well
I saw Immaginarium of Doctor Parnassus yesterday and that was a brilliant movie, loved the vissuals and the colours, also seen Brothers Grimm and Jabberwochy, 12 Monkeys and most of Pythons.
I have seen most of Burtons movies from Batman, Beeteljuice until Sweeney Tod, I like hes gothic style (but I tend to think that he can varry he's casting, Johnny Depp and Bonham Carter is in all he's latest movies, (thoe they are two of my favourite actors It dossent hurt to change). he's dark, gothic, victorian style is one of the aspect i like about him.
I havent seen all to much of Gilliams work so can't myself wote, but I see similarities in their style, their tone, they both utelise animation to a High degree with perfection, both have influenced eachoter in different degree (to my eyes at least, and for knowning the impact of Monthy Python) and Burton is a nerd so he have probably sucked in alot of quirk, sharm, humour, and staging from MP, but as a filmaker I think Burton have also influence Gilliam in return by redefining much of what is vizual on screen during the 90s
Yeah Iknow i write alot
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Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 13:20
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I would say both because I'm very big fans of both of them, but I had to go with Gilliam because Burton has never made anything as brilliant as Brazil. Interesting poll BTW, I'm curious to see the results. ------------- 
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 13:35
Burton. I don't understand any of Gilliam's movies. 
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Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 13:58
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Oh and shame to anyone who dares vote for none.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 13:59
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I just love Gilliam. and I hate what Burton made of the Alice-books. so my vote clearly goes to Gilliam -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 14:03
I just did. I prefer Uwe Boll. Naaaaaaa, just kidding. I would say Tim Burton until "Planet of the Apes" and Terry Gilliam from times to times. But, in fact, deep in my heart, I prefer Melies. |
CinemaZebra wrote:Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 14:04
| my favourite Burton movie has to be, Batman, Beeteluice, Nightmare before Christmas and Charlie and the Chocolate factory |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 18:12
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I love Burton... but he's not all he used to be these days. His immortal movies are of course: Edward Scissorhands, Nightmare Before Christmas, Batman. I really dislike his remakes though, like Willy Wonka and so on. Terry Gilliam is an amazing director. His best works are friggen untouchable. On a whole other plane of existence. Time Bandits, Brazil, Tideland, Parnassus, The Holy Grail, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas... No one can touch Gilliam at his best. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 19:20
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Burton has never sucked me in the way Gilliam has. There's a certain bias due to me becoming such a big fan of Terry's Python cartoons when I was young.
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Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 20:16
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I voted Tim Burton, but I regret that in a way, reading these posts above me. Burton never did anything nearly as brilliant as Brazil, and Gilliam never did anything nearly as bad as Alice....still, though, I'd say Burton was (note the past tense) more consistent, and really influenced a relatively large chunk of pop culture with his macabre style.
Shoulda voted for both. ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 20:17
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I voted Tim Burton, but I regret that in a way, reading these posts above me. Burton never did anything nearly as brilliant as Brazil, and Gilliam never did anything nearly as bad as Alice....still, though, I'd say Burton was (note the past tense) more consistent, and really influenced a relatively large chunk of pop culture with his macabre style.
Shoulda voted for both. ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 20:17
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I voted Tim Burton, but I regret that in a way, reading these posts above me. Burton never did anything nearly as brilliant as Brazil, and Gilliam never did anything nearly as bad as Alice....still, though, I'd say Burton was (note the past tense) more consistent, and really influenced a relatively large chunk of pop culture with his macabre style.
Shoulda voted for both. ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 20:18
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^ Wow no idea what happened..... ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 20:59
| Can't say I'm a big fan of either... |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 04:34
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Gilliam, without a doubt, even if just for Fear & Loathing and Brazil. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 06:19
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Burton becasue I cant understand Gilliams '12 Monkeys'
and besides heres 3 reasons to choose Burton
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 07:07
^ And here's one more:  |
Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 07:20
| I like them both. They are 2 of the most original directors and have unique vision and takes on things. Scary, but I actually understand some of Gilliam's movies! |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 10:33
Batman and Robin is considered one of the worst movies of all time... definitely NOT a reason to vote for Burton - not to mention the fact that HE WAS NOT A PART OF THAT MOVIE |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 10:35
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ah hah thats right. But any excuse to post a picture of Uma ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 10:51
To be fair, no version of Alice has ever been a patch on the books. Also Burton does a "return to Wonderland" so it's bound to be different. All in all I like his version....visually its the best......but its a good film rather than excellent....imo. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 10:56
Well I certainly can't hold that against you.  |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 11:52
Good poll. Both great in their own way so I'm gonna vote Both  ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 12:58
| Gilliam although I did find Ed Wood to be a vastly underrated movie. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 15:14
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Gilliam by miles. Never was really a Burton fan...even back in the day/ ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 16:07
What he said. And Brazil is my favourite film of all time. |
Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 17:21
| Is this a joke? |
Posted By: Mia
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 17:29
| Tim Burton would be my favourite but I do do love Terry Gilliam's Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. |
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 17:49
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Both have made distinctive and eye-popping movies. Gotta give it to Gilliam though. He puts so much craft and attention into his pictures, while Burton seems to just grind them out. ------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 17:49
I adore Brazil. That and Kubrick's Clockwork Orange were my two pillars of films. So Gilliam it is, but I do like various Tim Burton films very much. I haven't seen Parnassus. One to look for. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 21:05
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Gilliam. The Fisher King, The Adventures of Baron Munchausen, Brazil, Time Bandits...and...
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I enjoyed Burton early on with Beetlejuice and Ed Wood, but his dependence on Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter as characters in nearly every thing he makes has gone past the point of annoyance. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 06:14
| Definitely Gilliam. Brazil and Time Bandits are 2 all time favorites and many of his other films are just amazing too. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 07:18
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