The last ten years has seen a
renaissance in the Italian progressive rock scene with a lot of new
bands taking over the baton from the 1970s bands. These new bands are
by no means bad replacements for the older, classic bands. One of
these new bands are Il Castello Di Atlante. They have so far released
five studio albums, one acoustic live album and a collection of old
demos.
I caught up with Paolo Ferrarotti from Il Castello Di Atlante
to find out more about this band and their albums.
So without any further introductions, I
give you Il Castello Di Atlante. This is a very colorful interview so my questions are in bold and the answers in normal script this time around. ------------ What is Il
Castello Di Atlante up to these days ?
Well, Torodd, first of all
let me say thank you to give me the chance to talk about the band and
let me say hello to all prog lovers who
will read this interview. What Il Castello di Atlante is? It’s not
a band! Is the virtual place where five young men met in the far 1974
and where they have been growing up till now. Il Castello is the
place where we can find peace and stillness, ‘cause we’re
friends, nothing else, simply real friends.
What binds us is friendship
not the music, this is why our line-up has had few changes over the
years.
The next part of
the interview is a “this is your life” and “the record
collectors wet dreams” part where I ask you some more or less
intelligent questions about your music and your albums before we move
on.
When, where and
by whom was Il Castello Di Atlante formed ? Why did you choose that
name?
Sit down and
relax , it's a long story… It all started in September 1974,
when Dino Fiore asked me to form a new band. I was 18 at the time and
I had been playing the drums for three years,
Dino, whom I had known since I was little as he lived opposite me,
was one year older than me and played the bass. We remembered having
met a boy, Massimo by name, who played the violin and perhaps also
the piano. After a little investigation we discovered that he was
called Massimo Di Lauro. It took a few days to find him but, in the
end, we did and we recruited him. In the meantime, we found a
flautist singer and a guitarist. We thought we’d play our
own music rather than wasting time playing, perhaps badly, famous
songs by others. Except that, instead of beginning with simple
things, just so that everyone could get used to each other, we
started with a suite on the history of Man! By the way, the name
wasn’t Castello di Atlante but Hydra. With this name we finished
the Man suite and February 1975 arrived with us in a state of
crisis, as we realised that the guitarist’s rock ‘n’ roll
nature was not at all suited to our kind of playing which was in line
with the progressive rock music of the time. We began to think about
replacing him, without saying anything to him of course! By pure
chance, in that period, I met Aldo and I asked him to come for a
rehearsal. I had known him for a long time as we had been
schoolmates. First he came to hear what kind of music we played and
then he returned a few evenings later with his guitar, a beautiful
Fender Stratocaster! It was amazing how easily he entered into our
songs. He was the guitarist we were looking for! So we replaced the
previous guitarist with Aldo. Immediately after Aldo’s arrival, in
a short time, we composed 5 new songs including Il Saggio and
L’Ippogrifo which we’re still playing today.
In that period we
discovered there was already a group called Hydra,
so we had to change our name. We choose Il Castello di Atlante ‘cause
in that period we found inspiration in epic poems and in the Italian
poem L’Orlando Furioso by Ludovico Ariosto there’s a magician
named Atlante. It sounded good and everyone liked it, so we choose
that name for the band.
In 1982, to give more
space to Massimo’s violin, we decided to find a keyboard player.
Dino told us about Roberto Giordano, “ok, let’s see him” we
answered.
In this way
Roberto arrived. Roberto soon melded into the group very well and
after just a few months, we had prepared a complete repertory with
him re-arranging the songs we had composed for the 4 of us. He had a
good voice too, which gave us an alternative to Aldo who always sang
all the songs. Roberto was also good at composing and arranging; so
an excellent choice from all angles. Since then the line up is still
the same.
How
was your formative years and how did you get your first record deal ?
Well,
from the musical point of view the band was born in the middle of
“Progressive Era”
and, even if we had different experiences and origins, Progressive
rock was our favourite music, it was the point common to all. We were
perfectly at ease in the romantic atmosphere of prog, and we still
believe that prog could be the most expressive and creative musical
genre. At that time we heard to every prog band, Banco, Genesis, PFM,
, King Crimson, Van Der Graaf, Jethro Tull, Yes, Le Orme, and other
bands more jazz influenced as Area, Perigeo, Arti & Mestieri.
