Best non-prog "modern rock" artist?
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Topic: Best non-prog "modern rock" artist?
Posted By: earlyprog
Subject: Best non-prog "modern rock" artist?
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 14:12
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As the complete prog rock nerd, I would like to expand my knowledge on "modern rock", modern in my terms bring 90's and beyond.
The listed artists have attracted my attention along the way, but I'm not sure which way to turn. I "kind of" like Audioslave and Nine Inch Nails but should I pass my attention on to other "interesting artists for the prog, rock ignorant enthusiast"?
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 14:29
| Definitely Soundgarden. |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 14:48
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Don't really like Korn much, nor Staind and Audioslave is not bad but nothing amazing. AiC and Rage Against The Machine are my 2 favorites of this list, but if I could only choose one, it has to RATM. Tom Morello has had a massive influence on my approach to playing guitar and the band in general just produced nothing other than killer songs with no filler IMO. |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 15:05
| Alice In Chains. Their new album is not bad at all, what confirms they still are important! |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 15:16
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Pumpkins made 2 good albums. Rage made one good album, about 4 times. But I'll vote for Pixies, or Red Hot Chili Peppers personally. For 90s era women, check out Fiona Apple's debut. Recorded when she was VERY young, the material is surprisingly good. ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 15:48
@Finn: wow, I wouldn't have expected to find another Fionna fan here. I was in love with her about 10 years ago (seriously), she embodied my ideal woman.  I voted Rage Against The Machine just above Smashing Pumpkins. From NIN I've only heard their last album (which can be downloaded for free) once and it was interesting. Seems like I've missed a great band? All my friends with good and wide tastes are heavy into NIN. Some of what I've heard on that album is quite experimental and progressive (but not resembling prog by no means). |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 15:53
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Later albums may have drifted to more conventional stuff, but that debut was just fantastic. The long drawn out piano and that voice, the crisp production, stuff like Pale September.....oh man.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 16:01
To whom exactly are you referring? |
Finnforest wrote:Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 16:20
Ms. Apple
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 17:23
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NINer NINer NINer May God have mercy on my dirty little hearts. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 17:23
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The Paper Chase, At the Drive In and A Place to Bury Strangers are the only non-prog rock I like. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 17:25
^ Tidal was an excellent debut - I wasn't too convinced by When The Pawn Hits The Cornflake, but it's still a fair album.
Even though I rate NIN very highly, (especially Downward Spiral and Fragile) I felt compelled to punch the "Other" button and cast a vote for The Manic Street Preachers for their first four albums. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 17:39
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If I had to pick from this list, it would be the Pumpkins. There are a lot of "modern rock" bands that are better though, but I'm not really sure if you're looking at all of modern rock or just the mainstream alternative kind of rock bands. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Kestrel
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 17:39
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I wasn't aware good (non-prog) modern rock existed. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 17:40
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Soundgarden of course - Badmototfinger and Superunknown are some of the gratest albums of the 90s imagine albums with 14 tracks and no filler (so as I see it ) just a creative bunch I have to check out more Smashing Pumpkin ( I realy love their two Batman & Robin film songs) (which is probably the only good thing about the 4th Batman movie - The End is the Beginning the End & The Beginning is the End the Beginning Audioslave is cool, RATM is cool and I like Red Hot Chili Peppar and NIN but also Deftones, Fatih No More, some Offspring and Prodigy |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 18:07
Agreed. Just look at these tracks, all written by her from age 15-18 or so. Not a clunker in the bunch, though some people might be sick of the singles. I had 3rd row seats to her first visit to Mpls, and sitting a few yards away as she did "Never is a Promise" and "Pale September" is one of my fondest concert memories upon hundreds of shows. Anyone who hasn't heard this album may wish to check it out. It's a classic. Tidal
 ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 18:09
Well for me, they have a better batting average than the 70s. :P Although I do have to say that generally alt-rock is pretty annoying. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 18:26
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Pearl Jam, no doubt. Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Audioslave, Incubus and Red Hot Chili Peppers are very good too. |
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 21:25
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i submit that there are none -------------  Time always wins. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 22:08
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Hmm...of this list, I would probably say Incubus (who verge on the psychedelic anyways), but as I've always noticed, I unconsciously drift towards artists that are art rocky...a puzzle! I shall have to think of an other. (That said, what little of NIN I've heard has yet to let me down, so, kudos there I suppose.) ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 22:14
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You talk about guilty pleasures; my favorite female artist was Nelly Furtado, based solely on the debut. Which is why I hated the latest one so much. Or, as a friend of mine said, "Of you liked the debut and hated her latest album. The first one was a jazz, trip hop, folk, pop album, and the latest one was something people listen to." ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 22:17
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The Smashing Pumpkins and Soundgarden are my favourite from that list, I voted for the Pumpkins
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 22:28
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Red Hot Chili Peppers, followed by Rage Against the Machine and Queens of the Stone Age.
