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Topic: question regarding genres
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: question regarding genres
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 11:31
Okey this is probably the wrong section but I will not bother evryone with it but maybe can be moved to genreal music.

i just wonder what is the differnces between the terminology(genere Folk Music and World Music? i probably know it and I sertanly have my perception on it but then it hits my is my local Norwegian tradional music or folk music like world music for a person from f.eks in Japan or Marocco or will Japanese folk music be regarded as world music in Norway. what is the basic differnt.

my narrow perseption is that it is more drums/percussion and rythmic instruments in world music while in folk music Fiddles, flutes and accordions is dominant (again my narrow first impression), but then again that is probably wrong beacouse there is also drums in tradional folk music (nor particularly the rock style but tradd folk), and melodic instruments in world music
one eksemple localy will be that the Sami music will both be seen as Folk music and World music

but my question i repeat again what marks the difference

so pleas enlighten me Lamp



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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 12:03
I may be wrong, but I think the difference is that folk music usually refers to traditional folk music while world music is contemporary music in the style of or heavily influenced by traditional folk music.


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 12:46
I always thought of world as non-Western folk music, while folk music is Western. So even though I live the US, British or German is folk music, while China is world. It's a very ethnocentric way to label things, but it is useful as a catch all for traditional music that doesn't fit Western norms.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 12:49
I would go with Wikipedia's general description: "World music is the traditional music or folk music of a culture that is created and played by indigenous musicians that is closely related to the music of the regions of their origin"
 
The other way of looking at it is World Music is everybody else's music - ie the music played by people (folk) who are not from the region where you live.


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 14:13
okey thanks Thumbs Up (it's verry nice too get different perspectives and variasions on this, since it is not verry eacy to describe this)

by the way I heard some Paul Simon songs on a cafè today and I love his mix of vestern pop/rock with world music instrumentation, he has some interesting songs like the hit You can be my Bodygard (or something) great funky/jazz influenced bass and some african rythems. (almost jazz (fusion) related). i think he actualy is the finest example of western musican that incorporate world music.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 14:25
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

okey thanks Thumbs Up (it's verry nice too get different perspectives and variasions on this, since it is not verry eacy to describe this)

by the way I heard some Paul Simon songs on a cafè today and I love his mix of vestern pop/rock with world music instrumentation, he has some interesting songs like the hit You can be my Bodygard (or something) great funky/jazz influenced bass and some african rythems. (almost jazz (fusion) related). i think he actualy is the finest example of western musican that incorporate world music.

You Can Call Me Al i ment Big smile




Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 18:29
As Dean says, nowadays all 'ethnic' music tends to be called 'world music'. I have a book (in Italian) about 'the best 100 world music albums', which includes everything from English folk-rock bands like The Pentangle to African and Siberian artists. 


Posted By: Clijsters
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 18:54
this is boring


Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 09:59
Thanks for the input Clijsters. Maybe you could find something more exciting for you elsewhere in the forum.Wink 
 
Meanwhile, best to avoid posting in this one.


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 10:15

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

As Dean says, nowadays all 'ethnic' music tends to be called 'world music'. I have a book (in Italian) about 'the best 100 world music albums', which includes everything from English folk-rock bands like The Pentangle to African and Siberian artists. 

Have to say that many artists from this category were associated with Peter Gabriel's label, or at least I suppose.

Afrocelts being quite accessible, while ... Siberian as you said, I know one group of Siberian drunken shamans, called Yat-kha

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yat-Kha - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yat-Kha



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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 10:53
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I always thought of world as non-Western folk music, while folk music is Western. So even though I live the US, British or German is folk music, while China is world. It's a very ethnocentric way to label things, but it is useful as a catch all for traditional music that doesn't fit Western norms.
 
mmm... and where do you put the Andean music or the "Son" music that is very common in Mexico and Central America...??? those are Western cultures but very different to Europe so... where do you put those, as World music or folk music...???
 
I call folk music like Deans definition... music based on indians or natives estructures, instruments and sounds... world music is foreign music played else where...


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 11:01
^ yes, by definition Cornish Folk music (England/UK) is World Music to you, but folk music to me.

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Posted By: redorchid
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 11:23
I may be wrong but I thought Folk music as something that inherits the specific regional instruments and style.  On the other hand world music involves such ethnic instruments but also reaches outside to other cultures. For example, Prem Joshua (google) does a lot of world music.. as you may see he crosses boundaries by combining Indian classical music with Reggae, disco and what not.
 


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