Personally I have been influenced by drummers who followed the
melodies rather than beat time. When I heard for the first time to
“The Return of The Giant Hogweed” I was fascinated by Phil
Collin's work. Another drummer I really liked was Carl Palmer and
when I met him in Mexicali at
Baja Prog it
has been as know a myth. From the human point of view we grew up with
the band, better “inside the band!” The band’s story is our own
story. We shared every emotion becoming men all together. Our music
is permeated by our friendship.
About
our first record deal: once,
in 1983, Beppe Crovella came
to see us; he was the founder and keyboard player of Arti &
Mestieri.
We met him after
the concert, he said that he liked us and we could do something
together. He organized some gigs for us.
Some year later
he called and told us about his new project: a
progressive music collection called "New Prog '90" to
produce for a label from Milan, and he wanted to know if we were
interested in taking part. OF COURSE!!! We answered. Since then Beppe
is our friend, producer, landmark and more….
Please give us a
presentation of Sono Io Il Signore Delle Terre A Nord from 1992. The
music, the recording, lyrics, the musicians, the artwork, the
tracks.........
When
we was
involved in Beppe’s project we had been playing since sixteen years
so we had produced a huge
quantity
of songs. We had to choose which songs to record and wasn’t easy at
all!! First of all we took
the classic pieces: ‘Il Vessillo del drago’, ‘Tirando le somme’
and ‘Semplice …ma non troppo;’. Then we moved on to others
which we considered worthy of being included on the first Castello’s
album. We choose two of the first songs composed: Il Saggio and La
Foresta dietro al Mulino di Johan, both written in 1975; then we
selected Estate, not so an old song, but with a great piano intro by
Roberto. Another one was Il Pozzo, a delicate acoustic song close to
Angelo Branduardi’s style.
When the songs list was
ready we went to Beppe’s studio.
We were rather
afraid of what Beppe would have said, because if he had wanted to
change anything, it would have been a problem: we wouldn’t have
accepted ‘interference’ even from our producer.
However Beppe only
advised us to modify the drum beat slightly in part of ‘Tirando le
somme and nothing else.
We were ready and
booked the studio for the last week in January 1992, we started
working on Friday evening. The plan was to
sort out the arrangement of my drums, the preparation of the
microphones and sounds, then – if there was any time left - we
would begin recording. We set up the drums, ate a sandwich while the
sound technician arranged the microphones, and then we did the
sounds. I brought a little photo of Phil Collins whit me.
When Dino arrived at
about 10pm, we began to record. First, we rehearsed the song, we
wanted to record a few times, and then we tried recording.
The strange thing was
that when we were only trying the piece out, we played really well,
but as soon as the sound technician said: “Ok, now we’re going to
record,” oops! Everyone’s arms and hands stiffened up; we got
studio nerves and couldn’t get anything right!
On that first Friday
evening we didn’t manage to record anything!
On Saturday we began at
10am, we were a little more relaxed and finally we managed to play
the first song well.
We played late into the
night.
On Sunday we did the
same thing, finishing the bass and drum elements of all the songs.
I remember that on
Sunday evening at about 7.30pm we were completely wiped out and we
still had two songs to go!
‘Estate’ was
recorded at the first attempt while ‘Non c’è tempo’ was quite
difficult.
At a certain point we
started to talk nonsense: Massimo, after having given a long speech,
instead of saying “I don’t know if I’ve made myself understood”
said “not if I’ve understood”; Aldo, who was talking to the
sound technician called Pippo, instead of saying, “Turn up the
volume in the headphones,” said, “Headphones, turn up Pippo”.
We were just exhausted.
With the basic elements
recorded, the others began to record their parts on the Monday.
Fortunately we managed
to respect the predicted time limits and, at the end of the week, all
the pieces were recorded.
After about a month,
towards the end of February, we did the mixing which took another 3
or 4 days.
With the recordings
finished, we had to think about the type of cover we wanted and the
title of the CD.
A long debate began: we
didn’t know whether to call the record by the name of the group or
give it a specific title, and in this case, we were uncertain as to
what title to choose.
In the end we decided
to title the record “Sono io il signore delle terre a Nord” which
is a lyric from ‘Vessillo del Drago.’
We decided to ask Gigi
Ruga – who had already designed a number of our previous covers -
to design this one, only telling him the title of the record.
