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Topic: Most overhyped movies.
Posted By: alphawave10
Subject: Most overhyped movies.
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 20:24
More fun. How many movies have you heard are the dogs bollocks...watched them and thought....what the f&^%.
Well heres the thing to get it of your mind.
 
Mine are ......Titanic...the worst acing Di Caprio will ever do and the blue whale stuck on the wood (sorry it's Winslett { i need a more important husband than i do now}) A romper of a piece of bollocks ever...much better movies with crappy graphics than this one, my fvourite has Kenneth More in it.
 
Silence of the Lambs...where to start.....If oly Hopkins ahd watched brian Cox play Lector this might not have been so comical.
 
The Memphis Belle...stuff historical fact let's make it up as we go along....especially the ending...........
 
Shaun of the Dead.........what was this piece of turkey all about.....still waiting for a laugh.
 
Then teh Austin Powers trilogy....how garbage can a man get........................sheer undiluted crap.
Rob Roy....not one accent worth a f**k belonging to Scotland....why are Scots accents all badly done.
 
 
So people have a gripe....and if you think this is negativity...this site is not big enough for the positives...Aliens to Ben Hur, It's a Wonderful Life to 2001...so many great movies...but so many worse.....tell me your bad movies.
Oh yeah The Great Escape....i could watch that ever day for life.



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 20:34
for me it would be Wayne's World, Ray, and Gladiator was OK but winning best picture over Crouching Tiger,Hidden Dragon was a crime   









Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:33
Avatar, anybody? That movie was so wrapped up in its visual effects that it forgot to add a plot, script, and characters. Granted, it was a cool 3D experience....although Roger Dean should be getting royalties.

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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:36
ANY movie that's based on a MARVEL comic; yes, including the Spiderman movies. 

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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:37
Shawshank,Dark Knight & Avatar

Enjoyable but never changed my life.


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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:43
Donnie Darko  is atrocious I don't understand what people like about it.

American Beauty is really overrated, and The Godfather as well.

I just saw Goodfellas because I was convinced I wouldn't like it. I really enjoyed it, but I would still say it's overrated. So much damn voiceover. 


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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:45
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks The Godfather is fairly overrated.  

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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:46
Titanic
The Spirit
Jurassic Park

Although I've only seen bits of it:

Pearl Harbor

And one I haven't seen but don't want to:

U-571


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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:47
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks The Godfather is fairly overrated.  


Any film that is supposed to be the best film in the world is overrated


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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:49
Plus Avatar looks atrocious as well but I haven't seen it, so I cannot comment.

James Cameron isn't very good though.  I don't much like Terminator either.


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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:49
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was nonsense.
 
The Godfather is pretty f**king great. However, I didn't enjoy Part II that much so I guess that was overhyped. I've seen parts of Titanic and Donnie Darko and they were awful, so I guess that counts.


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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:50
 I have never sat through any of the Godfather films- every part I see is fairly slow and boring.



Here is a HUGE one:


SCARFACE-


Terrible.


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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:51
Yeah scarface

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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:51
OH MAN, NOT A SLOW MOVIE! WHERE ARE THE EXPLOSIONS? ;-)

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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:53
Que every Michael Bay film

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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:53
I have more trouble with explosions.  Hence why I dislike Terminator.  It's a completely pointless film.

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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:54
How about Star Wars, Episode 1?

I don't know about Avatar, none of us have ever seen anything like that- visually speaking, of course


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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:55
I enjoyed the 1st Transformers flick, the 2nd was a complete Joke. 

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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 22:55
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

How about Star Wars, Episode 1?

I don't know about Avatar, none of us have ever seen anything like that- visually speaking, of course


I am legend? LOL The effects were horrible.




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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:02
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was nonsense.
 
The Godfather is pretty f**king great. However, I didn't enjoy Part II that much so I guess that was overhyped. I've seen parts of Titanic and Donnie Darko and they were awful, so I guess that counts.

It's still a good movie. I've just seen so many that absolutely dominate it.

Forgot to mention Edward Scissorhands and everything Tim Burton has done.


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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:02
Listen, I'm not going to watch Avatar, but you can't say the effects look horrible when it's the most expensive movie ever made.
 
With regards to Episode One, this is one of the greatest things I have ever seen. Not that I watched the whole thing, but knowing that it's there makes me feel warm.
You can go to the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI - page if you want to watch all 70 minutes, I'm not going to embed all of them.


