What do you like most about prog music.
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Topic: What do you like most about prog music.
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Subject: What do you like most about prog music.
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 16:28
The reason i started to listen to prog music was because i thought iron maiden was so great and steve harris was a great composer so i had to wonder what inspired him to write such great music. Then i discovered the great groups like King Crimson, Nektar, Yes, Genesis and ofcourse King Crimson and Rush. Now the reason i thought this was so great was that it sounded completly new, that it could mix diffrent genres of music and really cool timechanges that could swithc between the most absurd rhytms! I love almost all genres of music so therebefore i just think its great that you can witness the incredible moments when some strange genres are fusioned and it actually works! I just love the epic songs with great and intelligent lyrics that is not all baby baby i love you yeah yeah. I think to many pop songs are to similar and that the progressive music brought some fresh air back into music for my part...Anyways what is it that keeps you listening to prog music? The intelligent lyrics? the timechangs, the epics, genre mixing, all of these or something else?
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 17:02
the meeting of classical and rock music (with good lyrics)
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Posted By: Zell87
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 17:10
The musical virtuosity of the bands, the odd time signitures, the
continuous shifting of musical themes possible in just one song!
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Posted By: jojim
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 17:17
It's the classical postulate not to repeat a time signature more than 2
times. Symphonic music uses a pattern only one time. Then it changes
the key, the pitch or the instruments. And this is what hitparade songs
don't do. The are repeating all the time.
Leonard Bernstein explained the once the meaning of symphonic music.
And i guess he was right. It is music that develops over the time line.
This is the measure of quality in the first place. But there are other
criterias too. Taste, feeling, text etc.
It's pretty complex.
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 17:19
The challenge, the thrill, the theatricality.
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Posted By: KeyserSoze
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 17:24
...and I add the complexity and the elaboration...
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 17:35
The feeling you get when you hear something new and anything could happen.......not knowing from hearing the beginning how it will end.......and later discovering new things about a piece after repeated listenings.
Its not just that, but thats part of it.
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 17:55
I liked how good all the musicians were at their instruments (for the most part), but also how they expanded musical ideas and didn't feel limited to a certain song length. But definately how complex and intricate their compositions can be.
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Posted By: Lyzarrd
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 18:14
I LOVE how with each playing, with each mood, with each passing
day, you can be taken on a brand new musical journey. All I have to do
is put on a great pair of headphones, turn of the lights, relax and let
the music take me to someplace else. Its magical, its spiritual, its
complex, its distinct, its my life.
Not to mention the pure playing ability of each member. The virtuosity
of someone like Steve Howe, the in your face bass of Chris Squire, the
beautiful notes of Steve Hackett, the wonderful drum stylings of Bill
Bruford, and so on. This is prog.....
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Posted By: kingofbizzare
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 19:05
I like how each song is usually different from everything else and not
just a photocopy of every other band of the times like modern pop and
the fact that you usually can't tell what a song sounds like from the
first 30 seconds.
And the fact that the musicians are actually talented and worthy to be
called 'musicians' instead of just 'guitar player' or 'bass player' and
so on.
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 20:04
maidenrulez wrote:
The reason i started to listen to prog music was because i thought iron maiden was so great and steve harris was a great composer so i had to wonder what inspired him to write such great music. Then i discovered the great groups like King Crimson, Nektar, Yes, Genesis and ofcourse King Crimson and Rush. Now the reason i thought this was so great was that it sounded completly new, that it could mix diffrent genres of music and really cool timechanges that could swithc between the most absurd rhytms! I love almost all genres of music so therebefore i just think its great that you can witness the incredible moments when some strange genres are fusioned and it actually works! I just love the epic songs with great and intelligent lyrics that is not all baby baby i love you yeah yeah. I think to many pop songs are to similar and that the progressive music brought some fresh air back into music for my part...Anyways what is it that keeps you listening to prog music? The intelligent lyrics? the timechangs, the epics, genre mixing, all of these or something else? |
All of the above, though it's probably the open-mindedness that appeals to me most. Now if more prog fans were just that open-minded...
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Posted By: alchemist
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 20:26
Prog music is great, I like it because of the technicallity and
abillity of the musicians to play and compose their own beautiful,
great and magical music. Also because it's complexity and constant time
changes.
The capacity these people have to mix other great genres without any
problem, is also wonderful. I can also mention that its great
because these musicians actually do put their talent to the maximum and
don't throw it away doing stupid music, just to sell and make money.
Guys like these are capable to do wonderful lyrics, extremly great
epics, and for them no limits exist, they are not intimidated by our
society to make stereotype music.
Prog music is a genre for people who want something new complex and
really artistically developed, taking back some of music's roots. PROG
MUSIC IS AWESOME
------------- no great genius has existed without a touch of madness...
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 20:27
The variations
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 20:31
The fact that most prog musicians can actually play an instrument well. The fact that composition actually means something. The fact that it makes you think, pay attention and understand.
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Posted By: Benighted
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 00:35
maidenrulez wrote:
Then i discovered the great groups like King Crimson, Nektar, Yes, Genesis and of course King Crimson and Rush. |
Well, bands like King Crimson are so good you can discover them twice.
But for me, the appeal is in the song structure. Or to be more specific, the melding of the classical mentality with a rock style. I enjoy longer songs, complex compositions, inventive motifs, and witty lyrics- all of which prog has to offer.
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 00:43
I like Progressive Rock because:
- The musicianship is top-notch. The intricacy of the songs, the complexity, it all creates an experience that can go anywhere.
- The intelligent and thoughtful lyrics, dealing with often philosophical themes.
- The theatricalness and the overall epic feel that progressive rock gives.
- It's damn fun to play on the guitar.
And finally:
- Because I don't have a short attention span.
