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Topic: Slartibartfast's 1986
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Subject: Slartibartfast's 1986
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 12:36
Continuing with my the 1980's weren't so bad series of polls.

And as always feel free to suggest others.

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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 12:54
Skylarking!

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 12:58

Apparently, my 1986 is much different then yours.  Only Peter Gabriel's So, Paul Simon's Graceland, and Andy Summers XYZ appear within my collection.  Thus, not enough data for me to offer a vote.



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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 13:03
My 1986 only crosses over with yours in Zappa's Jazz from Hell.  I've been meaning to get the Wyatt and the Tangerine Dream as well, but it hasn't happened yet.

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 13:04
From the list Wyatt's "Old Rottenhat" and TD's "Underwater Sunlight" stand out.
Overall UNIVERS ZERO's "Heatwave" and FATES WARNING's "Awaken The Guardian".


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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 13:07
Metallica - Master of Puppets

From the list I would take So, but come on bro can't leave MoP out. 


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 13:10
NO Colour of Spring


Posted By: questionsneverknown
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 13:12
XTC gets my vote again and Skylarking really is a masterwork (probably the main album of theirs, alongside Apple Venus, for which one could make a mildly reasonable argument for XTC's slight progginess).

Tibbets's Exploded View is another love from the list.

Some other interesting albums from the year 1986:

The Mice Scooter
Dif Juz Extractions
The Chameleons Strange Times
Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians Element of Light
Throwing Muses's debut
R.E.M. Life's Rich Pageant
The Smiths The Queen is Dead


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 13:16
(from the list I voted for Home Of the Brave - with The Moon and the Melodies a close second)
 
Filigree & Shadow - This Mortal Coil.
 
The Colour of Spring - Talk Talk
Medusa - Clan of Xymox
Tinderbox - Banshees, Siouxsie & The
The Other Side Of Life - The Moody Blues
Kicking Against The Pricks - Badseeds, Nick Cave & The
Dreamtime - The Stranglers
Express - Love & Rockets
GTR - GTR (... at the time I loved it)
Paster of Muppets - Lars and the Bay Area Thrashers
Somewhere In Time - Ironing Maiden
Reign In Blood - Slayer
 
 


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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 13:35
So gets my votes, but Graceland & Skylarking push it very close.

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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 13:37
PG,FZ or Eno for me.


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 14:10
Forgot about "Somewhere In Time" by IRON MAIDEN.Thanks Dean.
SHUB-NIGGURATH is pretty incredible too from that year.


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Posted By: Kestrel
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 14:26
Can't decide between So and Ambient 4...


Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 14:30
OK if we're all going to talk about our '86 collections, here's mine:
 
Skylarking
The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead (my actual choice outside of this poll)
Talk Talk - The Colour of Spring
 
And...looks like that's it. Not a favorite year of mine it seems.


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Posted By: Kestrel
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 14:34
Oh, and no Invisible Touch? :/

Edit: Wait, are you sure Ambient 4 was released in 1986?


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 15:41
Originally posted by Kestrel Kestrel wrote:

Oh, and no Invisible Touch? :/

Edit: Wait, are you sure Ambient 4 was released in 1986?

Aw crap, you're right I plugged in '86 in my log because of the liner notes in the CD booklet said "revised 1986".  More properly belongs in 1982 though was recorded between then and 1978.  I sometimes change my mind if something should be logged in for it's beginning recorded date or ending recording date if it spans years.  I do log things in by recorded year rather than released year.  Thanks for the correction. Big smile

I saw Dean mention GTR.  That one is most certainly in my flooded LPs, hasn't been salvaged yet that I know of.  I think there's still about 200 for my boss to finish up on.  I never liked that one that much, it was interesting for the pair up. 

Of those that I was listening to fresh in that year, I think Skylarking made the best impression.  I think more than half of those were acquired after their year, which means lots of stuff on LP that I didn't get CDs of.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 16:09
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Apparently, my 1986 is much different then yours.  Only Peter Gabriel's So, Paul Simon's Graceland, and Andy Summers XYZ appear within my collection.  Thus, not enough data for me to offer a vote.


I've been packing these polls with all the slots I have available, culling out some titles and including some that aren't officially prog, so I should add, feel free to vote or comment on only those you are familiar with.


Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 16:26
Really great list, so -decision is difficult. But - Jazz from Hell, I love it!


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 17:20
Anderson, Laurie - Home of the Brave: One of those I didn't get or hear that year. I did get the VHS of the live concert either that year of a little later. A really weird thing to watch.


Belew, Adrian - Desire Caught By The Tail: A really weird and difficult listening album after his first two solo albums. I had to get the Japan mini LP sleeve CD version for nostalgic reasons.


Budd, Harold - Lovely Thunder: Here's one many may not be familiar with but might really enjoy. I'd easily put it under progressive electronic, maybe symphonic, prog related? Dark and brooding.


Budd, Raymonde,Guthrie, Fraser - Moon and the Melodies, The: This one I didn't encounter until I found it used and saw Budd was on it in the 00's. My intro to the Cocteau Twins. Still need to explore these three twins further.


Carlos, Wendy - Beauty In the Beast: If there was an album that makes the case for the inclusion of Carlos in the archives, this is it. Best I've ever heard of Wendy or Walter. Dreamy synthesis compositions.


Cluster & Brian Eno - Old Land: Cluster & Brian Eno have really good chemistry. If you like Eno's more ambient material, there is much here to enjoy.


Eno, Brian - Ambient 4/On Land 1: Eno's ambient series albums weren't particularly consistent. #3 didn't have him playing in it at all, though it was good to get an album that was Eno's. Not as mellow as the first two.


Gabriel, Peter – So: Made a big splash commercially. Don't know if it particularly converted many to prog. Kind of a let down after the adventurous III.


Goodman, Jerry – Ariel: Well if you “new ageyish” stuff, this one won't bother you. I certainly liked it at the time. I don't dislike it now. Jerry's Mahavishnu stuff and the Like Children album with Jan Hammer are much better though.


Jackson, Joe - Big World: If you only know Joe from his more popular songs, you don't know Joe. He certainly had a pop success or two on here. The other stuff might qualify him for crossover. Damn good stuff if you only regard him as a pop artist.


Kansas – Power: Steve Morse in Kansas??? Whaa??? Well in the end a bit too much of an AOR effort. Has some good moments though.


Rypdal, Terje & The Chasers – Blue: I really got into the “Singles Collection” album. Came across this one many years later. Not sure if I've given it a fair hearing.


Shadowfax - Too Far To Whisper: Didn't realize that this one was in my LP collection. A bit of a step down from The Dreams Of Children in terms of prog.


Simon, Paul – Graceland: This one came to my attention thanks to radio airplay of You Can Call Me Al. Of course Simon had been a familiar name due to all the exposure S & G had received. I've read him slammed for his exploitation of world music or something to that effect. Whatever. I didn't realize Adrian Belew was on this one until recently.


Summers, Andy – XYZ: Andy has done some interesting things as a solo artist. Probably wouldn't have tried this one if not for his collaborations with Fripp. Good album, probably not my favorite Summers solo.


David + David – Boomtown: Here's one I became familiar with due to airplay. Progressive influences going on here. Had to get a CD to replace the LP for that.


Glass, Phillip - Songs from Liquid Days: Probably one of the more unusual Glass efforts. Invited Laurie Anderson, David Byrne, Paul Simon, The Roches, Susanne Vega, Linda Ronstat on. Weird and very cool.


Montrose, Ronnie – Territory: I had heard some buzz about Ronnie. The album is OK but didn't interest me into further exploring his material.


Synergy - Metropolitan Suite: Not one of my favorite Fast's, still a good piece of synthesized music.


Tangerine Dream - Underwater Sunlight: This one passed me by that year, good but remains one of those I don't know too well. At this point they had put out so much similar stuff I wasn't keeping up with them.


Tibbetts, Steve - Exploded View: Steve had definitely altered his sound to be more of an ECM artist. His first two remain my favorites.


Torn, David - Cloud About Mercury: A more adventurous ECM album than Tibbetteses. Isham, Levin, and Bruford, oh my!!! Is this thing still out of print?


Wyatt, Robert - Old Rottenhat – I didn't get into Wyatt's solo material until the '90's. Damn shame. He was very political in the '80's and I identify with him.


XTC – Skylarking: Yeah, this was the album that moved me the most in '86. If prog was on the wane and these guys weren't prog, stick a fork in me, I'm done.


Zappa, Frank - Jazz From Hell: Well hell, give FZ a damn Synclavier and look what the hell happens. G-Spot Tornado is one of my favorite tracks.



Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 18:03
Of those, I'd go for Peter Gabriel, but generally they are far from representative of my favourites from 1986.

Mine would be more like:

The Colour Of Spring - Talk Talk (clear best album of 1986 for me)

Pergamon - Tangerine Dream
Underwater Sunlight - Tangerine Dream
Hat And Field - Ain Soph
Palimpseste - Anamorphose
Infected - The The




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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 18:12
A bunch of these I've not heard, but I seriously doubt there's anything better in the list than Skylarking, which was (and is) perfection.

