My own NEARfest 2010 review
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Topic: My own NEARfest 2010 review
Posted By: Raff
Subject: My own NEARfest 2010 review
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 06:08
For those of you who are interested in reading what I wrote after the event, here's my review just published on the ProgressoR website:
http://www.progressor.net/nearfest2010.html - http://www.progressor.net/nearfest2010.html
Hope you enjoy it, and feel motivated to take part in this wonderful event next year!
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 06:38
Thanks for the review Raff, your description got me excited about Moraine and Forgas Band. For those curious, here's an excerpt of Raff's review for Moraine:
Staggering, Ephebes Amoebus, Nacho Sunset and Disillusioned
Avatar are all largely improvisational in nature, but inasmuch as
most of the arrangements on the first three of these grow from the
(skeletal, mainly drums-based) swing framework, each reveals quite a few
standard jazz tricks as well. With the latter track, however, the
quintet gets into more adventurous territory. Totally cohesive despite
featuring few unison soloing lines and no recurring themes at all, Disillusioned
Avatar is a refined jazz-fusion phenomenon and sounds interesting
throughout. However it is chamber rock-related compositions that are the
real highlights of this effort, even though some of those are inferior
to the others. Revenge Grandmother and the title track are
brilliant from start to finish, each plunging the listener into an
amazing musical journey, full of pleasing surprises.
http://www.progressor.net/review/moraine_2009.html - http://www.progressor.net/review/moraine_2009.html
And John's (Easy Money) review:
Review by
../Collaborators.asp?id=15367 - Easy
Money
FORUM & SITE ADMIN GROUP Jazz-Rock/Fusion
../Collaborators.asp?id=15367">
Sounding somewhat like a mix of Lark's Tongue in Aspic, Fred Frith's
Gravity, Bartok string
quartets and McLaughlin's Indo - fusion, Moraine's Manifest Density
draws on Progressive
Rock's past, but synthesizes something totally fresh and new at the same
time. With two string
players on board they are able to expand further on the violin-rock
sound initiated by
Mahavishnu Orchestra and King Crimson. In fact, it's that seamless mix
of semi-sting section
and jazz-rock trio that is the hallmark of this band's sound. Although
this band can improvise on a scale comparable to the best fusion bands,
their love of
progressive rock composition often makes them more similar to jazzy
prog-rock bands such
as Focus or Quiet Sun. Meanwhile, their tendency to favor heavy
diminished scale riffs with
odd-metered rhythms will bring on the Mahahavishnu/Crimson reference
again. To their credit
though, despite all the obvious tributes to their favorites of the past,
Moraine never sounds
cheaply derivative or short on original musical ideas. Also, their
tendency towards the
occasional 'pretty' melody or chord progression makes them different
from the harsher
members of the jazz-rock set. Album closer, Middlebrau, in particular
recalls a classic
escalating 'prog-rock' chord progression, but with a more modern less
indulgent approach. Like many of the artists on the Moonjune
label, Moraine has a very pure 'live' sound with little
or no overdubbing or slick studio technology. The exact antithesis of
ambient nu jazz, acid jazz,
trip-hop or much of today's post-Laswell neo-psychedelic music, the
individual musical lines
of each player can be clearly heard and they are not buried beneath
reverb, echo and a
plethora of modern 'dubbing' techniques. If you are looking for a modern
and original
extension of bands like King Crimson, Henry Cow and Mahavishnu
Orchestra, Moraine has it.
This band sounds really awesome from these reads, I definitely need to check this out!
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 06:47
Alex, the Moraine review on ProgressoR was written by Vitaly Menshikov himself, not me - while the Forgas Band Phenomena review is all my own. Thanks a lot for the kind words!
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 06:48
Oh, sorry about that, I'm not used yet to Progressor's page style, the review author name didn't catch my eye though it was very visibly placed
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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 13:59
Great review Raff, written with clarity and precision, as always. I would have loved to go if it were anywhere near me.
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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 16:46
Very lenghty and greatly done report. I like these, informative and I get as much feelings and experiences of yours from them as possible.