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Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 23:33
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Smashing Pumpkins and Nine Inch Nails.
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 07:47
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Red Hot Chili Peppers get mentioned alot. One of the first non-prog bands I checked out but it never got further than that.
Only one mentioning of Pearl Jam. I like most of what I hear on the radio, but where to start with them, it seems their discography is huge.
I had high expectations of Queens of the Stone Age, but when I eventually heard one of their (few?) albums (an anniversary album of some sort) I was quite disappointed.
You got me interested in Fiona Apple. I'll try to find her debut.
The Pixies get praised alot in the press. Another band to check out I guess.
Deftones, Faith No More, Offspring, Prodigy, Manic Street Preachers. I will keep those in mind.
Never heard of Plainview's suggestions (Paper Chase, At The Drive In, A Place to Bury Stranger), but they puzzled me enough to go try and seek out.
And now I'll go and get that free download of NIN's latest.
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Posted By: ko
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 08:12
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I dont know exactly, but The Soundtrack Of Our Lives are come in mind ......................................! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0w7O5BhRnw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0w7O5BhRnw |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 08:19
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The NIN album gets better on the last tracks... don't quit it after the first ones! The Pixies also have a free download, four nice songs from a concert this autumn: http://www.pixiesmusic.com/splash.html - http://www.pixiesmusic.com/splash.html It's nothing spectacular but it does make me want to check them out. Here's a taste of Fiona Apple: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAPLta7sYr8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAPLta7sYr8 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I75_jdbPOZ4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I75_jdbPOZ4 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gLWTtlMwo4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gLWTtlMwo4 (beware it's pop not rock). At The Drive In is the hardcore band which led to the formation of The Mars Volta. |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 08:37
| Upon downloading NIN's "Ghosts I" for free I realized that this is not their latest. But I am pleasantly surprised with Ghosts. Now found "The Slip" for free downloading. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 08:54
| Yeah I was talking about The Slip. Where did you find that other album? |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 08:56
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As far as Fiona samples, those are some poppier ones: Look instead for samples of Pale September, Sullen Girl, Slow Like Honey, The Child is Gone, Carrion. Some of these tracks will give you the jazzier element which best showcases her voice and piano.
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 09:03
http://ghosts.nin.com/ - http://ghosts.nin.com/
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 09:04
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Out of this list definitely Alice in Chains, but I could mention RHCP as well and Faith No More and Nirvana and The National and Green Day and... ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 09:21
Thanks!  |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 09:33
I have the entire Ghosts (hard copy, though I tried the free tracks before I bought). It's not your standard NIN, profanity free as there are no vocals. 
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Posted By: ko
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 12:38
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Portraits of Past
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr3TRZYq3Ag - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr3TRZYq3Ag
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 17:01
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Definitely The Arctic Monkeys. Very British band so I don't know whether you non-British folk would get a lot of the lyrical content, but the music is still great. By far the greatest Indie Rock band. Just check this out: ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 17:09
That is good. |
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 17:13
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Alice In Chains
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 17:39
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I'm a huge NIN fanboy as many people here probably know and I can really not reccomend them enough. The Downward Spiral and The Fragile are two of my favorite albums of all time.
You'll notice a lot of people mentioned them, it's for a reason. I hesitate to say them because really it's a project of Trent Reznor but it's whatever then. ------------- 
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 17:53
Great post. That album and Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes are probably my two favorite "female singer/songwriter" albums. |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: November 30 2009 at 03:11
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Going by the bands on the poll I'll choose Soundgarden. Choosing from currently active bands, however, I'll say Boris.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: November 30 2009 at 03:46
RATM from the list, although I chose other and went for Death Cab For Cutie  ------------- 
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Posted By: Synchestra
Date Posted: November 30 2009 at 04:54
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I went for NIN, truly amazing if your in the mood for it ------------- 'Yeah, thats.. Whatever you're talking about for ya' - Zapp brannigan |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: November 30 2009 at 09:13
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My knowledge of Nine Inch Nails is limited to Ghosts I and Things Falling Apart (for some reason I didn't succeed in dowloading the Slip), nonetheless I'm wondering if they wouldn't fit in PA's Prog Related section. Sure it must have been suggested before?