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:04
Jurassic Park, but don't hate it, simply don't like the plot and all.
 
Can't think of any else right now, so far all the ones named here I pretty much liked, specially Star Wars I, the Austin Powers trilogy and Wayne's World are ace, Titanic and Gladiator are epic, Pearl Harbor pretty good and I am Legend also, though I prefer 30 days or however it is called.


Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:04
I wasn't commenting on the effects, Henners.

I've seen reviews of the film that show more than just snippets.  It just doesn't really do much for me.  Maybe if I see it, I'll be surprised though.

Anyhow, back on track:

Independence Day
War of the Worlds

Actually, pretty much anything with Tom Cruise in.


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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:06
Whoa dawg he was in Eyes Wide Shut so you should qualify that statement. 

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:07
Tom Cruise is an incredibly overrated actor, so it follows that mostly everything he's in is probably overrated.  I was especially disappointed with War of the Worlds, though, because I would have preferred if they hadn't updated it to fit the times. 

Edit: I haven't seen Eyes Wide Shut yet, but keep in mind that I said mostly everything. Wink


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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:07
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Jurassic Park, but don't hate it, simply don't like the plot and all.
 
Can't think of any else right now, so far all the ones named here I pretty much liked, specially Star Wars I, the Austin Powers trilogy and Wayne's World are ace, Titanic and Gladiator are epic, Pearl Harbor pretty good and I am Legend also, though I prefer 30 days or however it is called.


Pearl Harbor is a complete fallacy.  A lot of what happened in that film was made up.

Tora! Tora! Tora! is much more accurate.

And even if you ignore the historical inaccuracies it's still a turd of a film.

I enjoy Wayne's World but Bill and Ted is much better.


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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:08
I liked Minority Report, even though it may or may not have made sense. Also, Collateral was pretty good.
 
I wasn't talking about the effects to you, coz was smack-talking the 3D glory.


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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:08
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Whoa dawg he was in Eyes Wide Shut so you should qualify that statement. 


Not seen it.

But:

Top Gun
Cocktail
War of the Worlds

Dead

Oh and that silly Baseball thing he was in.



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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:09
Yeah he's still terrible, but he was in one godly movie where he did an alright job. 

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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:09
Oh and anything with Mel Gibson in.

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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:10
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Jurassic Park, but don't hate it, simply don't like the plot and all.
 
Can't think of any else right now, so far all the ones named here I pretty much liked, specially Star Wars I, the Austin Powers trilogy and Wayne's World are ace, Titanic and Gladiator are epic, Pearl Harbor pretty good and I am Legend also, though I prefer 30 days or however it is called.


Pearl Harbor is a complete fallacy.  Most of what happened in that film was made up.

Tora! Tora! Tora! is much more accurate.

And even if you ignore the historical inaccuracies it's still a turd of a film.

I enjoy Wayne's World but Bill and Ted is much better.
 
Haven't seen Bill and Ted neither Tora! Tora! Tora!. Anyways, I saw Pearl Harbor long time ago, so I'm based on an old assumption. The same goes for Independence Day, Mars Attack and Twister, three movies I used to watch very often when I was a little kid.


Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:12
Oh, I saw Twister once... hahahahaha.

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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:14
Anaconda.

Although I don't think that film was hyped in the first place. LOL


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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:23
Pearl Harbour
Bad boys I & II
Armageddon
Transformers I & II

And a lot of Speilberg


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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:24
Full Metal Jacket

I actually turn it over when it was on and it was really not doing anything for me.


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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:24
Interesting topic.  Here's some of my thoughts:

The Matrix- I absolutely hated it when I first saw it.  It grew on me slightly, but still failed to live up to the hype.  I saw the sequel in the theaters and don't have any fond memories.

The Pirates of The Caribbean- I have only seen the first one, but it just didn't appeal to me.

I can agree with those who mentioned Scarface.  It's an interesting watch, but I prefer Carlito's Way (same star and director I believe).





Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:27
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Listen, I'm not going to watch Avatar, but you can't say the effects look horrible when it's the most expensive movie ever made.
 
With regards to Episode One, this is one of the greatest things I have ever seen. Not that I watched the whole thing, but knowing that it's there makes me feel warm.
You can go to the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI - page if you want to watch all 70 minutes, I'm not going to embed all of them.