I wish I'll see the fest one day.
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-Andyman1125 on Lulu
Even my
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 17:42
Marty, I don't know if you have visited the USA, but I can tell you that the centre of Bethlehem does not look anything like a 'typical' US city. As regards Central Europe, I am more familiar with Hungary, Austria and Germany than the Czech Republic, which I have never visited - and definitely found similarities. Then again, if you expect an American town (founded about 200 years ago) to look like something at least three or four times as old, then you're bound to be disappointed... Anyway, I'm sure you read about the Moravian community in Bethlehem, and its rather famous church.
In any case, this review is about the music first and foremost, and I don't see any need to nitpick in this way. Sorry to be blunt, but this is the way I feel.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 18:32
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 19:17
harmonium.ro wrote:
Thanks for the review Raff, your description got me excited about Moraine and Forgas Band. For those curious, here's an excerpt of Raff's review for Moraine:
Staggering, Ephebes Amoebus, Nacho Sunset and Disillusioned
Avatar are all largely improvisational in nature, but inasmuch as
most of the arrangements on the first three of these grow from the
(skeletal, mainly drums-based) swing framework, each reveals quite a few
standard jazz tricks as well. With the latter track, however, the
quintet gets into more adventurous territory. Totally cohesive despite
featuring few unison soloing lines and no recurring themes at all, Disillusioned
Avatar is a refined jazz-fusion phenomenon and sounds interesting
throughout. However it is chamber rock-related compositions that are the
real highlights of this effort, even though some of those are inferior
to the others. Revenge Grandmother and the title track are
brilliant from start to finish, each plunging the listener into an
amazing musical journey, full of pleasing surprises.
http://www.progressor.net/review/moraine_2009.html - http://www.progressor.net/review/moraine_2009.html
And John's (Easy Money) review:
Review by
../Collaborators.asp?id=15367 - Easy
Money
FORUM & SITE ADMIN GROUP Jazz-Rock/Fusion
../Collaborators.asp?id=15367">
Sounding somewhat like a mix of Lark's Tongue in Aspic, Fred Frith's
Gravity, Bartok string
quartets and McLaughlin's Indo - fusion, Moraine's Manifest Density
draws on Progressive
Rock's past, but synthesizes something totally fresh and new at the same
time. With two string
players on board they are able to expand further on the violin-rock
sound initiated by
Mahavishnu Orchestra and King Crimson. In fact, it's that seamless mix
of semi-sting section
and jazz-rock trio that is the hallmark of this band's sound. Although
this band can improvise on a scale comparable to the best fusion bands,
their love of
progressive rock composition often makes them more similar to jazzy
prog-rock bands such
as Focus or Quiet Sun. Meanwhile, their tendency to favor heavy
diminished scale riffs with
odd-metered rhythms will bring on the Mahahavishnu/Crimson reference
again. To their credit
though, despite all the obvious tributes to their favorites of the past,
Moraine never sounds
cheaply derivative or short on original musical ideas. Also, their
tendency towards the
occasional 'pretty' melody or chord progression makes them different
from the harsher
members of the jazz-rock set. Album closer, Middlebrau, in particular
recalls a classic
escalating 'prog-rock' chord progression, but with a more modern less
indulgent approach. Like many of the artists on the Moonjune
label, Moraine has a very pure 'live' sound with little
or no overdubbing or slick studio technology. The exact antithesis of
ambient nu jazz, acid jazz,
trip-hop or much of today's post-Laswell neo-psychedelic music, the
individual musical lines
of each player can be clearly heard and they are not buried beneath
reverb, echo and a
plethora of modern 'dubbing' techniques. If you are looking for a modern
and original
extension of bands like King Crimson, Henry Cow and Mahavishnu
Orchestra, Moraine has it.
This band sounds really awesome from these reads, I definitely need to check this out!
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not just the Band Alex... but Dennis Rea (the guitarist of Moraine) has some GREAT stuff available on Moonjune. I picked both of them up from Leonardo
Just finished this..
