Black Sabbath Albums
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Topic: Black Sabbath Albums
Posted By: FusionKing
Subject: Black Sabbath Albums
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 09:57
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Turn up your speakers and prepare to headbang, 'cause this one's for all the Sabbath fans! Replies:
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 10:15
| Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is by far my favourite of the band's classic Ozzy era, but my absolute favourite from the band is Heaven and Hell - which also ranks as one of my Top 10 albums of all time. |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 10:24
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath it is. Could as well be Sabotage but this time it went this way. Ah, multiple votes are allowed, if Born Again doesn't get any, I'll give it one sympathy vote  It's not a great album by any means, but still criminally underappreciated. I rather enjoy The Eternal Idol as well, but the Dio era is still very much a blur for me. There are great songs there but I've heard each of his Sabbath albums only once or twice so far.------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 11:17
| Vintage Sabbath for me. The first 5 are the best IMHO. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 11:51
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 12:13
| Their debut, and "Sabotage" left only slighlty behind as their 2nd best for me. |
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 12:14
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Master Of Reality is my favorite even though Vol 4 and Sabotage are probably better.
Henry Rollins once likened manic depression to having "the first 6 Black Sabbath albums playing in your head simultaneously". Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 12:17
| Debut is excellent, few more next albums are great , Heaven and Hell is second great BS album. Voted for debut |
Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 12:21
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Paranoid has the most hits but I think I have to go with Master of Reality, even though it is so short. Heaven and Hell is by far the best Dio era album.
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Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 12:27
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For me the debut is their greatest album. However, I would put Vol 4 a close second. ------------- Haiku Writing a poem With seventeen syllables Is very diffic.... |
Posted By: T.Rox
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 22:26
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Black Sabbath is my favourite ------------- "Without prog, life would be a mistake." ...with apologies to Friedrich Nietzsche |
Posted By: T.Rox
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 22:26
And I will agree on Vol. 4 being second  ------------- "Without prog, life would be a mistake." ...with apologies to Friedrich Nietzsche |
Green Shield Stamp wrote:Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 23:07
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath followed by Black Sabbath and Paranoid. ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 01:53
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Come on, no love for Sabotage? With Symptom of the Universe, probably the single heaviest song in the history of man? And surely the proggers would go for The Writ and Megalomania....not to mention the fantastic Hole in the Sky opening the album! Far and away my favorite Sabbath record....well, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath a relatively close second. (I admit, I've overplayed the first 3 albums so I rarely listen to those anymore) ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 06:10
| Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, closely followed by Vol 4. |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 06:22
| Sabbath Bloody Sabbath!!! |
Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 10:55
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Master Of Reality is my favourite, but Paranoid and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath are just as good. ------------- 
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 11:15
Entirely agree on this one so in order to balance things out I voted Heaven and Hell! |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 11:33
| The debut slighly over the proggier Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. |
Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 14:22
This. I just adore the debut. Plus it has my favorite Sabbath Song, NIB.  ------------- 
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Posted By: LandofLein
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 15:07
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Has to be Master of Reality with the debut and Paranoid very close behind after that, I really don't care for them
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 17:54
My vote had to go to Sabotage. Everything that makes Sabbath great is crammed magically into that album somehow! 
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 19:52
Oh, I love Sabotage. When I first heard it, it freaked me out big time. It was some of the heaviest music I'd ever heard. The instrumental Don't Start (Too Late) scared the hell out of me (it's kind of creepy), leading into the heaviest riff of all time, Symptom of the Universe. It, and Master of Reality, are my favourite albums by Black Sabbath. They're both as doom metally as all hell, and heavy as buggery. They both have this all-emcompassing sense of doom hanging over them. I also love Vol. 4 and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath a lot. I agree about overplaying. I still love the debut and Paranoid a lot, but I have listened to them a lot of times now. The scary impact they had has dimmed a bit now. Oh, what the hell, I just love the first six albums by the original lineup! I've give them all a vote, because multiple voting is allowed. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: WillieThePimp
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 04:44
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Master of Reality. After that, Sabotage.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 04:53
| My fav all times Black sabbath album is Heaven and hell, followed by Master of reality (ozzy era) and Headless cross (Martin era), but I like BS almost all minus Born again. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 05:20
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Sabotage is my favorite, followed by Heaven and Hell. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 04 2010 at 07:02
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I'm not very familiar with Black Sabbath, so I don't vote. I have heard Paranoid, which is way too heavy for my subtle taste. Volume 4 is a highlight among hard rock albums; it easily hits the 4-star mark for me. ------------- 
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Posted By: Rushlover13
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 14:44
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Their first has it's own little charm. ------------- I Love Rush. |
Posted By: Mladen_Serbia
Date Posted: January 23 2010 at 09:47
| Master Of Reality is my absolute favorite. Close choices: Heaven and hell, Born again, Paranoid, and the debut. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 23 2010 at 14:58
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I guess I have to go with Sabotage because they were really pissed at a lot of people when they did that one and it shows. ------------- |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: January 23 2010 at 17:02
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: January 23 2010 at 22:08
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Master Of Reality
Paranoid Black Sabbath ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 16:53
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1. Master of Reality 2. Paranoid 3. Black Sabbath 4. Heaven and Hell 5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (And yes, I know the album art for "Born Again" is my avatar, and even though I think it's a great album, it's not in my top 5) ------------- 
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 12:32
| I find it very hard to choose. even though I already had it on vinyl I recently bought the deluxe edition of their 1st album which I've really been enjoying again lately. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: January 29 2010 at 11:18
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Heaven & Hell remains one of my favourite rock albums of all time. Even now, I marvel at how Dio resurrected that band. Close second to Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - after all, it did have the maestro on keys  ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 03:10
| Wow. So few votes for what I always thought was their most acclaimed album (Paranoid). |
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 03:39
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 18:51
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don't think I've voted in this.. nope.. I haven't.. going with the debut.. but a shout out to Sabotage which has recently been my most listened to Sabbath album. Probably has a lot to do with Symptom of the Universe being neck and neck with Immer Lustig as my favorite track to get the blood flowing on the drive in to work in the morning. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 20:38
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Volume Four for me, then Sabaotage & Master Of Reality
Really curious why V4 has such a low vote count  ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: February 12 2010 at 08:32
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By the way... Tomorrow will be the 40th birthday of heavy metal: on the 13th of February 1970, Black Sabbath released its first LP. Celebrate. |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: February 12 2010 at 08:38
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Aren't High Tide and Led Zeppelin heavy metal ? (1969) ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: February 13 2010 at 09:59
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I'll break the silence and admit i voted for Born Again, may be a sin, to vote for the Gillan/Sabbath,
but it is a great very unik album.
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Posted By: idiotPrayer
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 10:39
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Paranoid closely followed by the debut |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 14:31
Black Sabbath's debut followed closely by Paranoid. I also like Headless Cross despite Ozzie's absence ------------- 
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 14:48
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So many votes for 'born again' -> never heard it, must be good ?
I always thought Ozzy-era beats all following ones. I admit that I was totally amazed by the 'live evil' though. Much less by the studio Dio-era albums.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 15:40
No, it's not a good record. It's just that the poll allows multiple votes and somebody fooled around voting multiple times Born Again.
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:01
Don't have a good amount of these, so no vote from me 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:05
Do you have Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Paranoid and Black Sabbath?
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: February 15 2010 at 03:16
Thanks for clarifying, Pablo. Phew, I was ready to go and buy this record today... ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: February 15 2010 at 23:23
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With Ozzie? "Vol. 4" With Dio? "Heaven and Hell" - I thought that the band took a HUGE step forward, musically, with H&H! I often play these tunes to warm up, and go "Wot the hell happened to Iommi on this LP??" His technique & lead playing SOARS on H&H! Mind you, I love the other stuff, too, but...I've read reviews that said this was the "best heavy metal album ever made," and I am inclined to support that view.
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 09:24
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Hey guys, does anyone recognise who is singing on the final track on Never Say Die?, it's called 'Swinging The Chain', it doesn't sound like Ozzy or Bill Ward so who the hell is it?
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 12:21
On the Wikipedia entry for the album, it says it's Bill Ward, and so it does on the band's website. Therefore, we have to assume it was really him. |
Posted By: Matthew T
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 13:08
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Paranoid.................I liked em' with Ozzy ------------- Matt |
Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 19:45
 Cheers. In that case Bill Ward actually has a far better voice than I had assumed!