Hilarious video!


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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:29
I really did not enjoy the Blair Witch Project, despite so many people describe it as great film.
I found the story which it's based on quite frightening and mysterious, though I don't think the film does it any good. The ending was hilarious as well I think.


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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 23:31
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Full Metal Jacket

I actually turn it over when it was on and it was really not doing anything for me.

I would suggest you edit this post. 


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Posted By: Luca Pacchiarini
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 07:01
Love Actually Ermm


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 07:42
Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

Any film that is supposed to be the best film in the world is overrated


Quoted for wisdom.

Also I can't see why Godfather II is better than Godfather I, either.

Mu own pick: American Beauty.


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 08:09
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

 I have never sat through any of the Godfather films- every part I see is fairly slow and boring.



Here is a HUGE one:


SCARFACE-


Terrible.

most of the movies I like are VERY slow, and I don't consider them to be boring at all. I don't need fast-paced action. there are exceptions to this rule; I really enjoyed "Lola rennt" ("Run, Lola, run"), and that one is quite a fast-paced movie. but still movies like "Rashomon", "M", "Don't Look Now!" or "De Wisselwachter", which are very slow-paced, are much better than "Lola rennt"


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 08:27
Twilight

/thread


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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 08:41
lol I haven't even seen Donnie Darko

I'm not interested at all to react to popular overhyping, I see no joy in saying Twilight is the stupidest phenomenon happening in our days - and such. So I'll go with critical overhyping. Strictly Hollywood and its main awards, I'll mention Brokeback Mountain, Gladiator, Titanic, The English Patient. 1995, with things like Braveheart, Babe and Apollo 13, was a hilarious year for acknowledgements.

It also seems there's a rule indicating how bad or dissapointing movies will be based on how many nominations they got (9+, films rarely get more than that, in recent times, anyway). The Return Of The King's clean sweep was by far the most atrocious and discouraging event in film criticism, this decade. But I'll also mention that 2006 was a bit of a Scorsese bloodshed; as a Babel fan, I didn't like that.

I could go further, before the 90s, but I'll save that for another post or an update to this one.

P.S.: Haven't seen American Beauty in 6 years, but I remember laughing with tears to it.


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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 09:30
Interesting. The OP asks for the most over-hyped movie and people merely post about films they don't like.

I guess that over-hyped really means that there was general critical and popular acclaim but you as an individual could see no merit in it but in this sense it means movies where the trailer contained all the "best" bits I guess. No one could genuinely think that The Godfather was a bad movie.Ermm

2012 (absolutely atrocious, lazy film-making and bad science)
The Day After Tomorrow (see above)
The Star Wars Prequels (urinating on a favourite childhood memory)
Transformers (even the lowest common denominator should feel insulted by the stilted dialogue and 1D characters)





Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 09:41
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Interesting. The OP asks for the most over-hyped movie and people merely post about films they don't like.

I guess that over-hyped really means that there was general critical and popular acclaim but you as an individual could see no merit in it but in this sense it means movies where the trailer contained all the "best" bits I guess. No one could genuinely think that The Godfather was a bad movie.Ermm

2012 (absolutely atrocious, lazy film-making and bad science)
The Day After Tomorrow (see above)

The Star Wars Prequels (urinating on a favourite childhood memory)
Transformers (even the lowest common denominator should feel insulted by the stilted dialogue and 1D characters)





I agree with all these and for these reasons.  I thought the Star Wars prequels were okay.

And speaking of ruined childhood memories, Transformers was atrocious for so many incredibly stupid reasons.

And for the record, I am not remotely attracted to this:


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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 12:08
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Twilight

/thread


ftw.

along with Twilght:New Moon


Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 12:15
2001: A Space Odyssey


(ducks and runs)


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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 13:04
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

2001: A Space Odyssey


(ducks and runs)
Simply genius. The one movie besides Eraserhead that I can watch over and over. 

Both films  dliberately left open for interpretation. 

This new Sherlock Holmes movie looks like a lot of shlock. Give me Jeremy Brett any day. It seems that they're trying to turn Holmes into James Bond. But I haven't seen it so I can't talk but a friend of mine did and he said it wasn't for purists such as myself. 

I think that this Avatar thing will join Titanic on my never seen  and never will see list.  


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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 13:07
I watched it stone sober and was absolutely bored to death  (2001) 

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 13:20
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

 I have never sat through any of the Godfather films- every part I see is fairly slow and boring.



Here is a HUGE one:


SCARFACE-


Terrible.

most of the movies I like are VERY slow, and I don't consider them to be boring at all. I don't need fast-paced action. there are exceptions to this rule; I really enjoyed "Lola rennt" ("Run, Lola, run"), and that one is quite a fast-paced movie. but still movies like "Rashomon", "M", "Don't Look Now!" or "De Wisselwachter", which are very slow-paced, are much better than "Lola rennt"


I agree, slower paced movies are often the ones which really get me.  2001 is a particular example, at first when I watched it I wasn't sure whether I liked it or not, now it's jumped to be among my top 3 movies.  The movie is allowed to display more of a story if it's not overridden with explosions and battle scenes.


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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 13:35
2001 is a great film, I'm not an elitist or anything, but I know that that is not something everyone wants to see when they watch a movie. note: I love Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite.

Hmm, overhyped movies. I would have to say that a lot of movies are overhyped nowadays, Transformers in particular for me. I liked somewhat it in theaters before I had time to really analyze it, and I'm sure it looked a lot better on the big screen, but ever since my dad got the dvd I have hated it.


Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 13:36
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Tom Cruise is an incredibly overrated actor, so it follows that mostly everything he's in is probably overrated.  I was especially disappointed with War of the Worlds, though, because I would have preferred if they hadn't updated it to fit the times. 

Edit: I haven't seen Eyes Wide Shut yet, but keep in mind that I said mostly everything. Wink
Don't worry, you're right. EWS has moments, but wimps out in the end. Not Cruise's fault, though. It seems Kubrick was done and he didn't know it.
 
Anyway, I agree with most of the posts. I'll add:
Forrest Gump.


Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 13:45
Yes, sorry to be unoriginal but Tom Cruise owes me big time for the hour and a bit  I had to sit through TOPGUN aaaaaagh if it wasn't for who I was with I would have walked out! 
 
(I quite liked Rain Man)
 
The English Patient - Not my type of film I think!.


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 13:45
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I watched it stone sober and was absolutely bored to death  (2001) 

no wonder. your generation has been buried beneath fast-paced blockbusters. you simply can't appreciate a slow tempo. I hate molst modern movies; hardly any director takes the time to really tell a story. it is just one action scene after the other. and that bores me to death


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 13:46
^ Jean, did you like van Sant's Elephant?


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:12
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I watched it stone sober and was absolutely bored to death  (2001) 

no wonder. your generation has been bried beneath fast-paced blockbusters. you simply can't appreciate a slow tempo. I hate molst modern movies; hardly any director takes the time to really tell a story. it is just one action scene after the other. and that bores me to death
Well, yeah,  there's only so many explosions I can handle as well. Here's a favourite quote from Clint Eastwood commenting on the movie True Crime from '99  which he also directs. 

" It's not  the kind of movie they're doing today, you know. It's hampered by having a story. But I think there's somebody out there that appreciates that, so I'll keep trying. "  

Kinda holds true today. I think that this internet and video games has dramatically reduced attention spans.

Run Lola Run was one of my faves. I liked the the way the little animations introduced Lola's frantic runs. Cool cool film. Cool end when Lola's boyfriend asks her what she has in the bag!


 


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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:21
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I watched it stone sober and was absolutely bored to death  (2001) 

That's a shame since it's the best movie ever.


Also, why are movies expected just to entertain, but other works of art are allowed to explore other objectives? 


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:21
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I watched it stone sober and was absolutely bored to death  (2001) 

no wonder. your generation has been bried beneath fast-paced blockbusters. you simply can't appreciate a slow tempo. I hate molst modern movies; hardly any director takes the time to really tell a story. it is just one action scene after the other. and that bores me to death
Well, yeah,  there's only so many explosions I can handle as well. Here's a favourite quote from Clint Eastwood commenting on the movie True Crime from '99  which he also directs. 

" It's not  the kind of movie they're doing today, you know. It's hampered by having a story. But I think there's somebody out there that appreciates that, so I'll keep trying. "  

Kinda holds true today. I think that this internet and video games has dramatically reduced attention spans.

