PINK FLOYD REFORM FOR LIVE AID?
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Topic: PINK FLOYD REFORM FOR LIVE AID?
Posted By: Progger
Subject: PINK FLOYD REFORM FOR LIVE AID?
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 08:14
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According to articles in today's tabloids, Pink Floyd with Roger Waters are hotly rumoured to play the 20th anniversary 'Live Aid' concert at London's Hyde Park on July 2nd. Bob Geldof is holding talks with a bands spokesman who said, '' There have been a whole series of calls. Sir Bob is hopeful we can make this happen''. If anyone can make it possible, I think it would be Bob Geldof! |
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 08:21
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SMELLS LIKE
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( little but efeective piece of sh*t.... LIVE AID is sh*tty to the tenth power)Posted By: koolboee cdmo87
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 08:33
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It's not going to happen. Roger Waters has become friends again with his other two bandmates but the feud between he and Dave Gilmour is still going on. The four of them reunited for a performance of "Great Gig in the Sky" for Steve O'Rourke's funeral, but that was to pay tribute to the manager that made them so successful in the first place. I'd be pleasantly surprised if it happened, though! |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 09:32
| Don't underestimte Bob Geldof's pursuavive powers. He got 'Led Zep' to reform for the last 'Live Aid' and that was no easy feat! |
Posted By: koolboee cdmo87
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 11:17
| Led Zeppelin's situation was much different. They felt (and still do) feel wrong performing as Led Zeppelin without their true drummer. HATRED is what is keeping Waters and Gilmour apart. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 12:28
I hope with all my heart this is going to happen. Smells like heaven to me
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 12:28
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According to Pink Floyd's management, there is no way that they will be playing Live Aid together as a group... Course he didn't say that David wouldn't do it.... You guys had to know this was crap... Roger wouldn't even go to Steve O'Rourke's funeral and play a few notes of Wish You Were Here with the guys on last time... ------------- THIS IS ELP 
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 12:29
Rick Wright and Roger are not friends... and only the three (Rick, Dave and Nick) were at Steve's funeral! No Roger ------------- THIS IS ELP
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koolboee cdmo87 wrote:Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 13:09
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Roger Waters is such a dick end of story. They don't need him anyway, at least to perform and tour, he wasn't a great bassist. ------------- 
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 13:16
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but when they arent a full unit they are terrible. EVERY album that has roger, rick, dave and nick on falls in the 3 star and most usually above category everything with one of those band members missing deserves 2 stars or less in my opinion. I doubt if PF reformed without roger i wont see them, it will be PULSE2, things can only get worse. It's better if they just let the band die once and for all so they wont taint Pink Floyd with anymore bad records or performances. ------------- The Worthless Recluse 
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 13:23
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Sorry Frenchie... don't agree. The Division Bell is one of my top 3 PF albums. They didn't need Roger... actually AMLOR is in my top 5 PF albums... And you've got to be kidding about Pulse. Thats probably after WBMF's as the second best live album ever made.... That version of Comfortably Numb is enough to make you want to drop to the ground and start pounding your fists to the music... and Delicate Sound of Thunder is right behind that... best sound and production on a live cd I've ever heard...and "On the Turning Away".. is just perfect enough to make you want to cry!! ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Alfi
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 13:24
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I don't think that Division Bell is such a bad album. In fact it is one
of my favourites out of the PF-catalogue. Though I have to admit that
it doesn't sound very Pink Floydish because the depressing touch of
Roger is missing (but the Wall had enough of that for me so I think
it's a good thing) P.S. Momentary Lapse of Reason is really BAD though |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 13:30
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No its not... its got some of David Gilmour's best guitar work... and how can that be bad. First its got "Sorrow".... David blows that away... then "Not Another Movie"... David's guitar makes you float right thru it... Then there's "On the Turning Away"... a perfect song, no matter what you say... THe only song on AMLOR that isn't up to par is "Dogs of War"... but on the live cd "DSOT"... Dave turns that into one of the coolest they ever did... and his voice actually comes alive. Its great... maybe you had to see that live to know what I mean!! ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Alfi
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 13:47
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Maybe I should give the album another listen. |
Posted By: lucky seven
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 13:48
 AAARRRGH !!!Pulse and Momentary lapse of reason are NOT Pink Floyd These albums are a pale copy of what they used to do in their "moments of glory" but who can say that Animals, Wish you were here or The Wall are "under" Division bell ???  Pink Floyd is Waters, Wright, Gilmour and Mason (and of course Barrett), the band should have died after The Wall (yeah, The final cut sounds like a Waters solo project  )OF COURSE THEY NEED ROGER WATERS, HE'S BEEN MISSING FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS !!!  |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 13:50
| I also think the two post-Roger Water's albums are poor. David Gilmour is not a prolific songwriter as his two solo albums also proved. TDB & MLOR are poor Gilmour solo albums IMHO [Sorry, but I can't consider them Pink Floyd albums]! |
Posted By: lucky seven
