Fasting strategies for healthy waist management
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Topic: Fasting strategies for healthy waist management
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Subject: Fasting strategies for healthy waist management
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 03:44
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Since the poll choice inputs don't allow for much explanatory text, here's some further info on some of the approaches: Leangains: Obviously it depends on more factors than the "feeding window" - otherwise you could simply skip breakfast and then stuff yourself with junk food. You can go to Leangains.com and read more about the whole approach, but fasting 16h each day is the cornerstone. The Warrior diet: It actually suggests to snack throughout the day (low calorie, healthy food like fruits and small amounts of nuts) and then to eat a large, but not necessarily huge meal in the evening. The Alternate Day Diet: It doesn't suggest to do a 100% fasting day every other day ... instead it recommends to eat about 20% of your normal caloric intake on such a fasting day, and to distribute that into 3 "meals". Now ... if you vote, I'd love to read your comments about whether you tried some of these approaches, and whether they helped in your weight loss efforts in a sustainable way (e.g. not just for a few weeks or months). Please also note that all the approaches that I listed should be sustainable - there's no reason why one shouldn't continue to eat this way even if there's no weight to be lost. Of course you can skip some of the fasts then, and add them back in whenever you feel that you're gaining again. Personally, I currently like the Leangains approach best, because it's really easy to comply with, and so far (about 3 weeks into it) I've been getting good results and feeling great. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 06:25
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Hey, how about the Man vs. Food diet? http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Man_V_Food - http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Man_V_Food  And if you want to lose your appetite for purposes of fasting, Andrew Zimmern: http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Bizarre_Foods - http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Bizarre_Foods ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 15:09
| Well, Mr.ProgFreak, you seem to have created several threads about food, diets and all. You seem to be a bit... worried about that subject... Any reason, mmmm...? |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 16:15
no fasting, eat 3 meals a day AND move your body (I run half an hour to one hour 3 times a week, next week will try every day (including during my trip in Amsterdam : best way to discover the whole city  ))------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 16:27
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No fasting, eat two good meals a day plus a smaller one and snack something healthy every few hours to keep the stomach working and making your metabolism smoother; Also, of course, MOVE. ------------- 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 18:41
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1. Eat food. 2. Monitor weight. 3. If weight is undesirably high... 4. Eat less food. Hot damn I'm a genius. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 20:04
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- Eat early
- Eat often
- Learn to have a faster metabolism -------------  Time always wins. |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 20:06
yeah you really are a genius. that's the best thing since sliced bread. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
stonebeard wrote:Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 20:49
Which is coincidentally something you'll probably have to eat less of if you're following my awesome plan. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 21:05
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Back in college, I used to hit the gym for 40 minutes a day and rigorously record every single calorie I consumed. I lost about 40 lbs after four months. What I did was zap anything that contributed unnecessarily to the calorie count (sugary drinks, candy). If I had to snack, a piece of fruit/bread/cheese was enough. I'd avoid huge meals as well. My girlfriend called it austere and boring, but I preferred that to being fat. Man, I miss college, its cheap gym facilities and being 142 lbs... |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 21:05
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No fasting, if you're eating too much, eat less and create a new baseline. Drastically cutting your caloric intake temporarily does nothing. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 01:05
Slicing bread just doesn't cut it.  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 10:08
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I will rival the proven genius Stonebeard with my own recipe. 1. Eat food and do at least 45 minutes of physical training a day (for example walking instead of driving) Eat less does not work for everyone. It can make you depressed and you may do something you may regret. Kicking your partner out of the house for example or wiping out your local village in rage. People, like myself, only loose weight through cycling, golf or walking. I am back from a 130 km/8 hours long round-trip on my bike in the local mountains so I should know. That's some grammes with gained muscles and probably a kilo or two off my surplus weight.
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Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 10:32
What if it's sliced this thin?
