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Topic: Everything EverythingPosted By: The Hemulen
Subject: Everything Everything
Date Posted: April 24 2010 at 10:09
Thought these chaps deserved a bit more exposure round these parts. They're perhaps a tad too poppy for t'archives (we'll see how their first album turns out, shall we?) but their music is nothing short of brilliant. Dense, complex and insanely catchy. I can't stop listening to them, and this song in particular:
Replies: Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 24 2010 at 10:50
I think they left something out somehow. Interesting.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: April 27 2010 at 13:28
More than a tad too poppy.
I'm not sure what that song means, but I can't help but feel that song lyrics about Photoshop and extra lives are a bad omen for the direction of our civilization.
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: April 28 2010 at 07:53
Henry Plainview wrote:
More than a tad too poppy.
I'm not sure what that song means, but I can't help but feel that song lyrics about Photoshop and extra lives are a bad omen for the direction of our civilization.
I think it's fair to say those lyrics are being delivered with a fair amount of cynicism. "I have skin like a waxen peel/and a face that I can never feel" and the like doesn't exactly sound celebratory, does it?
And yeah, I'm not surprised you found them too poppy, Henry; free jazz, they ain't. Nonetheless, I reckon there's a lot for a prog fan to enjoy in their music, especially if you're into twiddly, fussy song arrangements a la Gentle Giant.
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 28 2010 at 08:14
Splendid stuff - never heard of them before, but may have to keep an eye open in future - cheers TP
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: April 29 2010 at 09:00
New single:
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: April 29 2010 at 22:13
Trouserpress wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
More than a tad too poppy.
I'm not sure what that song means, but I can't help but feel that song lyrics about Photoshop and extra lives are a bad omen for the direction of our civilization.
I think it's fair to say those lyrics are being delivered with a fair amount of cynicism. "I have skin like a waxen peel/and a face that I can never feel" and the like doesn't exactly sound celebratory, does it?
And yeah, I'm not surprised you found them too poppy, Henry; free jazz, they ain't. Nonetheless, I reckon there's a lot for a prog fan to enjoy in their music, especially if you're into twiddly, fussy song arrangements a la Gentle Giant.
The point is not that they're celebratory, but that we've entered an age where Photoshop is a metaphor. But hey, isn't that a copyrighted word? Did they get permission?
My point wasn't that I found them too poppy (and therefore they suck), I was just saying that I think they're way too poppy for PA. But that doesn't mean somebody on PA won't like them!
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 11:01
Henry Plainview wrote:
The point is not that they're celebratory, but that we've entered an age where Photoshop is a metaphor. But hey, isn't that a copyrighted word? Did they get permission?
So why is that "a bad omen for the direction of our civilization"? As for needing permission... surely not? It's just a brand name. if they were being explicitly libellous they might have some trouble, but I can't see Adobe getting too worked up about the word being used in this kind of context. Besides, Photoshop has gone beyond brand status now; it's a verb, like "hoover" (or to use a more US-friendly example, Xerox).
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 09:25
I don't care if I'm the only person posting in this thread, but this band is phenomenal. I've not heard http://vimeo.com/2380078 - this track before, but it is just pure prog. I cannot flippin' wait for their album!
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 10:46
Thanks a lot, Trouserpress, that link was great ...the other links didn't work ...problem with the browser. Didn't like the way the middle guy screamed but I can live with that. This was pretty Gentle Giant-like indeed.
EDIT: Couldn't get the first track to work but heard the second one. Great stuff, thanks again, Trouserpress, well spotted. Freakin' haven't been blown away by a current prog act this way , I am with you in looking forward to their album...got to go check out any info on them on the net.
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 11:02
great stuff i can hear of what i have heard of Sparks that it is similar to that very catchy but stil splendid
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 11 2010 at 13:36
Thought I'd give this thread a bump with some new info. The new single's out on Monday (can't wait to hear the B-side - the band have good form with them) and the album is apparently entitled "Man Alive" and will be out on August 23rd. I think I might burst from waiting.
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 24 2010 at 14:43
I just have to share this BBC session performance of Schoolin'. There are a few extra vocals and other flourishes tucked away in here which are missing from the studio version. I do love a band that continually hones and tweaks their songs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p008hxk2 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p008hxk2 (apologies to non-UK members if you can't access this content).
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 20 2010 at 07:00
This is out on the 30th and has already had reviewers gushing with praise and scratching their heads trying to describe the sounds. I reckon this is gonna be a hard album to top this year. Despite the shiny pop exterior, this band is seriously making some of the most genuinely progressive music I've heard in years.
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: August 21 2010 at 12:12
I hear you, I haven't been excited about a new band this way, I mean I heard Radiohead's OK Computer in 2006, too late!
