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Topic: Phideauz - 7½ is cancelled!Posted By: progmetalhead
Subject: Phideauz - 7½ is cancelled!
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 02:26
Oh, the fickle world of plans. Someone said to make a plan if you want to see God laugh. Nothing every turns out the way you think it will!
So, we've been working on a few different things, but the main thing was an album we called 7½. It was called this because it would follow our album Number Seven. It was called this because it was NOT the follow up to Doomsday Afternoon/Great Leap. It was called this to underscore that it was not a concept album and that it was a collection of pieces we'd been working on that had no other homes.
We had recorded "Tempest Of Mutiny" for a various artist album/graphic novel tie-in about Pirates (not yet released to the best of my knowledge)...
We had recorded "Strange Cloud" for a Musea various artists concept album called Purgatorio...
We had written and rewritten and been playing "Out Of The Angry Planet" live and it was a complex and awesome song...
We had recorded "Have No Fear" as a "final" song for Number Seven, but had withheld it because the Dormouse tracks had emerged in the 11th hour and it seemed superfluous...
We had recorded a semi long song called "Star Of Light" which seemed to be a great epic for the 7½ album.
THEN, something happened, and it happened again. "Star Of Light" grew some new parts. I started to develop the song and new angles appeared. Bits of the song that were mere footnotes started to take on a life of their own and it kept suggesting opportunities for new directions. As the band would reconvene for rehearsals/recordings/gigs I would suddenly come up with a new section that we needed to rehearse and record. The requisite groans could be heard. MORE of "Star Of Light"????
So, now that we have a version of Star Of Light that has become a song cycle of its own, we have started to put it side by side with various other pieces to see what the ideal order for the album would be. Every reference disc that I audition seems shocking to me. It seems no other song wants to live on the same disc with the new track... So, now we have discovered that 7½ is no more. It is now an album entirely devoted to the single song "Snowtorch" (which contains Star Of Light and its various variations and additional movements).
I am very excited and I hope you will be when we are able to release this next album of Phideaux music entitled "Snowtorch".
post script: All the songs which didn't make it onto the new album will be collected as part of our Brief History Of Stuff And Nonsense project which is a compilation of remixes, edited versions of songs and unreleased tracks. This we hope will emerge toward the end of 2010. Meanwhile, fingers crossed for "Snowtorch" by the end of Summer (that is, Summer's End).
Replies: Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 02:30
What?! No!
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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 07:53
Wait wait, this is a good thing, we still get the bulk of 7.5 on the compilation album plus we get the new and improved Snowtorch album. I'm thinking the Phideattitude for the year has just doubled.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 10:22
As disappointed as I am, I'm glad everything at least will be released at some point in time. Number Seven being my album of the year 2009 the title of the topic scared me, so I'm gonna go change my pants real fast
Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 10:54
The topic title scared me too but in the end - I think this is good news, and am excited to hear the new album. Any new Phideaux music is good, in my mind :)
Posted By: Progfan1958
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 11:46
Well Snowtorch it is. Great that it's coming out ( hopefully ) within the next few months ! Kudos to Phideaux.
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Posted By: progmetalhead
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 11:59
Sorry guys.
I didn't mean to worry you but the subject line is identical to the MySpace subject line and I didn't want to interfere with that, seeing as it was such important news to so many of us.
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 12:05
I just wish Phideaux would release a feature live DVD. After seeing the snippets in that new prog movie, I want to see a full show on DVD!
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 12:33
Finnforest wrote:
I just wish Phideaux would release a feature live DVD. After seeing the snippets in that new prog movie, I want to see a full show on DVD!
I wholeheartedly agree with this notion, the clips from the DVD were pretty great. It was pretty good the way they spliced Phideaux playing a little melody on the piano with the full live performance and then back, too.
Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 12:35
An album long song by Phideaux? I'm game!
I really need to get Number 7...
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 12:35
Finnforest wrote:
I just wish Phideaux would release a feature live DVD. After seeing the snippets in that new prog movie, I want to see a full show on DVD!
Yeah!!! I'd buy it a second. One of those artists where I pretty much will buy anything when it comes out without hesitation.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 21:24
TheGazzardian wrote:
Finnforest wrote:
I just wish Phideaux would release a feature live DVD. After seeing the snippets in that new prog movie, I want to see a full show on DVD!
I wholeheartedly agree with this notion, the clips from the DVD were pretty great. It was pretty good the way they spliced Phideaux playing a little melody on the piano with the full live performance and then back, too.