Gigi drew a
beautiful design with a castle in the background and a standard with
a dragon in the foreground. Everyone liked the design; the only
feature that left some people puzzled, in particular Aldo, was the
skull which was attached by its hair to the standard’s pole.
We were worried that it
would make people think of heavy metal music which is absolutely not
our genre. Anyway, we decided to keep it.
At the end of
1992 the record was at last released on the Vinyl Magic label in the
New Prog ‘90 collection. It was a big
satisfaction when, a few months later, I found it in Milan in the
Virgin Mega Store.
I remember that I
went to look for it in the progressive rock section and I couldn’t
find it, so I asked, and they said it was in the heavy metal section;
Aldo had been right, the cover deceived! Ah, ah, ah!
Your
second album Passo Dopo Passo from 1994 is a collection of live
material from 1974 to 1984. Please tell us more about this album and
why it was released.
Well, towards
the end of 1993 Beppe got in touch with us with some astounding news:
the first CD was selling well and we should make another one! Even if
the distribution was on a small scale, it was worldwide. Beppe had
sent some copies to the United States, Japan, South Korea, Singapore
and Brazil.
In fact he showed us
reviews printed in various specialised magazines from the different
countries.
Fantastic! We were
being successful.
Beppe suggested we do a
second CD.
“Ok,” we said,
“When?”
“Immediately,” he
replied.
“What do you
mean IMMEDIATELY?!! We haven’t got any new songs to record!”. So
we thought of making a collection of our recordings and releasing a
kind of anthology of songs composed between 1974 and 1984.
We rather liked the
idea, but we were a bit hesitant given the very bad quality of the
recordings and, in some cases, of the music itself.
Moreover we would lose
the opportunity to re-arrange some of the songs if we wanted to use
them for a new album.
But Beppe
wouldn’t listen to us and so, our second CD ‘Passo dopo passo’
was released in all haste. The cover was made quickly too, apart from
Gigi Ruga’s design. We put a concert photo which had been taken in
1981 on the inside; it’s a very good photo except that it was taken
from so far away that you can’t see our faces, it could be any old
rock band!
In fact the
critics didn’t like this second CD very much; it looked too much
like a business move and the recordings were really very bad. It was
a pity ‘cause some songs deserved a better fate.
Please give us a
presentation of L'Ippogrifo from 1995. The music, the recording,
lyrics, the musicians, the artwork, the tracks.........
Given
the limited success of the second record, together with Beppe, we
decided to make quickly another studio album. We immediately set to
work.
We took some very
old tunes like ‘L’ippogrifo’, ‘Volta la Pagina’ and ‘La
Vittoria di Er’ and improved on them, re-doing some parts, and
taking out others; we also wrote some new songs.
Lyrics began to
be different, not only based on fairy tales and magical characters
but also on harder images. The lyrics of ‘E Recito Anch’io’ for
example are really sad and gloomy, ‘Volta la Pagina’ describes
what Aldo said me after a bad ended love affair, while ‘Chrysalis’
tells about Il Castello; I wrote ‘Chrysalis’ lyrics in 1994, but
today I’d write exactly the same words!!
We recorded in July of
1994. The sessions were exhausting that time too; 12 or 15 hours a
day in the studio for a whole week.
We decided to use
the same title for the album as one of the songs, the most
representative being ‘L’ippogrifo’. We also decided to have a
rather different cover which folded up into three parts, with all the
lyrics in both Italian and English. In
effect the cover was really noteworthy, so much so that several
reviews highlighted how such a small label could manage to put
together such a sophisticated package while the majors limited
themselves to rather spartan covers.
The album came out
towards the end of 1994 and was received quite well.
There were also
some negative criticisms, above all about the length of the songs
which, in some cases, were considered to be too long. Perhaps they
were right, certainly ‘L’ippogrifo’ hasn’t got such a fresh
or simple sound as the first album, but I think that it has more
depth and needs to be listened to a number of times to be truly
appreciated.
Please give us a
presentation of Come il Seguitare Delle Stagioni from 2000. The
music, the recording, lyrics, the musicians, the artwork, the
tracks.........
After ‘L’Ippogrifo’
had published, we began immediately to prepare the new album because
we had decided not to use old, re-arranged songs, but only to do new
songs, so we started composing immediately; we knew that to prepare a
new album we would take at least 3 years so we began straight after
the release of ‘L’ippogrifo.’
