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Topic: Zeuhl
Posted By: FusionKing
Subject: Zeuhl
Date Posted: December 28 2009 at 21:43

Hey guys, I'm a huge fan of rock music and although I have a pretty good knowledge of prog overall, Zeuhl is a genre which I am new to. Could anybody help me find a good place to start? Cheers.




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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: December 28 2009 at 21:46
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=646 - Magma.

Specifically K.A.

/thread.


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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 28 2009 at 21:52
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=646 - Magma.

Specifically K.A.

/thread.
 
For some reason, the suggestion of Magma for a zeuhl recommendations thread strikes me as hilarious.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 28 2009 at 21:53
I'll suggest Magma's Kobaia, 1001 Degrees Centrigrade, Weidorje ,or Zao as good places to start (but it depends on taste).  I like most everything in Zeuhl.

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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 28 2009 at 22:03
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I'll suggest Magma's Kobaia, 1001 Degrees Centrigrade, Weidorje ,or Zao as good places to start (but it depends on taste).  I like most everything in Zeuhl.
 
I haven't heard K.A, but Kobaia and 1001 Degrees Centrigrade are indeed good places to start if you know that what you're expecting is the unexpected.


Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: December 28 2009 at 22:05
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=646 - Magma.

Specifically K.A.

/thread.


This or Kobaia.


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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: December 28 2009 at 22:15
Oh! I remember Kobaia from the mp3 stream on this site, it rocked!


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 28 2009 at 22:16
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I'll suggest Magma's Kobaia, 1001 Degrees Centrigrade, Weidorje ,or Zao as good places to start (but it depends on taste).  I like most everything in Zeuhl.
 
I haven't heard K.A, but Kobaia and 1001 Degrees Centrigrade are indeed good places to start if you know that what you're expecting is the unexpected.


Not only are those particular favourite Magma albums of mine, but I was also influenced by the nick in those choices -- FusionKing.  Those are good jazzy albums.  Zao also has some really good jazzy music (I tend to like the début best but would rather recommend Osiris and the following albums), and Weidorje's is an awesome album (if you like that, check out Paga even though it's not all good).  Dun's Eros and Eskaton's Four Visions are a couple of albums that helped get me into Zeuhl, and Shub-Niggurath is a particular favourite in the category -- excellent, but more avant chamber rock.  The Japanese scene is great too, but you might want to hold off on that for a little while.  Still, you might want to try Happy Family or Bondage Fruit (though I love Koenjhyakkei, I don't known that I'd recommend that to start).


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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: December 28 2009 at 22:21

Hyderomastgroningem by Ruins!



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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 28 2009 at 22:29
Originally posted by FusionKing FusionKing wrote:

Oh! I remember Kobaia from the mp3 stream on this site, it rocked!


Good.  I will join in the chorus that you should get the first two Magma albums and go from there.


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 28 2009 at 22:54
Ignore Zeuhl.  Buy Kansas.

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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: December 28 2009 at 23:27

Ignore Zeuhl.  Buy Kansas: Epignosis

You don't have to, 'cause I already love Kansas! Tongue


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 00:03
Originally posted by FusionKing FusionKing wrote:

Ignore Zeuhl.  Buy Kansas: Epignosis

You don't have to, 'cause I already love Kansas! Tongue


If you like Kansas (I'm thinking of Robbie Steinhardt on violin) then you might appreciate Didier Lockwood's violin work: Zao (as I suggested earlier) has him on Kawana (and on Zao -Live, but I don't have it), but good violin work by others such as Jean-Yves Rigaud on the first three albums.  And consider getting the great live album by Magma, Live/Hhai which also features Lockwood, and he's also on the great Retropsekttw I-2 which has my favourite version of Magma's MDK.


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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 00:28
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Ignore Zeuhl.  Buy Kansas.

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You're a Kansas fan? I had no idea!


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Posted By: Repner
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 00:51
I got started on Mekanik Destructiw Kommandoh.  Now I have their box set.  Love them

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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 03:08
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Ignore Zeuhl.  Buy Kansas.

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If we were at war, I could have you shot for this.

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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 03:11
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I'll suggest Magma's Kobaia, 1001 Degrees Centrigrade, Weidorje ,or Zao as good places to start (but it depends on taste).  I like most everything in Zeuhl.
These are very good suggestions.  I would have put Kobaia last instead of first on this list, but I whole-heartedly recommend this approach.  Try out later Magma once you've sampled these first.

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 11:51
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Ignore Zeuhl.  Buy Kansas.

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Ignore Zeuhl. Ignore Kansas.

Buy Anal c**t.


Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 12:01
Start with Eskaton's 4 Visions. Big smile
Better start than everything named before. I adore Magma, but Eskaton is far more accessible.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 12:46
Eskaton's 4 Visions is an album that helped me really get into Zeuhl.  Though that's the Eskaton album to start with, Eskaton's other albums are very good too (I really like Ardeur).  Although the Eskaton (and Autopsie) offshoot band Musique Noise seems like an attempt to me to make Eskaton-type music really accessible, Fulmines Regularis is best avoided (I quite like it, but it has the reputation as one of the bad albums in the Zeuhl world, along with Magma's Merci, which I also like, and Troll Vol. II which I find, at least partially, very enjoyable).

Incidentally, I discovered Eakaton (Zeuhl) and Picchio dal Pozzo (Italian Canterbury) at the same time and both had a big effect on me.


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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 12:57
^ That's it! Logan confirmed my suggestion, and explained it way better than I did.

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Il dormira

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 14:15
Thanks, I mentioned it an earlier post as one that got me into Zeuhl, but didn't automatically recommend it just in case the "operatic" vocals may be a turn-off.  The vocals are what made it special for me.  Like a lot of music before, I initially discovered the music thanks to the streaming track at PA which blew me away, without checking I think that one's "Attente", and so got the album quite quickly -- definitely well worth a  listen. That and Weidorje's are usually albums I recommend quickly to Zeuhl newbies.

However, I still think for someone with Fusion in the name, Magma's first two along with the Zao recommendations might be good places to start too (though Kobaia wouldn't be an easy one for many -- I think more would find 1001 Degrees more accessible).


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 14:18
^ if not, Attahk but that's really just a fusion album made by a Zeuhl band.


Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 14:21

Hi, Zeuhl virgin here........

OK, I like that Eros album by Dun. I believe I gave it 3 stars. I also like one of the two singles I got with Magma. See my review. But if you recommend Eskaton as my first real ticket to mayhem..... ehh, Zeuhl, I will go with that. I will order tonight.

I got the Magma albums, but I am not sure if they are the right ticket for a virgin. 

 



Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 15:36
I'm a Zeuhl newbie too.  I only have one album, "E-Re" (which I got for Christmas) and a few other Magma and Koenjihyakkei songs off of Youtube and Last.fm.  I think I should check out "Eros" next.


Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 16:25
^I'd say check out some early magma, in particular MDK and Kobaia. Hope you enjoy E-Re as much as I do, brilliant disc.

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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 16:37
It's a bit early to give a definite opinion, but I think Emmenteht-Re is a definite 5* album and a strong contender for album of the decade (although I may be slightly biased).
 
Lots of good recommendations so far - if you're thinking of dipping a toe into japanese Zeuhl, Koenjihyakkei is a goos place to start. All of the albums are worth owning, but I'd probably start with Nivrayam and work forward and back from there. Ruins Symphonica is also a real treat for Zeuhl fans, while the rest of Ruins work is something you will either love or hate, although if Symphonica tickles your fancy you'll probably enjoy their other albums as well.


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 16:49
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



If you like Kansas (I'm thinking of Robbie Steinhardt on violin) then you might appreciate Didier Lockwood's violin work: Zao (as I suggested earlier) has him on Kawana (and on Zao -Live, but I don't have it), but good violin work by others such as Jean-Yves Rigaud on the first three albums.  And consider getting the great live album by Magma, Live/Hhai which also features Lockwood, and he's also on the great Retropsekttw I-2 which has my favourite version of Magma's MDK.


I am reviewing Zao's latest album, Ethnic 3 Live, which is excellent, but more on the free-jazz side of things than Zeuhl. Highly recommended anyway, even if not exactly easy listening. Through my reviewing activity I've also come across an Italian Zeuhl band (at least they are listed here under Zeuhl), Runaway Totem. I don't know their previous albums, but their latest, Manu Menes, is really something.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 16:50
I might have to sample the newest Runaway Totem - I don't remember being that impressed with their earlier efforts.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 16:52
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

It's a bit early to give a definite opinion, but I think Emmenteht-Re is a definite 5* album and a strong contender for album of the decade (although I may be slightly biased).
 


I'm not sure if it's the best Magma album of the decade.  Wink  But the jury seems split among the Magma fans here.  For me it's virtually a dead heat after spinning E-Re a few times.


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 17:07
Get everything you can of the genre, you can't go wrong. Big smile

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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 17:22
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

It's a bit early to give a definite opinion, but I think Emmenteht-Re is a definite 5* album and a strong contender for album of the decade (although I may be slightly biased).
 
Lots of good recommendations so far - if you're thinking of dipping a toe into japanese Zeuhl, Koenjihyakkei is a goos place to start. All of the albums are worth owning, but I'd probably start with Nivrayam and work forward and back from there. Ruins Symphonica is also a real treat for Zeuhl fans, while the rest of Ruins work is something you will either love or hate, although if Symphonica tickles your fancy you'll probably enjoy their other albums as well.
 
Best of the decade!? Big smile
I'm excited to hear how it sounds.


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Les mains, les pieds balancés
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Posted By: manch1ech00ta
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 17:54
Shub NIggurath's Les Morts Vont Vite is f**king awesome, very dark and atmospheric


Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 19:32
Big smile Lovin' the weirdness of Magma on the PA mp3 stream right now. Hated the Japanese Zeuhl thoughDead, it's way too chaotic even for me. However, I think I'm getting a wee soft spot for the Potemkine, Dun and Eskaton on the tracks provided here. Does anybody know if I can hear more from this lot on Last fm? Smile


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 19:41
Can't help with that, I rarely use last.fm, especially since the scrobbler function won't work with Zune software. Cry

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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 20:24
Hug Aww, cheer up man. Just think of Monty Python... "always look on the bright side of life...(whistles) "


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 22:53
When I think of Monty Python the first two things that come to mind are Spam (spam spam spam spam spam spam spam) and the Argument Clinic.  Then everything else they've ever done. Tongue

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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 23:09
Originally posted by FusionKing FusionKing wrote:

Big smile Lovin' the weirdness of Magma on the PA mp3 stream right now. Hated the Japanese Zeuhl thoughDead, it's way too chaotic even for me. However, I think I'm getting a wee soft spot for the Potemkine, Dun and Eskaton on the tracks provided here. Does anybody know if I can hear more from this lot on Last fm? Smile


The best I can think of is typing Zeuhl into the recommendation radio.You may find more stuff to your taste that people haven't mentioned.


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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 23:12
http://www.last.fm/listen#pane=webRadioPlayer&station=%252Flisten%252Fglobaltags%252FZeuhl - http://www.last.fm/listen#pane=webRadioPlayer&station=%252Flisten%252Fglobaltags%252FZeuhl

Not sure if that will work or not.But it's the thought that counts ey?





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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 23:18
^Worked for me

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Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: December 31 2009 at 18:50

I was listening to Magma's Kobaia album earlier tonight and it did not kill me (???). The music is actually surprisingly enjoyable. Good fusion with something strange avant-garde madness thrown into the mix.

Last year, Soft Machine was a barrier I needed to break. In 2010, I will crack Magma. In 2011, I will crack Westlife......... although that maybe a Himalayan mountain too high for me.  



Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: January 07 2010 at 19:47
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Ignore Zeuhl.  Buy Kansas.

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I like more:
 
Ignore Kansas Buy ZeuhlSmile


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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: January 07 2010 at 19:57
koenjihiyakkei's Angherr Shisspa is excellent, although weird. if you like jazz, you'll like zeul given enough time. this album has a couple moments where my jaw just dropped. awesome. 

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Posted By: whydontyoueatcarrots
Date Posted: January 07 2010 at 22:16

Weidorje - Self Titled


Jannick Top - Machina



Both Magma related, and both phenomenal. Mr. Top's album is probably as "doom metal" as Zeuhl gets, so I dig it.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 30 2010 at 08:35
A Weidorje live album, recorded October 14, 1978 at Rombas (Moselle) should appear in 2010 on the Soleil Zeuhl label.

http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-weidorje-album-in-2010.html - http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-weidorje-album-in-2010.html


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 30 2010 at 04:21
http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2010/03/orkestraahl-ka.html - http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2010/03/orkestraahl-ka.html

In 2005, Magma came out with a Japanese "karaoke" release of KA, titled Orkestraahl KA. This CD has been very difficult to find outside of Japan. Well, now Japanese YouTube uploader UniweriaZekt has uploaded this CD to YouTube. And, it sounds pretty good through my headphones.


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: March 30 2010 at 04:29
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Ignore Zeuhl.  Buy Kansas.

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Ignore Zeuhl. Ignore Kansas.

Buy Anal c**t.
 
yes, indeed much more entertaining...


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 06 2010 at 08:51


LOL


Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: April 06 2010 at 09:30



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Posted By: Fusionman
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 04:56
I don't exactly understand why people like this genre...and it's tough to throw an entire genre under the bus, but it seems to be a genre of music for times you only kind of want to listen to music.

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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 09:25
Originally posted by Fusionman Fusionman wrote:

I don't exactly understand why people like this genre...


Then it's fortunate that our enjoyment isn't predicated on your understanding.


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 11:44
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

A Weidorje live album, recorded October 14, 1978 at Rombas (Moselle) should appear in 2010 on the Soleil Zeuhl label.

http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-weidorje-album-in-2010.html - http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-weidorje-album-in-2010.html

Either 2010 or early 2011 is what Alain told me when I emailed him about a couple other titles on the label.  Either way, I'm really excited about this one. 

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Fusionman Fusionman wrote:

I don't exactly understand why people like this genre...


Then it's fortunate that our enjoyment isn't predicated on your understanding.

LOLClap


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Posted By: Rottenhat
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 12:16
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Ignore Zeuhl.  Buy Kansas.

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Kansas sun Wurdah!


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 28 2010 at 06:50
NFERNAL MACHINA The CD has just been reissued by Jannick TOP. It contains a bonus - a new version of the recent introduction of the Music of the Spheres

http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2010/04/infernal-machina-rereleased-with-bonus.html - http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2010/04/infernal-machina-rereleased-with-bonus.html


Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: April 28 2010 at 07:30
Originally posted by Fusionman Fusionman wrote:

I don't exactly understand why people like this genre...and it's tough to throw an entire genre under the bus,
but it seems to be a genre of music for times you only kind of want to listen to music.


Eh yes indeed.
What else brings you to a Progressive Rock site? The chicks? LOL


Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 28 2010 at 17:57
It's a well established fact that Zeuhl makes you a total babe magnet. It's only natural for there to be a little jealousy from some of the other sub genres.

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 28 2010 at 18:33
Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

Start with Eskaton's 4 Visions. Big smile
Better start than everything named before. I adore Magma, but Eskaton is far more accessible.
 
Have to admit that I never thought of Magma as not accessible.
 
Nobody said that Carl Orff (Carmina Burana specially) was not accessible either.
 
I always gave music it's fair audience and court. By that I mean, listen to it on its on, not with something else in mind. The end result is an experience. Magma, for me, is ALL about experience and a lot less about "Zeuhl" or anything else. And the choral orchestration of a lot of that work is amazing to say the least and I am not sure that there even exist enough vocalists that would even try that!
 
And it is a massive credit that they can still do it and have you get up off your seat at the end ... and all you can say is ... WOW ... you simply will never see anything in music, so different, so well done, and so inspiring as an evening of this. But if your mind is set that you have to hear something or other, then Magma is not for you. You don't come to any zeuhl (god what a term!) with preconceived notions since the majority of it is not designed in conventional music idioms at all.  And these folks know it!
 
I remember the very first time I heard it - around 1974. I had known Carmina Burana for 10 years already, so when I heard it, done with a guitar, drums and bass ... I went ... wow ... that is far out!    For me, unlike most here, it was a come alive of a musical tradition into the modern age ... our generation has really done it! And explored and expanded the music into levels that are very important, and need to be better explained and understood so we can validate its history!


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 28 2010 at 18:38
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

It's a well established fact that Zeuhl makes you a total babe magnet. It's only natural for there to be a little jealousy from some of the other sub genres.
 
Syz ... this could be a problem. I think that we should categorize this better. They can have the babes and the chicks in the other kiddie sub-genres!  .... and we get all the real women! And true appreciators of music too!


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 26 2010 at 09:36
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

It's a well established fact that Zeuhl makes you a total babe magnet. It's only natural for there to be a little jealousy from some of the other sub genres.


Check my sig Wink


Also,

What the hell was http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2010/07/sr-band-zur-sun-dhhl-hommage-christian.html - this ?!?! LOLLOLShocked


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 08:22
Nice video from Magma's very recent Japanese tour:



The first two minutes are Japanese TV studio chat. From http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2010/08/video-magma-in-japan-2010.html - here (the comments are interesting, too).

Boy, do I love this band or what. Hearing Stella's singing over the sweet melody of Felicite Thosz instantly brought tears to my eyes (not a metaphor). It's been 5 months already since I last seen them, way too much for such an addiction Cry


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 08:31
Seems like One Shot are already giving concerts with Bruno on keyboards. They accompanied Magma in the Japanese tour. I wonder whether Bruno's replacement of Manu Borghi means a change in sounds. Manu played a lot of synths, while I only know Bruno playing electric piano for Magma.

Also, who's this Japanese guitarist that joined One Shot on stage? Maybe Jon knows him.



He looks bad-ass.


Maybe it was a jam-session with Koenjihyakkei? The guy from the left in the picture bellow looks like the drummer from KH.




Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 07:26
Check out the new (or rather old...) Shub Niggurath album from last year. OK, it is their debut demo released on CD, but I think it is a great album nevertheless.  Introducion it is called.


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 17:25
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Seems like One Shot are already giving concerts with Bruno on keyboards. They accompanied Magma in the Japanese tour. I wonder whether Bruno's replacement of Manu Borghi means a change in sounds. Manu played a lot of synths, while I only know Bruno playing electric piano for Magma.

Also, who's this Japanese guitarist that joined One Shot on stage? Maybe Jon knows him.



He looks bad-ass.


Maybe it was a jam-session with Koenjihyakkei? The guy from the left in the picture bellow looks like the drummer from KH.



WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?

That's Kido Natsuki on guitar if I'm not mistaken.  And you're right, that is Tatsuya Yoshida in the second picture too. 

Edit: If I'm right, I seem to remember hearing that One Shot and Korekyojin were doing a show together, so I'm guessing the guy facing away from the camera in the white shirt in the second shot is Korekyojin's bassist Nasuno Mitsuru.  That would have been an amazing show, I'm sure.


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 05:17
I knew you'd solve this, Jon LOL


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 11:12
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I knew you'd solve this, Jon LOL

Yeah, I am turning into one of the PA Japanese avant/Zeuhl experts, huh? Embarrassed


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Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: September 06 2010 at 13:17

Oh no............. I am starting to really enjoy the Mekanik album by Magma now. 

Confused



Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 06 2010 at 13:18
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

Oh no............. I am starting to really enjoy the Mekanik album by Magma now. 

Confused



Welcome to my world.  Hug


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 06 2010 at 13:21
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

Oh no............. I am starting to really enjoy the Mekanik album by Magma now. 

Confused



That took me three years! Shocked


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 11 2010 at 10:45
Magma cartoon:  http://www.citizenjazz.com/Magma-au-Duc-des-Lombards-avec-des.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.citizenjazz.com/Magma-au-Duc-des-Lombards-avec-des.html

Headbanger


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: December 11 2010 at 11:16
I'm sure I'd enjoy it more if I understood what was being said in any of the panels except the last one. LOL

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 11 2010 at 11:40
The text is not particularly interesting. It just describes the band with some conventional epithets. 


Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: December 11 2010 at 11:55
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=646" rel="nofollow - Magma.

Specifically K.A.

/thread.
 
For some reason, the suggestion of Magma for a zeuhl recommendations thread strikes me as hilarious.


Me too.


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 29 2011 at 21:19
http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2011/01/video-magma-toulouse-september-2324.html" rel="nofollow - http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2011/01/video-magma-toulouse-september-2324.html

Headbanger


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 05:34
F*ck! I'll never forgive myself for not knowing that Magma http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2011/02/magma-conservatory-of-paris-january-19.html" rel="nofollow - did a concert with conservatory musicians ! Ouch I would have loved to see that, I had this secret fantasy of hearing Magma in a classical context for a long time...


Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 14:55
I like zeuhl but i don't like magma. I suggest
Dün - Eros
Weidorje - Weidorje
Eskaton - 4 visions
Eider Stalliere - I 

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Posted By: Rottenhat
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 15:40
Excellent list, indeed. I could add Zao - Shekina. The drummer,  Jean-My Truong, in so awesome that he could compete with Vander, and that is not saying a little.





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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 15:42
Originally posted by Rottenhat Rottenhat wrote:

Excellent list, indeed. I could add Zao - Shekina. The drummer,  Jean-My Truong, in so awesome that he could compete with Vander, and that is not saying a little.


Clap  Jean My-Troung is incredible.  His work on Zao Live!  is my favorite.


Posted By: Rottenhat
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 15:53
Thanks Padriac. Guess what, i found that abum on Spotify.

Happy, Happy, Joy,Joyl :) 


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 14:33

http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2011/08/christian-vander-records-hommage-to.html" rel="nofollow - Christian Vander Records a Hommage To Coltrane

from http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed/http%3A%2F%2Fkohntarkosz.blogspot.com%2Ffeeds%2Fposts%2Fdefault" rel="nofollow - Kohntarkosz - The Blog for Magma and Zeuhl Music by marc

From a friend comes the following information:

A Coltrane homage was recorded between July 17 and July 23. This is the second album recorded in Stella and Francis Linon's new studio in Nice, the first one being the album by "Marcus and the Music".

The first track of this Tribute to Coltrane is "La Ballade". The musicians are PM Sivadier, Simon Goubert, Frédéric D'Oelsnitz (piano) and his girlfriend (chorus), Philippe Dardelle, Stella, a friend of Stella who is singing teacher, Isabelle and many others. The release date is September 27th. 

There are also some non-Coltrane compositions on the album. These compositions were composed by Christian Vander, Philippe Dardelle, PM Sivadier, and others.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 14:35

http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2011/08/magmas-upcoming-plans.html" rel="nofollow - Magma's Upcoming Plans

from http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed/http%3A%2F%2Fkohntarkosz.blogspot.com%2Ffeeds%2Fposts%2Fdefault" rel="nofollow - Kohntarkosz - The Blog for Magma and Zeuhl Music by marc

Mr.Calyx, who I have always found to be the most knowledgeable person about progressive music out there, has posted some updates about Magma on the Progressive Ears website. I will try to summarize.

1) Magma is going into the studio in early September to lay down the tracks for their new album. So far, only Felicite Thosz will be on the new album. Sl*g Tanz will NOT be on the album, as Vander says that the two pieces would not go very well together. Something that I find odd, since they have been playing Sl*g Tanz and FT back-to-back since early 2009.

2) Christian Vander is going into the hospital in September for an operation on a herniated disk. So, CV had to cancel his appearance at this year's RIO festival.

3) Zess will NOT be recorded for the new album.


Headbanger


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 08 2011 at 22:01
^ Thanks for the MAGMA update i didn't know all that stuff.
Listened to AMYGDALA's "Complex Combat" today.Man this can be oppressive music,they don't let up the intensity very often.I love the fact that ONE SHOT's Daniel Jeand'heur is on this drumming, and he's killer.


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 14 2011 at 20:55
Another one i highly rate is ABUS DANGEREUX's debut.Listed here under Jazz/Fusion but it has a definite Zeuhl flavour at times.Another classic from France.

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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: September 15 2011 at 17:24
I'm amazed you know that band ( but i'm proud Big smile) but i think the best ones are Weidorge and Eskaton

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 15 2011 at 20:19
Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

I'm amazed you know that band ( but i'm proud Big smile) but i think the best ones are Weidorge and Eskaton
 
There is so much great Zeuhl and Jazz music from France i would be proud too if i was from there.


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 02 2011 at 21:40
Had to mention Daimonji's IMPROG tonight.Great album although i find the vocals a little difficult.He sounds like Christian Vander when he uses his high voice. Yoshida on drums here is killer as usual.

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Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: November 02 2011 at 21:47
Have all you guys heard Kultivator yet?  What do you think?

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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 02 2011 at 22:12
Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

Have all you guys heard Kultivator yet?  What do you think?
Great album but I hear more Canterbury than Zeuhl.


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 10:07
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

Have all you guys heard Kultivator yet?  What do you think?
Great album but I hear more Canterbury than Zeuhl.

I just listened to their album a few nights ago and i can definitely hear a strong Zeuhl flavour.Yes it has that Canterbury shade as well which maybe why they are in Eclectic.I still think i'd have them listed under Zeuhl but that's just my opinion.By the way i think that album is brilliant.


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Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 10:54

An interview will be published with Francois Thollot tonight, London time. His new band Scherzoo (under evaluation) has just released an excellent zeuhl/canterbury album. 

I love zeuhl which for me is the most progressive music of all music styles. Enough said about my strong beliefs.



Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 10:57
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

Have all you guys heard Kultivator yet?  What do you think?
Great album but I hear more Canterbury than Zeuhl.

YES - I have finally found someone that agrees with me on this!


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 12:01
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

An interview will be published with Francois Thollot tonight, London time. His new band Scherzoo (under evaluation) has just released an excellent zeuhl/canterbury album. 

I love zeuhl which for me is the most progressive music of all music styles. Enough said about my strong beliefs.


Looking forward to this Torodd ! I love his "Contact" album and i also have the Scherzoo album.


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 18:19
Does anybody here have the most recent Panzerpappa release from 2006 called Koralrevens Klagesang? I hear a lot of Zeuhl in it alongside some Canterbury and inspiration from the early RIO bands.
I´ve been listening a lot to bands from Sweden and Norway the past few weeks, and Panzerpappa just recently got a spin again. Brilliant stuff!

BTW I have that Kultivator album as well, and I think it fits in nicely under the Eclectic moniker as it frolics in both Zeuhl and Canterbury. I love the album regardless though...  

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 18:32
Friends, check out http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=82372" rel="nofollow - this free album for an interesting brand of ... Space-Zeuhl? Highly recommended. 


Posted By: ProgBob
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 19:07
^
Yes it's pretty good.  I heard some of it on the radio and downloaded it shortly thereafter.  I remember paying for it though - maybe it was one of those 'pay whatever you want' type things?


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 19:52
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

Have all you guys heard Kultivator yet?  What do you think?
Great album but I hear more Canterbury than Zeuhl.

YES - I have finally found someone that agrees with me on this!
You're more than welcome Smile


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 20:23
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

An interview will be published with Francois Thollot tonight, London time. His new band Scherzoo (under evaluation) has just released an excellent zeuhl/canterbury album. 

I love zeuhl which for me is the most progressive music of all music styles. Enough said about my strong beliefs.


Looking forward to this Torodd ! I love his "Contact" album and i also have the Scherzoo album.


I just don't like Thollot on drums, he should stick to other instruments.  That's why Contact is great, he got maybe the best rhythm section on the planet to play on it.


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 03 2011 at 23:04
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

An interview will be published with Francois Thollot tonight, London time. His new band Scherzoo (under evaluation) has just released an excellent zeuhl/canterbury album. 

I love zeuhl which for me is the most progressive music of all music styles. Enough said about my strong beliefs.


Looking forward to this Torodd ! I love his "Contact" album and i also have the Scherzoo album.


I just don't like Thollot on drums, he should stick to other instruments.  That's why Contact is great, he got maybe the best rhythm section on the planet to play on it.
 
Can't argue with you there.Love that record.


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 14 2011 at 21:37
Listened to Soleil Zeuhl's re-issue of Four Visions by ESKATON today and was promptly blown away.I had the original with different cover art but udi Koomran has done an amazing job with the sound here.Not only that the bonus tracks are as good as the studio album in my opinion.

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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: November 15 2011 at 16:12
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

An interview will be published with Francois Thollot tonight, London time. His new band Scherzoo (under evaluation) has just released an excellent zeuhl/canterbury album. 

I love zeuhl which for me is the most progressive music of all music styles. Enough said about my strong beliefs.


Looking forward to this Torodd ! I love his "Contact" album and i also have the Scherzoo album.


I just don't like Thollot on drums, he should stick to other instruments.  That's why Contact is great, he got maybe the best rhythm section on the planet to play on it.
Almost the best. If he'd been able to get Christian Vander on drums, then he would have had the best rhythm section on the planet. Daniel Jeand'heur isn't too shabby, though.


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 15 2011 at 17:44
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Listened to Soleil Zeuhl's re-issue of Four Visions by ESKATON today and was promptly blown away.I had the original with different cover art but udi Koomran has done an amazing job with the sound here.Not only that the bonus tracks are as good as the studio album in my opinion.
Yeah, like this one a lot.



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