Tuatha de Danann - Metal Prog?
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Topic: Tuatha de Danann - Metal Prog?
Posted By: octopus-4
Subject: Tuatha de Danann - Metal Prog?
Date Posted: January 22 2010 at 10:06
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This brasilian group has 3 full length albums, a couple of promo and 1 DVD. They are not easy to classify into a genre, as they are mainly a fusion of Metal and Celtic. However, I think they can fit well in the Progressive Metal section as I see many contact points with some Ayreon works. Their second album, "The Delirium Has Just Begun" is IMO their best thing, but all the 3 are very nice. Their mixture of acoustic guitars, flute, violin with heavy bass, distorted guitars and sometimes growl are unique. A reference may be the Ayreon's "Loser", but if you pay them enough attention, you can find gems like "Brazuzan", "Bella Natura" and "Abracadabra". I think they are more than "prog related". recently Bruno Raia, the frontman has published a solo album (as Braia) that he has defined as "Progressive", but I didn't listen to it yet.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 09:29
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I believe that this is a link to the suggested band's website. http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tuathadedanann.com.br%2F&lp=pt_en&.intl=us&fr=chr-yie8 - http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tuathadedanann.com.br%2F&lp=pt_en&.intl=us&fr=chr-yie8 It was in Portuguese, but if this worked right babelfish translated it to English. And here is a link to their MySpace page. http://www.myspace.com/tuathadedanann - http://www.myspace.com/tuathadedanann------------- 
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 09:36
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Added to the Progressive Metal chart for evaluation. ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 13:26
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This is what we call celtic metal. This is not prog. If you like this band check out french bands Aes Dana and Heol Telwenn.------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 06 2010 at 04:01
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I think at least some songs are prog e.g. brazuzan, but it doesn't matter so much. Thank you for the French bands. I'm about to try Aes Dana first (alphabetical order). |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 27 2010 at 07:19
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Just a quick feedback after gibing a try to Aes Dana, Heol Telwen and Amon Amarth. They are al Celic and Metal, but none of them is in my pot. I still think that Tuatha de Danann are different. They have progressive parts that the three mentioned groups don't have at all. The biiggest difference is that those Celtic Metal or Pagan bands are all very dark while Tuatha De Danann music is solar, maybe because they are brasilian. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 08:39
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I have spotted on Progfreak that this band is still being discussed. Can anybody explain what this graph means? It seems that 2 months ago they were cleared but 17 days ago they went back into discussion?
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(MartyMcFly89)Posted By: cacha71
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 06:34
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I think that Octopus_4 is right. They should be considered for inclusion. In particular the album "The Delerium Has Just Begun" has many elements that can be described as progressive - extended compositions with musical complexity, frequent time changes, and a good deal of innovation which one does not usually find in straightforward celtic metal. Granted some albums are more progressive than others, but IMHO "The Delerium Has Just Begun" and "Tuatha De Danann" have very strong progressive elements.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 31 2011 at 09:16
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I've seen on Progfreak that TdD have been definitevly rejected, so unless there's room for them in the prog-folk section (and I don't think) I think we can close the thread. I "feel" them as a prog band but I'm happy enough to have raised the discussion (lost 5 to 3). There's already enough stuff to review on PA. Thanks anyway. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: May 31 2011 at 09:27
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Could someone call the Prog Folk Team? I think they deserve a place on PA.
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: May 31 2011 at 10:05
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This is a metal band that has been evaluated and rejected by the Prog Metal Team. If we would have thought they weren't Metal but maybe Prog Folk we would have passed them on to the Prog Folk Team already. |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: May 31 2011 at 16:01
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meh, too bad they were rejected. They are a very interesting band nevertheless.
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Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: May 31 2011 at 21:46
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Hey guys, just pass this band to the Folk Team... let's see what they think.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 01 2011 at 07:18
| Well the Prog Folk Team said they're willing to give this band a chance if the PMT doesn't want them, so I'll notify the PF team. |
Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: June 01 2011 at 09:02
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VICTORY! ...For now. ------------- "Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen) |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: June 01 2011 at 09:04
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Nobody wins or loses. It's a fun. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: June 01 2011 at 11:09
^  !
------------- "Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen) |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 10:45
It's more a fun when we have a response within 6 months  ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 10:50
^ ------------- "Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen) |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 21:58
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In the case of a band such as this, who show so much variety in their material & are hard to accurately categorize, I think that the important thing is not to worry so much about WHO has them, but more about making sure that SOMEONE has them! Their style, varied as it was even in the beginning, has changed to a certain extent during the course of their development over the four released titles between 1999 and 2004. Their first (demo) album is a mixture of some old songs from two earlier EPs and new material, switching between delicate Celtic folk passages and much heavier material with occasional death metal growls - in places even within the same song! Their second is similar but with all new material, & is a far more polished production. The third introduces even more variety and complexity into the song-writing and musicianship, a development which is continued yet further with their fourth and final release (so far). The band's 2009 DVD is esentially a set of "acoustic" versions of a selection their songs from their four studio albums. They have opened for bands such as Nightwish and Blind Guardian, and played the Wacken Open Air festival in 2005. I guess the problem is that they have their feet firmly anchored in two widely contrasting camps, and it seems that neither is going to be keen to accept them (& indeed prog metal team have already said "no"). I'm going to post a few YouTube vids now which show the band live in both electric and acoustic mode, as well as a couple of studio album tracks. Songs from all four albums are featured here. This is a highly skilled and much respected bunch of musicians, whose music, whatever else it may be, is certainly progressive for the most part. I had never listened to them until I saw this thread on here, a sad omission from my musical curriculum vitae, I feel - so thanks to octopus-4 for introducing them to us. I would like to see them included on here somewhere, and I hope all possible efforts are made to do so.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 01:57
If you like them so much I have also suggested the frontman "Braia" who has released a solo album in 2009 that he defines "progressive". ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 15:14
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Seems that Braia is more likely to be added here than Tuatha de Dannan.
------------- "Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen) |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 15:21
| They are approved, maybe Luca wants to prepare the addition? |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 15:39
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Topic: Tuatha de Danann - Metal Prog? Posted: 22 January 2010 at 17:06 It was quick  ...I have written some bios but it's the first addition since when I've been promoted so I don't know exactly where to click. Let me try tomorrow morning (CET) in case I have probloems I'll PM somebody... Effectively Braia is the "prog soul" of the band. This is what he says, but I've listened only to the few samples on youtube. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 15:49
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You can write the bio and post it in the Prog Folk Team thread.
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 17:13
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Bruno's 2008 solo album (as Braia) was called "...E O Mundo De La", and hasn't got any metal in it at all. Pure folk rock, with both male and female vocals, & sung in Portuguese. He played several instruments on it himself, but there were many guest musicians involved too. All 10 tracks from the album are on YouTube - you'll find them by going to this link http://www.youtube.com/user/WeenaMorlocc#p/u" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/WeenaMorlocc#p/u and scrolling down the list of 28 posted videos, but here's a couple of the songs just to give you a feel... Maybe the prog folk team can decide from these whether to evaluate him as a solo artist too - the short instumental passage between around 2.45 and 3.06 in the second sample is about as close to there being any metal in this album as you get.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 24 2011 at 17:21
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However Tuatha De Danann are now on PA http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6713" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6713 ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: September 24 2011 at 17:42
Since they are now on Prog-Folk this thread will be locked. ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |