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Topic: The "I like more obscure bands than you" threadPosted By: The Pessimist
Subject: The "I like more obscure bands than you" thread
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 18:11
This seems to be a little popular trend over the archives, and most of you are guilty in some way. I'm talking about in listy kinds of threads when you find some satisfaction in saying that the most obscure band on your iTunes is your favourite. Don't worry, I do it all the time, and it is fun, so I made a wole thread about it. You can even call it a competition
Hopefully you all know what I'm talking about, I do come across as quite cryptic (unintentionally) sometimes
And try to mention bands you actually KNOW and not some random band off the archives listings that nobody including yourself has heard of please. I know what you internet folk are like...
I'll start us off.
Has anyone heard of that band....... Jig Ai from the Czech Republic? They are actually remarkably good.
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Arnold Schoenberg
Replies: Posted By: rpe9p
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 18:20
Awww I was hoping this would be a thread where we could bitch about people's musical elitism. Right now im listening to Bla Vardag by Atlas which I guess is slightly obscure and its a really good album.
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 18:23
You mean stuff like Epignosis, or Casualties of Applied Metaphysics? No one knows what the hell those are.
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 18:27
Padraic wrote:
You mean stuff like Epignosis, or Casualties of Applied Metaphysics? No one knows what the hell those are.
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 18:41
How popular is Nil? I am just hearing them for the first time and wanted to say that it is awesome, I don't really care how obscure it is.
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 18:47
Epignosis wrote:
Padraic wrote:
You mean stuff like Epignosis, or Casualties of Applied Metaphysics? No one knows what the hell those are.
Stuff it, troll.
Epignosis? Didn't they record that album Still The Waters? Man I hate that album
Currently listening to Abraxas - Rolo Tomassi
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 18:51
I prefer to be pretentious by pretending that I treat all musical genres equally and overplaying how much I listen to classical music. Being elitist by being ostentatiously non-elitist is so much more satisfying.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 18:56
Kolkhöze Printanium
139 plays (5 listeners)
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 18:58
While I only have listened to them like once, I have some really obscure albums from eMusic, although with the new download policy I've gotten much less obscure because 4 track albums are a lot less cheap. I think DAAU, Crimetime Orchestra, Pierre-yves Mache, and Stuart Leibeg are the most obscure albums I've downloaded from them.
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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 20:11
Been listening to http://www.morezvukov.nl/SkazyLesa/index.html - Skazy Lesa this evening and trying to decide if I like them or not. They're definitely obscure out here in the cultural wasteland known as the American Midwest.
Apparently "Their name is well known in music-lovers circles of Russia" though, according to their bio.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 20:19
- Hannah Montana - Selena Gomez - Demi Lovato - The Jonas Brothers
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 20:22
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 20:23
The Quiet One wrote:
- Hannah Montana - Selena Gomez - Demi Lovato - The Jonas Brothers
Bands, Pablo.
And what?
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 20:26
Ricochet wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
- Hannah Montana - Selena Gomez - Demi Lovato - The Jonas Brothers
Bands, Pablo.
And what?
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I'm putting Seesselberg on the table.
Okay, The Jonas Brothers stands then. Do you know them? No. Then I definitely listen to more obscure bands than you.
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 20:44
Good idea for a thread but like rpe9p I too was about to
launch into a close fisted slap at name dropping trendies and 'more
esoteric than thou' evangelists. Bah...foiled.
As for obscure. Panta Rhei from Hungary were top notch (Organ,synth, bass & drums adaptations of Bartok on an album called erm...Bartok, not a kick in the backside off ELP on the latter's debut)
Are Russia's the Gourishanker obscure ? (I mean I never hear them mentioned in the forums) but 2nd Hands is one of the best albums of the noughties for me.
Iceland's Thursaflokkurin are also rather unjustly neglected, being an unlikely but fascinating cocktail of Nordic folk, avant touches,symph and austere classical leanings.
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 20:55
To most of the people I interact with in my daily life, my musical tastes are impossibly obscure.
To the people on this forum, I might as well be listening to Britney Spears.
