Tons of glitches
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Topic: Tons of glitches
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Subject: Tons of glitches
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 13:01
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From losing reviews to not being able to post on the forums there are tons of glitches on the site. I just spent over an hour and a half trying to post this rather interesting interview I did with Rainer Wahlmann ( dies irae, Green Wave ). What really ticks me is that I put a lot of work into preparing the questions and the man took the time to answer them. And It's a pretty amazing interview. I'm getting very frustrated with wasing all this time. 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 13:09
You should get a newer computer... Maybe something from the 17th century? 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 13:40
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What kind of errors are you getting Ian? Are you seeing Server or SQL Error messages, or is the page just buggering off onto some other random web page? (usually a page from your browser Favorites list).
I've always found the edit box to be problematic and gltichy, I've tried Internet Explorer, Opera, Firefox and that Googly Chrome thing and they all bomb at some point or other. I strongly recommend using an off-line editor or word processor for any long reviews and posts and then cut and paste the text from that into the reply box. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 13:45
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Those sons pf bitches, the gremlins of your glitches.
------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 13:46
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The best way to experience PA and the forum is to use recent browser IE8, Firefox 3, Chrome, Opera. Since PA features are more and more adapter and optimized for theses new browsers , it always good to upgrade when possible.  ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 13:51
^ That doesn't fix the problem M@X ... if you type too fast in the reply box or hit a wrong key-sequence the page reloads or loads a different page and the work is lost, that seems to be independant of which browser I'm using (I generally stick with IE8)
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Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 13:53
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Dean, I understand. There is always the option to change the EDITOR to TEXT ONLY ? I will check if one member can change his preferences to replace the HTML EDITOR to PLAIN TEXT. ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 13:54
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Yes
... there is an option Enable the WYSIWYG post editor (ON/OFF) Only browsers that are detected as being Rich Text Enabled will have this feature available when posting. Sounds like a good option for power users / posters ? ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 13:56
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Just back from a "holiday"..... I will post a new interview now and see if this works/if there is still a glitch. If I can make it work and he/she cannot make it work, Vibrationbaby sends me the interview and I post it and credits it to him/her. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 14:26
| I don't have any problems but then I haven't posted many reviews lately. What I have learnt is that you should ALWAYS ALWAYS type them in Notepad, Word or something first, then save them and then copy and paste into PA. That way, if anything does go wrong you just paste it again. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 15:00
Oh No... I've just switched that on and it's dreadful - All I can see in your quote box is crap-loads of DHTML like this:
That's not going to work.  ------------- What? |
M@X wrote:Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 15:19
I'll just post the interview along with some personal photos he sent me on my personal website ( that I never have a problem with ) and someone can lift it from there. I don't have time to play around with computers. Really. To tell the truth they really don't interest me either. I remember when the site was young there weren't all these problems. This is why I don't write that many reviews anymore because I've lost so many with that time expired glitch.. They guy has also sent me a bunch of mp3s which he's given me permission to use on the site. ------------- |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 15:22
| I've never had these problems, and my browser isn't new. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 15:23
My friend even tried to copy and paste it on the site and couldn't do it on his more modern computer.. That's when I tried to type it in and got this time expired thing twice. ------------- |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 16:11
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mailto:M@X - M@X - that "time expired thing" Ian is referring to is an SQL timeout message like this: Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '800nnnnn' Timeout expired ------------- What? |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 00:17
Hmm, time to switch to Linux, maybe? 
I would guess this is what happens when the SQL server gets too many requests at once. ------------- 
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 10:13
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Yes, I went to Future Shop, the local experts in electronics who deal with everything from computers to large TV screens and I asked for a technician and he even couldn't do this and gave me an explanation in computereese why it couldn't be done. So I said to him "it's the site then?" and he said "yeah it's the site". So I dunno. I've got a really great interview and it can't be posted. What really irks me is that I spent a lot of my spare time on this. What I'm going to do is post it on my personal site and link it and whoever wants to read it can go there.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 10:45
| Maybe you should ask toroddfuglesteg - he manages to post loads of interviews without a problem. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 13:37
I have. Now someone else is telling me it's the f**king goddam server. Why do these computers always f**k up.. When I was growing up we had something called mail. You put something in a box or envelope that you wanted to send to someone and went to the corner put it in a red box and then a man in a truck would come and empty everything people put in the red box and put it in his truck and take them to a big post office warehouse where they were sorted according to where each item was supposed to go and a few days later they would arrive at their destination. You get the gist. When I was in the air force I flew the plane ( the F-111C ) you see in my signature. Although the plane looks quite modern it was from the 1960s and was used in the Vietnam war. It had a goddam computer added to it in later years which was operated by the navigator who sat beside me. The thing would always die on us and either we would have to scrub the mission or go on manual. The computer was supposed to allow the aircraft follow terrain at low level avoiding obstacles and adjusting to changes in terrain features. About 8 aircraft were lost as a result of the computer screwing up and flying the aircraft into the ground killing 16 good men. Now I don't have the time to post this rather excellent interview that I conducted in June because I am busy for the next few days because of a goddam computer . I am seriously considering getting rid of it.I'm going to go and have few beers. ------------- |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 15:14
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Now that I have calmed down and have a few beers in me, and since I'm a nice guy I will make one final noble attempt to MANUALLY type in the interview. Tomorrow. Unfortunately no pictures that I had planned. But something has to be done about this timeout expired thing man. Do something because I am not the only guy who is encountering this goddam problem.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 15:35
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 18:30
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I don't think Macs have Notepad |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 19:27
So,
 , to you too.------------- What? |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 19:40
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If Macs have Notepad, then they sold out irreversibly Also, I didn't check what Ian used for browsing PA today, but I know for sure he's the only 16th century guy to own a MAC, ever!
