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Topic: How is this name pronounced?
Posted By: Rabid
Subject: How is this name pronounced?
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 22:16
British football commentators keep referring to the Dutch-born Liverpool midfielder Dirk Kuyt as 'Cowt', but I reckon it's pronounced 'Kite'.
 
I've got 2 reasons for thinking this:
 
1. There's a Dutch drink called DeKuyper. It's pronounced Dee-Kiii (as in eye)-per.
 
2. Jose Mourinhio called him Kite, in an interview, and he worked with Dirk Kuyt.
 
I can't see any circumstance where 'Kuy' would be pronounced 'Cow'. If so, then 'guy' would be 'gow'
and 'buy' would be 'bow'.
 
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the Dutch language is'nt so different to English, regarding punctuation.
 
It's not a 'matter of life and death' thing, but I'm seriously getting p*ssed off with commentators who just
'say what they see'. These guys are being paid big bucks to commentate......the LEAST they could do is learn the proper pronounciation before spouting a load of crap, and making a complete dick-head of themselves.
 
Will welcome ALL comments (except mis-pronounced ones). Dutch speakers given preference.
 
Good luck for the WC finals, btw. (I got you at 9/1 for a £20 stake). Don't let me down....I need some skunk.
 
Ying Yang
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 04:48
I've only heard it as "Kite" but from my knowledge Dutch has really weird and surprising pronounciations, very different to what you'd expect. I'm curious too.


Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 04:52
Yup, it's quite different. I don't think there's anything in English being pronounced the same way Kuyt is pronounced in Dutch. 

Here you go:



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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 04:56
That's a sort of Kaet... More surprising was that he said "Dirk" in a prolonged manner, more like "Derek". Thanks Loek.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 05:00

I don't know how anyone could capture the sound of this exclusively Dutch diphthong in writing, but I found http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Nl-ui.ogg - this audio-file . "Cowt" and "Kite" are both wrong.



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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: July 10 2010 at 02:44
Thanks guys !!  Thumbs Up
 
That's certainly put my mind in a turmoil !  Wacko  Tongue
 
 


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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 10 2010 at 08:13
It's not that difficult Wink .
 
To be honest, you must know that we Dutch are often struggling to pronounce the English "th" right Embarrassed, not pronouncing it as "t" or "s" or "z".
 
Next on this channel: how to pronounce the Dutch "g", as in Louis van Gaal and Ruud GullitLOL .


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 10 2010 at 13:15
^ That's easy, it's pronounced just like the so called "guttural wind" from ancient Greek, I suppose most people here know that right? WinkLOL


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 10 2010 at 13:36
Raymond Luxury Yacht Tongue

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 10 2010 at 13:38
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

That's easy, it's pronounced just like the so called "guttural wind" from ancient Greek, I suppose most people here know that right? WinkLOL
Oh no, we speakers of Dutch are much more subtle. It's more like a guttural breeze Cool LOL


Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: July 10 2010 at 23:56
in England, I understand they pronounce the word "perfect' as. "pesfect"
 
fascination/language


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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 18:49
Robbed, in extra time.  Ermm
 
 
Bugger.  Unhappy
 


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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 19:02
Originally posted by halabalushindigus halabalushindigus wrote:

in England, I understand they pronounce the word "perfect' as. "pesfect"
 
fascination/language
 
Only when they're drunk, or have a speech impediment.  Wacko
 


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 19:13
Dirk Keut (Dirk Koyt)


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 21:16
how do you pronounce cesc fabregas?



Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 09:19
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Dirk Keut (Dirk Koyt)
 
Koyt is something else:
 
Jopen Koyt beer
 
(Recommended! )


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 15:06
 draaaaaaaaaawl


Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 12:05
At the beginning [0:00] and at the end [0:56] of the video the dutch commentator clearly pronounces the word 'Kuyt':





Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: September 06 2010 at 12:11
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Next on this channel: how to pronounce the Dutch "g", as in Louis van Gaal and Ruud GullitLOL .
 
I'm off to listen to Henesis.........Hong.............or maybe even Hentle Hiant.  Wink
 


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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: September 06 2010 at 12:12
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

how do you pronounce cesc fabregas?

 
Hunner.  LOL
 


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 06 2010 at 12:41
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

At the beginning [0:00] and at the end [0:56] of the video the dutch commentator clearly pronounces the word 'Kuyt':





First he says "Kowt" then at the end he says "Kait", LOL


Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 15:21
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Raymond Luxury Yacht Tongue
 
Don't even get me started on phonetics LOL  No wonder people have such a hard time with the English language. Is that Yacht as in Yot, or Yacht as in Yatched?
 
ie  Devil....pronounced  de (as in egg)...vil....(as in villa)
     Evil.......pronounced e (as in easy)
     Level....pronounced le (as in leather)....vel (as in velocity)
 
 
So why is'nt Devil pronounced Deeee-vil
Or Evil pronounced Ev-all?
Or Level pronounced Lee-val or even Le-veel?
 
Bough = bow
Rough = ruff
Cough = off
 
So why not Cough = cuff or cow?
Bough = boff or buff?
Rough = row or roff?
 
Oh, mate.....
FFS.
 
LOL
 
 


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 16:19
I think it was George Bernard Shaw who showed that ghoti is pronounced "fish" -

gh as in "rough"
o as in "women"
and ti as in "nation"


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:25
With a silent q. Wink

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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 19:02
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I think it was George Bernard Shaw who showed that ghoti is pronounced "fish" -

gh as in "rough"
o as in "women"
and ti as in "nation"

I've never heard women pronounced "wih-men", it's always been "woh-men".


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 07:11
Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I think it was George Bernard Shaw who showed that ghoti is pronounced "fish" -

gh as in "rough"
o as in "women"
and ti as in "nation"

I've never heard women pronounced "wih-men", it's always been "woh-men".

I believe if they're really cute it's pronounced whoa man. LOL


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 08:02
Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I think it was George Bernard Shaw who showed that ghoti is pronounced "fish" -

gh as in "rough"
o as in "women"
and ti as in "nation"

I've never heard women pronounced "wih-men", it's always been "woh-men".
Really? In the UK it's wimmin.


Posted By: John McIntyre
Date Posted: November 11 2010 at 17:39
Partly hi-jacking this thread, but for a related reason, the Engineer on King Crimson's "Red" album was George Chkiantz. I know how George is pronounced, but what about Chkiantz? And (purely out of curiosity) where does George's surname originate (apart from his father!)?

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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: January 22 2011 at 04:37
Ok, I'll try to explain it again. uy like ui is a unique dutch diphthong, that hardly exists in other languages.
In Kuyt try to start with a weak ca like in Costa Rica and end with the second half of newt (omit the ny sound at the beginning).


Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: January 22 2011 at 06:45
Dirk Kuyt- it's pronounced misses Wink

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