The reason why
we're so slow is our way of working: we work always in team, one of
us has an idea, usually Roberto or me,
immediately puts it in common with the others. Then we start working
all together, so everyone contribute to the development of the song.
It’s quite hard ‘cause we’re 5, so there are 5 different
sensibilities and musical tastes. Then we hear to the new music
critically. After, I work on the lyrics if not still ok. The song is
over only when we’re all sure and convinced that both music and
lyrics are ok. It’s a long way to go up, but, at the end, everyone
puts something of himself.
Anyway, we weren’t
lacking in inspiration and in just over a year we composed the four
main pieces we would put on the album: ‘Sotto il ponte’, ‘Ad un
amico’, ‘Giudizio’ and ‘Stava scritto’.
Towards the end of
1997, we went and saw Beppe.
Our relationship
had now become routine; we knew that once
we had the definitive version, we had to record the songs in our
studio and then take them to Beppe to listen to.
This time too, after
listening to them, he only said: “Ok, when do you want to come and
record?”
What I’ve always
liked about Beppe is the fact that the pieces we record with him are
exactly as we conceived and played them; he never asks us to make any
changes, not even the most insignificant. We are evidently in
complete harmony with his requirements as a producer.
In January 1998 we
began the recordings of ‘Come il seguitare delle Stagioni’, the
fourth album.
The week in the studio
slipped by without any particular problems.
Recording had become
second nature to us now.
We were no longer
wooden like the first time; I remember that I did the final break on
Giudizio (which isn’t easy) perfectly at the first go. I amazed
myself!
Beppe also gave us a
very pleasant surprise because as well as the CD, he produced an LP.
The LP has one
song missing: ‘Giudizio’ is not on it simply because they
couldn’t all physically fit onto the vinyl. It was a great
satisfaction however, also because it is now considered a rarity
since record companies don’t produce vinyl discs any more.
Please give us a
presentation of Quintessenza from 2004. The music, the recording,
lyrics, the musicians, the artwork, the tracks.........
After
Come il Seguitare delle Stagioni came out, Dino left the band; this
has been a really disgrace because
Dino had been with us from the beginning, he and I had had the idea
of forming Il Castello di Atlante, we couldn’t imagine being
without him! But unfortunately it happened.
Roberto, in 2001,
introduced us Franco Fava who played bass.
From the musical point
of view, although Franco was an experienced player- he was 52 years
old – he had never played progressive rock before and was curious
to see how he would like it.
From the personal point
of view, he remained quite cool for the first few times, but we tell
there was some kind of feeling and this was a good sign. As you know
we would never be able to play with somebody who wasn’t first a
friend.
Ehmm, what we’re
talking about? Ah yeah, Quintessenza.
In this record we had
taken particular care over the lyrics so that they were as near as
possible to the harmonies of the music.
I remember a phrase in
the text ‘Non puoi fingere’ which had to last for four beats in
3/8 time. We took nearly 3 hours to find the phrase (“lascia che il
vero si plasmi all’interno di te”) that was both metrically
correct and relevant to previous and following lines, but in the end
we were very satisfied!
When we had
finished the song, we realised that we had written one of our best
ever.
We played it to
Beppe who also thought the same. We soon decided that it would be our
first track on the new CD.
Another good song
is Ilmarinen forgia il Sampo that we wrote for Kalevala Project: we
were invited by a Finnish magazine called Colossus to set the epic
Finnish poem called ‘Kalevala’ to music created by 30 groups from
around the world.
I went to the
Colossus website to look at the project and I saw that there were
English, French, Swedish, Finnish and American bands; goodness, I
thought, how on earth did they think of us?!
The main poem’s
character was Ilmarinen, a blacksmith whose adventures took place in
a magical world populated by wizards, wicked ladies, spells and
fairytale characters. We had no problem in composing a piece based on
an environment which, in the past, had inspired many of our songs.
For the beginning we took inspiration from a piece I had composed
years before which we considered suited to the atmosphere we wanted
to create.
Together with Roberto,
I wrote the first two lines of lyrics to this music; then one evening
Aldo arrived saying: “Guys, I’ve had the music in my mind all
day, let’s write it down.”
Aldo hummed and
Roberto found the notes on the piano and in the end they came up with
a lovely melody in three-four time, which was perfect for the song.
