I'd have to go with DG here.

 

Numb or Kashmir ?

 

Mmmmm... Hard call for me but Gilmour gets the vote.

 

Both brilliant in their own style and legends.

 

Page is a good guitarist, however most of his solos never stuck in me.

 

Thanks.

 

And yes, that is pretty much my thoughts on this. It also annoys me when people say Gilmour can't play fast. Just because he doesn't play fast doesn't mean he can't.

 

 

Shred guitar or shredding refers to lead /wiki/Electric_guitar - electric guitar playing that relies heavily on fast /wiki/Guitar_solos - guitar solos .

 

 

 

Fine, I'll edit it and make myself more clear.

 

Yes me too.

Alright, alright.  David Gilmour.

and gilmour gets more emotion from that one note than page does in a whole song

Plus, this is a prog site. We tend to like Gilmour more by default. 

 

Hmm, can you drop another hint? Since that doesn't apply to either.

 

Page didn't steal riffs, Plant stole lyrics (something every blues singer did), sheesh.

 

Yes I'm aware that Moby Dick sounds like that Bobby Parker song as well as a hundred other rock songs in existance, lets not confuse lifting with stealing as that's something essentially every blues based rock band did all the time, including Pink Floyd.

 

The only other "stolen" riff I can think of is the fast middle part of Lemon Song that was clearly taken from Howlin Wolf's Killing Floor. But he took that riff and made it... awesomer.

 

You're arguing like little kids.

 

They are both cliches that work, and to be fair, these cliches weren't really cliches until these players popularized them.

 

It's really stupid I think to say "this guitarist is better because he plays with more emotion", like how would you even know that? What's the criteria for playing with emotion? How do you know emotion is being put into it? By the funny faces the player makes live? Or by the method of playing?

 

What Gilmour does is a very calculated technique, you don't have to play with emotion to do what Gilmour does and while Gilmour is one of my favorite players, the idea that he plays with more emotion than everyone else is a myth.

 

Page plays fast and loose and with aggression and spontaneity and if anything he seems to put more emotion into what he does than Gilmour, and in fact every punk guitarist ever seems to invest more emotion into what he does than Gilmour. Gilmour is just an amazing technician, he's good enough to manipulate you emotionally with a solo that he probably wrote in 30 seconds while in the john. Not to mention how he recreates all his solos live without any variation. The man is like a computer.

 

But I don't care, I'm not gonna judge music by how much emotion I THINK was put into it, because I don't really know, I listen to music for music. Weither any passion was put into it or not, good music is good music. If someone can do a good job of pretending to play with passion, then that's good enough. Musicians are performers, not poets.

 

I can't choose a favorite but they're both way up there. These two have nothing in common other than playing for the two biggest bands of the 70s. You can only choose by preference, you can't prove that one is better than the other.

 

Though if I had a nickel for everytime some shredhead douche tried to prove that Steve Vai was better than everyone else I would be pretty wealthy.

 

Could u guyz stop ur making me upset

 

(What a boring cliche )

 

 

I only meant to say that he uses an age old technique to make a song sound emotional, it's a kind of musical special effect if you will. Nothing wrong with that either. Music is an inherently manipulative form of art. I don't care how sincere the musician is, and I have no way of knowing. All that should matter is the quality of the music itself.

 

Maybe not as technical performers but they are as composers and arrangers. Page's greatest talent is his producing. And Gilmour's is his abillity to make every note work.

 

Page is the sloppy one but that's part of his appeal.

I vote Jimmy, but I do love Dave as well.

 

You call that a long solo?

 

I dont think CN is his best work but I do love those solos and the huge contrast in mood between the two. I remember some stupid list from Pitchfork (indie elitists unite) included CN as one of the worst guitar solos of all time and cited Gilmour's use of studio splicing as the reason. How stupid is that?

