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Topic: Åkerfeldt, Portnoy and Wilson (The supergroup)
Posted By: Anderson III
Subject: Åkerfeldt, Portnoy and Wilson (The supergroup)
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 03:00
PORCUPINE TREE's Steven Wilson revealed to Chordstruck Magazine that he has begun work on material for his much-anticipated collaboration with Mikael Åkerfeldt from OPETH and Mike Portnoy from DREAM THEATER. "I started writing with Mikael last month, finally," he said. "It's still in the very early days.

"We wrote about 15 minutes of music last month in my studio near London and we're very excited about it.

"I think people are going to be very surprised by the direction.

"If they're expecting some kind of death-metal-progressive rock, they're going to be surprised [because] it's not like that."

He continued, "If you put the two of us together, the last thing we're going to do is something similar to what people already know from our most high-profile project.

"It's very arty, very ambitious; it's going to be epic.

"We're still writing.

"[It's going to be] very dark, very twisted, very experimental.

"It's still rock music, but we're trying to do something really, really special and really different with this."

In a September 2009 interview with Australia's PyroMusic.net, Mike Portnoy stated about the project, "The three of us each mentioned wanting to work with each other years ago, and since then it's kind of been this rumor that won't go away. I think all three of us regret ever mentioning it at this point, but I think the hype or anticipation around it has surpassed anything we possibly could realistically deliver. So I think now all three of us are kind of hesitant to do it, because there's been so much hype about it. (laughs)

"This is an example of where the Internet can somehow be a bad thing and I think... that's why I try to keep as tight of a lid on things as possible when we're making a record, because anything that is said or leaked or heard, it opens up this can of worms of discussion and once people start discussing and discussing and discussing and dissecting and anticipating, they build up such a level of hype and expectations in their head that it's impossible to ever satisfy it. So that's one of the bad things about the Internet.

"In answer to your question though, I think we'd love to work together, but at this point, we just don't know when."

link:

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=140507


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Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 03:05
This article is from May 21. Needless to say I'm surprised it hasn't come up on the Archives until now. Smile


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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 03:12
auto-buy!

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Posted By: Tuonela
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 03:18
That sounds great!

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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 03:40
Thanks for the update

Been excited about this one for a while; hopefully it'll come into fruition in a few years.

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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 04:12
Judging from my Opeth album reviews any collaboration between Åkerfeldt and Wilson is an instant buy for me.


Posted By: Synchestra
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 07:19
Oh wow, I've heard they all wanted to do something together for a while (seems like years, really) but I always thought they were rumors. Needless to say I, like probably every prog fan my age, am very excited Big smile

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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 08:20
Originally posted by Anderson III Anderson III wrote:

This article is from May 21. Needless to say I'm surprised it hasn't come up on the Archives until now. Smile


You do realize this post was already made several days ago, right?

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67675 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67675


Posted By: Zebedee
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 08:28
Awesome Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Xanadu3737
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 18:20
For the record, there has been no official mention of Portnoy's involvement, only unprofessional assumptions by lazy journalists. Yes, he's rumored to possibly been involved in this project, but the main focus has ALWAYS been Akerfeldt/Wilson and he has always been a wild card.  Not saying it won't happen, but don't be surprised if it doesn't.

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Posted By: npoczynek
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 21:08
Whether or not Portnoy is involved, I'm happy to hear that the Akerfeldt/Wilson combination is definitely happening. Off the top of my head I can't think of any other upcoming project I'm more excited about.


Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 21:34
I'm glad to hear they've been writing material.. only a few more years and we'll have ourselves a nice little collab. album!

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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 21:39
It's probably going to be some late-era electronic minimalism, like Ulver, but with Wilson's Krautrock fetish thrown in as well. I doubt it will be too metallic if at all. Plus Mikael likes obscure 70's prog.


Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 21:42
^I wouldn't doubt seeing that at all, in fact it seems very likely.  I even wonder if it will be a mostly, if not completely, instumental project.

