Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno is back
again with their new album almost 40 years since their first album. I
caught up with their guitarist and vocalist Luciano Regoli for an
update. The interview was submitted by me and all answers from Luciano has been translated from Italian to English by Raff. I am very grateful for his help and general friendliness. As per usual, my questions are in bold and Luciano Regoli's answers are in bold italic red.
When, where and by whom was
Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno formed?
RRR was formed by Nanni Civitenga
(guitar) and Luciano Regoli (vocals) in Rome, March 1972.
Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno
included members from other bands. Please tell us more about these
bands.
Damaso Grassi and Francesco Froggio
Francica came from Panna Fredda, Nanni Civitenga from Quelle Strane
cose Che, Paolo Bencivenga (RRR’s first bassist) from cover bands
inspired by Eric Clapton’s Cream, Stefano Piermarioli (aka “The
Raven”) from classical music, Luciano Regoli from Bubble Gum and Il
Ritratto di Dorian Gray, as well as a slew of minor, post-beat bands.
Il Ritratto di Dorian Gray featured
Claudio Simonetti (keyboards), Walter Martino (drums), Fernando Fera
and Roberto Gardin (guitars). We did not have a bassist, and
essentially played covers of bands such as The Nice, Deep Purple,
King Crimson, and Yes. We were active in 1971, and, on account of our
technical skills, quickly became one of the most highly regarded
bands in Rome. In May 1971 we participated in the second edition of
the Caracalla Festival in Rome, and attracted a lot of favourable
attention - I have a 3-minute Super 8 mm film of the band on stage,
unfortunately without sound.
When I left the band to found RRR, they
kept going with an ELP-like lineup, enlisting the help of
classically-trained Massimo Giorgi on double bass. However, the first
lineup of the band remains the only true incarnation of Il Ritratto,
since the second was very short-lived.
How did you get a recording deal
back in those days?
At that time it was not very hard to
get a recording deal. Record labels understood that progressive rock
was good business, and obviously they broke out the red carpet for
us. As RRR, our manager Pino Tuccimei found us a deal with Fonit
Cetra, which treated us like royalty, believing and investing a lot
in us – paying for tours, flights to the most important festivals,
and, especially, two months in a Turin recording studio with
everything we asked for, including a 40-piece orchestra.
Unfortunately, when they decided to send us to the Sanremo Festival,
we started fighting badly among ourselves, and ended up disbanding.
Your music at the debut album is in
my view very intricate. But how would you describe your music ?
There were two souls to the band, so to
speak – a jazz one, and a dark rock one. My own personal reference
point was Arthur Brown, while our drummer was a huge jazz fan. Those
conflicting souls were both a blessing and a curse, since they
generated an intense creative rush, but also caused the end of the
band, as our individual tastes drifted more and more apart. Though at
first Italian progressive rock was strongly influenced by British
prog, in a very short time it managed to find a personality of its
own, assimilating the Italian flair for melody in the vocal parts,
and our long-standing folk tradition as regards the musical side of
things. Singing rock music in Italian is not easy because of the many
words stressed on the very last syllable. Then, lyrics dealing with
everyday subjects (such as the ones found in blues) sound much better
in English, while in Italian they often end up sounding ridiculous.
Therefore, Italian prog bands turned to lyrics with epic or fantasy
content, and so did we – concocting the story of an astronaut that
comes back to Earth, and finds the world destroyed by its own human
inhabitants.
Please tell us more about Per... Un
Mondo Di Cristallo. The music, the recording, lyrics, the musicians,
the artwork, the tracks.........
In the summer of ’72 we retreated to
the small village of Preci in the mountains of Umbria, in central
Italy, where our bassist Paolo Bencivenga had a house. There we wrote
the whole album, in an atmosphere of true friendship, drinking and
eating sausages, with the house full of pretty girls. All around us
the mountains were keeping watch over us, and the album came easily,
in true collaborative spirit. I wrote “L’ombra” together with
The Raven – a dark, disturbing piece both musically and lyrically –
as well as the central section of “Un Palco di Marionette”, where
a speaking voice is featured. I also wrote that snippet of “L’ombra”
where it says “La guardi per capire, ma invece sta ridendo”,
which I took from the soundtrack of an Alfred Hitchcock TV series.
Paolo Bencivenga was about 6.7 ft tall, and older than us by some
four or five years. He was a devoted follower of psychedelic rock,
and did not really believe in progressive rock – for him only Cream
and Hendrix existed, so he used to make fun of us whenever we
produced dreamy or wacky themes. A few months later he was ousted
from the band, though it was a matter of need rather than choice, and
replaced by Manlio Zacchia for the album’s recording. However, we
were not very keen on Manlio either, so in the end I managed to bring
in my former guitarist in Il Ritratto di Dorian Gray, Roberto Gardin,
to play bass in our live shows.
You did a lot of festivals and gigs
before and after the release of this album. Please tell us more about
them. How was the Italian scene at that time?
We were constantly on the road, even
before recording our album (which happened in the fall of ’72). Our
manager had understood that he could make a lot of money out of us,
so he got us travelling back and forth all over Italy, performing in
the most unlikely places. Once in Sicily we played at a fried-foods
takeaway. On the other hand, there were also many important
festivals, such as Palermo Pop or Villa Pamphili, or tours with other
prog bands, such as the one in the winter of ’73 with Metamorfosi
and Flea On The Honey, which lasted many weeks and touched the most
important venues in northern Italy. The highways became a meeting
point for bands – at night it was possible to eat at rest stops
with a band coming from the opposite side of the country. When we
were on stage, the audience participated in an incredibly intense
fashion – until politics got in the way, and the kids started
smashing everything in sight because they wanted to get into gigs for
free.
Why went Raccomandata Ricevuta
Ritorno into this long hibernation and almost became one of these
many “one albums only” bands the Italian Prog Rock scene is known
for?
As I said before, there was no future
for another album, since the musical tastes of the band members were
so diverse. Therefore, one of the many promises of Italian prog
became a ‘legend’ only because it released a one-off album,
especially since it was one of the very first bands on the prog
scene, together with Banco, PFM and Osanna.
What did you do in all those years
besides of playing in other bands like Procession, Samadhi and
Kaleidon?
I became a painter when I quit playing
music in 1974. Nanni Civitenga went on to play bass in the orchestra
of the RAI (the Italian broadcasting company), and subsequently
joined Ennio Morricone’s orchestra. Francesco Froggio Francica
continued to play jazz almost exclusively, though still using the RRR
name, but he never recorded anything. Roberto Gardin joined the
orchestra of trumpet player Nini Rosso. Stefano Piermarioli left the
music world behind, while Damaso Grassi dropped off the radar after
the ‘jazz RRR’ experience.
I guess I am not the only one to be
surprised when your new album was announced (but without revealing
any details). Your first album from 1972 is well regarded in the
progressive rock community and the announcement created some
excitement. Hence this interview. Why did you return to release a new
album?
You really want the truth? Here you
are. In the years 1994-2000 I was a member of a prog-metal band, DGM,
where I sang in English. From 2000 to 2008 I acted as a producer for
my singing (and life) partner, Cristina Cioni, who unfortunately
claimed my complete attention as a producer, so the idea of reforming
RRR had to be put on hold because of that. Once our relationship
ended, I was free to devote my whole time to the reunion, but was
unable to trace all of my old friends. Some had quit playing, some
had ended in serious trouble, so only three of all the former RRR
members have collaborated to the recording of the CD. Essentially,
though, this is my solo project, since I had already written both the
music and the lyrics. Nanni Civitenga, Roberto Gardin and Walter
Martino have only collaborated to the arrangements, and of course
provided the instrumentation.
Please tell us more about your new
album Il Pittore Volante. The music, the recording, lyrics, the
musicians, the artwork, the tracks.........
About ten years ago I wrote a book
based on the travel notes and reflections on life and art that I had
gathered during my travels around the world, when I was a portraitist
very much in demand by high-profile families. I called the book “Il
Pittore Volante” (The Flying Painter), as if it was a bird’s-eye
view of human events, sometimes related with a sort of detachment,
sometimes with wholehearted participation. I wrote the whole of the
album of the same title in less than two months, and took the lyrics
from the book. Clearly, the dark, gloomy influences featured in my
painting became part of the musical work. Tracks like “La mente”
contain philosophical elements deriving from my direct knowledge of
both the person and the work of Jiddu Krishnamurti (1897 – 1986).