Run Lola Run was one of my faves. I liked the the way the little animations introduced Lola's frantic runs. Cool cool film. Cool end when Lola's boyfriend asks her what she has in the bag!

all molvies have to be seen in their time too. Drew has seen hundred of movies which show space, so he gets bored by it. but Kubrick was the FIRST to do it. and it was said afterwards tthat anyone who wanted to do better had to film on location. Kubrick's movie was a breakthrough and a milestone. "Star Wars" is just a horse opera taken to space, a space opera.
to view a movie, read a book or hear music ouside of the historic context is to miss the point. it's like accusing Johann Sebastian Bach that he never wrote anything for electric guitar or that there are no cars in "Notre-Dame de Paris" by Victor Hugo


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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:24
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I watched it stone sober and was absolutely bored to death  (2001) 

no wonder. your generation has been buried beneath fast-paced blockbusters. you simply can't appreciate a slow tempo. I hate molst modern movies; hardly any director takes the time to really tell a story. it is just one action scene after the other. and that bores me to death


My generation? I'm no teenager

I happen to like a lot of slower paced films, I rarely EVER like "blockbuster" movies.

I have taken two film classes, and fell in love with real films!


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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:24
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I watched it stone sober and was absolutely bored to death  (2001) 

That's a shame since it's the best movie ever.


Also, why are movies expected just to entertain, but other works of art are allowed to explore other objectives? 

You could say the same with music.  Entertainment sells better than art I guess.


Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:32
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I watched it stone sober and was absolutely bored to death  (2001) 

no wonder. your generation has been buried beneath fast-paced blockbusters. you simply can't appreciate a slow tempo. I hate molst modern movies; hardly any director takes the time to really tell a story. it is just one action scene after the other. and that bores me to death


My generation? I'm no teenager

I happen to like a lot of slower paced films, I rarely EVER like "blockbuster" movies.

I have taken two film classes, and fell in love with real films!

lol at the implication of your last statement. 


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:32
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I watched it stone sober and was absolutely bored to death  (2001) 

no wonder. your generation has been buried beneath fast-paced blockbusters. you simply can't appreciate a slow tempo. I hate molst modern movies; hardly any director takes the time to really tell a story. it is just one action scene after the other. and that bores me to death


My generation? I'm no teenager

I happen to like a lot of slower paced films, I rarely EVER like "blockbuster" movies.

I have taken two film classes, and fell in love with real films!

you are 30; I looked up your age before I wrote "your generation". if you have taken film classes then you should have learned that movies have to be seen in their historic context. those pictures Kubrick showed at that time were simply breathtaking, but there have been so many imitations meanwhile that one hardly realizes how great the movie is, unless you remember that this one was the first


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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:35
Don't get me wrong- I thought the visuals were outstanding given the year of production- I just felt a full hour could have been shaved from the film. 

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:36
Not me.

To hell with movies that want to get me to learn.  When my ass hits the couch and I have a beer in my hand, I don't want to think.

If I want to learn, I'll flip over to PBS.  Sleepy




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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:42
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I watched it stone sober and was absolutely bored to death  (2001) 

no wonder. your generation has been buried beneath fast-paced blockbusters. you simply can't appreciate a slow tempo. I hate molst modern movies; hardly any director takes the time to really tell a story. it is just one action scene after the other. and that bores me to death


My generation? I'm no teenager

I happen to like a lot of slower paced films, I rarely EVER like "blockbuster" movies.

I have taken two film classes, and fell in love with real films!
I think that if dropped some acid just before the Jupiter sequence I think you might  find it a bit more interesting. Some people have been known to have done this. But I dunno. In 1968 when the film was released one critic with the LA Times simply wrote " An LSD trip without the LSD. "  

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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:43
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Don't get me wrong- I thought the visuals were outstanding given the year of production- I just felt a full hour could have been shaved from the film. 
You should see what they did shave out of it.

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:44
I tend to find that come awards season, that there is generally only 1 or 2 movies nominated for awards each year that really interest or interested me.  The rest tend to be movies that I have no interest in ever seeing.

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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:46
@ Baldjean:
You ALWAYS do this. If someone doesn't agree with you, you must keep going because somewhere in your mind you are certain you change someone's feeling/opinion on something, no matter how solidly they feel about it.
Just give it a rest, the guy doesn't like the film. I don't understand what's so hard to understand about thatConfused
Personally, I really enjoy it, so do you, Kevin doesn't, just leave it at that.