Yeah, obviously they filmed a show, and the quality looked amazing. So maybe its gonna happen. Hopefully Phideaux will see this thread and pop in and let us know.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 22:24
My god, the anticipation is starting to hit me! Come on Snowtorch!!!
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 11:43
Guess I'll just keep waiting for "Infernal" then...
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: July 11 2010 at 12:47
Finnforest wrote:
TheGazzardian wrote:
Finnforest wrote:
I just wish Phideaux would release a feature live DVD. After seeing the snippets in that new prog movie, I want to see a full show on DVD!
I wholeheartedly agree with this notion, the clips from the DVD were pretty great. It was pretty good the way they spliced Phideaux playing a little melody on the piano with the full live performance and then back, too.
Yeah, obviously they filmed a show, and the quality looked amazing. So maybe its gonna happen. Hopefully Phideaux will see this thread and pop in and let us know.
I believe that the video snippets that you're seeing are from the 3RP show that they did last year.
My understanding from his news list is that he's not entirely happy with the band's performance of the show and won't be releasing the entire show. I'm paraphrasing here, but it was something to the effect of the band going too fast for large parts of the set. There are sections that are good in his eyes, but alas, the entire show is too erratic for his tastes.
As some fans who were at the show mentioned, it was a fantastic show and I'm in with the rest of you, I'd buy it in a heart beat.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 11 2010 at 19:33
Sounds pretty amazing to me, I'd be next in line to buy it
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: July 11 2010 at 21:48
The Truth wrote:
Sounds pretty amazing to me, I'd be next in line to buy it
Me too! And thanks Roland for posting that!
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: July 11 2010 at 22:07
Roland113 wrote:
My understanding from his news list is that he's not entirely happy with the band's performance of the show and won't be releasing the entire show. I'm paraphrasing here, but it was something to the effect of the band going too fast for large parts of the set. There are sections that are good in his eyes, but alas, the entire show is too erratic for his tastes.
As some fans who were at the show mentioned, it was a fantastic show and I'm in with the rest of you, I'd buy it in a heart beat.
Followed the link in the youtube video description, the 3RP has the DVD of the even up for sale - includes some Phideaux music according to the cover. http://www.3rprogfest.com/index.php?content=merch
Posted By: mothershabooboo
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 15:41
As much as I'm heart broken about not owning a copy of 'tempist of muteny' yet; I'm overjoyed of this new Snowtorch piece. Can't Wait!
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 17:47
As it so happens, I am listening to Doomsday Afternoon for the first time (and consiquently Phideaux) as I read this and I'm loving it! The suggestion that there might be new materiel available at the Summers End festivel, of which they are headlining the Sunday afternoon and I'm attending, is very good news for me.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 18:35
So would that make the new one being done instead 7-3/4 or 7-1/4? Might I also suggest 7-7/8? 7-255/156?
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 12 2010 at 18:50
Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 09:35
I don't really care what he releases at the moment. As long as it's studio recordings of music I haven't heard before, I WANT IT. I like all of his releases (well, haven't tried anything before Ghost Story, but anyways), and I love the last two. How he gets it to us, in what order and whatnot, is not of too much concern to me. But new music from Phideaux! I've been waiting at least a year for this news.
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Posted By: CaptainZero
Date Posted: July 16 2010 at 00:00
Snowtorch eh? Ok...I'll settle for that. Any Phideaux is good Phideaux. :)
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: July 16 2010 at 06:49
TheGazzardian wrote:
Roland113 wrote:
My understanding from his news list is that he's not entirely happy with the band's performance of the show and won't be releasing the entire show. I'm paraphrasing here, but it was something to the effect of the band going too fast for large parts of the set. There are sections that are good in his eyes, but alas, the entire show is too erratic for his tastes.
As some fans who were at the show mentioned, it was a fantastic show and I'm in with the rest of you, I'd buy it in a heart beat.
Followed the link in the youtube video description, the 3RP has the DVD of the even up for sale - includes some Phideaux music according to the cover. http://www.3rprogfest.com/index.php?content=merch
You're welcome all.
. . . and yeah, I totally forgot about the DVD's being sold by Howard (host of 3RP). I didn't realize that he had finished editing the 2009 DVD's yet, but that's probably a great way to go. The show was fantastic with a lot of great bands. I may have to pick that one up myself.
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Posted By: natewait
Date Posted: July 16 2010 at 18:36
I can't wait for the new album, Snowtorch, it sounds interesting.
Doomsday Afternoon and Number Seven are two of my favorite all-time albums, so I expect this new one to be good too!
Phideaux is fast becoming one of my favorite all-time prog artists.
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