The 'Mean Streets of Pyongyang' is killer
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 19:22
oh yeah.... I see HT has his review of Nearfest up on his site. Check it out, and give the man some deserved kudos.
http://riekels.wordpress.com/ - http://riekels.wordpress.com/
Complete with yet another reason why I avoid camera's like the plague.
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 19:31
How nice it was indoors in the middle of summer. That part of the country can be unbearable in the summer.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 21:52
Very nice review Raff!!! Irony being that Astra and The Pineapple Thief were probably the two bands that I would have looked forward to the most, and apparently they were lesser received than the rest of the set.
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 23:22
Sounds like it was an awesome show :). I wanted to go but live too far away to have swung it, at least with my current schedule - hopefully some year though!
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 11:01
Nice review Raff! Sounds like it was a great show... and one I would've loved to be at if I had some more money.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 13:04
micky wrote:
oh yeah.... I see HT has his review of Nearfest up on his site. Check it out, and give the man some deserved kudos.
http://riekels.wordpress.com/ - http://riekels.wordpress.com/
Complete with yet another reason why I avoid camera's like the plague. |
Cant think why Micky, very photogenic!
And great reviews from Raff and HT, makes me green with envey.
------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 13:49
Great picture of you guys!
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 14:09
harmonium.ro wrote:
Great picture of you guys!
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That's sweet of you, Alex... I think I look awful, but that's nothing new!
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 14:30
You were looking in a different direction but that's fine with me, I love to see people when they're not "posing". Imperfection is beauty
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 15:56
harmonium.ro wrote:
Imperfection is beauty
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then I must be f**kin Brad Pitt
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 16:06
rushfan4 wrote:
Very nice review Raff!!! Irony being that Astra and The Pineapple Thief were probably the two bands that I would have looked forward to the most, and apparently they were lesser received than the rest of the set. |
I thought the criticism of Astra was ..well.. a bit harsh. It wasn't so much the music.. it was stuff like stage presence. Ok.. whatever.. if I wanted to be entertained or engaged I would have gone to see a comedy show or met the band afterward and shot the sh*t over a Newcastle. I just wanted to see music.. and with Astra.. you got it. By the way... loved the use of the Bullet chase sequences during the music. Everyone mentions the bad (Zardoz)..but come on... Steve McQueen... 67 Mustangs and the mean streets of San Francisco. I loved it.
Oh well.. can't please everyone.
As far as Pineapple Thief.. come on... we all knew that was going to attract some.. and completely turn off some. Lord knows we have some around here who think anything with a wiff of pop can't be prog. I thought they could have played to the audience a bit more.. I'm no PhD astrophysicist.. but knew they treaded a fine line of losing or not connecting with a bunch of middle aged proggers who got completely excited by seeing 'One and a Half Friends'
Oh well.. can't please everyone.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 16:12
micky wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Imperfection is beauty
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then I must be f**kin Brad Pitt
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I think you're much better and much more to a certain pair of eyes
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 16:48
harmonium.ro wrote:
micky wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Imperfection is beauty
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then I must be f**kin Brad Pitt
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I think you're much better and much more to a certain pair of eyes
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geee.. thanks. I am flattered Alex.. but I am married.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 16:53
Easy Money wrote:
How nice it was indoors in the middle of summer. That part of the country can be unbearable in the summer. |
oh man.. you ain't kiddin brother. Last week.. hot (pun intended) on the heels of Nearfest we caught Yes and Peter Frampton.. outdoors. Yuck.. I think I left a pool of melted Micky in my seat by the end of the show...
great show though.. Frampton smoked and Yes was... Yes!.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 16:55
You and Yes finally connected. Great news!!!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 17:01
rushfan4 wrote:
You and Yes finally connected. Great news!!! |
yep.. no monsoons... no Bizzards of the Century.. no flocks of locusts ...
completely enjoyed it.. I had some issues with the mix.. but it was a great show. They had a huge crowd for this one and must have inspired them.
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 12:02
micky wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
How nice it was indoors in the middle of summer. That part of the country can be unbearable in the summer. |
oh man.. you ain't kiddin brother. Last week.. hot (pun intended) on the heels of Nearfest we caught Yes and Peter Frampton.. outdoors. Yuck.. I think I left a pool of melted Micky in my seat by the end of the show...
great show though.. Frampton smoked and Yes was... Yes!.
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It has been absolutely perfect weather for about 6 weeks here in So Cal. Everyday with a few low clouds to start the day with afternoon sun about 73 every day. I had to take a trip to Florida for a couple days last week and I about melted. 85 and 70% humidity. Then I had to stop over in Phoenix and it was 108. (Don't give me this stuff about a dry heat!) You couldn't even get near the windows in the terminal. I can't imagine anyone sitting for 4-5 hours in the heat to watch a show!
The one and only time I got to Nearfest was in 2005 and only to see the Preshow but during the whole week prior only the Sunday July 3rd was really hot. (We sat through an enactment of Pickett's charge at Gettysburg and it was sweltering!) The rest of the week we spent a lot of time outdoors too visiting Gettysburg, Antietam and Harpers Ferry and the weather was pretty mild. Even spent one night in NYC where it rained like crazy. So I can't relate to how hot it may have been there. But mostly for me is the really high humidity. Just putting on my shoes in the morning makes me sweat!!
BTW lest I forget great reviews by both Raff and HT. One of these days you guys need to get out to our less spectacular but more cozy CalProg shows. Jim has a pretty good lineup this year with Ambrosia (playing a special prog rock set), rpwl, District 97 and MirtIKon
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 17:53
Garion81 wrote:
micky wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
How nice it was indoors in the middle of summer. That part of the country can be unbearable in the summer. |
oh man.. you ain't kiddin brother. Last week.. hot (pun intended) on the heels of Nearfest we caught Yes and Peter Frampton.. outdoors. Yuck.. I think I left a pool of melted Micky in my seat by the end of the show...
great show though.. Frampton smoked and Yes was... Yes!.
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It has been absolutely perfect weather for about 6 weeks here in So Cal. Everyday with a few low clouds to start the day with afternoon sun about 73 every day. I had to take a trip to Florida for a couple days last week and I about melted. 85 and 70% humidity. I know... even after last winter ... I can't wait for the cold and snow to return. I hate this kind of weather. That part of being a born and bred left-coaster has never left me. Give me rain, 65.. and a good cup of coffee and I'm happy. All I can say is thank god for AC. The hell with with this 95/75 crap. Nothing like sweating through your shirt by 9am. Oh well.. September is a coming.... The one and only time I got to Nearfest was in 2005 and only to see the Preshow but during the whole week prior only the Sunday July 3rd was really hot. (We sat through an enactment of Pickett's charge at Gettysburg and it was sweltering!) At least the weather was up to the re-enactment .. it was brutal weather during that battle. Impressive to see the reenactment of Pickett's charge wasn't it. Gettysburg is one of my favorite places on earth... just to soak it all in.. the enormity of that struggle. The rest of the week we spent a lot of time outdoors too visiting Gettysburg, Antietam and Harpers Ferry and the weather was pretty mild. Even spent one night in NYC where it rained like crazy. So I can't relate to how hot it may have been there. But mostly for me is the really high humidity. Just putting on my shoes in the morning makes me sweat!! Oh Antietam.. glad you got to visit that one. The thing that hit me as I traced Barksdale's route as he hit Sedgewick's left flank in the North Woods was just how small the woods actually were. No wonder the causality rate there was highest in American history.. you probably could have closed your eyes ..fired.. and hit someone the way they packed troops in the North Woods and Cornfield. Ever make to see the battlefields here in Va? They are something.. my favorite has always been Spotsylvania. The Bloody Angle always had a morose fascination with me... not to mention incredulity of imagining 24 straight hours of hand to hand combat over the same piece of ground. Brutal.