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 14:52
The album's currently available to stream in full on their http://www.myspace.com/everythingeverythinguk - myspace page . I can honestly say there isn't a weak track on it. This album is just... words fail me. Rarely have I heard music recorded in my lifetime that's so foward-thinking, all-encompassing, cerebral, emotionally charged and diverse. Under that skin of accessible melodies and poppy hooks there's complex arrangements Gentle Giant would be proud of and soaring anthems which feel like symph prog epics squeezed into five minute songs. I just cannot overstate how brilliant this album is, however much of a gushing loon it makes me seem. I urge every single open-minded reader of this forum to set aside an hour of their day and embrace one of the most breathtakingly creative new bands to emerge from this country.
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 23:07
Why is his voice so annoying? I listen to lots of things that makes everybody leave the room, and it's great, but he's a corkscrew into my brain. I still managed to make it through half the album while PAing, but the music sounds too much like indie rock.
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 23:21
Henry Plainview wrote:
Why is his voice so annoying? I listen to lots of things that makes everybody leave the room, and it's great, but he's a corkscrew into my brain. I still managed to make it through half the album while PAing, but the music sounds too much like indie rock.
Wow that is annoying. Not that I have anything against annoying music. (Rats and monkeys crowd the city as it crumbles into.... RUUUIIINS) But this is not my style. Thanks for sharing anyway though.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 23:25
All post 1970 music is fail. The only good music was made before 1970, after that it's just a bunch of talentless rubbish.
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 23:43
Wow, I actually listened to the whole album, I guess I'm a masochist. Or I was entranced by how uniquely annoying it was.
Trouserpress wrote:
The album's currently available to stream in full on their http://www.myspace.com/everythingeverythinguk - myspace page . I can honestly say there isn't a weak track on it. This album is just... words fail me. Rarely have I heard music recorded in my lifetime that's so foward-thinking, all-encompassing, cerebral, emotionally charged and diverse. Under that skin of accessible melodies and poppy hooks there's complex arrangements Gentle Giant would be proud of and soaring anthems which feel like symph prog epics squeezed into five minute songs. I just cannot overstate how brilliant this album is, however much of a gushing loon it makes me seem. I urge every single open-minded reader of this forum to set aside an hour of their day and embrace one of the most breathtakingly creative new bands to emerge from this country.
Also, I think it's hilarious that you love this band so much that you probably had an erection while you wrote that, but you think the Paper Chase's singer is too annoying. :P
JJLehto wrote:
All post 1970 music is fail. The only good music was made before 1970, after that it's just a bunch of talentless rubbish.
This joke really isn't funny anymore. And Walter actually already made that post in this thread and it got deleted.
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 23:56
It was not intended to be funny. I am perfectly serious.
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 27 2010 at 00:36
Nice new energy
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 27 2010 at 09:50
Henry Plainview wrote:
Also, I think it's hilarious that you love this band so much that you probably had an erection while you wrote that, but you think the Paper Chase's singer is too annoying. :P
Yep, I had to change my trousers after hitting "post". Paper Chase is fine in small doses but that whiny american indie voice does tend to grate after a while. Could be an accent thing. One of the things I like about EE's vocals are the complete absence of faux-american accents which blights a lot of our homegrown indie.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 27 2010 at 09:52
Henry Plainview wrote:
I still managed to make it through half the album while PAing, but the music sounds too much like indie rock.
But IT IS indie-rock
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: August 28 2010 at 09:09
Listening to the album on myspace, remember now what made me so excited earlier. I repeat, I have never been so excited by a new band this way. I still don't want to believe this is for real, this can't be happening, where the heck did these guys come from! The vocals are quite terrible, but I am too blown away by the arrangements to care. If there's a Gentle Giant in the 21st century, Everything Everything is IT. In saying so, I am fully aware of the guffaws this statement is going to attract in several quarters. I don't care, I am sticking my neck out on this. So...what do you do, Trouserpress, and where could I meet you? Just jk.
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 01:45
rogerthat wrote:
If there's a Gentle Giant in the 21st century, Everything Everything is IT. In saying so, I am fully aware of the guffaws this statement is going to attract in several quarters.
Bang on the money. I think the major difference is that GG, though they obviously encompassed a hugely diverse range of sounds, were normally rooted in blues like the majority of popular music at the time. EE take a similar approach but their sound is often rooted in hip-hop, which is way out of the comfort zone for a lot of people on this board. I think that might be one of the reasons they're not catching on round these parts.
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 01:49
Trouserpress wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
If there's a Gentle Giant in the 21st century, Everything Everything is IT. In saying so, I am fully aware of the guffaws this statement is going to attract in several quarters.