Edit: They were suggested for inclusion a year ago by a newbie who apparently got scared (first and only post) away by the responses. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53003&KW=Nine+inch+nails&PID=3020306#3020306 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53003&KW=Nine+inch+nails&PID=3020306#3020306
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: November 30 2009 at 10:20
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Pearl Jam for sure... Someone ask for where to start with them, I say Vs, Ten or Yield are their best stuff...
This is turning into a Fionna Apple's thread right...??? I like a lot more Tori Amos... Little Earthquakes is a great album... but Fionna is fine as well... have a couple of albums somewhere but she doesn't keep my atention too much... ------------- |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: November 30 2009 at 10:55
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1. Red Hot Chili peppers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2. Soundgarden 3. Alice in Chains 4. Temple of the Dog 5. Pearl Jam 6. Stone Temple Pilots 7. Faith no More 8. Nirvana 9. Mudhoney But the best band to start with if you're new to non-prog ( ) is probably Soundgarden, since they use odd time signatures and tunings at times, aswell as "cryptic" lyrics.All the bands i mentioned are great, though! |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 30 2009 at 12:07
Not knocking the band, but I like actual red hot chili peppers better, habaneros, thai bird, serranos, jalapenos, scotch bonnets, tabascos... ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: November 30 2009 at 13:43
Just watch:
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Posted By: Lost Follower
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 04:33
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Not one of the groups listed could lace the boots of Arcade Fire. ------------- ~Jump you f**ker jump~ |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 05:00
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Allowing multiple votes was a mistake wasn't it. ------------- What? |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 05:12
I guess I wouldn't gain anything by reporting it as abuse
That's what too much freedom leads to.
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Posted By: ProgBob
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 06:21
I guess the problem with this list is that it has a very narrow definition of 'rock'. ------------- Bob |
Posted By: Lost Follower
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 07:06
Indeed, labels are a bad thing. ------------- ~Jump you f**ker jump~ |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 07:28
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Out of the list Soundgarden.They were simply an incredible band and Chris Cornell's voice could peel paint off of a wall.
I am not surprised that no one has mentioned Silverchair,but I have to give them some props.While a bit crude,I liked their first album when it came out,and thought Freakshow was a big improvement.For being so young they were very mature musically.If they had continued in the vein of their first two albums I would have wrote them off,but they radically changed their sound on their next 3 albums.Daniel Johns' singing/lyric & songwriting really improved,and his string arrangements are superb.I consider their 2002 album "Diorama" damn near a masterpiece. -------------  |
Posted By: Citizen Erased
Date Posted: December 02 2009 at 15:50
That's a bit narrow minded isn't it.  I can name millions of bands I like from any genre and a little less number of prog bands. ------------- And lo, the mighty riffage was played and it was good 
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: December 02 2009 at 17:46
Isn't it always? You know better than me that any poll with multiple votes is a "Prove your fanboyism by giving your favorite band 100 votes" poll. -------------
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 03 2009 at 02:38
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On the subject of polls, will anyone make it so that nobody can vote on it more than once?
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Posted By: ko
Date Posted: December 04 2009 at 14:28
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VUE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIfAQ_7mfhA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIfAQ_7mfhA
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: December 05 2009 at 14:15
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Thanks, all you respondees.
Looks like Soundgarden and Nine Inch Nails are very appreciated by PA members. In fact sevral hundred times more than other bands
Anyway, someone said my definition was very limited. That's funny because I never defined "modern rock", but yes I only mentioned artists that get played on a socalled "modern rock radio". However, were I to define "modern rock" I would probably, say any rock post-Nirvana-Nevermind. Typical me, almost 20 years after it's release I am able to appreciate that album for what it is: just plain great. Wonder how you define "modern rock"?