And no, just no,  don't generalize the younger generation with the "your generation has been buried beneath fast-paced blockbusters. you simply can't appreciate a slow tempo" rant.
I'm 21 and can appreciate many "slow tempo" films. We are not ALL like how you describe.
Stop parading your opinions around like they are facts and making stupid, false assumptions/generalizations.


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:48
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Don't get me wrong- I thought the visuals were outstanding given the year of production- I just felt a full hour could have been shaved from the film. 

I would not know what to cut out. the movie can be be seen as in 4 parts:
1) the dawning of mankid
2) on the way to and on the moon
3) in space
4) inside the monolith

the first part is usually the least liked but is actually my favorite; great acting from all.
the second and third part are probaby those where you want to cut out stuff. but Kubrick wanted you to feel the journey, to experience what it is like being in space. watch the little details: the tablet with the food floating away, the phone call home to the daughter who wants a bushbaby (notice the delay in the answers; Kubrick thought of that as well, while most other space movies have the communiation happen instanly; a notable exception is "Silent Running"). if you let him take you on this journey into space then the movie is great. if not, then I agree it is boring


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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:54
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Don't get me wrong- I thought the visuals were outstanding given the year of production- I just felt a full hour could have been shaved from the film. 

I would not know what to cut out. the movie can be be seen as in 4 parts:
1) the dawning of mankid
2) on the way to and on the moon
3) in space
4) inside the monolith

the first part is usually the least liked but is actually my favorite; great acting from all.
the second and third part are probaby those where you want to cut out stuff. but Kubrick wanted you to feel the journey, to experience what it is like being in space. watch the little details: the tablet with the food floating away, the phone call home to the daughter who wants a bushbaby (notice the delay in the answers; Kubrick thought of that as well, while most other space movies have the communiation happen instanly; a notable exception is "Silent Running"). if you let him take you on this journey into space then the movie is great. if not, then I agree it is boring

The one thing that annoys me about the delay was the interview that supposedly the delay was cut out, yet Dave and Frank stay in the same place. It would have been nice if there were little cuts showing them in slightly different positions/places for each question.


Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 15:04
Troy

The Davinci Code




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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 15:14
I don't think Drew doesn't like 2001 because of today's generation's attention span and of a supposed incapacity to put things into perspective. Hell, people and specialists from 1969 certainly had better attention span and better view of the context, so why didn't they see it as the huge accomplishment it is? Why did they give the "Best Film" Oscar to "Oliver!" and didn't even nominate 2001 for this section. They only gave it the "Visual Effects" Oscar. IMO people of today have a better perspective of 2001; for example the people on IMDB (which represents this decade's opinion) rated 2001 with 8.4 and Oliver! with 7.6. LOL


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 15:23
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I don't think Drew doesn't like 2001 because of today's generation's attention span and of a supposed incapacity to put things into perspective. Hell, people and specialists from 1969 certainly had better attention span and better view of the context, so why didn't they see it as the huge accomplishment it is? Why did they give the "Best Film" Oscar to "Oliver!" and didn't even nominate 2001 for this section. They only gave it the "Visual Effects" Oscar. IMO people of today have a better perspective of 2001; for example the people on IMDB (which represents this decade's opinion) rated 2001 with 8.4 and Oliver! with 7.6. LOL

well, people who sit in award-giving commitees are often not chosen for their abilities of judgement but rather for reasons of convenience. controversial figures rarely become members of these boards. this is especially true for the academy awards commitee


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 15:24
^ If I know right, the Oscars are given by representatives of the American Film Academy, but this, contrary to the appearances, doesn not necessarily contradict you LOL


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 15:58
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

^ If I know right, the Oscars are given by representatives of the American Film Academy, but this, contrary to the appearances, doesn not necessarily contradict you LOL

that's why in my comment I did not refer to the American Film Academy but more generally to committees of that kind


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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 17:10
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I don't think Drew doesn't like 2001 because of today's generation's attention span and of a supposed incapacity to put things into perspective. Hell, people and specialists from 1969 certainly had better attention span and better view of the context, so why didn't they see it as the huge accomplishment it is? Why did they give the "Best Film" Oscar to "Oliver!" and didn't even nominate 2001 for this section. They only gave it the "Visual Effects" Oscar. IMO people of today have a better perspective of 2001; for example the people on IMDB (which represents this decade's opinion) rated 2001 with 8.4 and Oliver! with 7.6. LOL


If your saying I have a low attention span you're wring- you don't have to come across as an ass. It's a subjective conversation- I'm sure I like stuff that you find slow or uninteresting- a matter of opinion.