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Posted By: rudess87
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 04:23
Fu$$$ng awesome ... I didn't take it seriously when I first heard it!

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Posted By: bemarcelek
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 04:44
Hmmm, we'll just wait and listen (most definitely). Hopefully it doesn't sound like anything they've done previously. Clap


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 04:47
Porcupeth LOL


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 05:04
Originally posted by Synchestra Synchestra wrote:

I, like probably every prog fan my age, am very excited Big smile


I'm 28 years older than you, and I'm rather excited too

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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 11:02
It's interesting to hear it's not going to be progressive metal since that's what Akerfeldt and Wilson are both primarily into right now.

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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: June 05 2010 at 14:16
Love these guys but am I the only one who thinks this may not live up to the hype? 

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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: June 05 2010 at 14:34
eh... I'm not hyping or expecting to hear something conventional because I know how easily their output could differ from what I'm thinking it will sound like.  Basically, I'm not going to dwell on what I think it should sound like but rather take it for what it is when they finally release the album.

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Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 02:54
This is definitely an instant buy for me. I'm looking forward to this. Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 03:04
Being a fan of all three of these guys bands, this is an automatic buy for me, of course. Can't wait to hear it! What will it be called? AWP? WAP? PAW? 

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 03:19
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Porcupeth LOL

Porcupetheater (more likely) Smile


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 04:08
^ Portnoy's not confirmed, so I'll stick with Porcupeth for the moment LOL


Posted By: Collapsus
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 15:39
A collaboration between Wilson and Akerfeldt isn't surprising and will be very great. However, I doubt that Portnoy will be involved because Steven Wilson never seemed to appreciate Dream Theater's music.


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 15:48
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Porcupeth LOL

Porcupetheater (more likely) Smile


Why not WAP?
Or even PAW?


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 16:27
Originally posted by Collapsus Collapsus wrote:

A collaboration between Wilson and Akerfeldt isn't surprising and will be very great. However, I doubt that Portnoy will be involved because Steven Wilson never seemed to appreciate Dream Theater's music.
 
In a way, I think I'd prefer that. Tongue Just not sure how Portnoy would fit in with the supposed "very experimental" nature of the project. I just think if it will be experimental there are better drummers for the job.
 
Though it would be interesting to see how he'd adapt to it. And either way, this does look and sound exciting.


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 16:30
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by Collapsus Collapsus wrote:

A collaboration between Wilson and Akerfeldt isn't surprising and will be very great. However, I doubt that Portnoy will be involved because Steven Wilson never seemed to appreciate Dream Theater's music.
 
In a way, I think I'd prefer that. Tongue Just not sure how Portnoy would fit in with the supposed "very experimental" nature of the project. I just think if it will be experimental there are better drummers for the job.
 
Though it would be interesting to see how he'd adapt to it. And either way, this does look and sound exciting.
 
I agree with all that.


Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 20:00
Originally posted by Collapsus Collapsus wrote:

A collaboration between Wilson and Akerfeldt isn't surprising and will be very great. However, I doubt that Portnoy will be involved because Steven Wilson never seemed to appreciate Dream Theater's music.


He isn't into their music but from what I have heard he gets along fine the DT boys and I wouldn't be surprised to see Portnoy on board.


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Posted By: MAVIII
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 22:50
Forgive me,
Dont want to start a "lets bash Portnoy again" thread but, from many interviews I've seen of Portnoy,
he IS into the same musics as Wilson and Akerfeldt and is an Audiophile as well.
(I get the feeling Wilson isn't into DT's music either, but we may be wrong . . .)

And I think Portnoys drumming in DT, Transatlantic, Neal Morse, OSI and now Avenged Sevenfold
are very diversive/distinct from each other. Especially OSI, even though they may have been
"tweaked" by Kevin Moore, I see no reason why Portnoy wouldnt like to expand his repertoire and
tackle new territory Big smile.
OSI "Memory Daydreams Lapses":


Making of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBjX7XxDcWI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBjX7XxDcWI

And . . . he's done Tributes to (Live and Studio) The Who, Rush, Iron maiden, Metallica, The Beatles
and Led Zeppelin. I've noticed he does his best to emulate each Drummer. 
Note: I did not mention Liquid Tension Experiment, and John Arch because he plays a similar style
as DT.  "Redoux" on DT bonus tracks/etc., he adds his flavour to them as well.

