Most influentual Norwegian giant
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Topic: Most influentual Norwegian giant
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: Most influentual Norwegian giant
Date Posted: May 07 2010 at 14:47
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well im bored and out of ideas for any prog polls so I made this, since it is not long for oure 17th of May celebration, celebrating our constitution. and it just amazes me that a developing country as Norway was in the 19th century managed to give birth to three very influential people in each of their own section of art one is the godfather of modern drama, one is the first expersionalistic painter and one of the first mordern classical music composers. but whom do you think is most influential as induividual in their field Ibsen in theater and film Grieg in contemporary music /rock/prog or anything Munch art, -------------  
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 07 2010 at 14:54
I think they are all hugely influential, but I'll pick Munch because he's the most relevant for me as an art historian/critic. Great artist. I'll see an exhibition of his works these days in Paris 
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Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: May 07 2010 at 15:17
| It is impossible to put them up against each others. But I still support this poll....... by voting for all tree equally important. Although I cannot understand why trees comes into play here. Then again; why is that woodpecker hovering over my head ? |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 07 2010 at 15:26
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Grieg's my favorite. I had this piece of his that I had heard of when I was a little kid and was stuck in my head. Never knew the composer or the title. A college professor actually played it in a history class before I found out what it was.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 09:58
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come to life you -------------
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 10:32
Phew, I expected Dimmu Borgir.  Voted for Munch. |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 10:33
This. Tis a masterpiece of art. ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 10:54
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Funny result so far, as this poll shouldn't be answered in a purely subjective manner. Grieg influenced some proggers to record horrible versions of In the Hall of the Mountain King (joke). His kind of romantic nationalism was happening all over Europe at the time, and he wasn't the first to come up with anything. Grieg is about as influential as... say Glück or Scriabin. Nothing wrong with that. Munch the most important one for me personally, and together with Van Gogh he more or less defined the look of expressionism. Ibsen is one of a handful of greats playwrights almost as influental as Shakespeare. So Ibsen it is. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 12:05
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When I was at school, none of these three greats was taught in lessons. One of the teachers I had in a private marketing college in Oslo was pretty angry at this and made it a point of giving us the basics/f.a.q's on all three greats. She said they would pop up in conversations when we went abroad and it may even be crucial when negotiating business deals. She was right. I have found these F.A.Q sheets on Grieg, Munch and Ibsen very useful indeed. Not to mention interesting and revealing. I have also clinched deals on the basics of my knowledge about Henrik Ibsen. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 12:41
^ good for you  or to impress ladys (to play some Morning mood while eating dinner on a summer evning.
this year it is a 100th anniversety to another semi-gigantic writer and nobel -prize winner (with the coolest name) Bjoernstjearne Bjoernson, (have not read anny of he's books, but I have sang the national anthem he wrote manny times), but he was an important writer, politician, activist, wrote realy biteing letters to everyone (even to the most powerfull men in Europe), he was on the verge to become agnostic or athesist but that in the 1860s-80s was not right at that time. -------------
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Posted By: June
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 16:10
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Grieg, I think... When I read the title, for some reason I thought it had to do with http://io9.com/5625010/norways-massive-troll-cover+up-exposed - Troll Hunter |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 16:13
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^ that looks promising though i have not heard about that, cool a troll-movie. -------------
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 21:57
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bump -------------
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 22:03
i bought that moovie like yesterday, but I have not seen it yet -------------
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June wrote:Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 23:10
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In the Hall of the Mountain Kings -------------  Time always wins. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 08:19
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Not from the list I would say Niels Abel, the Norwegian mathematician responsible for group theory and showing that polynomials greater than degree four have no general solution in radicals. From the list I think Grieg is most important. I mean, where would a bugs bunny episode have been without his music? ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 09:04
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Went with Munch. He had a very powerful and strangely attractive way of painting that really speaks to me. What I have heard of Grieg is very good, but I have always found Ibsen a bit too melodramatic however brilliant he might be as a writer. Not from the list and the one I really wanted to vote for is Bjørn Dæhlie. Just saw you wrote most influential to their respectable genres, sorry  Might have to change my vote to Ibsen then...