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 17:14
^ I wasn't saying that, I was implying the exact opposite, thanks for noticing LOL


Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 17:16
Sorry about that- I obviously misunderstood/misread 

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 17:18
I was just going along with the argumentation brought against you and trying to prove it's wrong. T'was fun. Tongue I think it's all in the taste, as you also said. 


Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 17:35
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I watched it stone sober and was absolutely bored to death  (2001) 

no wonder. your generation has been buried beneath fast-paced blockbusters. you simply can't appreciate a slow tempo. I hate molst modern movies; hardly any director takes the time to really tell a story. it is just one action scene after the other. and that bores me to death


I'm in the same generation, and I love slow movies. I'm a big fan of the Coen brothers, for example. Have you seen No Country For Old Men? Big smile


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 17:40
^ Now that's a slow movie with a lot of action and explosions. Take that! LOL


Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 18:15
Baldjean, I'm 31, I love 2001, I love many slow films, I hate most blockbusters.... I think your theory has failed. 

Maybe people born after 1990, you should have added... Wink... 

Really, not liking 2001 is not the crime of the century. I can even understand why someone would not love it. Why can't you? 


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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 18:17
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I watched it stone sober and was absolutely bored to death  (2001) 

no wonder. your generation has been buried beneath fast-paced blockbusters. you simply can't appreciate a slow tempo. I hate molst modern movies; hardly any director takes the time to really tell a story. it is just one action scene after the other. and that bores me to death


I'm in the same generation, and I love slow movies. I'm a big fan of the Coen brothers, for example. Have you seen No Country For Old Men? Big smile


I enjoyed the crap out of that filmTongue


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 18:19
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I watched it stone sober and was absolutely bored to death  (2001) 

no wonder. your generation has been buried beneath fast-paced blockbusters. you simply can't appreciate a slow tempo. I hate molst modern movies; hardly any director takes the time to really tell a story. it is just one action scene after the other. and that bores me to death


I'm in the same generation, and I love slow movies. I'm a big fan of the Coen brothers, for example. Have you seen No Country For Old Men? Big smile


I enjoyed the crap out of that filmTongue

You see... I didn't like that one. But i liked 2001... 

Why do we all have to like the same things???? Is these kind of judgments that make "art" people look so unlike they pretend to be.. UTTERLY PREDICTABLE


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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 18:22
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I watched it stone sober and was absolutely bored to death  (2001) 

no wonder. your generation has been buried beneath fast-paced blockbusters. you simply can't appreciate a slow tempo. I hate molst modern movies; hardly any director takes the time to really tell a story. it is just one action scene after the other. and that bores me to death


I'm in the same generation, and I love slow movies. I'm a big fan of the Coen brothers, for example. Have you seen No Country For Old Men? Big smile


I enjoyed the crap out of that filmTongue

You see... I didn't like that one. But i liked 2001... 

Why do we all have to like the same things???? Is these kind of judgments that make "art" people look so unlike they pretend to be.. UTTERLY PREDICTABLE


Given the music we both like, I bet we have MUCH ore in common than with 98% of the rest of the worldLOL


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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 18:26
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Baldjean, I'm 31, I love 2001, I love many slow films, I hate most blockbusters.... I think your theory has failed. 

Maybe people born after 1990, you should have added... Wink... 

Really, not liking 2001 is not the crime of the century. I can even understand why someone would not love it. Why can't you? 

I was born in 1990 so I will agree with you. Smile


Posted By: alphawave10
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 20:25
AAAAAArrrgh...i didn't ask you to name the worst movie(s) you'd ever seen but the most hyped.  Some  of you have got it ......................others usuing self loathing and fast or slow paced movies to tie in......no no no.
Over-hyped is the terminology here.....oh and....there's another human being who enjoys Eraserhead....i'm not alone, i'm not alone yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..............sorry.......self birching time again...ouch....ouch..ouch..........................................


Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 20:31
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks The Godfather is fairly overrated.  
 
<Peter Griffin>  It insists upon itself.  </Peter Griffin>
 
Surprised there's been no mention of THEE most overrated movie ever: Napoleon Dynamite.  Was there any point to that at all?
 