Maybe Portnoy is doing what Wilson wished he had done, keeping his mouth shut Wink.
If with or without Portnoy, I am very much looking forward to it, AND Akerfeldt's "Acoustic" Album!

By the way, for those not familiar: Listen to OSI's "Blood" album and the Track "Stockholm" with
Akerfeldt on vocals and Porky Trees "Gavin Harrison" on Drums (Gavin plays entire album).
Gives you a taste in the unexpected Smile.



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Posted By: MAVIII
Date Posted: June 07 2010 at 23:24
Ha!

Had to add this Big smile . . .
Portnoy and Akerfeldt from the Progressive Nation Tour.  "Lets talk Music" Wink


Funny Akerfeldt mentions Scott Walker, and I just did a Parody of the "30 Century
Man" Album Cover for a Rock/Alternative Band "The Jigsaw Seen".  A song they
re-did for an episode of Futurama.

Very low-key interviews, like friends just hangin' out, pretty cool Smile.


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Posted By: Treasure
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 00:40
Originally posted by npoczynek npoczynek wrote:

Whether or not Portnoy is involved, I'm happy to hear that the Akerfeldt/Wilson combination is definitely happening. Off the top of my head I can't think of any other upcoming project I'm more excited about.


OH THANK GOD. I swear to god, I hope they don't let him ruin this project with his overly meticulous drumming.


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Posted By: zxc
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 13:29
Quote "[It's going to be] very dark, very twisted, very experimental.

"It's still rock music, but we're trying to do something really, really special and really different with this."


That sounds delicious, I'm really looking forward to this!


Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 17:19
I'm excited about this.
Isn't it going to be called PAW? (Portnoy, Akerfeldt, Wilson)


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 17:33
Originally posted by MAVIII MAVIII wrote:

Ha!

Had to add this Big smile . . .
Portnoy and Akerfeldt from the Progressive Nation Tour.  "Lets talk Music" Wink


Funny Akerfeldt mentions Scott Walker, and I just did a Parody of the "30 Century
Man" Album Cover for a Rock/Alternative Band "The Jigsaw Seen".  A song they
re-did for an episode of Futurama.

Very low-key interviews, like friends just hangin' out, pretty cool Smile.


Nice dialogue, thanks Smile


Posted By: squire4001
Date Posted: June 11 2010 at 17:42
Wilson + Akerfeldt + (and maybe Portnoy) = A guaranteed buy!LOL

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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: June 13 2010 at 07:04
Originally posted by MAVIII MAVIII wrote:


(I get the feeling Wilson isn't into DT's music either, but we may be wrong . . .)

He's actually literally said that he's not into DT.

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Posted By: Lars
Date Posted: July 05 2010 at 02:07
I sure hope Portnoy isn't involved. He's just one more in the line of boring, so-called "progressive" drummers.


Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: July 05 2010 at 03:29
Originally posted by Lars Lars wrote:

I sure hope Portnoy isn't involved. He's just one more in the line of boring, so-called "progressive" drummers.
Hmm, who would you suggest otherwise then?


Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 09:16
Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

Originally posted by MAVIII MAVIII wrote:


(I get the feeling Wilson isn't into DT's music either, but we may be wrong . . .)

He's actually literally said that he's not into DT.


Wilson has worked with Jordan Rudess, though.


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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 12:36
Now, a jazzy Wilson/Akerfeldt/Rudess/Carey collaboration would be incredible.


Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 13:12
Originally posted by Anderson III Anderson III wrote:

Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

Originally posted by MAVIII MAVIII wrote:


(I get the feeling Wilson isn't into DT's music either, but we may be wrong . . .)