Bang on the money. I think the major difference is that GG, though they obviously encompassed a hugely diverse range of sounds, were normally rooted in blues like the majority of popular music at the time. EE take a similar approach but their sound is often rooted in hip-hop, which is way out of the comfort zone for a lot of people on this board. I think that might be one of the reasons they're not catching on round these parts.
Yeah, GG were a lot more 'rock' than this band. I have been saying it for sometime that new, amazing progressive music will not come from rock as we know it because that's a stagnant and saturated form. There's some way for Everything Everything to go before they can have their Acquiring the Taste or Free Hand but this is already an incredible debut and, dare I say it, better than the self titled debut of Gentle Giant.
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 01:50
Trouserpress wrote:
Yep, I had to change my trousers after hitting "post". Paper Chase is fine in small doses but that whiny american indie voice does tend to grate after a while. Could be an accent thing. One of the things I like about EE's vocals are the complete absence of faux-american accents which blights a lot of our homegrown indie.
But his voice is so whiny too! Maybe it's the accent plus the falsetto, although I'm generally not a fan of falsetto in any circumstances. I'm curious now, what UK indie bands fake American accents? I only know about popular UK music when it intersects with the US.
Trouserpress wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
If there's a Gentle Giant in the 21st century, Everything Everything is IT. In saying so, I am fully aware of the guffaws this statement is going to attract in several quarters.
Bang on the money. I think the major difference is that GG, though they obviously encompassed a hugely diverse range of sounds, were normally rooted in blues like the majority of popular music at the time. EE take a similar approach but their sound is often rooted in hip-hop, which is way out of the comfort zone for a lot of people on this board. I think that might be one of the reasons they're not catching on round these parts.
I don't remember any hip hop at all? I listened to the whole album, am I insane?
harmonium.ro wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
I still managed to make it through half the album while PAing, but the music sounds too much like indie rock.
But IT IS indie-rock
But I don't want it to be indie rock!
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 02:30
Henry Plainview wrote:
But his voice is so whiny too! Maybe it's the
accent plus the falsetto, although I'm generally not a fan of falsetto
in any circumstances. I'm curious now, what UK indie bands fake American
accents? I only know about popular UK music when it intersects with the
US.
I can't really give you an indie example as I'm no expert on the UK indie scene, I just latch on to anything interesting which comes my way. There's always been a tendency for British vocalists of any genre to adopt an American accent when singing. Cynics attribute this to a desire to be more palatable/marketable in the states, but it's just as likely to be down to our ears becoming accustomed to American musical imports (especially of mainstream music) leading to aspiring musicians subconsciously imitating the sounds they've grown up with. Mind you, this is all just idle speculation. All I can say with any degree of certainty is that I like EE's vocals, though I can also understand how they'd drive other people up the wall.
Henry Plainview wrote:
don't remember any hip hop at all? I listened to the whole album, am I insane?
It's not always blatant but the influence is assuredly there. Take another listen to Schoolin'.
Henry Plainview wrote:
But I don't want it to be indie rock!
My mother always used to say to me "'I want' doesn't get". Mind you, 'indie rock' is a far from useful term for EE's music. So far they've eluded categorisation to the point that their album is apparently listed as 'unclassifiable' on iTunes. I doubt they could be paid a higher compliment than that.
rogerthat wrote:
Yeah, GG were a lot more 'rock' than this band. I
have been saying it for sometime that new, amazing progressive music
will not come from rock as we know it because that's a stagnant and
saturated form. There's some way for Everything Everything to go before
they can have their Acquiring the Taste or Free Hand but this is
already an incredible debut and, dare I say it, better than the self
titled debut of Gentle Giant.
I think you're right about the level of stagnation in rock now. It comes to something when even avant-progressive bands seem to be imitating old bands... There's nothing wrong with keeping old musical traditions alive but that's what they are now. If you're looking for genuinely new sounds, you've got to start looking beyond rock.
I hope EE do keep it together long enough to put out several albums as I feel certain they've got a lot of development still to do. This isn't a perfect debut, but it gets closer to perfection than most, and certainly closer than GG's debut managed, in my opinion (and this is coming from a die-hard GG fanatic). It has that 'first album' quality of "here's all the best songs we have at the moment arranged in what we hope is a satisfying order". Their next album will hopefully have a greater sense of cohesion.
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 02:44
Trouserpress wrote:
I think you're right about the level of stagnation in rock now. It comes to something when even avant-progressive bands seem to be imitating old bands... There's nothing wrong with keeping old musical traditions alive but that's what they are now. If you're looking for genuinely new sounds, you've got to start looking beyond rock.
Funny, just this week I heard Coyote. It is a good album but I am afraid I did not find it the new sliced bread of the prog world. I know I am absolutely inviting an aside from Henry Plainview by saying this, but whatever. This album, quite frankly, is more like it.