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 13:57
Right, Progger !  What made PF a great band was the fusion of the four elements, and Waters was one of them... |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 14:05
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You people have Roger on the brain... and unfortunately you let it rule. THe Division Bell is a lot better than "The Wall"... there's only a few songs on The Wall that are great.. and the rest is just filler or therapy for Roger... Its not all that great of an album. The Final Cut.. is the worst PF album ever... which we all know is a Roger solo album... Then there's Roger's solo albums.. You can't listen to the words to The Division Bell... which spell out like a history of the PF saga and tell me that because they aren't as dark or brooding as Rogers.. they aren't as good. Personally my favorite Floyd albums go:
And having Rick's sound back on TDB made it sound a lot more Floydian than not! ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: lucky seven
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 14:10
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Sure, they're not ! |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 14:10
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I don't have a problem with the lyrics on TDB or MLOR, it's the songs. They are just not up to par with what Roger is capable of. Those two albums are like 'new age' meanderings and the tunes are so weak! I honestly don't know how you can call them PF albums |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 14:42
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Roger is contreversial, that's right and PF without him is rather lame, but still great! On their own they are ok, but as a whole they are magic. Pink Floyd is like The Beatles, meaning none of them are the real thing without all four off them. Like Elvis rockin' n rollin' with just one leg.. |
Posted By: Yams
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 14:42
| The Floyd aren't the same without Roger, love him or hate him, he was a conceptual genius. The Division Bell doesn't compare to Dark Side or WYWH. I've already accepted the fact that the classic Floyd is never going to reunite. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 14:48
...and mine is:
Cheers |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 14:54
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I love TDB and AMLOR as well, but I think the fact that 3f8s slept with DG makes her a little bit biased
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Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 15:11
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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 15:43
I like 'The Final Cut' as well. Would much preferred PF to carry on in that vein rather than the droopy DB & MLOR
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 15:52
Roger never had any songs... that was always Dave. Roger couldn't even play his bass properly... Dave had to record most of the bass parts on the studio albums himself... Thats why Roger's solo albums have never really gone anywhere.... cause he can't write the songs... ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 15:59
Is that true about the bass parts ? Is this common knowledge or your special inside information? |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 16:02
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Biased about David maybe... but not the sound. Every time I hear David do that opening to "Coming Back to Life"... or "Time", "Dogs", "SOYCD" or the guitar solos of 'Comfortabley Numb" or "Sorrow" or "Marooned"... thats Floyd to me. I like it when his guitar pulls the heart right out of my chest!! And I just can't stand Roger's voice... it sounds like an old american miner panning for gold in the 1840s... Someone should call him "Gabby"
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 16:03
Its common knowledge. Roger also never played the fretless bass... that was David also. ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 16:06
Oooh yes he can write songs, again what a bullsh*t! Anyone who can write something like 'The Wall' is a genius.... His solo albums are great, both musically and lyricly..... .I look very much forward to his new Opera Ca Ira and his new studio album which he may release in 2006. Just my opinion....... Linda: Do you like Waters at all? |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 16:17
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I like Waters when he was at his best... from Meddle to the Animals period. When he got all into himself.. and starting trying to control the Floyd... I think their music started to decline. I think the Wall is basically overrated.. and that Animals was a much better concept album. I can't even listen thru TFC... the only song I can tolerate from that album is "Fletcher".. I own 2 Roger Water's solo albums... I don't like either of them. The newest Roger songs.. "Leaving Beirut" and "To Kill the Child"... I found very boring. In regard to Ca Ira: This was reported on one of his websites recently.. Former Pink Floyd leader Roger Waters has completed Ca Ira, his long-awaited opera. After a decade of work on the project, Waters reports that "it's done and delivered" and should be available as a double-CD through Sony Classical this fall. Ca Ira -- loosely translated as "So It Will Be" -- was inspired by the French Revolution and is the latest conceptual work from the mastermind of The Dark Side of the Moon (1973) and The Wall (1979). ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: koolboee cdmo87
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 16:46
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Roger Waters did indeed perform at Steve O'Rourke's funeral. And they didn't play "Wish You Were Here"... David played "Fat Old Sun", and then the rest of the band came on to play "Great Gig in the Sky." And yes, Roger and Rick have reconciled. Rick hasn't done interviews since the Broken China release, but Roger has said in a few interviews that he is in contact with Nick and Rick again, although has no interest in talking to Gilmour. |
Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 17:01
I had always heard those rumors about Dave playing most of the bass parts, but didn't know if they were true or not. However, I have always been certain that Dave played the fretless part on Hey You. Listening to Roger sing, obviously he is somewhat tone-deaf (I love Roger, don't flame me please) and you can't be tone-deaf and play a fretless intsrument (well) .
