Best Hard Rock Album Ever?
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Topic: Best Hard Rock Album Ever?
Posted By: WatcherOfTheSkies88
Subject: Best Hard Rock Album Ever?
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 10:03
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I think that Deep Purple's "In Rock" is likely the greatest hard rock album ever made. First of all, it includes the greatest rock song of all time, IMO, in "Child in Time". Secondly, the rest of the album is just straight-up awesome heavy Blackmore guitar riffs, great Gillan screams, frantic Paice drumming, thick Glover bass-lines, and distorted, brilliant Lord organ playing. The album just never lets up, except for a few quiet moments in "Child in Time". I was listening to "Hard Lovin' Man" last night and I was thinking to myself "Geez, this song was made in 1970! This is one of the heaviest songs I've ever heard!". And then of course, you have other masterful rock songs in "Speed King", "Bloodsucker" and "Flight of the Rat". Other possibilities for greatest hard rock album ever include: Black Sabbath - Paranoid Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin What do you guys think? |
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 10:07
| Ever. Right. |
Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 11:42
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But IQ isn't even hard rock.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 14:00
this one: I will post all 6 tracks -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 14:05
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^^ Just started my first listen and it's already better than anything by Led Zeppelin.
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Posted By: WatcherOfTheSkies88
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 15:16
| Those High Tide songs are pretty heavy for 1969, but they're kind of aimless jams for the most part. Some good riffs and solos, but not really any good melodies or vocals. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 15:37
it may appear like pointless jams at first listen, but there are very beautiful and complex meldodiies on that album too; just listen to the very complex theme of "Death Warmed Up". and we have some real polyphony on that album too, for example in "Walking Down Their Outlook" ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
WatcherOfTheSkies88 wrote:Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 15:52
Indeed I am impressed. I'm not sure if it's the best hard rock album ever though, that might require some more listens. 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 16:30
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the High Tide is much more than just aimless jams, especially those bonus cuts I'd have to go with Physical Graffiti |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 16:37
| In Rock. As much as Led Zeppelin are my favourite band, they never to put on just one kind if stuff on an album or in a concert. |
Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 17:56
   
Four of my favourites.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 17:59
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love that SLB cover |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 18:01
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Zeppelin's Physical Grafitti ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 18:13
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that Captain Beyond album is a nice little gem too
------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 19:33
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Let's not forget The Who's Live At Leeds. Not saying it's the best, but it surely ranks right up there with In Rock. ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: July 18 2010 at 21:23
| I certainly haven't heard enough to make a judgement on this, but if a poll outside prog circles was made, surely Led Zeppelin IV would win, or be very very close to the top. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 18 2010 at 21:24
| Physical Graffiti is by far Zep's best, and I quite like Captain Beyond too |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: July 18 2010 at 22:05
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I would go with Who's Next or Quadrophena along with some of the others mentioned. I also think Steppenwolf's first album could be talked about as it happened in 1968. Maybe even Led Zeppelin's first too. ------------- 
"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 00:18
This coming from the guy who thinks music died in 1989. Anyways, I'm all for a Thin Lizzy nomination. Who else loves Jailbreak!?  |
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 02:35
| Zeppelin IV. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 06:36
| I'll throw in mentions for Rainbow Rising and Montrose's debut but overall I'd go for Led Zep II. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 07:20
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^^^ Montrose?? That's a name I've not heard since the early 80's courtesy of Tommy Vance.
My choice would have to be 'Who's Next?' by The Who, although ask me again in six months time, and it would be something different. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 07:51
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It has to be a Led Zep thing for me : Depending on the time of the week : Monday : I Tuesday : II Wed : III Thurs : IV Friday : House of the Holly Satur : Physical... Sunday : Presence ------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness. Emile M. Cioran |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 13:01
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Van Halen I AC/DC - Highway To Hell Blue Öyster Cult - Live (1975) Alice Cooper - School's Out MC5 - KICK OUT THE JAMS! |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 13:41
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Led Zeppelin - IV and Physical Graffiti
The Who - Who's Next and Who by Numbers
Boston - Boston
Heart - Dreamboat Annie
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Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 16:00
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I second the votes for Physical Graffiti and Who's Next
I'll also add Houses of the Holy into the conversation.