Anyways, I agree with Stonebeard's plan. |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 13:39
"Interested" would be a better word ... or even "fascinated". It amazes me that there are so many conflicting points of view about such basic human activities as eating and exercising. 65% of all adults in the US are overweight, most of them eat at least three meals a day and take care not to eat too much fat ... yet I'm getting weird looks when I propose things like eating less carbs, or to occasionally skip a meal, or to spend a day without food. Can't I be glad that I am losing fat and gaining muscle, and isn't it ok to try to help others to achieve the same results? I know that many overweight people don't care about their body, but some do - some try to lose weight and fail, and to some of them threads like this one might be helpful. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 13:43
When you eat less, your metabolism slows down. The purpose of intermittent fasting is to trick the body into thinking that it's not being starved. And it has been confirmed by studies that fasting periods of up to 24-36 hours have no impact on metabolism if you eat properly between the fasts. I've tried "simply" eating less for a few months last year ... didn't work for me. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 13:52
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Here's some more info on the alternating day diet (alias "feast or famine diet"): http://www.marksdailyapple.com/feast-or-famine-diet/ - http://www.marksdailyapple.com/feast-or-famine-diet/ "Researchers at the University of Illinois Chicago designed an alternate day regimen that restricted food on “famine” days to 25% of estimated energy needs. Sixteen obese participants went through a 10-week program: a 2-week control period, 4-week alternating day 25%/”controlled intake” period, and 4-week alternating day 25%/”self-selected intake” (albeit with diet counseling) period. The results? (Can you guess, http://www.marksdailyapple.com/how-to-intermittent-fasting/ - IF ers?) Subjects lost weight consistently in both 4 week periods and showed improvement in http://www.marksdailyapple.com/blood-test-markers/ - key blood markers (total http://www.marksdailyapple.com/cholesterol/ - cholesterol , LDL, triglycerides and systolic http://www.marksdailyapple.com/salt-blood-pressure/ - blood pressure )." And also this: "Dr. William Davis of the Heart Scan Blog, a blogroll friend of mine, did a great sequence a few weeks ago on http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/grazing-is-for-cattle.html - grazing, fasting and postprandial patterns . As he emphasizes, the postprandial (aka “after eating”) period is the most damaging for artery plaque buildup. In our society, we’re encouraged to be starting the next meal before the previous one has even been fully absorbed. Our systems rarely, if ever, have the chance to return to zero. Fasting allows for that resetting." ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 01:29
I'm just about to end a 36 hours fast ... and I feel great! Yesterday all I ate was three protein shakes, which together amount to about 300 calories. Today I'll eat normally (I'll even have some form of breakfast  ), and tomorrow I'll fast again. So far I don't experience any drop in energy or "sluggishness" - rather the reverse.If you're overweight and you swear by having 3-6 meals a day ... I encourage you to read more about fasting (for example the alternate day diet book) before you dismiss it as being unhealthy! ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 11:35
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Your crusades tend to lose steam after a while good Mike... -------------
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 12:43
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I don't understand why you would perceive a thread like this one as a crusade by me ... when other people start threads, discussions are sparked. I realize that this is a music forum, and back in the good old days I would mainly start topics about music and most of them sparked discussions. What I really don't understand is that with the current health crisis, people are not only not interested in discussing how to fix it, but it almost seems to me like most think that they know what to do - no matter whether they're overweight or obese. An album title comes to mind: Crisis? What Crisis? I can live with my thread being ignored - you can't force people to care about their health. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: June 06 2010 at 06:04
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I in fact picked the "No fasting at all - eat 6 meals a day!" option, not as a joke either. I quite literally do eat 6 meals a day, a meal every 3 hours or so. And yet I'm not unhealthy at all, in fact quite the opposite, "How?" some may ask? Well it's pretty much as simple as hitting the weights 3 times a day, and then doing some cardio. Of course if you're not doing a weight training regime like me, eating that much is not necessary, in fact it's actually quite detrimental to one's health I'd imagine. Yes, I do eat a lot, but it's not ridiculous junk food. I eat very carefully and eat in a way that's conducive to building muscle mass. I'm sick of people who make excuses for not exercising. "I DON'T HAVE TIME!". Blargh, in my experience most of the people that say that often end up in front of the TV for hours just wasting away or just playing games on their gaming console or some crap like that. I could easily do that too if I wanted too, but I'm simply just not a lazy, excuse making slob, so I don't. Find a reason to do something, not an excuse not too. Obviously, weights aren't for everyone, well at least not in the way I'm doing it. You can train for endurance, or for strength or in my case but in my case I'm training for muscle mass (although that obviously does bring about usable gains in strength too, which is also what I want). But just find a workout suitable for you and then get stuck into it and you'll feel 100000 times better, seriously. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: June 06 2010 at 10:15
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You may be in a totally different situation than me though ... back when I was your age, I was rather skinny and thought that everything was as simple as working out and not eating too much. Now, 15 years later, a few months ago I found myself in a situation where that simply did not work anymore. Believe it or not, but for various reasons - some of which I have mentioned in my thread about low-carb - your metabolism can change in a way that leads to weight (or rather: fat) gain even though you're working out and not eating too much. BTW: I'm not saying that you can't lose weight at 6 meals a day, or that it's not healthy. I'm merely saying that some people might find it hard to lose weight that way, or might find it much easier when they throw in the occasional fasting day. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |