Foxtrot vs. Selling England by the Pound
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Topic: Foxtrot vs. Selling England by the Pound
Posted By: pots555
Subject: Foxtrot vs. Selling England by the Pound
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 20:15
Just curious. My favourite is Selling England by the Pound. But I really enjoy Supper's Ready.
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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 20:17
| SEBTP. My favourite Prog Rock album ever. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 20:22
| Foxtrot is cool. Selling England tops it though. |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 20:23
Used to be Selling England... Then it was The Lamb... Now it's Foxtrot  That's how I roll  ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 20:26
| Both are excellent, but Foxtrot slightly edges it for not having tracks like More Fool Me and I Know What I Like. |
Posted By: Canprog
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 20:35
| Selling England By The Pound despite having More Fool Me. |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 20:38
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Foxtrot, definitely. ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Sirsound
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 20:52
Love both, but Foxtrot has always done it for me. 
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Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 22:19
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Ironically, I've been spinning both a lot lately, but Foxtrot is my favorite Genesis album. Both are virtually flawless, but I think Foxtrot is bit more consistent for my tastes. ------------- Continue the prog discussion here: http://zombyprog.proboards.com/index.cgi ... |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 22:36
| Selling England by the Pound... if only it didn't include The Battle of Epping Forest (for me, this song demerits the album more than More Fool Me and I Know What I Like). |
Posted By: squire4001
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 23:09
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Of course both albums are legendary, but Foxtrot is not perfect at all ..althought in SEBTP they reach to the balance in their music so I´ll go with it... ------------- Prog´ everyday in every way of your life including music! |
Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 23:43
| Selling England by The Pound. |
Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 00:45
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Easiest poll ever for me. (Foxtrot)
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 01:31
| Foxtrot x 10 |
Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 01:32
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Good idea. *ruins poll*
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 01:34
| wow you actually did that? Thanks, glorifiedstripeydonkeyatthemovies |
Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 01:42
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Captain Clutch wrote:Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 01:47
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There is no such beautiful album as Foxtrot
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Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 01:51
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Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 01:54
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a thousand maybe
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 02:55
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Foxtrot by the thickness of a hair. ------------- 
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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 03:24
| Foxtrot. I dislike the pop-sound of SEBTP. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 04:21
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Foxtrot, mostly for 'Suppers Ready' and 'Can Utility...'
I can understand why SEBTP gets the praise it does. It was the album, where the band really started to play well together, and the production is better than its predecessors. Firth of Fifth and Cinema Show are, without a doubt among the bands best songs, but I tend to prefer the live versions I've heard. However, the Suppers Ready on Foxtrot has never been done better with Collins at the helm. Not that I've heard anyway. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 04:34
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Foxtrot by a mile or two, maybe three. ------------- 
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Posted By: VonSchlemmer
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 04:47
It's all about Get em' out by Friday <3
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Posted By: poslednijat_colobar
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 05:12
| Foxtrot by little!!! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 05:58
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I have a few bands that I never stop listening to, but it´s funny how their records change over time. Some of my favourites now have easily super-seeded, what I initially thought of being "the absolute masterpiece" of the band. Pink Floyd, King Crimson, The Doors, Black Sabbath, Genesis, Herbie Hancock, David Bowie, Jimi Hendrix, Captain Beefheart, Porcupine Tree, Amon Düül 2 and a biib-load of others- all share this quality. Incidentally, if you´d asked me this question a year ago, I´d pick Selling over Foxtrot. Today it´s the other way around. |
Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 06:52
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Foxtrot. No real weak track on the album and you've got Watcher of the Skies, Get 'Em Out By Friday, Can Utility and the Coastliners (one of the great under appreciated prog songs), and Suppers Ready! SEBTP has Dancing... and Firth of Fifth. The other songs are okay, but no match for Foxtrot.