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Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 00:59
The epic scale of a 20+ minute song, it absolutely blows me away. The
musical talent, the unpredictable time signatures, the escape it gives
you for the length of a cd, i love it. I remember when i was small i
heard a very long and complex song and i was blown away, but it wasnt
until recently that i found out what that music was.. and i'm glad i
did.
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 02:15
Tastes great/Less filler.....I also like the easy opening cans!
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Posted By: robertplantowns
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 02:36
I was always into rock and roll, and being a classical music/jazz fan
all my life, I always expected MORE out of rock and roll. After
listening to 4/4 rock for a while, it's easy to get tired of it, so
Prog Rock fused my love of all music and threw it together into one
beautiful jumble. It fulfills my need for complex, and interesting
music while maintaining the excitement that rock and rock provides so
well.
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Posted By: Yurkspb
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 03:15
What I like about prog:
1. Variety instruments - not just guitar, bass + drums, but much more
2. Relatively complex melodies and harmonies you can get pleasure from after many years of listening
3. High level of musicianship
4. Mixture of different styles
5. The sound
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Posted By: ferentix
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 03:44
The endless variation: one could, feasibly, listen to nothing but prog for their entire life and still listen to a huge range of totally different bands/soloists, from full on classical style compositions to folk, from new age to metal (some would disagree on that last one I know, but it's just an example). The fusion of so many different genres by each band is just awesome.
Also, the talent/skill of the musicians who play it, all with a totally unique style. Many of these musicians are classically trained, others have probably learned by a less expensive route, more still are self taught (e.g. Steve Howe or Vangelis) but in the end are unique and talented.
And of course, the variation within each song, and between songs by each band, both in terms of style, themes, time sigs and length.
Those are the best things about prog. PROG ROCKS
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 05:35
The musicianship.
The imaginative approach to songwriting
The fusion of different styles
Concept tracks/Albums!
The emotional honesty.
------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 05:39
musicianship, musical composition, attention to detail, variation.
it is unlike any other musical genre I know. with other types of music it is easy to get bored, you don't get that with prog.
------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine."
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 05:47
The fact that you can join a forum devoted to it and argue your head off.
------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 05:50
Manunkind wrote:
The fact that you can join a forum devoted to it and argue your head off. |
I'm sorry, but that is a rubbish argument.
------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine."
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 05:51
spectral wrote:
Manunkind wrote:
The fact that you can join a forum devoted to it and argue your head off. |
I'm sorry, but that is a rubbish argument.
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------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 05:56
------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine."
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 06:03
Good thread.
All that I have read so far echoes my feelings about the merits of prog music.
I agree that the fusion element of classical music and rock has given birth to
a genre that keeps on developing in interesting ways.
That brings me to one of the main reasons I like Progressive music and that's
the people who follow it. As long as there are musicians and fans out there who
are keen to keep faith, there will always be something new to share.
Sure, there will be disagreements on what is good and what is not but the very
fact that there are people around to do this mean that the genre remains a
vital one. As long as there is one musician willing to play progressive music
and one fan to listen and love it, prog will remain alive.
Plus, I like dressing up as Ganldalf.
------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 06:23
^^^^^
(for the Gandalf bit, of course)
------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Posted By: nacho
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 06:26
What do I love most about prog music?
The music!!!
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 06:28
nacho wrote:
What do I love most about prog music?
The music!!!
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Oh come on, surely you love the prog more?
------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 06:30
------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 06:34
sigod wrote:
Good thread.
All that I have read so far echoes my feelings about the merits of prog music. I agree that the fusion element of classical music and rock has given birth to a genre that keeps on developing in interesting ways.
That brings me to one of the main reasons I like Progressive music and that's the people who follow it. As long as there are musicians and fans out there who are keen to keep faith, there will always be something new to share. Sure, there will be disagreements on what is good and what is not but the very fact that there are people around to do this mean that the genre remains a vital one. As long as there is one musician willing to play progressive music and one fan to listen and love it, prog will remain alive.
Plus, I like dressing up as Ganldalf.
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I guess I'm just blessed with good 'prog' looks. No need to dress up. Me on way to alehouse. You should see me on way back
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 06:40
^^^
Ha! Just as I thought!!!
, great post, Blacksword
------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 06:43
Gollum looks remarkably like my mother-in-law!
------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine."
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 06:47
spectral wrote:
Gollum looks remarkably like my mother-in-law! |
"Invite him to dinner so that I can get to know him, my precioussss"
------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 06:49
Manunkind wrote:
spectral wrote:
Gollum looks remarkably like my mother-in-law! |
"Invite him to dinner so that I can get to know him, my precioussss"
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er, manunkind, you're not my mother-in-law are you???? shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!
------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine."
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 06:51
spectral wrote:
Manunkind wrote:
spectral wrote:
Gollum looks remarkably like my mother-in-law! |
"Invite him to dinner so that I can get to know him, my precioussss"
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er, manunkind, you're not my mother-in-law are you???? shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!
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------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 13:44
The emotion it generates. It makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 20:20
limeyrob wrote:
The emotion it generates. It makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up |
definitely!
that's why i look for clean guitars & fresh keyboards: mainly neo prog like clepsydra, jadis, IQ, collage and steve hackett of the late 70's.
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Posted By: nousommedusolei
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 01:41
The classical background, the self-discipline of the musicians, the structure and length of the songs, the artistic integrity, the beauty...
(sniff)
------------- I don't believe in demons
I don't believe in devils
I only believe in you
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Posted By: Aerandir
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 07:48
Zell87 wrote:
The musical virtuosity of the bands, the odd time signitures, the
continuous shifting of musical themes possible in just one song! |
+1
------------- That which doesn't kill you, postpones the inevitable
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