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: February 18 2010 at 12:32
| That first Sabbath album which I first heard upon it's release gave a very strange vibe to all kids everywhere. Many kids in high school 1971 were interested in the occult side that is presented on the album. Every kid in the school was calling it hard rock. It's really strange to think of Sabbath not only in that term but, how the music grew on fans of rock as they entered the music scene. They were for many years classified as a dark band and based on a self indulgent mood swing, people would wait for a moment in time to play their records. Usually on a dark and windy night a friend would put on the first album. I kind of got the impression that hippies disregarded them as a leftover of something or the other. So it was mostly kids from my age group that indulged. |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 19 2010 at 07:46
I can't believe 'Born Again' has so many votes, yet so little written endorsement within the thread; personally, apart from a couple of decent tracks, to me, it represents a real nadir in Sabbath's history (although maybe not so much as Technical Ecstacy'  )
Favorites for me? 1 - Sabotage 2 - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 3 - Heaven & Hell 4 - Masters Of Reality ...plus an honourable mention for 'Live At Last'; never an official album, I understand (released by NEMS without the band's consent), but shows them at their live peak 
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 19 2010 at 07:52
Great to see that we share almost the same tastes ! As regards Born Again, I remember I used to like it a lot when it came out - but then, I was much younger, and my tastes were not fully developed. However, as you said, there are a couple of decent tracks on the album, or possibly three. Personally, I like "Trashed", "Disturbing the Priest" and the title-track. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 19 2010 at 09:12
Like I said to Lucas, this poll allows multiple votes so there must have been someone funny to vote multiple times to Born Again.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 19 2010 at 11:19
 I know the feeling - I was there when they played the Reading Festival in 1983, but I still laughed my ass off when the encored with 'Smoke On The Water' -------------
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 19 2010 at 12:19
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I've voted for Vol 4. Not ashamed to admit I like Technical Ecstasy a lot though. yes, it's their least heavy album, but to me the album is almost flawless - with the exception of the ballad She's Gone, which I find rather annoying and press the skip botton.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 19 2010 at 12:38
*cue emoticon for Rolling On the Floor Laughing My Ass Off* |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: February 19 2010 at 14:20
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I actually like most of their recorded output with a few exceptions. It's a really tough call for me between Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and H & H as my favorite of theirs. I'm also quite partial too their debut, Sabotage, Paranoid, Mob Rules, Tyr, Cross Purposes, Dehumanizer, and yes, even Born Again. Never been too fond of the last two Ozzy outings, the last Martin outing or Seventh Star, although the later Iommi/Hughes album Fused is a huge improvement on 7th and shows that they can work very well together. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: February 21 2010 at 04:22
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Paranoid, the first one i got, and still by far my favorite and one of my all time favorite albums by any band. ------------- 
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: February 21 2010 at 08:40
| Surprised that Never Say Die has no votes from you proggers! Junior's Eyes, Hard Road, Air Dance and Over To You are amazing songs, I even liked Johnny Blade a lot. |
Posted By: Xanthous
Date Posted: February 21 2010 at 20:16
| I unfortunately haven't had experience with too many Sabbath albums, but with the ones I'm familiar with, Paranoid is my favorite. All of the songs are satisfying, and the guitar riffs are just classic. |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 26 2010 at 02:03
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I know it's not technically a Sabbath album, but just obtained 'The Devil You Know' from 2009; on first couple of listens, it ranks highly among their other albums, especially the track 'Bible Black'... listening continues... -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Rushlover13
Date Posted: March 12 2010 at 23:05
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Paranoid is amazingly awesome. ------------- I Love Rush. |
Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: March 13 2010 at 18:02
| Master or Reality, no contest for me. It's also in my top ten albums of all time. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 14 2010 at 09:16
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath for me probably because the song writing had matured i.e. in the past many Sabs songs were at the mercy of how memorable the main riff was. I think I owned every Sabbath album up to Technical Ecstasy and although they all have their merits and contain some brilliant songs, they could be a tad patchy in places.
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 14 2010 at 22:04
I am enthralled by "Tyr", great songs, fab singing, gorgeous artwork and a glacial feel that has something to do with Valhalla  ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: EatThatPhonebook
Date Posted: April 26 2010 at 15:01
| Paranoid, because it has all the huge BS classics. |
Posted By: EatThatPhonebook
Date Posted: April 26 2010 at 15:02
| Actually, even the first one is full of amazing songs... |