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 09:11
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Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 10:17
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Who are these people and why are they in a poll when the majestic Ihsahm is not?
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 11:21
I might have voted for Munch but you can't eat his paintings.  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 13:00
| What about Amund and Ellef Ringnes? |
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 13:48
Oh boy, abstract algebra  ------------- Time always wins. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 15:04
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I couldn't choose because they are all from differing disciplines and are equally important in their own field.
Norway has produced an impressive list of explorers ... there must be a strong urge to be somewhere else in the Norwegian psyche (he says looking at Torodd  ) ... Leif Ericson (discoved Greenland and America), Roald Amundsen (first man to the South Pole), Jens Munk (North-West Passage), Thor Heyerdahl (Kon Tiki and Ra expeditions) ...------------- What? |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 16:17
It was Leig Ericsons father Erik Raude who discovered Greenland , and I think Amundsen was the captain of the ship who that saild the North-Westpassage, -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 18:25
Ah, you have the home advantage over me.  My memory failed me - I thought Leif's dad Eric discovered Iceland and Leif discovered Greenland, obviously wrong, however Leif explored much of Greenland and discovered America. Yes, Amundsen was more successful in the search for the North-west Passage - Munk's three expiditions failed, but he was 400 years before Amundsen and would have probably been more successful if steel ships had been around in the 17th century .------------- What? |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 18:34
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Amundsen died some years later trying to find an American or British polar expedition that had gone missing which ended up with Amundsen also went gone, his body was never found, (or the ship), and now its imposible to find remains from the faild rescue which coused Amundsen to lose his life..
also trivia the authour Roald Dahl is named after the explorer Roald Amundsen -------------
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 19:04
| Varg Vikernes |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 19:05
Vidkun Quisling 
Knut Hamsun -------------
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 19:07
| The only one I know is Ibsen, so since I really can't vote in this poll I have to go with Varg |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 19:17
WAAAAHT
 so you say you have not seen this painting
 or heard these compositions
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 19:20
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tisk! kids today eh? what do they know? ------------- What? |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 19:24
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their is so many great music on the Peer Gynt Suit
so prog
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 19:24
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I wonder if this section of "In the Hall of the Mountain King" wasn't used in the Smurfs? I remember that this cartoon used some sections of Mussorgsky's "Pictures at an Exhibition", but I'm not sure about Grieg. |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 19:26
They know how to spell "today" though...
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 19:30
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 19:31
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a tribute to the great Danish/Norwegian playwright Ludwig Holberg
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 19:38
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I have of course seen it (The Scream), but never knew who painted it. And I do know In the Hall of the Mountain King but, (much to my sadness) I know little of classical music. Only the big pieces by big names. |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 19:39
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 19:43
im no expert myself but I will recomend Griegs Arabian Dances such a fun song, and to think of a norseman, use arabic tonals and modes in early 1900 in a classical piece in such a narural way, like he was born to do the task
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: April 02 2011 at 00:19
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Very interesting how much Ibsen is underappreciated, but his drama "Et Dukkehjem" ("A Doll's House") alone was more important for the 20th century than the works of the rest together (and I am fully aware of the importance of "The Scream"). I am talking about the immediate impact here; "A Doll's House" was a milestone for the feminist movement. Many people wonder why James Joyce fell for Nora Barnacle, because she was a rather plain woman. But Joyce was fascinated by Ibsen; maybe he even fell for Nora Barnacle because of her name. The name of the leading female character in "A Doll's House" is Nora. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 05:42
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Music is my favourite art form and I love Grieg's music so he wins my vote. -------------  
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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: April 12 2011 at 09:51
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I think Friede is right, though Grieg probably had some influence on impressionistic music (Debussy denied it but that doesn’t prove anything). I would say that Munch (my personal favourite of the three) was more influential than Grieg, and Ibsen more influential than Munch again.
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