On other tracks, such as “Il cambiamento”, you can hear the
influence of my love for Led Zeppelin, while on the likes of “Raoul”
you can feel my passion for the blues. Many years have passed since
1972, and I have wanted to almost cram all the influences of my life
– far too many things to say. I have had the pleasure of the
participation of so many musician friends, both younger and from my
own generation: Carl Verheyen, Nicola di Staso, Claudio Simonetti,
Walter Martino, Roberto Gardin, Nanni Civitenga, Fabio Pignatelli,
Lino Vairetti of Osanna, and then Francesco Venerucci, Cristina
Cioni, Jessica Gentini, Riccardo Santini, Massimiliano Castellani,
Moreno Falciani, Fabrizio Desideri, Maurizio Pariotti.
All the artwork is based on my
paintings – both the cover and the inside of the vinyl version and
the CD booklet – with the painting on the right-hand side, and the
lyrics on the left. For each song I have chosen the painting that
represented it best – for instance, for “Il vecchio” I have
chosen a portrait of my grandmother’s head (painted in 1982), while
for “Il fuoco” I have chosen “Il sabba”, depicting the
meeting of four witches around a fire.
A special collector’s edition was
also released – 66 copies of a boxset containing an original oil
painting the size of a vinyl album (which means 66 different
paintings), a CD, a videoclip of “Il cambiamento”, the book “Il
pittore volante”, the vinyl album, and a 24 x 30 cm photo of RRR
performing at the Villa Pamphili Festival in 1972, with my autograph.
What are the plans for Raccomandata
Ricevuta Ritorno?
At this moment, after all the hard work
of the past two years, I am about to organize our live performances.
My idea is to play only in theatres, as the album is very theatrical,
and at a few festivals. The basic band will include a drummer, two
guitarists, a bassist, a keyboardist, a saxophonist/flutist, and a
vocalist – as well as the participation of high-profile guests such
as Claudio Simonetti and Carl Verheyen.
There is a lot of renewed interest
for Italian Progressive rock at the moment with people from all over
the world, myself included, having declared their devotion to this
scene. Which includes books and websites. Have you noticed this
interest and why do you think Italian Progressive Rock is so highly
regarded ?
I believe that Italian prog, together
with the British variety the first to appear on the music scene, was
defined by its Mediterranean influences, which differentiated it from
the varieties that in the Seventies developed just about everywhere
else. Therefore, I think Italian prog has rightfully earned second
place after British prog, which we might call the ‘father’ of the
genre.
I found you through your own artist
page. You are an accomplished artist and some of your paintings are
really beautiful. Please tell us more about your life as an artist
and your paintings.
At the age of 17 I was a rocker, and
was so until I turned 24. Then, I quit music to immerse myself fully
in traditional figurative painting. In spite of my young age, I was
seen as an ‘old young man’ who loved to study Caravaggio and
Velazquez instead of Warhol or Bacon. However, I continued undeterred
in my search for the lost technique, and at last I managed to become
a real painter – just like a craftsman who has once again found the
tools with which to practice his art. For 36 years I travelled, did
shows, painted portraits all over the world, especially in Europe,
with the support and patronage of the great Swiss, French and
American families. A hard life, completely dedicated to art, yet
extremely gratifying. I studied at the Art School in Rome, then
attended the faculty of Architecture. For a year I studied painting
with a friar (who was also a painter) at the monastery of San
Bonaventura al Palatino in Rome. However, it was on my own that I
found the thread leading me back to the great painting tradition –
in a kind of artistic solitude that kept me company for years. This
is why I have come back to music – in order to get some respite
from a very intense life. I don’t believe I need to talk about my
paintings, because they are the only things that can speak on their
own. It takes an instant to understand the emotion that can be evoked
by a real painting. Anyone who would like to see my paintings can
visit my website, http://www.lucianoregoli.it - http://www.lucianoregoli.it
Anything else you want to add to
this interview?
I’d like to add a word for all young
people who are getting into the arts. They should cultivate a sincere approach,
without any hidden agendas, humble yet full of passionate fire.
Luciano Regoli, 1st March, 2010
A big thank you to Luciano Regoli for the interview and to our very own Raff for the translation. Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno's artist page on PA can be found http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=535 - Their new album can be bought from http://www.btf.it -
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