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Topic: Manics - The Holy Bible
Posted By: Logos
Subject: Manics - The Holy Bible
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 08:46
I truly think that Manic Street Preachers' The Holy Bible is one of the greatest albums of all time. It's so dark and hopeless I just can't stop listening to it. The fact that the lyricist Richey James killed himself shortly after the release of this album is enough evidence that the lyrics are indeed for real. And the music is just wonderful; rock/pop music at it's best, a hint of punk in there too, I guess.

What do you think ?




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Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 08:55
crap.  liked it at the time, but that was 10 or so years ago.  nothing new in that record IMO.  they should've gone the way of Richey and jumped off the severn bridge.

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"...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine."


Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 14:29
My all-time favorite album.  The music on its own may not really be anything original, but that album is all about Richey James' seriously disturbing lyrics, which the music compliments pefrectly.  He was a genius, and it's really a shame that his life had to end the way it did.  I've never gotten into any of the Manics' other work though.


Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 17:53

Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

I truly think that Manic Street Preachers' The Holy Bible is one of the greatest albums of all time. It's so dark and hopeless I just can't stop listening to it. The fact that the lyricist Richey James killed himself shortly after the release of this album is enough evidence that the lyrics are indeed for real. And the music is just wonderful; rock/pop music at it's best, a hint of punk in there too, I guess.

What do you think ?

Has that been confirmed? Last time I checked he was still deemed just missing, not dead.



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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun


Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 02:07
Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

I truly think that Manic Street Preachers' The Holy Bible is one of the greatest albums of all time. It's so dark and hopeless I just can't stop listening to it. The fact that the lyricist Richey James killed himself shortly after the release of this album is enough evidence that the lyrics are indeed for real. And the music is just wonderful; rock/pop music at it's best, a hint of punk in there too, I guess.

What do you think ?

Has that been confirmed? Last time I checked he was still deemed just missing, not dead.



Nobody's seen him since 1994.  His car was found abandonned on a bridge infamous for suicides.  He wrote the lyrics to The Holy Bible.  I'd say the evidence is pointing towards him having commited suicide (although no body has been found).


Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 11:05
he did NOT kill himself, he is just missing. He has been reported to have been seen abroad. They found a body in the severn not long ago that they thought was his but wasnt. So dont go saying he killed himself. I live right by the river severn.

ever since he left the band have kept a quarter of their riches in case he ever returns.

The holy bible is indeed one of the greatest albums of all time, so much more daring and original than any of their other stuff, the lyrics are about everything that is wrong with the world wrapped up with the controversal title! One of the most controversal albums ever made.

the song "if white america told the truth for one day its world would fall apart" was apparently changed to untitled on american radio, thus probably summing up that the state in the original title is probably correct!

my favourite song on the album is "yes" and the lyrics in the chorus are brilliant, it has a pop feel to it yet the lyrics are

"in these plagued streets of pity you can buy anything
for $200 anyone can concieve a god on video
he's a boy, you want a girl so cut off his cock
tie his hair in bunches, f**k him, call him rita if you want"

Astonishing album, the lyrics work so well and the way the music is made to fit them.

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The Worthless Recluse


Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 11:42

Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

he did NOT kill himself, he is just missing. He has been reported to have been seen abroad. They found a body in the severn not long ago that they thought was his but wasnt. So dont go saying he killed himself.

This is what I heard, too. It's good there is still hope, however tiny.



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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun


Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 15:04
Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

he did NOT kill himself, he is just missing. He has been reported to have been seen abroad. They found a body in the severn not long ago that they thought was his but wasnt. So dont go saying he killed himself.


Okay, his death hasn't been confirmed, but don't say you really believe that he has been seen abroad or something? Come on, face the facts.

Him being alive is probably as likely as Elvis being alive.


Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 15:14

Originally posted by Logos<BR><BR>Okay, his death hasn't been confirmed, but don't say you really believe that he has been seen abroad or something? Come on, face the facts. <BR><BR>Him being alive is probably as likely as Elvis being alive.[/QUOTE Logos

Okay, his death hasn't been confirmed, but don't say you really believe that he has been seen abroad or something? Come on, face the facts.

Him being alive is probably as likely as Elvis being alive.[/QUOTE wrote:


I think you're right on this.  The guy was a self-abusing ("4REAL"), manically depressed individual, to think that he is living the high life in Spain or wherever he is supposed to be is taking it to the extreme.

I think you're right on this.  The guy was a self-abusing ("4REAL"), manically depressed individual, to think that he is living the high life in Spain or wherever he is supposed to be is taking it to the extreme.

I think the manics could've been a great band with him around.



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"...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine."


Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 18:04
Originally posted by spectral spectral wrote:

I think the manics could've been a great band with him around.



could have been? they are one of the best bands out there! The scene of their type of music love em and consider em one of the best.

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The Worthless Recluse


Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 18:06
Their last few albums are sub-standard though.  I also find that they are too same-y these days as well.  But if you like them, coolio!

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"...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine."


Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 21:08
Originally posted by spectral spectral wrote:

Their last few albums are sub-standard though.  I also find that they are too same-y these days as well.  But if you like them, coolio!


i agree there. The new album is terrible. The ones before are average. Everything Must Go is the only amazing album since richey james departure.

But when they play live they are top notch. I think they still have it... they just aren't using it.

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The Worthless Recluse


Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 11:09

Manic Street Preachers are one of few bands around today that have anything new to say; indeed 'Motorcycle Emptiness' is one of the greatest punk/indie tracks ever made in any era.

However, they have sacrificed their earlier style as shown in albums like 'Holy Bible' and 'Generation Terrorists' for a more overblown approach that really does them no favours, in my opinion.




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