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Topic: Help with a drum track.
Posted By: Dorsalia
Subject: Help with a drum track.
Date Posted: May 23 2010 at 19:07
Hi, I'm not a drummer but I'm programming the drums for a song I'm writing. But not being a drummer, I don't know how hard the part actually is to play, and a friend who is a drummer said he couldn't play it. As I'm not a drummer and this is the first time I've sat down to create an extended drum part, I'd like to receive some feedback.

I'd say the song and style are very influenced by bands like Nevermore, Vintersorg (Asgeir Mickelson) and Opeth, in a kind of progressive-metally style.

This is the link with the track:

It was programmed on Guitar Pro 5, so forgive the midi sound.

Thanks a lot in advance. Your feedback would help me in this drum programming quest.

Cheers.  : )

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"Es ist übrigens unmöglich, eine Meinung zu haben, ohne dass es unerfreuliche Überschneidungen gibt. Die Grünen sind für den deutschen Wald, die NPD ebenfalls."




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Posted By: mono
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 04:18
The only non-human parts are the ultra-fast double bast or tom hitting (which are not that necessary in my opinion). Maybe also some very fast ride playing, but that's less "inhumane".
The rest should humanly possible, but good luck finding a drummer this skilled.


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https://soundcloud.com/why-music Prog trio, from ambiant to violence
https://soundcloud.com/m0n0-film Film music and production projects
https://soundcloud.com/fadisaliba (almost) everything else


Posted By: Dorsalia
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 12:16
Originally posted by mono mono wrote:

The only non-human parts are the ultra-fast double bast or tom hitting (which are not that necessary in my opinion). Maybe also some very fast ride playing, but that's less "inhumane".
The rest should humanly possible, but good luck finding a drummer this skilled.



Yeah, maybe some double bass parts are excessive. But the drums do fit in really well with the music. I guess I'll have to adapt them as soon as I start working with an actual drummer. The thing is, sometimes it's hard finding musicians with a certain level of proficiency here. I'm used to listening to drummers like Marco Minnemann, Gene Hoglan, Richard Christy, Asgeir Mickelson, Virgil Donati, etc. So that's what I want to hear in my drum parts. Well, I also wish I had Warrel Dane to sing my vocal parts, but I guess that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Anyways, thanks for your feedback. Cheers.


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"Es ist übrigens unmöglich, eine Meinung zu haben, ohne dass es unerfreuliche Überschneidungen gibt. Die Grünen sind für den deutschen Wald, die NPD ebenfalls."



Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 12:31
Wow, I'm really digging this. Makes me want to hear the rest of the instruments that go along with it!




Posted By: Dorsalia
Date Posted: May 25 2010 at 14:28
Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Wow, I'm really digging this. Makes me want to hear the rest of the instruments that go along with it!





This is what I'm working on. It's very busy and over-the-top. Sorry about the midi sound, I hope to record it in a not too distant future. I need musicians though.






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"Es ist übrigens unmöglich, eine Meinung zu haben, ohne dass es unerfreuliche Überschneidungen gibt. Die Grünen sind für den deutschen Wald, die NPD ebenfalls."



Posted By: TheCrimsonIdol
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 06:52
You should get the programme "EZ Drummer" and the expansion pack "Drumkit From Hell!".
There what I use when i'm recording songs.
 
You need some sort of programme to run it on, such as Cakewalks Sonar or Sonys Acid Pro, then you can put all the different drums together and make tracks, or you can simply drag preset beats and use them, they are very, very realistic, alhtough they cost a bit.... Maybe there is a way past that.Wink


Posted By: Dorsalia
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 10:00
Yeah, but I'm not really trying to create music on the computer. They're just blueprints. And I think that, actually, midi doesn't sound too bad. xD

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"Es ist übrigens unmöglich, eine Meinung zu haben, ohne dass es unerfreuliche Überschneidungen gibt. Die Grünen sind für den deutschen Wald, die NPD ebenfalls."



Posted By: Dorsalia
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 10:03
I mean, I want to be able to record these drums with an actual drummer. If not today, then whenever I find him or her or it (who knows where science fiction will take us), if it means waiting 20 years.

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"Es ist übrigens unmöglich, eine Meinung zu haben, ohne dass es unerfreuliche Überschneidungen gibt. Die Grünen sind für den deutschen Wald, die NPD ebenfalls."



Posted By: mono
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 11:24
Originally posted by Dorsalia Dorsalia wrote:

I mean, I want to be able to record these drums with an actual drummer. If not today, then whenever I find him or her or it (who knows where science fiction will take us), if it means waiting 20 years.


If you want to afford being that optimistic, you have to search extremely actively!
I found mine (drummer) and I'm keeping him!
(As a last resort, you can come to Paris, I'll introduce you :) )


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https://soundcloud.com/why-music Prog trio, from ambiant to violence
https://soundcloud.com/m0n0-film Film music and production projects
https://soundcloud.com/fadisaliba (almost) everything else


Posted By: Dorsalia
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 11:21
Originally posted by mono mono wrote:

Originally posted by Dorsalia Dorsalia wrote:

I mean, I want to be able to record these drums with an actual drummer. If not today, then whenever I find him or her or it (who knows where science fiction will take us), if it means waiting 20 years.


If you want to afford being that optimistic, you have to search extremely actively!
I found mine (drummer) and I'm keeping him!
(As a last resort, you can come to Paris, I'll introduce you :) )


I'm not in a hurry Wink. Right now putting bread on the table and finishing my degree take up just about all my time. Making music will have to remain fitfully in the background for the moment.

And thanks for the invitation, I'm thinking about studying French someday. Smile


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"Es ist übrigens unmöglich, eine Meinung zu haben, ohne dass es unerfreuliche Überschneidungen gibt. Die Grünen sind für den deutschen Wald, die NPD ebenfalls."



Posted By: elder08
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 13:46
Originally posted by Dorsalia Dorsalia wrote:

Hi, I'm not a drummer but I'm programming the drums for a song I'm writing. But not being a drummer, I don't know how hard the part actually is to play, and a friend who is a drummer said he couldn't play it. As I'm not a drummer and this is the first time I've sat down to create an extended drum part, I'd like to receive some feedback.

I'd say the song and style are very influenced by bands like Nevermore, Vintersorg (Asgeir Mickelson) and Opeth, in a kind of progressive-metally style.

This is the link with the track:

It was programmed on Guitar Pro 5, so forgive the midi sound.

Thanks a lot in advance. Your feedback would help me in this drum programming quest.

Cheers.  : )
Ha I am a drummer and most of the time if I play something technical then everybody thinks its boring so dont think really fast( I understand how this implements skill but sometimes it makes you look like a cave man lol) do some steday rythms and add so good fills after you get the base down

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