 

So what if Gilmour wasnt a wild improviser? From Meddle and onwards Floyd had always been about what they could do in the studio, not what they could do live. They were a studio band. And seriously, Gilmour made CN from a bunch of random licks he recorded, but it's not like he had any trouble reproducing it live, not at all. Talk about a ridiculous reason to call such a great solo one of the worst. But Pitchfork has always been a bunch of pretentious t**ts.

 

 

 

Terrible survey ... and one that really distorts things a lot.

 

Jimmy deserves a lot more credit for his work than a lot of guitarists out there, specially when you consider that he is a TRUE musician and does KNOW music very well ... and you can see this in the film "It's Gonna Get Loud" ... and in case you didn't see it ... check this out ... you know who the man up on him was?  And guess who brought this guitarist into the Yardbirds?

 

G Gomelsky ... who went on to do Aphrodite's Child, Gentle Giant and so many others and is one of the massive fathers of Progressive Music and we should start a ... Hall of Fame for it!

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_Gomelsky - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_Gomelsky

 

David Gilmour, in creativity and expression is not in my book as important as Jimmy is to the history of rock music with Led Zeppelin. Pink Floyd deserves its name in there, of course, but as a band, not as any single member.

 

It was Jimmy that helped open the way with a few other folks, and David is second generation by comparison and to me not even as good as Mr. Gurley in Big Brother and the Holding Company, who pretty much is the father of the blowout guitar bomb! And if you dont sit through Ball and Chain ... you don't like a guitar having a duet with a voice!

 

 Obscured by Clouds is my favorite Floyd album, and that song is superb!

 I used to love it too. But I'm 51 now, and for me it has a lot less to offer than it used to. On hindsight, I think I may have been kidding myself because my roommate had Meddle, and I was jealous and didn't want him to have a better album than me.   I truly did not mean to offend anyone. I really thought it was a good example of what I was saying. I am glad you are loving it! When you are 51, if you don't love it anymore, then put flowers on my grave. But if you do, well then, I guess you'll just have to piss on it! 

 

 You didn't offend me, it's ok.

 

BTW: my dad, who is 53, still loves Obscured by Clouds

There are so many outstanding guitarists from the 60's and 70's like Johnny Winter, Mike Bloomfield, Peter Green etc, and I rarely hear mention of their levels or I should say their true capabilities. Paul Kossoff from Free was a bit like Gilmour and Page combining a style of both and being from that British Blues Boom era, I consider him special.

 

My personal observation of Page is the fact that he played various Les Paul lines.....and long extensive technical lines which Page adapted to the writing style of Zep. Page also tutored Jeff Beck and Beck played many of Les Paul's lines as well. On the technical side, Page was a little monster , playing notes starting at the 14th or 12th fret through a passage that led down to the 1st fret and back up again. He was really crazy!

David Gilmour plays some beautiful slide on Meddle. He is an atmospheric kind of player adding blues styles from the Mississippi Delta but, adapting it to that Space Rock Pink Floyd sound. He opens up a lot of chords ....having that B and E1st string open while producing a melodic atmosphere. His leads were always clean and inspiring.

But to compare Page and Gilmour to each other?.......I don't know but, it doesn't feel logical and the quarter placed in the vending machine does not work. Maybe Page and Beck would be more interesting to me?
During improv soloing from both on electric guitar........Dave Gilmour applies more string bending and while playing notes in a more slower fashion then Page, produces a unique sound and style. Page is sometimes all over the place producing the same effect as Gilmour at a fast pace.  The irony of course is the fact that Gilmour stated many timnes how he felt strange replacing Syd Barrett and how he felt uncomfortable even when Pink Floyd toured as a 5 piece.    But yet....it is David Gilmour who produces the most splendid versions of Syd Barrett's songs.......Astronomy Domine from Pulse...or his performance on DVD of "Dominoes".....Roger Waters doesn't seem to touch this material but, Gilmour gives it a re-birth with his beautiful guitar playing and his melodic singing voice to boot! 

 

I vote Gilmore seeing i listen to Floyd more than Zep

I've never really liked Page's style, he makes A LOT of mistakes.