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Topic: The Exorcist film . . .
Posted By: JLocke
Subject: The Exorcist film . . .
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 20:22
I first saw this film when I was still a kid, and it certainly left an impression on me. It remains to this day one of my favorite horror films, and its impact on my taste in cinema is surely profound. 

I would like to know if any others here feel just as I do, that the film has deserved all the praises it has gotten over the years, and that it still holds up today. Or perhaps some folks here find the film to be a bit overrated. Some may even think the film is being overshadowed by more modern horror hits like The Ring, and should be given more recognition. 

Whatever your opinion, I would love to discuss this movie with you. Captain Howdy and I await your responses. Wink



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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 20:25
It was a good film, well done and all that. Great atmosphere. I don't know if it deserves all the praise it gets though. Maybe it's a bit overrated. I saw Scary Movie's parody of it before I saw the actual thing, and had heard a lot about it, maybe it lessened the effect.


Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 20:30

One of movies that I should love most.

When this movie is broadcast in Japan, some scenes are deleted. However, because all scenes are collected to DVD, I like to see them.

The scene of "Spider Walk" was an impact for me.

Postscript

Of course, Japan has some good horror movies. It is hoped that they are evaluated in foreign countries.



Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 21:09
^Can you imagine that I have never seen that famous spider walk never ever...? well, I have seen the movie several times now but always on cable and they have the edited version, I guess the spider walk was too much for TV airing so I want to get the DVD but I have not found it in Guatemala and maybe I'm too chickensh*t to actually buy it by Internet so... even I only have seen the TV edit, I can say it deserves the praise, it has a weird atmosphere and the special effects are not that great but even in our computer era the movie doesn't get dated. So... it deserves the place...

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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 21:11
Originally posted by Kazuhiro Kazuhiro wrote:

One of movies that I should love most.

When this movie is broadcast in Japan, some scenes are deleted. However, because all scenes are collected to DVD, I like to see them.

The scene of "Spider Walk" was an impact for me.

Postscript

Of course, Japan has some good horror movies. It is hoped that they are evaluated in foreign countries.


Ringu is really the only Japanese horror film that is common public knowledge over here, unless you count Anime. For what it's worth, I find J-horror to be must more cerebral and disturbing than most American scary fare. The Exorcist is one of the few exceptions for me. 


Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 21:13
Originally posted by jampa17 jampa17 wrote:

^Can you imagine that I have never seen that famous spider walk never ever...? well, I have seen the movie several times now but always on cable and they have the edited version, I guess the spider walk was too much for TV airing so I want to get the DVD but I have not found it in Guatemala and maybe I'm too chickensh*t to actually buy it by Internet so... even I only have seen the TV edit, I can say it deserves the praise, it has a weird atmosphere and the special effects are not that great but even in our computer era the movie doesn't get dated. So... it deserves the place...

Once I saw the unabridged edition of the film, the edited version pales in comparison. You really haven't seen it until you've seen the restored scenes. 


Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 21:16
I'm not going to vote, because I have mixed feelings about it. I think the first hour and a half is a snoozefest, but the last half hour is epic and totally deserving of all praise.

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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 21:36
Alright, so who here agrees with me that Pazuzu is one of the greatest villains in all cinema? 


Just look at that lovely mug!




Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 22:31
I find it incredibly overrated. It actually bored me.


Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 22:37
Finally! Some diversity in opinion! This is good. 


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 22:42
It frightened me when kid..............Now I find it boring.
 
Iván


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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 23:49
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 03:34
Impressive, but perhaps a bit overrated.


Posted By: Progist
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 07:25
I think it's good for it's time, and in that respect, it's not overrated Star

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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 08:47
I didn't see it until it was re-released in the theatres.  It does tend to drag, but that may be an effect of everything getting "faster" and our attention spans getting shorter in the years since.  It's well-acted, and definitely a landmark.  I'd say it's deserving.
 