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Posted By: Anirml
Date Posted: July 19 2010 at 18:55
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Blossom Toes - If only for a Moment (1969). A really great hard psych rock album! This one is really great! almost growling in 1969 Another great band is Jericho Jones from Israel Jericho - Jericho (1972) also Jericho Jones (same group as Jericho. Before Jericho Jones they were called The Churchill's) - Junkies Monkeys & Donkeys (1971) Both are really good! \m/ Prog Metal? From 1968. And a nice prog song Lucifer's Friend - Lucifer's Friend (1970). Nice Hard Rock. Sounds like a mix of Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin ------------- 
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 02:23
The first Montrose album is a long forgotten classic, good call Alan  - also Rainbow Rising (been listening to that today on the way to work as it happens...). Andy - you beat me to 'Who's Next' - absolute blinder (by far my favorite Who album)
A couple more for you: 
Not a bad track on this album - Aerosmith really arrived in 1976 with this one, a definite 5 star in my book. And I cannot believe this one's not been mentioned: 
Frequently listed in poll after poll as one of the greatest live hard rock albums ever - and with good reason
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 03:24
 Completely forgot about Aerosmith. Toys in the Attic is also worthy of mention. ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 04:11
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^^^ Good call, Jim & Tarquin. Aerosmith made some great albums in the 70's. I really like 'Draw the Line' and 'Rock in a hard place' too. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 04:52
 how about Motorhead's "No Sleep 'til Hammersmith"? ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 06:09
Oh yes - if only for the stream of innuendo that is '10 inch record' 
The 'Live Bootleg' album's a frequent visitor to my CD player as well - seriously raw & Aerosmith at their peak -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 06:54
One of my favourite live albums!  ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 07:18
Not forgotten by me! (although I try to keep the cover hidden as much as possible).
Talking of live albums, UFO's "Strangers in the Night" is another classic.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 09:12
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Ah - Strangers In The Night, yet another good call (and as you say, a somewhat less dodgy album cover than Montrose's "hello boys") -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 13:15
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^ If we are considering live albums......then I will have to choose UFO-Strangers In the Night. These are some of the best songs compiled live I can think of in the Hard Rock category.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 14:42
(However, What's Wordsworth Motorhead live 1978 is also worth a listen V raw) ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 16:51
Possibly the worst album cover ever?  |
Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: July 20 2010 at 19:01
Pretty safe to say this is the one of the best live rock albums ever and captured the band at the high point of their career. Just cooks from start to finish and I've never heard another power trio quite like them...so very unique. My favorite's got to be an often overlooked rock and roll gem Cosmo's Factory by CCR ------------- 
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: July 21 2010 at 10:05
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No question for me: Deep Purple in Rock. Although an honourable mention must go to Lucifer's Friend's first album (see above). To my mind this beats both LZ and Sabbath. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 22 2010 at 08:57
Yeah, I like 'Whats Wordsworth' too. Very raw. The opening to The Watcher is a complete mess, but it somehow comes together eventually.. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 25 2010 at 21:20
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i would like to mention- Budgie-Budgie Blue Cheer-Outsideinside Dirk Steffens-The Seventh Step Bloodrock-Bloodrock 2 |
Posted By: jplanet
Date Posted: July 26 2010 at 02:31
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Talking about pure hard rock, with a minimum of that mamby-pamby stuff we call prog: AC/DC - take your pick from Back in Black, Highway to Hell, Dirty Deeds, Powerage Bad Company - Bad Company Led Zeppelin I, II The Who - Live at Leeds Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak Black Sabbath - Masters of Reality, Heaven and Hell ------------- https://www.facebook.com/ShadowCircus/" rel="nofollow - ..::welcome to the shadow circus::.. |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 21:13
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Physical Graffti. Hands down. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: Ronnie Pilgrim
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 22:12
Hell yeah! That was one of my favs growing up. Thanks for reminding me.