We decided to include ‘Ilmarinen forgia il Sampo’ too although it
was in Kalevala; it was too lovely not to be included in our work.
To record the new
CD we experimented with a new approach: when a piece was prepared, we
told Beppe and we began to record drums and bass then, even after a
few months, we recorded the other parts. This system is a little
‘diluted’ but in this way we don’t have to be ready with all
the songs to record for one precise deadline. We have a little more
breathing space. The new system of recording (chosen by Beppe) was
really very good because we could record and still go on preparing
other new songs. In fact when we’d finished recording the first
track, we also finished ‘Questo destino’ while every now and
again Roberto or Aldo went to Beppe’s to do their parts.
After the
composing of this three songs: ‘Non Puoi Fingere’, ‘Ilmarinen
Forgia il Sampo’ e ‘Questo Destino’, we dusted down ‘Cavalcando
tra le Nuvole’ and ‘La Strada’, which I had written in the
early 1980s, of which we did an acoustic version with piano and
guitar and a symphonic orchestra-like finale.
In November 2003 we
went to Beppe to plan the last recordings and the release of the new
CD.
As it was too late for
the end of the year by this time, we decided to release it in spring
2004.
We spent the rest
of the winter finishing the recordings and mixing. When I heard all
the pieces one after the other for the first time, I realised that we
just made our best album. The musical parts, the arrangements, the
lyrics, everything seemed made with an attention to detail and a
maturity that I hadn’t noticed before. The recordings were of a
superior quality compared to the previous albums, I think the sound
spectrum is much wider than the other albums.
We had to find a worthy
title, we made a close examination of the most significant phrases in
the lyrics but found so many that it wasn’t possible to isolate
just one for the album.
As it was being
released in 2004 which was the Castello’s thirtieth anniversary, I
wanted to give it a title that commemorated this fact and so I
suggested ‘Trent’anni dentro il Castello’ (Thirty years in the
castle) with a photo of our faces in profile and full face, like
prisoners.
The idea was quite good
but Beppe preferred to make use of it for a collection of our hits,
(he has been thinking of doing a greatest hits for some time now,
with the best tracks from our albums) and he thought that such a
cover would be better for that occasion, so we let it drop.
One evening, while we
were weighing up the various possibilities, Aldo suddenly exclaimed,
“Quintessenza! (Quintessence) Why don’t we call it Quintessenza?”
“Sounds good,” I
said, “it’s also our fifth album, so with the word staring
‘quint’ it’s perfect and also, in our albums there’s the
essence of our music.”
The others also agreed
and so the title was decided.
For the cover, we
decided for the first time not to have the usual design but to have
something different.
We looked for several
photos, mostly with abstract subjects and in the end we all agreed on
a photo of a castle which Roberto had taken during a trip to France,
but with totally exaggerated colours.
It was definitely
different from our usual cover designs but we all liked it and we
chose it.
Thus in March 2004
Quintessenza was released, Castello’s fifth album.
Please tell us more about the acoustic live
album Concerto Acustico from 2006.
Well,
after five CDs recorded in the studio we would have liked to do
something different, we have discussed at length with Beppe on the
possibility to record a live show. But wasn't enough, our songs live
would not have been so different from the CD version. Then one day in
2005, I had an idea: play our songs in acoustic version, we would
have given a new "dress" to the songs by
changing the arrangements, while maintaining at the same time, the
real substance of the songs themselves. We had already composed
acoustic songs such as Il Pozzo, Alice and others, but the idea to
set the songs were born in the electric version in a different way
could have been very interesting. So we did an experiment, we took
Non puoi fingere, we cut the most symphonic parts trying to exalt the
more simple and intimate moments. The result was amazing indeed. Too
Beppe was immediately agreed, he appreciated very much the new
atmosphere and the new “sound” of the tune and supported the
project. We spent seven months, more or less, to re-arrange the songs
we had chosen and, in the same time, to find a place where manage the
acoustic gig. The occasion was the inauguration of the lobby of the
Teatro Coccia of Novara. I knew the artistic director of the theatre
and I asked him if the new space was available for acoustic gigs. "Of
course, in December, a string quartet and a month later a soprano
with piano will play there," he said. I said "No, I mean,
an acoustic concert of rock music." "Rock music .... ROCK
MUSIC??!!" shouted. "Yeah ... why not," I said calmly.
"Yes, why not," he repeated after a moment.
So
I put on other three acoustic shows beyond our own. The venue was
quite small but with very good acoustic and the audience was really
close. We haven't had any problems to record, on the other hand,
there wasn’t so many instruments, 16 channels were enough. It has
been the most simple recording we did! Dino came to see the show and
we dedicated him a song, it has been a very touching moment….
Please give us a
presentation of Capitolo 7 - Tra Le Antiche Mura from 2009. The
music, the recording, lyrics, the musicians, the artwork, the
tracks.........
Well,
after 2006, many events happened: Franco left the band, some of us
have had some personal problems ...So I was very impressed by them
and I started writing
new songs based on these events. First, I wrote 'Ancora Suonare
Ancora Insieme' which tells the return of Dino within the band after
ten years; the first time we played together I felt, but everyone I
suppose, how much deep had been Dino's absence. Basically as a friend
more than a bass player. Another song written during that time was
'L’Uomo Solo' based on a novel by Luigi Pirandello, who was one of
the greatest Italian poet of the 20th century, even for this song I
found the inspiration from our lives . 'Tra Le Antiche Mura' is
based, once again, on our friendship and the meaning of the Castle ..
the place where we can find ext, ext, as I said at the beginning of
this interview. Malebolge was written by Robert, for another project
of Colossus (the Finnish magazine, remember?): Dante's Inferno.
Malebolge is the longest song we've ever written, more than 19
minutes, but never boring ... I hope! When we finished all the songs,
we noticed that 2 songs on 5 were based on novels. So we had the idea
of representing each song as a book linked to each other by putting a
musical theme and, at the beginning and end, a brief introduction and
a closing song. In this way the whole album sounds like an album
"concept". Beppe was enthusiast! He suggested that the
cover had to be close to the idea of books. I called Gigi Ruga and I
told our "needs", in a few days he drawn an old library in
a longue in a partially ruined castle, with a big ancient book in the
foreground .. really beautiful! For me this CD is very particular
‘cause I wrote the most part of the songs. Course we worked on them
all together as usual, but my proposals have had really few changes,
for example the final version of ‘L’uomo Solo’ is the same I
composed, ‘Leggi e Ascolta’ too has had few changes.
Then,
for trademark reasons, the author of music is Robert and I'm only the
writer of lyrics but it's not true. So I feel this CD as my own, much
more than the previous ones. And I've been very very surprised when I
read the first good reviews published, but when ‘Tra le Antiche
Mura’ has been selected by the jury of "Italian Prog Awards"
to participate as best Italian prog record in 2009 I remained
incredulous. I
had already composed several songs in the past, but after the
contribution made by others, the songs were very different from my
first idea; this time, on the contrary, the arrangements have changed
a few things.
What is considered our best CD is based on ideas born in my mind ...
Can you believe!?
What is the
current situation regarding availability and distribution of your
albums ? Is there any plans to make your back catalogue more widely
available ?
Well,
I’m not much upgraded about this, Beppe is in charge of production
and distribution; I know that Massimo Orlandini’s Maracash is doing
a good work to distribute our CDs abroad, but I really
don’t know much more. You
know, we prefer not to put our hands in things that don’t belong to
us. Every one has his own role: we compose, play music and record
CDs, Beppe follows the rest. If things weren't so clear there could
be a sort of confusion, can sounds strange, I know, but it works
good!!!
What is your
experiences with the music/record industry ?
Well,
we had two different experiences many years ago, both unhappy.
The first in 1977 when the group "Area"
came to play in Vercelli, we met Pierluigi Fariselli, keyboardist. We
talked with him for a long time about our music and the possibility
of making a record or playing professionally. He gave us the address
of their record label (Cramps) and the name of a producer to make an
appointment. We met the producer, whom I
don’t remember the name, he heard our music with attention and, at
the end, he said: “well, guys, the music is very good but we must
work on the lyrics”. “Why?” we asked. “There’s no political
topics” he answered. Political topics??? “Yeah, our label is
clearly on the left side, we support bands who are on the same side”.