BTW lest I forget great reviews by both Raff and HT. One of these days you guys need to get out to our less spectacular but more cozy CalProg shows. Jim has a pretty good lineup this year with Ambrosia (playing a special prog rock set), rpwl, District 97 and MirtIKon
Ambrosia huh? Sounds VERY tasty. We are going to make it out one year.. perhaps next year. I think that will be our big trip out west. I am saving my vacation this year to take December off of work and go back to Italy with Raff and spent Xmas in Rome. So no summer vacation here. Next year though.. we need to come west.. are going to. I know she'd love it.
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: July 01 2010 at 16:59
micky wrote:
Garion81 wrote:
micky wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
How nice it was indoors in the middle of summer. That part of the country can be unbearable in the summer. |
oh man.. you ain't kiddin brother. Last week.. hot (pun intended) on the heels of Nearfest we caught Yes and Peter Frampton.. outdoors. Yuck.. I think I left a pool of melted Micky in my seat by the end of the show...
great show though.. Frampton smoked and Yes was... Yes!.
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It has been absolutely perfect weather for about 6 weeks here in So Cal. Everyday with a few low clouds to start the day with afternoon sun about 73 every day. I had to take a trip to Florida for a couple days last week and I about melted. 85 and 70% humidity. I know... even after last winter ... I can't wait for the cold and snow to return. I hate this kind of weather. That part of being a born and bred left-coaster has never left me. Give me rain, 65.. and a good cup of coffee and I'm happy. All I can say is thank god for AC. The hell with with this 95/75 crap. Nothing like sweating through your shirt by 9am. Oh well.. September is a coming....
(Watch out Blue text:) I laughed out loud at work when I read that.
The one and only time I got to Nearfest was in 2005 and only to see the Preshow but during the whole week prior only the Sunday July 3rd was really hot. (We sat through an enactment of Pickett's charge at Gettysburg and it was sweltering!) At least the weather was up to the re-enactment .. it was brutal weather during that battle. Impressive to see the reenactment of Pickett's charge wasn't it. Gettysburg is one of my favorite places on earth... just to soak it all in.. the enormity of that struggle.
It was truly amazing from seeing all of these places in photographs from the time I was a kid and then seeing them in real life it was liking waking up in a dream.
The rest of the week we spent a lot of time outdoors too visiting Gettysburg, Antietam and Harpers Ferry and the weather was pretty mild. Even spent one night in NYC where it rained like crazy. So I can't relate to how hot it may have been there. But mostly for me is the really high humidity. Just putting on my shoes in the morning makes me sweat!!
Oh Antietam.. glad you got to visit that one. The thing that hit me as I traced Barksdale's route as he hit Sedgewick's left flank in the North Woods was just how small the woods actually were. No wonder the causality rate there was highest in American history.. you probably could have closed your eyes ..fired.. and hit someone the way they packed troops in the North Woods and Cornfield. Ever make to see the battlefields here in Va? They are something.. my favorite has always been Spotsylvania. The Bloody Angle always had a morose fascination with me... not to mention incredulity of imagining 24 straight hours of hand to hand combat over the same piece of ground. Brutal.
You mean that clump of trees? The bloody lane was probably the biggest eye opener and the cornfield. Then the total ridiculousness of Burnside's bridge. Sometimes the narrow thinking of the generals on the north was pretty crazy.
I hope someday to get to Virginia and see the battlefields there and Tennessee too. Hopefully before I have enough money to enjoy and I lose the physical ability to walk them .
BTW lest I forget great reviews by both Raff and HT. One of these days you guys need to get out to our less spectacular but more cozy CalProg shows. Jim has a pretty good lineup this year with Ambrosia (playing a special prog rock set), rpwl, District 97 and MirtIKon
Ambrosia huh? Sounds VERY tasty. We are going to make it out one year.. perhaps next year. I think that will be our big trip out west. I am saving my vacation this year to take December off of work and go back to Italy with Raff and spent Xmas in Rome. So no summer vacation here. Next year though.. we need to come west.. are going to. I know she'd love it.
Yeah looking forward to this CP. Whenever you get here let me know!
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