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 17:45
What planet are you from. NO Roger Waters did not play or even show up at Steve O'Rourke's funeral!! Not only do I know that for a fact... but its been reported over and over again. And no Roger and Rick have not reconciled... if anything Rick is still in therapy and blames it all on Roger... if you want to read about their one and only meeting since the Wall: http://pinkfloydhyperbase.dk/scraps/mojo1299.htm - http://pinkfloydhyperbase.dk/scraps/mojo1299.htm
From Undercover:
Steve O'Rourke dead at 63
Posted by mailto:madhackatpinkfloyd.net - madhack on Nov 15, 2003
Pink Floyd's long-time manager, Steve O'Rourke, has http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/11/05/db0502.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/11/05/ixportal.html - passed away at age 63 . From Brain-Damage Steve O'Rourke, Pink Floyd manager and keen racing driver, sadly passed away in Miami, Florida, USA, in October 2003. From Neptune PF Steve O'Rourke's funeral was held yesterday (14th Nov) at Chichester Cathedral in Sussex, England. As part of the service David Gilmour, Rick Wright and Nick Mason performed two songs as part of the service for their long term manager. Pink Floyd are believed to have performed Fat Old Sun and Great Gig In The Sky. Dick Parry, Floyd's touring saxophonist, played saxophone whilst following behind the coffin. From Okeania · It now appears that early reports that Roger Waters performed with Pink Floyd at Steve O' Rourkes funeral were in fact false, despite this news coming from very reliable sources. Initial reports suggested that Roger Waters was present and reunited with Pink Floyd to play 2 songs. But it now seems that Roger Waters did not even attend the funeral, much less, perform. From the Pink Floyd Hyperbase: Steve O'Rourke sadly died from a stroke in October 2003, 63 years old. According to the site http://www.rogerwatersonline.com/ - Roger Waters Online , Pink Floyd ( http://pinkfloydhyperbase.dk/who/g.htm#david - David Gilmour , http://pinkfloydhyperbase.dk/who/m.htm#mason - Nick Mason and http://pinkfloydhyperbase.dk/who/w.htm#rick - Rick Wright ) performed two songs at Steve O'Rourke's funeral in Chichester Cathedral. The songs were http://pinkfloydhyperbase.dk/albums/atom.htm#FAT_OLD_SUN - Fat Old Sun and http://pinkfloydhyperbase.dk/albums/dark.htm#THE_GREAT_GIG_IN_THE_SKY - The Great Gig in the Sky. From the PF official site Steve O'Rourkes Funeral
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 17:50
couldn't have said it better!!! I 100% agree. The Wall was the last amazing album. PULSE is terrible, it sounds more like a jazzed up version of floyd, too overblown, dont be distracte by the amazing visuals of the live show. The songs are played with no energy, and these god annoying extra musicians keep taking the spotlight. The tracklist is bad too, the only good thing to see is how dark side has evolved from the studio album. The choir singers arr rubbish too, too many of them. Crazy Diamond is promising at the begining but the choir totally ruin the chorus. ADSOT is even worse! Comfortably Numb on their sounds like 80s cheese synth rock! The solo is still good. Pink Floyd (1980-1995) = ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 17:55
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Your PULSE cd has amazing visuals and a live show... cause mine only has a blinking light that stopped ages ago??? Actually the choir thing is the only thing I can agree with you on. I never like backup singers whether PF or ELP... but sorry... the playing on both those live albums is smoking... David said that the best he ever played CN was on TDB tour, May 19, 1994 in Louisana I beleive... I'm still looking for that boot, if anyone has ever seen it... ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 17:57
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here's how i rate floyd albums: WITH FULL LINEUP (exluding syd): piper = amazing asos = amazing more = very good ummagumma = incredible atom heart mother = amazing meddle = incredible obscured by clouds = good, but not great Dark Side of the Moon = incredible wish you were here = incredible animals = amazing the wall = amazing WITHOUT FULL LINEUP is there anybody out there? = very good (the only commendable thing) the final cut = atrocious! a momentary lapse of reason = very bad a delicate sound of thunder = very bad the division bell = very bad PULSE = very bad ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 17:59
i meant the video, the live album is just as bad though. you dont get to see any amazing visuals unless you look through the booklet, those who have it on mp3 only are screwed! ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:03
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Thats why I love it... it requires no visuals and no booklets... it just requires listening to. The sound of magic in the air... You ever driven long distance at night in a car with Marooned playing... its mystical! ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: koolboee cdmo87
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:32
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I know of the ITF incident you brought up, in 1999. My sources are from 2003. One is Rolling Stone, and the other is... I don't know, some German interview. Both took place for the DSOTM SACD release. I knew you would cite RogerWatersOnline as your source denying that he attended, I have no idea why they did that. So a lot of sites took their word. But PFCO, who are in direct contact with David and company, confirmed that Roger was indeed there. |
Posted By: laztraz
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:40
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Has anyone heard a Pink Floyd cover band called Several Species. Really good if you get a chance to see them.