He's actually literally said that he's not into DT.


Wilson has worked with Jordan Rudess, though.

Oh, he's friends with all the DT guys, no doubt. But you can be honest enough with your friends to say that you're not into their main musical project. In fact, I would venture to guess that some of the guys in DT may not really dig Wilson's style, either. Mike does I'm sure, because Mike likes pretty much anything. Not sure about the other guys, though.


Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 15:50
So I'm assuming Akerfeldt on guitar, Swilson on keys and Portnoy on drums. So who's playing bass? This is important.

I guess it could also be Mikael on bass and Swilson on guitar. But Akerfeldt is clearly the better guitarist. And I certainly wouldn't want to hear Swilson on the bass.

I nominate Jonas Renske. He was great in Bloodbath.

Edit: Also, I really hope it's Mikael on lead vocals, and Swilson on backing vocals, and not the other way around.

Also, they should get Dan Swano involved somehow.


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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 16:28
Tony Levin on bass
S. Wilson on rhythm guitar, keyboards, electronics
Mikael on vocals and lead guitar
Portnoy on drums

There.


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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 17:24
Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Originally posted by Anderson III Anderson III wrote:

Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

Originally posted by MAVIII MAVIII wrote:


(I get the feeling Wilson isn't into DT's music either, but we may be wrong . . .)

He's actually literally said that he's not into DT.


Wilson has worked with Jordan Rudess, though.

Oh, he's friends with all the DT guys, no doubt. But you can be honest enough with your friends to say that you're not into their main musical project. In fact, I would venture to guess that some of the guys in DT may not really dig Wilson's style, either. Mike does I'm sure, because Mike likes pretty much anything. Not sure about the other guys, though.

IIRC Portnoy and Rudess are fans of PT. Don't know about the other guys.


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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 19:48
Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

Tony Levin on bass

There.

Tony Levin? Yeah I like him as much as the next guy but such a predictable choice.

If we're going with a stick player I'd rather see someone like Trey Gunn. One of the best stick players and probably needs the work more.


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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 20:03
Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

Tony Levin on bass

There.

Tony Levin? Yeah I like him as much as the next guy but such a predictable choice.

If we're going with a stick player I'd rather see someone like Trey Gunn. One of the best stick players and probably needs the work more.

 LOL I guess you're right, Trey does need the work.  Tony's always busy doing something these days, and I'm not sure if S. Wilson has worked with Trey recently or ever, but I know he has with with Tony.


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Posted By: Westsiyeed
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 20:51
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Love these guys but am I the only one who thinks this may not live up to the hype? 
 
Yes!


Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 21:00
Originally posted by Westsiyeed Westsiyeed wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Love these guys but am I the only one who thinks this may not live up to the hype? 
 
Yes!

No, it will be great, I"m willing it to be so. WinkLOL

But seriously I have high expectations.


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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 22:01
They can do NO wrong!  Tongue

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Posted By: Westsiyeed
Date Posted: August 04 2010 at 23:03
I guess we don't want to overhype it too much, and there probably is a bit of pressure on the group, but with the quality of the output from Wilson and Akerfeldt lately, it is pretty much guaranteed to at least be interesting.


Posted By: Dean Watson
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 05:44
Akerfeldt and Wilson?  YES!
Akerfeldt and Portnoy?  Maybe
Akerfeldt, Wilson and Portnoy?  I don't think so.
 
This sounds like a one time money grabber.  Portnoy does not fit in with these guys.
 
Just my 2c.


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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: August 05 2010 at 09:58
Originally posted by Dean Watson Dean Watson wrote:

Akerfeldt and Wilson?  YES!
Akerfeldt and Portnoy?  Maybe
Akerfeldt, Wilson and Portnoy?  I don't think so.
 
This sounds like a one time money grabber.  Portnoy does not fit in with these guys.
 
Just my 2c.

I honestly don't even see Portnoy being involved in this, what with being with Avenged Sevenfold now.Confused


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