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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 20:58
A Person wrote:
Kolkhöze Printanium
139 plays (5 listeners)
GREAT! now everyone knows about them! Thanks to James.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 21:12
Ever hear of Acid Enema? No, not this metal band http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=10898 - http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=10898 formed in 1995 (as I see someone else took the name), the short-lived high-school garage cum lavatory band formed in 1986. I provided the rude noises -- it was very avant.
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 21:15
ExittheLemming wrote:
Are Russia's the Gourishanker obscure ? (I mean I never hear them mentioned in the forums) but 2nd Hands is one of the best albums of the noughties for me.
I have that album and have even reviewed it. So, by definition, it can't be obscure. Or not that obcure. I'm not too much into digging, to be honest...
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 21:16
the obscure bands I like are so obscure they don't exist, such as Serbia's Obeležiti zvezdama and Tch'uulim from Papuan New Guinea
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 21:22
I don't know if you guys have heard of The Last Things, but they released one excellent prog metal album in the early 90's and then disappeared into oblivion. If you can track it down, Circles and Butterflies is one of the best albums in my collection.
-Jeff
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 21:29
Besides Kolkoze, I haven't even heard of any of the other bands mentioned here. I guess I'm not as obscure as I thought, so it's back to reading Pitchfork. :(
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 21:40
The reason Kolkhoze is popular is because everyone raves about it in SR.
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 22:54
It's such a bogus charge and frankly I'm pretty tired of it. I listen
to lots of hugely popular bands and I listen to lots of stuff that 5
people have heard of. I do so because there are oodles of great bands
below the radar and I enjoy them, not because I'm elitist or believe
there my listening choices dictate my status in some way.
This OP was making a light-hearted thread and that's fine. But
sometimes, in some threads, the charge is real and it is frustrating
because it is largely false. The people who want to jump on others because they believe them "name droppers" need to realize that some folks just enjoy lots of local and regional acts who the masses may never hear. It's not some elitist act on the part of these listeners, in many cases. It's music fans enjoying artists they have stumbled across--which I always thought was the point.
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: November 07 2009 at 00:08
I've yet to meet someone who listens to or knows of the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band at all. Chances are somebody on this site has, but everybody I know in person isn't very into music.
Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: November 07 2009 at 00:48
When actively pursuing music this happens..
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: November 07 2009 at 03:21
Interestingly enough, my musical tastes were far more obscure when I was 17 than they are now. I'm not sure how this came to be, but no matter. I still enjoy my music just the same.
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Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: November 07 2009 at 10:13
Capability Brown, Gnidrolog, Blaze, Empire, Bacamarte (not so obscure), and Ilai Ashdot.
How's that for I LIKE MORE OBSCURE BANDS THAN YOU?
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 07 2009 at 10:48
Lets see:
Abbhama: An Indonesian band leaded by the multi instrumentalist Iwan Madjib, who released oine alnbum in cassette format on 1978 (Alam Raya). Sounds like a YES made in Bollywood (Not Hollywood)....Very adictive.
Nautilus (Switzerland):Very rare Symphonic band, when we were searching for a new bio, the only info in the whole net was my review of "20,000 Miles Under the Sea" ,now we ahve two reviews.
Iván
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: November 07 2009 at 14:11
Cable Regime : I have 1 CD from this band more or less related to Godflesh. I'm not sure every fan of Justin Broadrick heard of them. Head Like A Hole: a short-lived band from New Zealand, playing a sort of crossover/thrash/fusion style. Too bad the only album I have has a weak sound. Thollem McDonas: American pianist specialised in improvised music. I already have 2 CD and made a CD-R with the various mp3 you can get on his site. Peeping Tom: a French/Swedish trio bombing standards of Charlie Parker, Bud Powell, Thelonious Monk... I saw them live twice, they are great!!!
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 02:33
There are a lot of obscure bands and artists I adore but I can't think of any I would put right in my absolute favourites without hesitation. I tend to go with the well known names, either famous in the entire music community (Beatles, Who) or within the respective genres (Gentle Giant). And barring Jeff Buckley, they all have at least a few original studio albums if not many. Not much of a pretentious proghead, am I? Just joking! Anyway, @ topic, Runemagick, a not too well known death-doom metal band, excellent stuff for those who like it.