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 20:10
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Do the glitches give you itches?
------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 22:40
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...but there so many stars................
Type, copy and paste, submit.
I learn't that typing reviews many moons or galaxies ago  ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: July 15 2010 at 10:58
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I have figured out a way to defeat the timeout expired bloody thing. Type a little bit then post reply then go to post options and edit post. So far this is working. But it's absolutely ludicrous that I have to do it this way. Unfortunately I can't include the photos that were sent to me. I will post them on my own website nevertheless. Another guy tried to copy and paste who knows computers and he gave me the same explanation as the guy in the electronics store. It's the site.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 15 2010 at 12:38
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Let's try a little experiment. I'm going to paste one of my old reviews straight into this box after this and click "post reply". I reckon it will post it all okay. During the comparatively barren times for progressive music in the early 70s, guitarist Bill Nelson (William Nelson, 18 December 1948, Wakefield, West Yorkshire, England) recorded the limited edition Northern Dream. Tapes of this collector's item were played by the pioneering disc jockey John Peel on his legendary BBC Radio programme, Top Gear. The line-up of Nelson, Nicholas Chatterton-Dew (drums), Robert Bryan (bass, vocals) and Ian Parkin (d. July 1995; guitar) recorded Axe Victim as Be-Bop Deluxe. Nelson soon disbanded the outfit, and following a tour supporting Cockney Rebel, he formed a new band, taking members from that fragmented unit. This short-lived combo also broke up. With the addition of bass player Charles Tumahai (b. New Zealand, d. 21 December 1995) and drummer Simon Fox, Nelson released Futurama and Sunburst Finish. The latter included a surprise hit single, "Ships In The Night". Nelson's undeniable talent as a guitarist began to dominate the band and as his technical virtuosity grew, the songs became weaker. Nelson abandoned the name in 1978 for the more radical Red Noise, retaining keyboard player Andrew Clark from the old band, although he now records under his own name. During their peak, Be-Bop Deluxe were an exciting and refreshing band who were ultimately unable to find a musical niche that suited their varied styles. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 15 2010 at 12:38
| Yep, it did. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 15 2010 at 12:40
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Let's try something a bit longer - (long bit of text now removed) |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 15 2010 at 12:41
| No problem there. |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: July 15 2010 at 16:58
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This problem has been around for years. I suggest people (in the meantime) ctrl + C their reviews before clicking the post button. Review goes away - no biggy, just ctrl + V and it's back. WHOOOOAAAA  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Also - I hereby sentence this thread to add "...you sons of bitches" to the end of the thread title to make it awesome. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: July 16 2010 at 13:26
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Well I solved both problems in these ways : Forums I find you have about 7-10 minutes max before that time out thing shuts you down. So after 5 minutes just to be on the safe side hit post replly. Then edit. after another 5 minutes post reply and then edit and so on. Reviews Just submit a rating then edit it and you won't lose it. I have an acquaintance who works in the computer science department at McGill University who I'm going to meet with tomorrow to get him to have a look a t this. ------------- |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 16 2010 at 13:39
I still don't underrstand whtyyou don't just write in notepad or something and then paste it. Takes seconds not minutes. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 16 2010 at 14:07
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This doesn't make sense anyway. The timeout is not the time from opening the text-edit box to hitting [Post Reply], it's the time from hitting [Post Reply] and the server processing the form-submission. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 16 2010 at 14:16
Slow network connection he's got maybe? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: July 16 2010 at 14:28
Not sure that you care, but if you do that, your review never shows on the front page. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 16 2010 at 14:56
Yeah that's always kind of bugged me, but not too much. Once I noticed that I save my ratings for reviews. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 03:49
Just to be on the safe side, type it all in Notepad and then copy it, like we said before. |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 29 2010 at 03:50
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NEVER trust posting a full review without copying to word first or at least copying it somewhere. It's too risky and I used to lose reviews all the time. ------------- 
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