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Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 06:58
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And how come Selling.. is number 1 in PA top 100 list while Foxtrot is number 5? Look at the results ------------- Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper, your deafness a shout. |
Posted By: Progist
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 09:03
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Foxtrot for me, all the way
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 12:39
Yeah but how many times did CinemaZebra vote? |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 12:51
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Foxtrot for foxsake. ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 13:15
| Two of the greatest albums ever but Selling England tops it.....just. |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 13:31
Hard to explain why I think that. I'll guess that Selling has more people who would give it a 5, but the people who would give a 5 to Foxtrot, which is many, like it a lot more. There are many cases where average ratings don't reflect on how popular it is. Most people like Brain Salad Surgery more than ELP's debut for instance, but the debut has a higher rating. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 13:33
| No, it's because CinemaZebra voted 25 times... |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 14:07
Feeling very sorry for SEBTP and also had a bad day dealing with nasty local council bureaucracy, so SEBTP gets my vote tonight. If ONLY things were done as they used to be
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Posted By: Geizao
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 14:02
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Fox...uuppss... Selling England..half an inch upper. |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 14:07
| Oh man. I couldn't possibly pick between these two. |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 19:56
Selling England by the Peso, I mean, Pound.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 21:01
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I'm hot to trot for the Fox although I might sell out for England. What's cool about those albums is there was a change in style but it's still all progressive. Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme are closer cousins. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 21:28
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OH HELL NO I WONT LET THIS HAPPEN
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 23:15
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^^
........how long did it take you to submit all those votes?
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Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 23:17
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A couple of minutes.
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Posted By: Basíleia
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 05:07
Whoops, I voted twice for Selling England, sorry: I thought my vote hadn't been submitted  Well, than at least you know what I voted - I've already explained why in the other Foxtrot vs. Selling England-thread.
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Posted By: Badabing666
Date Posted: July 10 2010 at 07:51
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Foxtrot
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Posted By: cemshid
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 15:54
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we finally been freed to get back home.. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 16:00
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Foxtrot hands down, but please don't use multiple option polls.
Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 16:13
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Selling England.
Foxtrot has a lot of great music too, and I immediately loved it, but Selling England grew on me through the years.
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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 16:56
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Foxtrot, without question. Selling England By The Pound has always been just short of great to me because it's too unfocused. Foxtrot is really streamlined and gripping, and no prog song, ever, will be better than Supper's Ready. ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 17:41
| I liked more in the past and always shall like more Selling England than Foxtrot. |
Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 17:45
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Of course it's Selling England! I mean, hello! Firth of Fifth, best guitar solo ever! ------------- Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love (Introitus - The hand that feeds you) |
Posted By: Mystery
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 18:00
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Foxtrot.. I've never understood the hype around Selling England... since only about 3 of the songs are often lauded, yet the others have either mixed opinions or are generally hated. Foxtrot has no really weak track, yet I can't really stand to listen to about half of Selling England... |
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 18:25
| I think this poll should be redone with multiple votes unselected. |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 18:44
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Selling England By The Pound because I don´t know to dance a foxtrot and I know how efficiently spend the pound. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 19:31
| Coin flip. Both great albums. Both superior to anything that is released by so called superstar groups these days. |
Posted By: Chela
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 02:10
 It ruins the point of a poll, doesn't it? |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 02:30
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After the top 3 of Lamb, Trick and Wind, I guess Selling England is my next favourite. Without Wardrobe and Epping Forest it could be the best. I've never found Foxtrot to be very special, I prefer Trespass to it. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 03:17
This poll is a very good occasion for Army of Clickers. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 03:49
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Foxtrot, i always tought SEBTP was a litle boring. ------------- 
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Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 06:05
<That of left
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 09:08
| Foxtrot. Both are great, but there is no weak track on Foxtrot and Selling England has "No Fool Me" which is not a good song. |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 11:52
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Oh! I´ve expecting it! Army of clickers is raging here. One thousand votes are incredible. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 11:55
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It's a proof of how meaningless a multiple votes poll is. Iván -------------
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 15:27
Well those Selling England By The Pound fans are just not putting the required effort in
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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 15:34
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Cool, someone voted another 750 times for Foxtrot today. -------------
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 20:30
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I did it in 65 seconds just to prove how futile is to make multiple choice polls.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 29 2012 at 12:57
Oh, my God! How could Foxtrot beat SEBTP? SEBTP has a more audible Hackett guitar, brainy compositions, and a serious concept. Foxtrot has some cold music and incoherence on 'Supper'.