 


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 11:07

I prefer less obvious terror movies, the excess of ketchup and green vomit is repulsive and excessive.

An example of good terror is "The Shining", except for the two bloody girls, the most terrifying moments are when Jack Nicholson's son goes in his tricycle through endless corridors and you only listen the noise of the wheels, it keeps you at the edge of the seat expecting for something hat never happens,

That's a class of terror and suspense..Movies like The Exorcist and Friday 13 abuse of the effects, when the real terror is in the panic created with the excellent use of suspense.

Iván



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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 11:15
Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Alright, so who here agrees with me that Pazuzu is one of the greatest villains in all cinema? 


Just look at that lovely mug!


LOL you know what? the funny thing (well, not so funny) is that is evident that is a dude with an awful make-up, but he scares the hell out of me each every time it appears and I know each time is going to happen, and eventhough there are no good video effects, the atmosphere and the creepy ambience it has, it's just too good (or I mean bad) to take it lightly.
 
When people said that find it boring, well, many people said the same about Apocalypse Now or The Godfather, but it's just a different time of Cinema, the slow pace is made for developing the tension of the film.
 
I like more the scene were the girl is posessed and she is seen through the window and the figure of pazuzu is shown on the back... creepy...


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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 11:18
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I prefer less obvious terror movies, the excess of ketchup and green vomit is repulsive and excessive.

An example of good terror is "The Shining", except for the two bloody girls, the most terrifying moments are when Jack Nicholson's son goes in his tricycle through endless corridors and you only listen the noise of the wheels, it keeps you at the edge of the seat expecting for something hat never happens,

That's a class of terror and suspense..Movies like The Exorcist and Friday 13 abuse of the effects, when the real terror is in the panic created with the excellent use of suspense.

Iván

Yeah... partially agree. Like Rosemary's Baby. You never see something "creepy", is pure stimulation of your brain. You have to do the work, to think, and you are all the time at the edge of your sit, is just that you never see something... the scene of the dream of Rosemary is one of the most scaring moments in cinema...

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 11:38
Never saw The Exorcist.

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Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 12:02
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Never saw The Exorcist.
See it NOW. I would say it deserves the praise it gets.


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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 12:08
Originally posted by jampa17 jampa17 wrote:

Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Alright, so who here agrees with me that Pazuzu is one of the greatest villains in all cinema? 


Just look at that lovely mug!


LOL you know what? the funny thing (well, not so funny) is that is evident that is a dude with an awful make-up, but he scares the hell out of me each every time it appears . . .

It's a woman. Wink Linda Blair's double, Eileen Dietz. 


Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 12:13
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I prefer less obvious terror movies, the excess of ketchup and green vomit is repulsive and excessive.

An example of good terror is "The Shining", except for the two bloody girls, the most terrifying moments are when Jack Nicholson's son goes in his tricycle through endless corridors and you only listen the noise of the wheels, it keeps you at the edge of the seat expecting for something hat never happens,

That's a class of terror and suspense..Movies like The Exorcist and Friday 13 abuse of the effects, when the real terror is in the panic created with the excellent use of suspense.

Iván


Did we even see the same movie? The Exorcist is very tame on the violence and much more heavy on mood and atmosphere. Sure, special effects are used, but it's about a woman being possessed, they had to do SOMETHING to sell the illusion. 

And Friday the 13th isn't even in the same league as this film. How could you possibly group them together like that? Teen sex gorefests and supernatural horror films are nothing alike. 




Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 14:28
Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:


Did we even see the same movie? The Exorcist is very tame on the violence and much more heavy on mood and atmosphere. Sure, special effects are used, but it's about a woman being possessed, they had to do SOMETHING to sell the illusion. 

And Friday the 13th isn't even in the same league as this film. How could you possibly group them together like that? Teen sex gorefests and supernatural horror films are nothing alike. 


 
I believe The Exorcist was repulsive, the vomit, blood, etc was way over the top,
 
I never said Friday 13 is in the same league asThe Exorcist, I said  both abuse of repulsive effects.
 
Iván


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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 14:53
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:


Did we even see the same movie? The Exorcist is very tame on the violence and much more heavy on mood and atmosphere. Sure, special effects are used, but it's about a woman being possessed, they had to do SOMETHING to sell the illusion. 

And Friday the 13th isn't even in the same league as this film. How could you possibly group them together like that? Teen sex gorefests and supernatural horror films are nothing alike. 


 
I believe The Exorcist was repulsive, the vomit, blood, etc was way over the top,
 
I never said Friday 13 is in the same league asThe Exorcist, I said  both abuse of repulsive effects.
 
Iván

http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/shinblood.jpg

http://www.austincinephile.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/shiningbloodygirls.jpg

Those two scenes alone have more gore than the entirety of The Exorcist. Yes, there is a bloody scene involving the girl and a crucifix, yes she vomits and has cuts on her face later on, but that's the extent of it. To act as if that film is somehow any more repulsive or violent than The Shining is just incorrect. 



Posted By: MusicForSpeedin
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 18:32
Compared to the horror movies of today it deserves all the praise it gets. Compared to the horror films of the 1970s it is a little overrated. Movies like Suspiria, Texas Chainsaw Massacre (I don't know if many consider it great, but I sure do love it), Let's Scare Jessica to Death, Magic, and the Other are all great horror films.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 19:19
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Never saw The Exorcist.


This. Therefore my favourite (so to say) horror film is The Blairwithc Project. I don't even want to see it again! LOL


Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 19:22
Originally posted by MusicForSpeedin MusicForSpeedin wrote:

Compared to the horror movies of today it deserves all the praise it gets. Compared to the horror films of the 1970s it is a little overrated. Movies like Suspiria, Texas Chainsaw Massacre (I don't know if many consider it great, but I sure do love it), Let's Scare Jessica to Death, Magic, and the Other are all great horror films.



I never thought of Magic as being a horror film, actually. Interesting.


Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 23:19
Originally posted by MusicForSpeedin MusicForSpeedin wrote:

Compared to the horror movies of today it deserves all the praise it gets. Compared to the horror films of the 1970s it is a little overrated. Movies like Suspiria, Texas Chainsaw Massacre (I don't know if many consider it great, but I sure do love it), Let's Scare Jessica to Death, Magic, and the Other are all great horror films.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAfJ4DdZCBw - Magic wouldn't even exist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34c39NBUCAY - without the much better-crafted (and also scarier) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRtBxR2Nf9c - segment from Dead of Night.



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Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 02:59
I just watched the unedited version for the first time. Let me say that it's not suspenseful or frightening in the slightest; however, there is probably the biggest WTF! moment I've ever seen. The F me Jesus part with the cross is so over the top that I couldn't even believe what I was seeing. ..WTF! LOL


Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 08:50
Originally posted by TheClosing TheClosing wrote:

I just watched the unedited version for the first time. Let me say that it's not suspenseful or frightening in the slightest; however, there is probably the biggest WTF! moment I've ever seen. The F me Jesus part with the cross is so over the top that I couldn't even believe what I was seeing. ..WTF! LOL
 
Fun fact:  The powerpop band Redd Kross named themselves after that scene.
 
 


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 16:34
Good thing you didn't make a fifth option: Tubular Bells...
Pea Soup would have been good for number five.


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Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 19:12
waiting in line for this movie was sheer Terra  People came out white as a ghost

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 04:42
Never seen it, never want to. Nuff said.

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 11:28
What does overrated mean?
As a kid I was scarred to death just looking at the movie poster or the ad in the movie part of the newspaper.
When I saw the film I was scarred, especially that I was raised Catholic....It made me think if I did something wrong I was gonna be possesed by the devil. Cry


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Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 15:28
The Exorcist is just something else. It's truly frightening in a way that most other horror flicks just aren't. Can't put my finger on it.
 