Trouserpress wrote:
It has that 'first album' quality of "here's all the best songs we have at the moment arranged in what we hope is a satisfying order". Their next album will hopefully have a greater sense of cohesion.
Yes, there is a sense of checking out a lot of things to find their voice. It is a good quality in a first album because it shows they haven't closed their options yet. The next effort will hopefully show more maturity in terms of a consistent style.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 08:07
Henry Plainview wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
I still managed to make it through half the album while PAing, but the music sounds too much like indie rock.
But IT IS indie-rock
But I don't want it to be indie rock!
Well stop, then.
Posted By: caretaker
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 10:00
I heard one of these songs on our local college station but didn't know who it was. Good stuff. I hear a lot of potential.
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 01 2010 at 16:14
Trouserpress wrote:
I can't really give you an indie example as I'm no expert on the UK indie scene, I just latch on to anything interesting which comes my way. There's always been a tendency for British vocalists of any genre to adopt an American accent when singing. Cynics attribute this to a desire to be more palatable/marketable in the states, but it's just as likely to be down to our ears becoming accustomed to American musical imports (especially of mainstream music) leading to aspiring musicians subconsciously imitating the sounds they've grown up with.
Wel I guess now that I think about it, even Radiohead doesn't sound very British, and I guess what sounds like unaccented English to me sounds more like an American accent to you.
It's not always blatant but the influence is assuredly there. Take another listen to Schoolin'.
I guess a little bit, but I don't think that's enough for people to care, unlike, say, Janelle Monae. I would guess the reason this thread hasn't gotten a more enthusiastic reception is that most people here really don't care about modern indie. And the ones who did and were squeeing about Merriweather Post Pavillion last year aren't around anymore.
My mother always used to say to me "'I want' doesn't get". Mind you, 'indie rock' is a far from useful term for EE's music. So far they've eluded categorisation to the point that their album is apparently listed as 'unclassifiable' on iTunes. I doubt they could be paid a higher compliment than that.
Psh, all kinds of crap gets "Unclassifiable" on iTunes, you shouldn't pay much attention to their genre descriptions. :P
rogerthat wrote:
Funny, just this week I heard Coyote. It is a good album but I am afraid I did not find it the new sliced bread of the prog world. I know I am absolutely inviting an aside from Henry Plainview by saying this, but whatever. This album, quite frankly, is more like it.
Do you really think I am so one-dimensional? ;-) :( I haven't even heard Cayote yet, my current musical interests are more extreme. I can't really get mad about somebody just finding something "good" when I'm ambivalent about so much of the famous music around here. The Magma fanboys are the ones who have the need to make everybody like things. :P
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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: September 01 2010 at 17:54
Suffragette Suffragette
Sounds like a hybrid of King Crimson, the Police, Ben Folds Five, and Iron Maiden, to me.
Not really 'prog' rock, but listenable. Did'nt like the white boiler-suits....looks a bit 'Devo'.
Did I hear the lyrics correctly .....??
'Who's gonna sit on your face when I'm gone'.......??
------------- "...the thing IS, to put a motor in yourself..."
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 11:29
Just thought I'd mention that Everything Everything are playing their album Man Alive in full with the aid of a small orchestra tonight. The concert will be streamed live http://livemusic.tid.es:8080/LMVideo/pc/live" rel="nofollow - here . Should be good.
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 11:49
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 14:04
Snow Dog wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Sounds XTCish and therefore good!
Vocals did not annoy me.
Yeah, there's a definite whiff of XTC about them at times. Will you be watching their concert tonight? It promises to be quite a special event...
Where watching?
I bumped this thread specifically to post the link, but clearly nobody noticed, so here it is again: http://livemusic.tid.es:8080/LMVideo/pc/live" rel="nofollow - http://livemusic.tid.es:8080/LMVideo/pc/live
They're playing the whole album, complete with special orchestral arrangements. Starts in about an hour. I'm rather excited.
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 14:09
Trouserpress wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Sounds XTCish and therefore good!
Vocals did not annoy me.
Yeah, there's a definite whiff of XTC about them at times. Will you be watching their concert tonight? It promises to be quite a special event...
Where watching?
I bumped this thread specifically to post the link, but clearly nobody noticed, so here it is again: http://livemusic.tid.es:8080/LMVideo/pc/live" rel="nofollow - http://livemusic.tid.es:8080/LMVideo/pc/live
They're playing the whole album, complete with special orchestral arrangements. Starts in about an hour. I'm rather excited.
Sorry missed that bit. I suggest you change your thread title temporarily to advertise it.
Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 14:21
This is very coldplay-esque. i was Intrigued after the first song or so then i think i 'got it' and it wore of pretty quick. not bad though. sounds like they're trying which is good, they're just not groundbreaking. Solid bit-pop.
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