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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 18:52
I'll add another vote for "Graceland".  Exploitation or not, it was really my first exposure to world music and I loved it and still do to this day.

I'd also second Dean's suggestion for "Express" by Love and Rockets.  It remains in my top thirty albums of all time along with Graceland.


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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 20:20
1. Beauty In the Beast - Wendy Carlos.  An extraordinary album, full of complexity and surprises.  It demands careful listening.
2. Jazz From Hell - Frank Zappa.  Performed almost entirely on the Synclavier, Uncle Frank creates a very strange album (natch).
3. Graceland - Paul Simon.  Not just the African stuff.  A great album all the way around.
4. Skylarking - XTC.  If only all pop music were as good as this.
5. So - Peter Gabriel.  He finally got the hit he wanted by diving fully into the R&B.
Special mention goes to Kansas, Eno, and Shadowfax.  Not a bad year at all!


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Posted By: zachfive
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 20:26
Voted for Eno - Ambient 4.
Good poll, hard to choose just one. Waiting for 87', that is my personal favorite year for 80's music.

Honorable Mentions
1.Phillip Glass
2.Adrian Belew
3.Robert Wyatt


Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 20:32
UNIVERS ZERO's Heatwave
SHUB-NIGGURATH's Les morts vont vite


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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 20:39
the only one here ive listened to was 'SO,' and i didnt like that much at all...


Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 20:51
Actually I didn't see Songs from Liquid Days up there. That's a fantastic collaboration. I'll vote for that. 

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 21:01
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Actually I didn't see Songs from Liquid Days up there. That's a fantastic collaboration. I'll vote for that. 
Liquid Days is the one Glass ablum I've never liked - I guess I should give it another chance

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 31 2009 at 09:03
Skylarking is clearly my favorite here.  Among my favorite albums ever, in fact.  Most of the rest are either unknown or just ehh to my ears.  The Old Rottenhat album is quite nice though, kind of an underrated Wyatt thingy.  Terje Rypdal can also always be counted on to put out a good album, though I don't have the "Blue" one you listed.  How does it rate to "Chaser" (another album from the same band, I think?)?

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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 31 2009 at 10:06
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Actually I didn't see Songs from Liquid Days up there. That's a fantastic collaboration. I'll vote for that. 
Liquid Days is the one Glass ablum I've never liked - I guess I should give it another chance

I would recommend it. I especially enjoy the Paul Simon collaboration "Changing Opinion." If you don't have a problem with a crossover between popular music and academic music, which you mostly likely don't if you listen to Glass, then I think you'll enjoy the album eventually. 


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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: December 31 2009 at 10:13
KANSAS!!! Big smile


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 31 2009 at 11:55
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Actually I didn't see Songs from Liquid Days up there. That's a fantastic collaboration. I'll vote for that. 
Liquid Days is the one Glass ablum I've never liked - I guess I should give it another chance

I would recommend it. I especially enjoy the Paul Simon collaboration "Changing Opinion." If you don't have a problem with a crossover between popular music and academic music, which you mostly likely don't if you listen to Glass, then I think you'll enjoy the album eventually. 
Of course it depends on how "low-brow" the crossover is Tongue ... LOL seriously though, I don't have artist issues, if the music appeals to me I don't care who the performers are (ref: my Sarah Brightman collection Wink)... unfortunately on re-listening last night, this album still doesn't hit my pleasure nodes.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 31 2009 at 13:32
I'm tempted to go with Robert Wyatt's Old Rottenhat, but there's an album from 1986 he performed on that I prefer: News From Babel's Letters Home.  Other favourites from the year include Shub-Niggurath's Les Morts Vont Vite and Univers Zero's Heatwave.

I'm afraid that I haven't heard that many from this poll list.


Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: December 31 2009 at 13:37
T Dream is a classic. Thank you febus Cry   RIP

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Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: December 31 2009 at 16:17
Originally posted by Takeshi Kovacs Takeshi Kovacs wrote:

Of those, I'd go for Peter Gabriel, but generally they are far from representative of my favourites from 1986.

Mine would be more like:

The Colour Of Spring - Talk Talk (clear best album of 1986 for me)

Pergamon - Tangerine Dream
Underwater Sunlight - Tangerine Dream
Hat And Field - Ain Soph
Palimpseste - Anamorphose
Infected - The The




Just realised after one of the last posts that Underwater Sunlight - Tangerine Dream is actually on the list and I just failed to spot it. I voted for Peter Gabriel but really should have voted for TD.


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