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Posted By: transend
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:45
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Back to the subject at hand, however. Mr. Geldof has apparently said "over my dead body" about doing another live aid. Shame, it would be good, would make so much more $$ and would likely be better sounding (the original had some seriously dubiuous sound mixes that were cleaned up in the DVD) and be better organized, since the original was very 'spur of the moment'. Roger, is undoubtably a genious, but also a big head. That often comes with the territory of genius. Any PF reunion would COMPLETELY hinge on him. I am certain the others would do it in a heartbeat, because they have already opened themselves to him a bit. (Mason played with him, Rick met him, Dave invited him to play DSOTM live in '94) So I believe Mr. Waters has to shrug off the animosity himself. It seems unlikely but impossible, that pretty much concurs with what Nick Mason says in the final chapter of his new book. A great read, by the way. My fave Floyd album: Animals. Then: Any bootlleg of the '77 tour with Animals & Wish you were here played in there entireties with all the jamming in the songs! Wonderful. Yeah, there will never be another PF. Hope they play together once more time at least. |
Posted By: koolboee cdmo87
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:51
| Actually, Gilmour is keeping the post-Waters Floyd apart too. He's the one that doesn't want to get together with Rick and Nick and make another album, both Rick and Nick have said that. |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:53
Because Phil knows that Roger wasn't there.. thats why he did it...Uh... I spoke to quite a few people who attended that funeral.. and believe me Roger was not there. Whatever sources you have, I've got a feeling mine are better... and I know that Rick in not on good terms with Roger. Also at the opening for Storms art show in London months ago, Rick showed up and when someone asked about a reunion with Roger, Rick laughed and walked off... his son-in-law, Guy Pratt said "Never happen". ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:57
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And yes, Nick would like to do a Pink Floyd album with Dave and Rick.. and Dave is the one who's not keen on that. However, I've also heard that Rick is not keen on doing it also.. so basically its Nick that would like to do that. When I asked Nick last month about the rumor that Dave may turn this solo album he's working on into a Floyd album... Nick said that he had heard that rumor also, but neither he nor Rick had been approached by Dave about it as of then. Now I hear that Dave has hired some technicians from Poland to work on this album. Personally I'm just glad he's working on something... ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Yams
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 21:09
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Gilmour said he'd need to take two years out of his life to record
another Floyd album, and there wouldn't be a tour without an album. Instead of giving in to all these rumors, it's more safe to say that The Floyd aren't going to get back together any time soon. |
Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 04:58
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A Reunion would be nice, But at the end of the day unlikely to happen.
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 05:04
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Floyd w/o Waters is a Gilmour solo act....and Waters w/o the Floyd is a nostalgia act. Floyd is dead....long live the Floyd! ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: Harlequin
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 17:59
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4087578.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4087578.stm ------------- Information is not knowledge Knowledge is not wisdom Wisdom is not truth Truth is not beauty Beauty is not love Love is not music Music is the best... |
Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 19:42
Hell wrong. David Gilmour as solo goes in a complete different direction. Listen to FLoyd w/out Gimlour and his solo efforts. It is painfully obvious AMLOR & TDB are indeed PINKFLOYD ALBUMS.
How come none of you guys argue Floyd is dead w/out Syd? Like it or not something of value was lost when Gilmour took over (not to say Gilmour didn't bring his own brilliance). |
Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 19:47
Nope. Heard of Wish You Were Here: The Sight & Sound of Pink Floyd"? I'll be seeing them on saturday |