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Topic: Star Wars
Posted By: pakish
Subject: Star Wars
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 12:45
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I think most of people agree that the old movies are better than the new ones but... Chapter III is much better than the first and second
What do you think? ------------- TOEFL in latin america = neolanguage |
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Posted By: JrKASperov
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 14:46
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i disagree with the first theory. From the new movies, part I is much and much worse than part II, which in factis even better than parts 4,5&6. Why you ask? Better story, more believable acting, fleshed out characters, all that in a film that isn't as long-winded yet still not too fast-paced.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of the first three movies, and think they're awesome, biut according to me, part II is just a masterpiece. Just wait till I've seen III. ------------- Epic. |
Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 16:44
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Pt 2 is awful, really bad. watched it again with friends the other night and it is embarrassing. the acting is dreadful and the script is dire. Only the last 30 minutes is worth watching. Lucas can dream up a good story, but the man cannot construct a good script or direct particularly well. Empire is the best film IMO. Lucas didn't direct it and he only wrote the story for that one, not the script. I'm still looking forward to seeing Pt 3 though. ------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine." |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 16:54
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Episode III is indescribable to me. I saw it last night, and I left the theater speechless. I'm still in heavy analysis of what I saw. ------------- 
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Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 16:57
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It's fair to say you liked it then!!! I'm probably going to see it next week... ------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine." |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 19:51
God, I can't wait. I'm a Star Wars fanatic from waaay back, but like many, Episodes I & II were highly disappointing to me, especially II. How can anyone say the acting was good in that movie?!?!  It's among the worst I've ever seen in a big budget movie. Not that the first three movies had great acting (Exhibit A: Mark Hamill) but it was tolerable. However, I have very high hopes for Pt. III, but I hate crowded theaters, so I'm gonna wait a couple of weeks. Oh the torture! 
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 20:42
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Oh man, I really can not wait the Movie, I'm going to hang out at the movies on Sunday in the midst of Star Wars fanaticism and hanging out with my old man at the same time. I just can't wait |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 21:14
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I hope it's better than Episode I and II. Episode I was pretty weak, and II was a big step up, and from what I've heard, III is supposed to be the best of all the new ones. But still, nothing can touch the originals. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 21:23
yea, obviously not. No one can touch a younger Harrison Ford 
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Posted By: JrKASperov
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 03:23
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The acting was better in part II. Look at Anakin who is VERY WELL played as a puber who is badly raised: having no morals, still being a kid, trying to be good but failing. And the script is woow... Pay attention to what political scheming Palpatine is up to, and I ask you after seeing part III where all of his plots unfold, is that story not DEEP? Far more so than the old trilogy; old man finds chosen one, chosen one trains and fails, then trains some more and succeeds. Sure the athmosphere was good, but so is it in part II, it's just different. And so it should be, the times were different! I stick with the idea part II is the best yet and some people can't understand that because they desperately want the same. Nope, no progression. ------------- Epic. |
Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 04:23
I was absolutely dumbfounded when I checked the compiled reviews on Yahoo for this movie. It seems the critics actually LIKE IT!!! I don't think any other SW movie has had that distinction, and certainly not the last two. I'm not sure I'm gonna be able to wait a couple of weeks. 
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 05:02
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Hamill had his faults (poor acting and didn't age well, for instance), but IMAO both the young and teen Anakin were truly poorly cast...I was hoping they'd replace the irritatingly one-dimensional Hayden C. for part 3, but no such luck. Hopefully he's had some training since episode 2. I also had trouble taking Samuel L. and Liam seriously in a Star Wars setting (though it was no worse than Mr. Colt 45 as Lando), but was pleasantly surprised how well Ewan did as a young Obi-wan. Is it my imagination, or does Ian MacDiarmid actually look younger with every new episode? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi"> 
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Posted By: arkitek
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 08:18
| i am not really bothered about wether the script is good or wether the acting is cruddy! as long as it is an entertaining film then who cares! |
Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 16:16
Must be the power of the Dark Side .
I agree with you about Hayden and Ewan. Ewan and Ian have definitely been the shining stars of the first two prequels at least. I was amazed at how close Ewan had gotten Alec Guinness' voice, mannerisms & personality. And Ian, well, he seems born to play the role of Palpatine. From what I've read of the reviews for Ep. III, Ian is fantastic again. |
Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 16:45
(though it was no worse than Mr. Colt 45 as Lando),
Not to mention the horror that is Jar Jar Binks. And did anyone notice that the evil trade embargo dudes in the first one had faux-Japanese accents? I really started to doubt Lucas's sanity after seeing that movie. However, the new one is getting uniformly good reviews, so I'm excited. I just wish the movies had an electronic soundtrack, like Vangelis did for Blade Runner. John Williams is fine, but I get tired of orchestral scores. |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 18:41
| Nah, I can't imagine Star Wars with anything but orchestral scores. It's too "traditional", I suppose. |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 18:46
Good acting? It seems terribly obvious (as somebody said, one-dimensional) acting to me - everyone knows what's going to happen so if Anakin's personality was meant to hint at that, it could at least have been subtle. For Star Wars films I do want the same type - that's what Star Wars films are for. The original three were never groundbreaking in terms of stories/acting/scripts but they were damn fun. |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 18:47
 ^ I can't fault William's scores too much, but something a bit more futuristic or at least exotic mught have helped in some places (i.e., the cantina scenes, the ewok celebration, etc...) because it can be hard to take those scenes seriously with that silly background music. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: synthguy
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 18:57
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I think that the first one, "Episode IV" had an
atmosphere to it the other films lack. Although all of the films, thought I see them to be somewhat sentimental, have an "edge" to them. To hell with the Ewoks. ------------- Wearing feelings on our faces when our faces took a rest... |
Posted By: Carakhallo
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 19:48
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I´ve also watched again Episode II this week with my girlfriend (yes, she likes prog and is a Star Wars´fanatic I´m dying to watch Episode III.... |
Posted By: pakish
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 14:56
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What I really dislike about episode I & II is the stupid "funny" stuff like that non-porpouse Jar Jar Binks, ok they find him speak with his king and his race helps but thats it, is jar jar needed in the whole 2 movies, it seems that it's a charachter for 5 year-old-children who ask their parents to take them to see jar jar. It doesn't have a real role like golum in the lord of the rings or something. Fortunately he desapeared in episode III and the story is much better (to me). ------------- TOEFL in latin america = neolanguage |
Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 16:46
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Just watched it yesterday and i thought it was awesome! And normally I'm not a big star wars fan, in fact part II was horrible imo.  |
Posted By: pakish
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 17:53
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Can anybody tell me what's IMO, IMHO, IMAO? and all that stuff?? ------------- TOEFL in latin america = neolanguage |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 18:53
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IMO = In My Opinion IMHO = In My Humble Opinion IMAO = In My Asshole Opinion (my usual choice ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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) Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 19:42
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I wondered why did they put in Jar jar Binks if they knew most adults or teens would have liked it? BECAUSE they are CORPORATE WHORES THATS WHAT. |
Posted By: kingofbizzare
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 22:53
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The biggest dissappointment with Episode III is that Jar Jar didn't
die. I'm sure the audience would have exploded with applause if he had. I've heard that George Lucas originally intended to use disco music in the movies, but then changed his mind and went for an orchestral score. |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 19:10
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I think Episode 3 is AMAZING!!! (I saw it yesterday). Personally I can't pick out any single one that I love or hate... I love them ALL!!! All six films are definately amoung my fave movies ever! |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 19:32
What a sad story it was, I just watched it today and almost burst into tears around the middle especially for young Anakin. Such an innocent person converted into an evil being as seen in Episodes 4 to 6. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 19:45
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Episode I is a big disappointment. Episode II was much beter. And I expect Episode III will be just fantastic (hevan't seen it yet).
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 23:51
I see it the exact opposite way: Episode I was an excellent film Episode II was good but a disappointment to Star Wars fans. -------------
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 03:33
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It was very tragic. All the way through watching it I couldn't stop thinking how things were gonna turn extremely bad and stay that way. |
Posted By: pakish
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 13:40
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Did Yoda gave up? I think he could have fight harder ------------- TOEFL in latin america = neolanguage |
Posted By: ita_prog_fan
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 14:24
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I've not seen Ep. III yet, but i can say, despite super-technological effects, the first trilogy is better. ...and, generally, any prequel (see also "Enterprise") sucks !
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 14:43
I agree, but the new is just AMAZING!! |
Posted By: pakish
Date Posted: May 25 2005 at 21:35
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I've just seen it again I love it ------------- TOEFL in latin america = neolanguage |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 00:00
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I've yet to see it again. What was your impression after seeing it a second time? I expect to see it at least 3 more times, so I can get all the little tidbits (I am a total Star Wars nerd -------------
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).Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 16:42
| When you are old and decrepit like me and saw Episode 4 when it first came out the effect the film had on me was enormous. It was like you were flying down the street. Remember when you have been on a train and when the train comes to a halt your mind is still moving. Well, Star Wars was like that only faster. I saw episode 3 two days ago and although better than eps 1 & 2 it didn't have the same effect as first seeing 4. I thought it was too busy in a lot of the scenes. It was as if the production team had decided that they would put every special effect into most of the scenes. Episodes 4,5,6,3,2 and 1 in that order of preference |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 18:49
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I can vouch for the fact that Lego Star Wars on Xbox is absolutely amazing, silly fun.
(still haven't seen Ep.3 yet, though...this weekend, definitely...) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 19:15
Did you get Pregnant Amidala yet? -------------
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Posted By: ExquisiteCorpse
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 19:19
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eps 1 and 2 almost ruined the great old ones but ep 3 rocked ! Th best part: NO JAR-JAR BINKS! YAY! ------------- No, her name is not Beatrice. Yes, it's true: Movon invented cancer. Josh and Peanut for President in '06! |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 19:40
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Empire Strikes Back has always been my favorite Star Wars movie but that all changed after seeing Revenge of the Sith. -------------  |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 22:57
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James is all dressed up, and ready to go see "Ep. 3." ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 01:57
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 21:23
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I know, it was awesome. |
Posted By: JrKASperov
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 04:16
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What are you talking about? Jar-Jar is at least in the Padme-death
scene... And he was somewhere in a senate scene too right? At least he
do not talk. Also, Sidious is the bést! ------------- Epic. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:34
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Nah. He looked like a slaughtered mutant pig. |
Posted By: JrKASperov
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 04:41
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Belay that! JAR JAR TALKS IN EP III!!!! In the scene that the senators greet Anakin back from freeing Palpatine, Jar Jar nearly bumps into one of those senators and says: 'scuse me'. The horror!  ------------- Epic. |
Posted By: Dreamer
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 16:44
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I saw it yesterday. WOW. Intense would be a great word to describe it. after a while my mind cant handle it. I cant say its better than the classics (it would be immoral), but its lightyears |
ahead of the previous two. I would recommend it.Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 02:27
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after seeing episodes 1 and 2 i have absolutely no desire to see 3. I'm just so sick of Lucas, he is so over the top. These are far from mastrpieces like Lord of the Rings.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 17:48
| Star Wars Rules. |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 19:52
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WITHOUT ANY DOUBT, THE EPISODE III IS THE BEST OF THE NEW STAR WARS ERA ( EPISODES I II III) BY THE WAY I PREFER THE EPISODE V
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Posted By: FishyMonkey
Date Posted: June 02 2005 at 11:12
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Excellent movie, saw it a couple weeks ago. No complaints really, just a couple cheesy lines is all. Good stuff! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/FishyMonkey/?chartstyle=artists"> 
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Posted By: Carakhallo
Date Posted: June 02 2005 at 12:54
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FANTASTIC !! I´ve always been a SW fan and "The Empire Strikes back" had always been my favourite SW movie.... until last week, when I watched Episode III. It´s really amazing!! Not only because of the special effects, but the story is really consistent. I didn´t like Episodes I and II and I really didn´t expect something so impressive from EIII...moreover, the day before I went to the cinema I had been watching Episode V at home.. so YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH THIS LAST PREQUEL HAS IMPRESSED ME !! Having the opportunity to see Anakin turning to the dark side has been unforgettable...Ups! Sorry, have I spoiled the party to someone? |