Somebody to Love
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Topic: Somebody to Love
Posted By: Epignosis
Subject: Somebody to Love
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 18:21
Prog-related vs Proto-prog...
Both bands released a song by this title, but which do you like better?
Apologies to admin, but the ability to create polls in the appropriate section is still unavailable.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 18:31
I like both songs ,but the Airplane has the edge over Queen. I just love Grace Slick's vocals on that one.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 18:33
you have to be kidding me...
like comparing a 67' GTO to a 76' f**king Pinto...
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 18:36
Voted Jefferson, they are great, and this particulat Queen song not my favorite.
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Infact the Kanter/Slick albums, Sunfighter & Baron von Tollbooth even better than the Jefferson's.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 18:38
I prefer the Queen song.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 18:39
tamijo wrote:
Voted Jefferson, they are great, and this particulat Queen song not my favorite.
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Infact the Kanter/Slick albums, Sunfighter & Baron von Tollbooth even better than the Jefferson's.
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not surprising... . J.A. wasn't a album orientated group... they were only the canvas that was painted upon live.. on stage.
listen to the version of Somebody to Love on Bless on It's Pointed Little Head.... hah... nothing like turning a song on it's ear... completely redid the song... only kept the lyrics ![LOL LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 18:44
micky wrote:
you have to be kidding me...
like comparing a 67' GTO to a 76' f**king Pinto...
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You mean it depends on which one's backseat you got laid in? ![Wink Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 18:44
These are two of my least favorite songs by two bands that I love. Actually, the Queen version would be much better if it were about 1:30 shorter. But the end drags out much too long. The JA song is my least favorite off of Pillow. I much prefer the other Slick vocal offering, as well as every other tune on Pillow. For the first 3 1/2 minutes, I'm going to have to go with the Queen version. Do like the gospel choir...just wish it ended sooner.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 18:47
Epignosis wrote:
micky wrote:
you have to be kidding me...
like comparing a 67' GTO to a 76' f**king Pinto...
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You mean it depends on which one's backseat you got laid in? ![Wink Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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close... which one do you use to GET laid... ![LOL LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 18:47
Voted for JA.
For what it's worth, Dwight Twilley also recorded yet another "Somebody To Love" on his Scuba Diver album. Very good song in its own right.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 18:51
Love both tracks, but Queen's track is more elaborate and Freddy is just brilliant, probably my favorite Queen's song.
Iván
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 19:09
Gotta go with the Airplane on this and Micky you are right on about the live thing. They were a tremendous live group. I really like the little jam they got into at the end on the studio. Didn't hear much of that on top 40 radio in 1967.
The Queen song leaves me a bit cold. Never did like it. Is it a show tune or a ballad? It couldn't make up its mind.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 19:23
Garion81 wrote:
Gotta go with the Airplane on this and Micky you are right on about the live thing. They were a tremendous live group. I really like the little jam they got into at the end on the studio. Didn't hear much of that on top 40 radio in 1967.
The Queen song leaves me a bit cold. Never did like it. Is it a show tune or a ballad? It couldn't make up its mind. |
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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 19:31
No contest at all. Queen all the way.
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 20:30
Gotta go with the J-Plane.
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 21:05
The Queen one!!
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 22:42
I've already noted my choice. For those on the fence, consider this.
I love me some Queen now and again. They've made some great songs, anthemic songs actually.
But Jack Casady had more pure hard-ass musical chops than anyone in Queen. His only peer, bass-playing-rocker-wise, of the era was our good man Mr. Entwhistle.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 22:55
Not even close. Queen blows Jefferson Airplane away every time. Every time.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 02:33
Jefferson Airplane wins this close finish.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 03:06
two great tunes in a songwriting tradition we don't see as much of now..
Queen for this, but I love the 'Plane
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 04:06
Raff wrote:
I like both songs ,but the Airplane has the edge over Queen. I just love Grace Slick's vocals on that one.
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This!
I love Slicks vocals, on many J. Airplane tunes.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 04:46
I recomend evvery one of you to check out the George Michale sung'ed version, George Michale makes a vocalistic standpoint after that preformance every other attempts to cover it will fale. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c7x2JD_j-0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c7x2JD_j-0
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 04:58
aginor wrote:
I recomend evvery one of you to check out the George Michale sung'ed version, George Michale makes a vocalistic standpoint after that preformance every other attempts to cover it will fale. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c7x2JD_j-0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c7x2JD_j-0
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George Michaels performance there is excellent! I wanted to go to that gig (Freddies tribute concert) but couldn't get tickets..
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 05:05
Posted By: Keltic
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 05:07
Not even a contest.
Jefferson Airplane's is far superior to Queen's droopy offering.
Besides, neither group fall under the banner PROGRESSIVE ROCK. ![Confused Confused](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
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Posted By: ko
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 12:17
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 12:27
Much prefer the Jefferson Airplane song and say what you like about the smug little hippy witch, but Grace Slick has lungs like sugar coated pistons.
I like a lot of Queen songs but not this critter. White folks make gospel sound stiffer than even hardcore polka music.