Apparently "modern rock" only applies to US bands?! I'm surprised so few UK (or non-US) artists were highlighted by you. I guess you feel like me that the best rock apparently comes from the US. Come on, only two UK bands mentioned! Are you serious?
During the past week I have really come to love Nine Inch Nails! What a great band. Almost prog to my ears. Followed by Silverchair's unique mix of Beatlesque rock and string orchestra and Smashing Pumpkins. Then my initial fancy, Audioslave, and I now understand why: too my ears very 70's sounding like I love it.
I don't know which band that follows. Could be Rage Against The Machine (admittedly they got something unique that I like) Korn or Soundgarden. I wish I could support all those of you that voted the latter the best artist, but I can't. Incubus could also grow on me over time.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 05 2009 at 23:36
| Have voted "Other". Don't know if I can quite call it ROCK, but Grace by miles and miles and miles. The marvellous voice of Jeff Buckley defeats other considerations easily for me. Definitely my favourite 90s and onwards album across genres. From the list, would have chosen Soundgarden. |
Posted By: jplanet
Date Posted: December 06 2009 at 02:19
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Out of the list, Soundgarden, but my favorite is Jane's Addiction - I'm pretty surprised they haven't been mentioned yet, actually...
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Posted By: Citizen Erased
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 17:45
That might be because the poll lets you vote again. ------------- And lo, the mighty riffage was played and it was good
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 17:51
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Well that was a waste of time! ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: d.o.k
Date Posted: December 08 2009 at 14:39
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Wow ! Soundgarden is really appreciated. Smashing Pumpkins fan here, a band I consider definitely as prog-related. Mellon Collie is just amazing, just as Adore or Siamese Dream. Just listen to these epics and come back ! Starla (Pisces Iscariot) Thru the eyes of ruby (Mellon Collie...) Porcelina of the vast oceans (Mellon Collie...) XYU (Mellon Collie...) Glass & the ghost children (Machina...) I am really surprised this band is not yet in the archives ! ------------- my band : http://lgab.tk - http://lgab.tk |
Posted By: ProgressiveAttic
Date Posted: December 08 2009 at 15:56
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Les Claypool has very proggy tendencies (well... he covered Pink Floyd's Animals in its entirety, Shine On You Crazy Diamond and King Crimson's Thela Hun Ginjeet) ------------- Michael's Sonic Kaleidoscope Mondays 5:00pm EST(re-runs Thursdays 3:00pm) @ Delicious Agony Progressive Rock Radio(http://www.deliciousagony.com) 
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Posted By: ko
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 12:34
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Ana Popovic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b5zHzsEr48 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b5zHzsEr48
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Posted By: Mitch17
Date Posted: December 12 2009 at 22:00
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I think Death Cab for Cutie |
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: December 13 2009 at 00:06
| Justin Bieber |
Posted By: Zebedee
Date Posted: December 13 2009 at 09:12
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REM (I'm surprised they aren't listed)
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: December 15 2009 at 21:13
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I'm tossing up between Alice In Chains and Soundgarden from this list. As much as a proghead I am, I enjoy other kinds of rock and metal as well. The only band from the big four of grunge (AIC, Nirvana, Soundgarden, and Pearl Jam) I haven't got into yet is Pearl Jam. I don't dislike 'em, just haven't really heard enough of them to form an opinion yet. I quite like the Pumpkins, Incubus, and RATM. Audioslave are OK but nothing new, really. Cornell still sounds great as always, though. Still need to hear NIN properly. What album should I check out? Downward Spiral is one I hear good things about. The Chilli Peppers are pretty good. I have one Korn album (Issues) which is not bad. I'm still deciding between AIC and Soundgarden. Both sound a lot like one of my favourite bands (Black Sabbath), have great vocalists (in AIC's case, both Layne Staley and the new guy William DuVall), and guitarists. And the new AIC album is very good, a lot better than I was expecting. I'll go for AIC. But Soundgarden is close behind. Also, is the new Dave Grohl/Josh Homme/John Paul Jones supergroup (Them Crooked Vultures) any good? ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: December 15 2009 at 21:17
Oooh, good choice. I really admire Jeff Buckley's work as well. He's not prog, but his voice has the same quality as a Thom Yorke, Steve Wilson, or Matt Bellamy. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 15 2009 at 21:20
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The Smashing Pumpkins are unfathomably more interesting than anyone else on this list. :) ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |