Budgies album covers makes them a progband?
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Topic: Budgies album covers makes them a progband?
Posted By: Matte
Subject: Budgies album covers makes them a progband?
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 18:04
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I like Budgie. I really do. But, honestly, there arenīt many moments in their career that I would define as prog. 99 % of their material is standard hard rock stuff with a couple of acoustic ballads in between. Some songs have passages with prog leanings but that can be said about most all artists - at least those who were active in the 70īs.
But fact is that many people tend to class Budgie as some kind of prog-band - and I have my own guess why: The art cover of their albums!
Lets face it - progheads drool over covers by Roger Dean and his mates. And I must confess that the first thing, long ago, that made me buy a second-hand album from Budgie (Never turn your back on a friend) was the cover.
Personally I can find much more progression in the music of Alice Cooper, Allman Brothers Band, Boston, Cat Stevens, Extreme, Fools Garden, Frank Marino, Funkadelic, Gamma, Jellyfish, Mott the Hoople, Ten Years After, Thin Lizzy, Toto... but none of them seem to be present here at PA and I guess they donīt have the same prog "aura" around them as Budgie.
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 18:25
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 18:34
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Bear in mind that Budgie are included in Prog Related not a full-fledged prog category. Which in a nutshell means that they are not prog, but had influences on or from prog bands. What this means is someone was willing to champion, and the site administrators were convinced enough to have them listed in prog related.
Any of the bands that you listed could get potentially added if someone were willing enough to champion them and capable of pointing out what would make them prog or prog related. Personally, I agree with some of your suggestions, disagree with a couple, and I am not familiar with some of the other bands. Fortunately, for everyone involved I have no say in who goes into prog related and who doesn't.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 18:59
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topic moved to appropriate Prog Related lounge.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 11 2009 at 14:47
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Hi,
I never thought that Budgie was a prog band ... mushc the same I never thought that Rush was a prog band either ... simply because it has long cuts! It's nice music ... and sometimes very nice ... and a wonderful play on rock radio now and then ... you'll get calls as to who it is on the spot! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 12 2009 at 10:26
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Hi, Rush is a prog band. |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: December 12 2009 at 10:49
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There's no doubt that a Roger Dean sleeve made an album more attractive to many LP buyers. The migration to CD and these days downloads probably means that the artistic merits of the sleeve matter far less these days.
As has been mentioned, Budgie are not listed here as a prog band, but as a band with a relationship to prog. I think that's fair. As i recall, there were several threads discussing them before they were added.
I don' think that the other bands mentioned in the first post here were even prog related (with the possible exception of Boston), but feel free to discuss them in individual threads. I think there will already be threads for most of them though.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 12 2009 at 14:03
| Funny. I always thought of Budgie as a 100% hard-rock band. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: December 13 2009 at 00:25
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: December 13 2009 at 11:15
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Dean wrote:Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: December 13 2009 at 13:14
| Looks like a Roger Dean sleeve Vibe. |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: December 13 2009 at 14:03
Are you telling us that you don't think Cygnus X-1, La Villa Strangiato and YYZ aren't progressive rock? They almost helped define the genre and their 70s stuff is some of the proggiest material ever created. ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: December 13 2009 at 14:25
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I never looked at Rush fas a "prog" band. Always saw them as a hard rock band and back whennI categorized my allbum collection I grouped them in my Canada section with Mahogany Rush, Max Webster, Coney Hatch, Trooper, April Wine, Triumph, Martha & The Muffins and other Canadian bands. Growing up in Canada i never even thought they had made it in other countries and just thought they were a Canadian phenomenom. Sure Hemispheres, 2112 and Farewell To Kings are very "progrock" sounding but it was just a phase for them. as far as I ever saw it. ------------- |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 13 2009 at 19:31
I think that's the point |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: December 31 2009 at 21:30
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Budgie are mostly hard rock, with a few prog elements. The singer doesn't sound a million miles away from Geddy Lee, for example. And there's a few proggy jams on their records, like the midsection in Breadfan. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 05:02
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... and surely any band who records a track called "Nude disintegrating parachutist woman" deserves a place here!
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Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 14:10
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Budgie influenced prog metal, I think. Just listen to Hammers of Misfortune.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: January 05 2010 at 15:53
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Budgie actively denied being a Progressive Rock band in print on the back of one of their album sleeves.
I forget which one, but it's in my record rack somewhere...
If a Roger Dean cover makes a Prog Band, then at least that explains Uriah Heep. But where are Diamond Head?  ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: whydontyoueatcarrots
Date Posted: January 07 2010 at 22:21
| I wondered why they were on this site, hard rock all the way. As proggy as I've ever heard Budgie are the last few minutes of "Hot as a Docker's Armpit." It's pretty epic. |