 


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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 20:32
Yeah, we kinda got off topic with 2001. To be fair, it is a very hyped movie.


Posted By: LandofLein
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 22:11

The one that comes to mind right now would have to be The Hangover

I was told it was a funny movie, but all it turned out to be was 3 guys yelling "oh F***! We are so F***ed! What happened last night?!" 


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 22:43
I tried to watch 2001 once, but I didn't make it very far. I cannot tolerate boring visuals with music, even if I could listen to the music by itself with no problem. This is a personal problem, and I don't think it has anything to do with "my generation".

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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 22:49
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I tried to watch 2001 once, but I didn't make it very far. I cannot tolerate boring visuals with music, even if I could listen to the music by itself with no problem. This is a personal problem, and I don't think it has anything to do with "my generation".

I agree. Age or generation doesn't have much to do with taste.


Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 23:16
I don't know what hype has to do with anything ever anymore as I'm not plugged into culture enough to know half a sh*t about what people like
that said, I could probably safely say The Dark Knight was overrated, and it was a pretty damn good movie


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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 23:19
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

I don't know what hype has to do with anything ever anymore as I'm not plugged into culture enough to know half a sh*t about what people like
that said, I could probably safely say The Dark Knight was overrated, and it was a pretty damn good movie

I agree. It was good, but nowhere near as much as the hype led me to believe.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: January 05 2010 at 02:40
Not sure which generation/demographic this puts me into, but I'm 47 this year, enjoy slow movies (and shallow blockbusters - there - I said it), love (good) science fiction, both in novels & especially film, yet (deep breath)...

I really do not see what all the fuss is about the film generally hailed as the greatest science fiction film of all (except by a notable few here ): yes, 2001!

I've seen it many times, but always found it fractured, stilted for a great part of the movie & to me the great ending sequence was a director running out of ideas & throwing in a few abstract concepts with some 1960's special effects to keep the stoners guessing.

But hey - that's just me

We're all individuals, with our own opinions - however, it usually stands true that when movies get huge critical acclaim, there will always be those to knock them down because they were highly praised.

Everyone's opinions matter, so long as that's what they are - genuine opinions & not just knee jerk reactions to media hyperbole.



Except anyone here who criticised The Godfather - they shall be first against the wall come the revolution

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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: January 05 2010 at 08:08
There are about a thousand films to mention but, I will spare everyone of that. Almost every film that I see must include today's lingo in the script. Unfortunately this is not a indication that you are watching a timeless film. Today's camera work is truly annoying. Little Children was an okay movie as it didn't include any of the lame concepts I've mentioned. The story drags a bit but at least I didn't have to hear......Gotcha, dude you rock, hello?, etc. The 70's and 80's were annoying too. Every so often, along comes a film which does not include that most un-enjoyable recipe. Bio films on rock music are the most annoying. The film on Miles Davis includes interviews with people discussing his relationships with women. How wonderful. Who matters, who never did, who won't anymore and who always will. How about if we stick to specifically the detailed aspects of his music and not the circus. The bio on Woodstock is not a very good representation of what the 60's was all about. Interviews with people who rolled and pee pee in the mud at the festival. Many discuss the importance of the acts and how they influenced the future of rock music. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth to hear it all. Most of the bands performing there were already washed up by early 69'. The newly formed Santana were fine but the acts that hailed from 1967 were pretty awful at that point in time. If anything, Woodstock was the downfall of rock music as it motivated promoters to place bands into stadiums while dumping sugar all over the music and the dress code of the 70's. How sad.


Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: January 05 2010 at 09:12
Sweeney Todd:such a bore,I fell asleep in the theatre


On the other hand there's a film I find underhyped:John Boorman's Zardoz


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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: January 05 2010 at 10:58
Yeah... The Godfather was overrated, but it's good, if you put in the mood and rythum of that particular time... we are too much involved on the fast scene edition, but well, for me, Pearl Harbor and Gladiatior are the most overrated movies and are pure crap... happy that no one have mention Citizen Kane because that's a brilliant movie, and deserves a great place on history, of course, I'm not saying that is the best... but its good enough...

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 05 2010 at 11:30
The Star Wars films, all 6 of them. Its not that they're bad films because they arent, they're just massivly over hyped with every single aspect of them best described as OK.

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