“Ahhh”… and we gone away. The problem wasn’t left or right,
we did not want “dirty” our music with political topics! One year
later, in 1978, we took part in a competition and we played in Turin
at Telestudio Torino a little television. Even if the first
classified in the competition could have a chance to record a record
with the label RCA, one of the Majors, we weren’t interested in the
competition but we participated because we wanted to play. According
to the rules of the competition you could only present new songs of
your own composition, but the first two positions in the competition
were taken by a girl who sang one of Mina’s songs and a boy who had
sung a piece by Paul Simon…. so much for new songs!
But since we have
been started working with Beppe we haven’t had problem anymore.
We owe much to Beppe.
Please tell us
more about the gigs and festivals you have played.
Until
2000 we played in Italy
only, some everywhere, in 1981 we played in a festival near Vercelli
and the day after played Banco, in that occasion we knew Banco’s
guys, in 1996 we took part in a festival in Bologna with Museo
Rosenbach and other Italian bands less known.
We
had many other gigs but nothing particularly remarkable, we did some
shows in local TV. Beppe, (always him!) started saying, since 2000,
that he had received from many different countries some requests to
play abroad and it would be better if we had accepted. We had some
doubts about this opportunity,
we
were not sure of our capacities and we could have also have problems
with our families. So we never approached seriously the problem.
You
know, when you don't think you have a chance to do a specific thing,
you think only: I would but I can't… and nothing else, but it’s
deeply wrong!!! In 2004 I received an e-mail from an unknown address,
the object was: “YOUR MUSIC IN MEXICO”. What’s this? Spam? I
thought, not exactly ... Baja Prog organizers had invited us to the
2005 edition of the festival. I read three or four times the message,
thinking: “there’s a mistake….
someone
must have made a mistake…. is not possible…
how
f**k can they know us?” The day after Beppe called me: “did you
receive an e-mail from Mexico by chance?” He asked me. “Yeah, I
did”, I said, “but I didn't understand anything”…
Simple!
Said Beppe, “I’ve sent to Baja Prog management your latest CD,
they like it and they want to involve Il Castello in the next
edition.” We had to decide and we decided to go! It was the real
turning point in the life of Il Castello. In Mexicali we met a lot of
musicians, producers and managers and in some cases deep friendships
are born; for example with Alfonso Vidales, my Mexican brother, well
more than a brother Poncho is my twin because he was born one day
after me! Or Hiroshi Masuda, my Japanese brother, or Alain Chiarazzo
from Marseille. At Baja Prog we spent unforgettable days, bands and
audience were hosted all together in the same hotel, there I knew
Carl Palmer, the atmosphere was incredibly friendly, the audience was
extremely warm and involved into the gigs. We had really a good time!
A year later we gigged at ProgSud in Marseille; Alain, the boss of
ProgSud, saw our show in Mexicali and, when I proposed him Il
Castello, he accepted. The venue wasn’t large but the audience…very
hot, really connoisseurs. In the same night played Mangala Vallis
(Bernardo Lanzetti’s and Gigi Cavalli’s band) and “monumental”
Soft Machine. The fantastic side of these festivals is the chance you
have of knowing legendary bands or mythic characters of prog music!
In 2008 we played in Verona Prog Fest with Le Orme, Aldo Tagliapietra
is really a simple and smart man, Arti & Mestieri (Beppe’s
band) are all friends of us, their drummer Furio Chirico, one of the
best Italian drummers, played with us in Sardinia at the festival In
Progess…One. I asked him to play drums during the last tune of our
show when I introduce the band’s members…really funny! In 2008
we had the Japan Tour, we played three gigs in Tokyo, one in Nagoya
and one in Kyoto…GREAT!! We must thank Hiroshi Masuda (my Japanese
brother), Tsuneko Arakawa and Yayoi Isutzu who managed this tour.
Japanese people are simply fantastic! Don't believe the one who says
that Japanese people are cold and shy, is not true! They’re more
than warm, and
always ready to be involved in the show, they sang in Italian with
us!! The last festival where we played has been Prog Farm in Holland
last November, even there we found very good musicians and new
friends…we’re lucky men to have so many good relationships. For
example, I never met Edo Spanninga (the boss of Prog Farm) before
November, but when I saw him, I felt an immediate good tuning as I
had met an old fellow. This is very….how can I say… gratifying:
you meet a person and the only thing you have in common is the music,
but in a few hours you become a friend and you can talk with him
about everything without any problem. I meet Poncho Vidales once
every two or three years but I consider him as a very close friend,
and every time I hear him is a deep joyfulness.