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 12:29
jammun wrote:
But Jack Casady had more pure hard-ass musical chops than anyone in Queen. His only peer, bass-playing-rocker-wise, of the era was our good man Mr. Entwhistle. |
False, Phil Lesh was right up there with Jack Casady, and couldn't be more closely related in music either. That list could heavily continue too. I am however a big Jack Casady fan. I leave you with this dominant Jack Casady bass solo, an in fact the entire jam is amazing. My favorite Airplane clip easily
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrTS7b028A8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrTS7b028A8
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 13:02
I'll take Queen's song over the Airplane's. Both good, but Queen gets the edge.
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 13:09
Very easy Jefferson Airplane by a quatum leap.![LOL LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 15:33
Jefferson Airplane. I sing Somebody To Love, a lot actually.
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 15:50
micky wrote:
Garion81 wrote:
Gotta go with the Airplane on this and Micky you are right on about the live thing. They were a tremendous live group. I really like the little jam they got into at the end on the studio. Didn't hear much of that on top 40 radio in 1967.
The Queen song leaves me a bit cold. Never did like it. Is it a show tune or a ballad? It couldn't make up its mind. |
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I think Jack said it best.... . '6 musicians.. in search of an arrangement'
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They did get a bit wild sometimes. ![LOL LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif) Sometimes it wasn't cohesive and they probably would be the first to admit it but when it all worked it was magic. I think Spencer Dryden was so underrated because he had to hold that thing together. I think it was the Volunteer's re-master release a few years ago and they put 5 live tracks from a show on that tour as bonus tracks. Jorma, Jack and Spencer are just so tight. Absolutely some of the best stuff they did from a show in NYC. Even better than the BLIPLH tracks IMHO. Plastic Fantastic Lover, Somebody to Love, Wooden Ships, Good Shepard and Volunteers.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 16:00
I'm going to surprise many here sonce JA's presence is my doing and they're ne of my fave bands....
BUT
I'm actually tired of their STL song (I much prefer White Rabbit) and I find that the song is a bit conve,ntional
Queen's version is simply awesome, especially in the choirs and vocals
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Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 16:56
Well, Queen's been my favourite band for almost 10 years, and it just so happens that STL is on my favourite Queen album. However.... for some reason, despite the superb gospe-like harmonies, the lovely guitar solo, Freddie singing his lungs out (this is also his favourite Queen song), it doesn't do too much for me. It breaks my heart to say this, but I'll go with Airplane on this one.
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 17:01
I always fly Jefferson Airways.
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Posted By: ProgBob
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 17:20
There was a brief period about 30 years ago when I was getting to know about rock music when I thought I liked Queen. After that I went right off them and haven't been able to stand them to this day.
On the other hand, the Airplane have been one of my favourites for almost as long, so this was an easy choice for me.
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 18:58
himtroy wrote:
jammun wrote:
But Jack Casady had more pure hard-ass musical chops than anyone in Queen. His only peer, bass-playing-rocker-wise, of the era was our good man Mr. Entwhistle. |
False, Phil Lesh was right up there with Jack Casady, and couldn't be more closely related in music either. That list could heavily continue too. I am however a big Jack Casady fan. I leave you with this dominant Jack Casady bass solo, an in fact the entire jam is amazing. My favorite Airplane clip easily
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrTS7b028A8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrTS7b028A8
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Thanks for the link to the video! Yep, maybe I was engaging in just a wee bit of hyperbole, but ol' Jack sure could drive that band.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 19:15
Can't stand the Airplane one. Love the Queen one.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 20:55
jammun wrote:
himtroy wrote:
jammun wrote:
But Jack Casady had more pure hard-ass musical chops than anyone in Queen. His only peer, bass-playing-rocker-wise, of the era was our good man Mr. Entwhistle. |
False, Phil Lesh was right up there with Jack Casady, and couldn't be more closely related in music either. That list could heavily continue too. I am however a big Jack Casady fan. I leave you with this dominant Jack Casady bass solo, an in fact the entire jam is amazing. My favorite Airplane clip easily
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrTS7b028A8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrTS7b028A8
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Thanks for the link to the video! Yep, maybe I was engaging in just a wee bit of hyperbole, but ol' Jack sure could drive that band. |
generally I'd agree with you... next to James Jamerson (and all the greats acknowledge they were 2nd fiddle to him)... Jack is generally considered to be the greatest bassist of the era that America could put against all those greats of that era out of England. It isn't purely skill... you could draw up a list of a 1000 more skilled bassists if one really wanted (if possible of course) What Casady was the melodic center of the group... much as the masters from England were.
it's like i often say...
who gives a sh*t what one technically can play... it's music.. not science.. it is about what one DOES (or does not) play that matters. (the McCartney axiom to bass playing greatness) In that... yes... I agree with you Jim... there was no 'rock' peer to Casady in that era.
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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 20:56
Another vote for Jefferson Airplane
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: April 02 2010 at 21:16
micky wrote:
jammun wrote:
himtroy wrote:
jammun wrote:
But Jack Casady had more pure hard-ass musical chops than anyone in Queen. His only peer, bass-playing-rocker-wise, of the era was our good man Mr. Entwhistle. |
False, Phil Lesh was right up there with Jack Casady, and couldn't be more closely related in music either. That list could heavily continue too. I am however a big Jack Casady fan. I leave you with this dominant Jack Casady bass solo, an in fact the entire jam is amazing. My favorite Airplane clip easily
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrTS7b028A8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrTS7b028A8
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Thanks for the link to the video! Yep, maybe I was engaging in just a wee bit of hyperbole, but ol' Jack sure could drive that band. |
generally I'd agree with you... next to James Jamerson (and all the greats acknowledge they were 2nd fiddle to him)... Jack is generally considered to be the greatest bassist of the era that America could put against all those greats of that era out of England. It isn't purely skill... you could draw up a list of a 1000 more skilled bassists if one really wanted (if possible of course) What Casady was the melodic center of the group... much as the masters from England were.
it's like i often say...
who gives a sh*t what one technically can play... it's music.. not science.. it is about what one DOES (or does not) play that matters. (the McCartney axiom to bass playing greatness) In that... yes... I agree with you Jim... there was no 'rock' peer to Casady in that era.
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That's what I'm trying to express, however ineptly. We know Jamerson just drove that Motown sound. We know Enwhistle drove The Who. And we know Casady drove the Airplane. There just existed such bassists in that era.
The finest bass player I had the good fortune to play with, way back when -- and this was a guy who (unlike the rest of us idiots in the band) knew a thing or two about Mingus -- considered Casady his touchstone.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 03 2010 at 00:23
Hi,
I would say that Jefferson Airplane's song qualifies as progressive and then some. And some of those bass lines are just about the rock school of progressive!
So many prog bands tend to show how much classical music influenced them, but the Germans used the psychedelic era in America more than anyone else. Very few of them fail to mention a lot of the San Francisco scene and Frank Zappa from further down the road. So much so that one time Grace Slick did a satire of the German thing in one album, and it is funny!
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Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: April 03 2010 at 00:44
when the truth is found, to be lies!
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Posted By: Xanthous
Date Posted: April 03 2010 at 10:11
I prefer Jefferson Airplane over Queen any day, so their version is easily my favorite
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Posted By: mohaveman
Date Posted: April 06 2010 at 16:55
Both great but AIrplane wins.
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Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: April 06 2010 at 17:02
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
I would say that Jefferson Airplane's song qualifies as progressive and then some. And some of those bass lines are just about the rock school of progressive!
So many prog bands tend to show how much classical music influenced them, but the Germans used the psychedelic era in America more than anyone else. Very few of them fail to mention a lot of the San Francisco scene and Frank Zappa from further down the road. So much so that one time Grace Slick did a satire of the German thing in one album, and it is funny!
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Would that "German thing" happen to be Krautrock?
Anyways, I went with the Jefferson Airplane song.
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: April 06 2010 at 18:19
The Doctor wrote:
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This.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 09 2010 at 09:33
Grace Slick is perfect on JA version
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 09 2010 at 10:18
AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! QUEEN FANBOYISM IS BURSTING THROUGH!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: omri
Date Posted: May 09 2010 at 11:01
As I expected many here voted to the band and not the song (well, I almost made that mistake too).
I prefer JA on Queen by far. I think Grace's voice is one of the greatest ever. I love some of their songs (Wooden ships, Hey Fredrik, Greasy heart, White rabit, Rejoice, Have you seen the saucers, just to name a few). On the other hand, "A day at the races" is IMO Queen's best album and STL is the best song there (after "You take my breath away") so I had to vote for Queen on this one.
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Posted By: Zebedee
Date Posted: May 09 2010 at 13:57
Jefferson Airplane, I've never really liked Queen.
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Posted By: TheLastBaron
Date Posted: May 10 2010 at 00:17
Queen's by a long shot, such great vocals, backing vocals and some killer guitar work!!
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: May 10 2010 at 06:58
Jefferson Airplane's song. Rockin', great lyrics, hugely popular when it was released. I find the Queen song rather cheesy, and I like Queen.
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Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: May 10 2010 at 07:55
with the best vocal....queen :)
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Posted By: rod65
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 11:53
I've never been a big fan of the Queen song. as for the JA song--or anything else with Grace Slick singing--I've been a fan since first hearing. I think the pacing on it is better and the emotional kick a lot harder.
By the way, the original recording, done in 1966 by the Great Society--also fronted by Slick until she joined JA the following year--is also quite good. Not as hard or as polished, but quintessentially San Francisco in its rawness.
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Posted By: Ronnie Pilgrim
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 18:24
I gotta go with the San Francisco sound. BTW, does anyone else hear that sound resurrected many years later in The Eurythmics "Would I Lie To You?" Too bad modern bands don't take a stab at it more often.
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Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 04:37
Somebody to Love by Nelly Furtado is the best song by that name.
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Posted By: silcir
Date Posted: May 21 2010 at 05:58
Jefferson Airplane no doubt.
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Posted By: frankbostick
Date Posted: May 21 2010 at 12:02
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