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Posted By: Klogg
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 14:26
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1- Lucifer's Friend-Lucifer's Friend 2- Deep Purple-In Rock (very close to the first) 3- Uriah Heep-Demons and Wizards 4- Rainbow-Rising 5- High Tide-Sea Shanties -------------  Pentagram Pizza YumYum Bloody 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 16:22
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The Sweet - Give Us A Wink (don't listen to much hard rock
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Posted By: inrainbows
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 16:45
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I think these Black Sabbath - Paranoid Deep Purple - In Rock Led Zeppelin - IV ------------- 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 17:13
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1. Fireball - Deep Purple
2. Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
3. II - Led Zeppelin
Yeah, I know too classic and obvious, okay here are some others which I wouldn't consider one of the best, but still are great:
Medusa - Trapeze
Fly by Night - Rush
Ready 'n Willing - Whitesnake (though maybe it's more blues rock.. )
High Voltage - Ac/Dc
Look at Yourself - Uriah Heep
Never Turn Your Back on a Friend - Budgie
Hair of the Dog - Nazareth
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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 17:22
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Split - Groundhogs
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 17:52
This, pretty much.------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 22:31
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Spooky Tooth's Spooky Two would have to rank right up there. There's guitars and Hammonds growling up out of the belly of that beast. Evil Woman has probably my second favorite rock guitar solo of all time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asPK_3KV4V4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asPK_3KV4V4 ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 02:13
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Yet more classic recommendations - I'd completely forgotten The Groundhogs' 'Split' & as for Spooky Tooth, (their version of 'I Am The Walrus' is a stunner ) -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 25 2010 at 20:11
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Hi,
Hawkwind - Space Ritual (bring your Michael Moorcock!)
Gong - Floating Anarchy (specially side 2 with Ali Baba!)
Hawkwind - Electric Tepee (with its slight Ambient Rave Rip!)
Amon Duul 2 - Yeti (don't forget the sandoz!)
Nektar - Recycled (total non stop stomp) ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 25 2010 at 20:15
I'm a "Crosscut Saw" and "Black Diamond" man myself ... but it should be noted that it was Toni's version of "Amazing Grace" that got Jimi to do another anthem a couple of weeks later!
LIVE RIGHT! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: August 25 2010 at 20:17
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Led Zeppelin IV and Rising come to mind.
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Would you like some Bailey's? |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: August 27 2010 at 15:39
No love for this little guy : ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 27 2010 at 15:54
DIO WASN'T LITTLE!!!  He was just a bit below the average size (and he was a better singer than 90% of any rock singer). |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 27 2010 at 16:18
Slight overeaction.I don't think he was having a go at him
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Posted By: Gooner
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 22:00
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Best hard rock album ever, Eh? That's a tough one.
Here's my top 10 list:
Deep Purple - "In Rock"
Armageddon - "Armageddon"
Mountain - "Nantucket Sleighride"
Captain Beyond - "Captain Beyond"
Blue Oyster Cult - "Secret Treaties"
Spooky Tooth - "Spooky Two"
Thin Lizzy - "Bad Reputation"
Scorpions - "Fly To The Rainbow"
Demon - "British Standard Approved"
Rainbow - "Difficult To Cure"
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 22:07
Nice to see someone mention Nantucket Sleighride. What with Felix hanging around, it occasionally just touches the borders of prog. ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: Gooner
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 22:20
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I'd toss in some SRC from Detroit too...but they were more psych than hard rock. Love that High Tide "sea shanties" album too, but more psych than hard rock.
Honourable mention should go to The Stooges - "Fun House"
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Posted By: jsem
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 15:58
Does van Halen ring a bell? |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 18:51
| the allman brothers eat a peach |