I'm tasting my own medicine, and it is bitter.
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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: April 29 2012 at 22:30
| Where's the "Damn, I can't choose" choice like on the other Foxtrot poll? |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 29 2012 at 22:32
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Somebody sold England by the vote.... ------------- 
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 30 2012 at 03:18
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Lol at this poll. foxtrot ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 30 2012 at 05:02
| What the hell??? |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: April 30 2012 at 05:16
| Foxtrot, easily. It's not just More Fool Me that brings down SEBTP, but also The Battle Of Epping Forest which I've always found nigh-insufferable. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 30 2012 at 05:23
There are weak tracks on Foxtrot. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 30 2012 at 07:10
| Yeah, someone's really messing with the votes both ways ... considering the fact that we are only on the 4th page. |
Posted By: spknoevl
Date Posted: April 30 2012 at 07:45
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I simply can't choose between these 2 classic era Genesis releases. I think Nursery Crymes, Foxtrot, Selling England and.....Trick of the Tail are all equally great. ------------- http://martinwebb.bandcamp.com The notes are just an interesting way to get from one silence to the next - Mick Gooderick |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 30 2012 at 10:33
The starter made an open poll, that's useless, because people can vote as many times as they want. Iván -------------
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: April 30 2012 at 10:36
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SEBTP, my favourite Genesis album.
Edit: And what's happening here? Aahhh, multiple votes
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 30 2012 at 11:13
Well, at least the results are accurate.  ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: The-Winkler
Date Posted: April 30 2012 at 13:39
| Foxtrot |
Posted By: Darious
Date Posted: September 16 2014 at 02:27
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Supper is ready for me too: Foxtrot all the way. It's a true masterpiece. Selling England in its two best bites, that are Firth of Fifth and The Cinema Show, sounds like an improvisation to me for most of the time. I am obviously aware that Selling England tops most of charts, but as for me, Foxtrot is better and Supper's Ready is a fantastic piece of music in all history of music, of all genres. The positive reception of Supper's Ready, I am pleased to admit, is even being further enhanced through reading relevant part of Chris James' Stories of Genesis (selling by the Pound for Kindles). They are seriously powerful turbochargers for best Genesis' artwork! ------------- Writing about truth is a little bit like getting your dick out in public and hoping no one laughs (Steve Hogarth) |
Posted By: WrytXander
Date Posted: September 16 2014 at 13:51
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Supper's Ready was a masterpiece, Watcher was simply stunning, Out by Friday was extraordinary, Horizons was beautiful, Can-Utility was breathtaking and Time Table was not bad at all. But never better than Selling England. Sure, it had the awful More Fool Me, but it had 5 masterpieces as well as a great bookend track. I Know What I Like is definitely forgiveable, seeing as it was basically a catchy prog track (imo). It's a wonder how Foxtrot managed to crush SEbtP so hard... EDIT: After discovering what "multi-vote poll" means, it's all very clear to me...
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 16 2014 at 14:00
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^Ah, see what happens with multi polls?
"Doing the right thing is never superfluous." |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: September 16 2014 at 14:01
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^ What is the right thing here?
Edit: never mind; I think I got it. |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: September 16 2014 at 14:01
| Selling England by the Pound. Better all around album. Better musicianship. Lacked a little aggression; not able to punch through on some tracks. But, oh well, neither was as good as any of the others (The Lamb, Nursery Cryme, Trespass). They still represent a high standard though. |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: September 16 2014 at 14:52
same here! that along with Watcher of the Skies of course. of course the vote goes to Selling England..... wait, what the f**king f**k happened here? ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: September 16 2014 at 15:05
Wow, never seen so many votes  just 1 for Foxtrot from me
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Posted By: PrognosticMind
Date Posted: September 16 2014 at 17:57
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Wow, look at the contrast between these two records! I thought for sure that everyone was "Selling England By The Pound" obsessed .------------- "A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous. Got me?" |