That said, my favorite is The Shining, which is, again, completely different.


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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 18:47
Maybe mr JLocke can help me with this thing. My parents went to see it in theaters back in those days. My father keep saying the he even couldn't sleep and the scene that impacted him the most was the famous "Spider walk". The thing is that this particular scene was cut from the theater version, so I don't know how my father saw it. I think the promoters that brought out the movie to Guatemala manage to get the early version used for testing audience because the formal realase was without that footage... someone has more insides about this...?

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Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 19:07
^agreed. I have no memory of a spider-walk seen. Folks if you haven't seen this movie, I implore you, don't.
You will cringe at the thought of having to go up those stairs one more time, to face The Devil. The priest has nightmares of his mother begging him, "why you do this tome?" Jason Miller is stellar in this performance and Max von Sydow, as well, as The Exorcist. I remember one time in the 70s my mom made a wrong turn on the freeway heading west instead of north..my dad was so pissed he turned around to the back of the car and threw out the window on the freeway the book I was reading.."The Exorcist" Ellen Bernstein is properly freaked-out in this movie as well. Remember don't see this if you haven't .It'll scare you,.. baby


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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 19:40
Originally posted by jampa17 jampa17 wrote:

Maybe mr JLocke can help me with this thing. My parents went to see it in theaters back in those days. My father keep saying the he even couldn't sleep and the scene that impacted him the most was the famous "Spider walk". The thing is that this particular scene was cut from the theater version, so I don't know how my father saw it. I think the promoters that brought out the movie to Guatemala manage to get the early version used for testing audience because the formal realase was without that footage... someone has more insides about this...?

Well, I can't give any further info on this film specifically, but I can tell you that the Superman DVD has 'added' footage of Lois Lane as a child riding a train than Clark Kent outruns. Apparently it had previously never been shown, yet my father actually was able to remember the scene as it was happening. He even predicted the dialogue before it was said. 

To me, this means that film companies used to be really inconsistent about which theaters got the 'final' cut of their films, and sometimes stuff would be left in at some theaters that were out of the more commercial, big-business ones. 

The idea of theaters all housing slightly alternate cuts of a single film doesn't seem that hard for me to believe, since it's fairly common knowledge that several different versions of Star Wars were released back in '77. In that case, it was different audio mixes, but still. 


Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 23:28
Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Originally posted by jampa17 jampa17 wrote:

Maybe mr JLocke can help me with this thing. My parents went to see it in theaters back in those days. My father keep saying the he even couldn't sleep and the scene that impacted him the most was the famous "Spider walk". The thing is that this particular scene was cut from the theater version, so I don't know how my father saw it. I think the promoters that brought out the movie to Guatemala manage to get the early version used for testing audience because the formal realase was without that footage... someone has more insides about this...?

Well, I can't give any further info on this film specifically, but I can tell you that the Superman DVD has 'added' footage of Lois Lane as a child riding a train than Clark Kent outruns. Apparently it had previously never been shown, yet my father actually was able to remember the scene as it was happening. He even predicted the dialogue before it was said. 

To me, this means that film companies used to be really inconsistent about which theaters got the 'final' cut of their films, and sometimes stuff would be left in at some theaters that were out of the more commercial, big-business ones. 

The idea of theaters all housing slightly alternate cuts of a single film doesn't seem that hard for me to believe, since it's fairly common knowledge that several different versions of Star Wars were released back in '77. In that case, it was different audio mixes, but still. 
 
That's very interesting indeed. But the fact that a not rated movie came all way down to my little Country is quite an interesting thing... one thing is that some theaters were chosen to review the impact with some controlled audience and another completely different to have this movie into a nobody-knows-where-that-country-is... but well, maybe they just didn't do a good job and didn't have too much control of anything...


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