I think it is
fair to say that Il Castello Di Atlante is a classic Italian
symphonic prog band with a slight folk rock feel, but still with the
sound from the 1970s scene. But how would you describe your music ?
I
answer with the description that is on our website:
“Musical production is geared to the genuine Italian symphonic
prog. The
texts, strictly in Italian, originates from the emotions and
experiences and are often characterized by allegories and
metaphors. In
the group all takes precedence over individuality as a consequence of
composition, based precisely on teamwork than on individual ideas.”
Forgive the shortness but there's no much more to add.
How is the
progressive rock scene in Italy these days ?
Well,
in Italy there are a lot of very good prog bands, but there are a lot
of problems too. First of all in Italy prog music has not a large
audience, TV and radio broadcast only….sh*t, forgive my vulgarity,
but it’s tragically true! I’ve got three daughters: one of 22 and
two twins of 16 and they are seeing TV programs as “Big Brother”,
music contests and other rubbish like these and they are listening to
the singers who come out from TV; and all their friends are on the
same line. Yeah, sometimes they listen to Castello’s music but I
don’t believe they really like prog music, you know…Dad’s
music…what a bore!!! Another problem are the costs: in these days
I’m trying to manage a prog festival as I already did four years
ago; today as yesterday the shows must be free because if there were
an entrance fee nobody would pay. In Italy there are two kind of
events: the ones where people pay even 100 or 200 Euros to see
Madonna, or Laura Pausini or bands from abroad and others completely
free, there's no middle way, nobody is available to pay 5 or 10 Euros
to see a festival with good but
not well known
bands. So it’s vital find out partners and sponsors to cover
charges and, in this period, this is a very hard work! There are some
good initiatives as Verona Prog Fest or In Progress One in Sardinia
but are quite isolated cases. For Italian bands is much simpler to
play abroad rather than in Italy!
I guess Il
Castello Di Atlante does not fill every hour of your lives. What else
are the band members up to ?
You’re
right, we aren’t professional musicians, the only musician is
Roberto who plays in a dance
orchestra (sigh!!) and is the owner of a small recording studio,
Aldo, Massimo, Dino and I…. are….we are...attention…. are you
ready for a surprise? We are BANK MANAGERS!!! You know the ones
always with jacket and tie, always serious, always connected with
their offices? These we are! But, once a week, we change becoming a
prog band… this is for the last 36 years. Few colleagues of ours
know that we're a prog band and we go around the world playing our
own music. I remember once I was in Verona, where there is the main
branch of my bank, with a colleague of mine, we were waiting for a
meeting and we went into a shop, it was Fnac, I found in the Italian
CD section 'L'ippogrifo', “this is mine own" I said, "Your
own? What do you mean?" he asked. "I recorded this CD"
I replied. Ah, ah, ah! He laughed loudly, I bought the CD (true!!), I
opened it and I showed him the inside pics… he was stunned! He took
up the CD, and after a few days, I asked me "I didn’t
know….what are you doing in the bank?"
What
are the plans for Il Castello Di Atlante this year and in the future
?
Well,
at the moment,
we have several projects:
Gigs
= we’ll play in France at Crescendo Festival next August, then, on
September 11th
we’ll have a great event in Italy at 2 Days Prog festival in Veruno
where we’ll play with Delirium and New Trolls, two of the most
important Italian bands from Seventies. For next year I’m working
to put on a short tour in North America, but now it’s just little
more than an idea.
DVD
= as
you know on November 2008 we had a Japan Tour, we took a huge
quantity of material: footages, recordings, pics. We have planned
with Beppe to publish a DVD based on that tour this year.
NEW
SONGS = we’re already writing new songs, but next album should be
at least good as the previous one which probably has been our
masterpiece, so….. We have an idea….better…a dream… something
special….but it’s too early to talk about this now.
Anything you
want to add to this interview ?
Yeah.
Thanks for giving me the chance to make known better my band and my
friends.
Then,
let me say I’ve been really a lucky man. I have never felt alone,
my drum set or my piano have always filled my life, and even during
the most sad and difficult moments I always found Castello's friends
around me. I don't know how many men can say the same thing. Paolo Ferrarotti from Il Castello Di Atlante
A big thank you to Paolo for this very revealing interview. I personally rate this band very highly. Their music is on par with the best in the RPI scene.
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