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 02:48
Blowin Free wrote:
Capability Brown, Gnidrolog, Blaze, Empire, Bacamarte (not so obscure), and Ilai Ashdot.
How's that for I LIKE MORE OBSCURE BANDS THAN YOU?
I've heard of all of those artists, and YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LIST YOURSELF
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 05:26
I do like a lot of obscure artists, but definitely not because they are obscure; I like them because they are good. and I do everything to make them lesss obscure and better known. anybody who has not given The Red Masque a try should definitely do so; start with "Feathers for Flesh" try to get a hold on one of the albums of Psychedelic Monsterjam (which will be difficult because they were released in a limited edition of a few thousand only). get "Die Krautrock-Explosion", the only album of Amon Guru, a German all-star project featuring members of Guru Guru, Amon Düül 2, Faust, Cluster and Die Krupps. discover RoRo, a two man project featuring Roland Schaeffer of Guru Guru, Embryo and Brainstorm on all kinds of wind instruments and Roman Bunka of Embryo on oud and guitar; here a live clip of them with Ramesh Shotam, one of the leading drummers and percussionists in the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v-73YP-LR8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v-73YP-LR8 another clip of RoRo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuBTcqF_vBg - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuBTcqF_vBg
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 05:32
Amon Guru? With members of Guru Guru, ADII, Faust, Cluster, Die Krüpps???? Mein Gott!!! This has to be the Ultimate Grosse Unglaubische Wünderbach Krautrock Extravaganza!!!
Yes, my German linguage skills are very poor.
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 05:39
CPicard wrote:
Amon Guru? With members of Guru Guru, ADII, Faust, Cluster, Die Krüpps???? Mein Gott!!! This has to be the Ultimate Grosse Unglaubische Wünderbach Krautrock Extravaganza!!!
Yes, my German linguage skills are very poor.
this is the line-up: - Werner 'Zappi' Diermaier of Faust / percussion - Jürgen Engler of Die Krupps / synth, talkbox, guitar - Chris Karrer of Amon Düül 2 / violin, sax - Dieter Moebius of Cluster / synth - Mani Neumeier of Guru Guru / drums - Jean-Hervé Péron of Faust / bass, vocals, trumpet, acoustic guitar
their music can be described as "making noises over strong rhythmic patterns". therei s hardly any melody, at best a four tone motif being repeated quite often. one track ("Sumpfige Wasser") has a very remote resemblance to Rock 'n Roll, but it really is VERY remote, with a kind of lead guitar even; it is by far the most melodic track on the album
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 05:42
Accepting music that is introduced to you within your own culture is easy, actually branching out and searching for the unusual or avant-garde well out of your comfort zone takes a lot of effort and open-mindedness which should be second nature to experienced lovers of Prog - though do many of us bother to do this?
That obscure folk-prog band from a little rural village in Rumania is waiting to be discovered, though more than likely they're all probably into Madonna by now and left their instruments in the shed...
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Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 08:51
progkidjoel wrote:
Blowin Free wrote:
Capability Brown, Gnidrolog, Blaze, Empire, Bacamarte (not so obscure), and Ilai Ashdot.
How's that for I LIKE MORE OBSCURE BANDS THAN YOU?
I've heard of all of those artists, and YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LIST YOURSELF
For the record, the Blaze I'm talking about is the one that Colin Carter, Mike Hough, and Ray Bennett formed after Flash, without Peter Banks, whose recordings are rare as f**k. Empire is the Peter Banks band that he formed with then-wife Sydney Foxx.
Posted By: splyu
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 10:48
My tastes in prog aren't particularly obscure I guess, most of my favourite prog bands are well known, except for some of the metal ones perhaps, but even those won't be terribly obscure to people around here. I guess the most obscure artist on the archives whom I actually listen to on a regular basis would be David Bedford. I'm sure many people have heard his name and some have heard some of his music, but I have a feeling not too many people really dig his stuff.
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 11:53
Finnforest wrote:
It's such a bogus charge and frankly I'm pretty tired of it. I listen
to lots of hugely popular bands and I listen to lots of stuff that 5
people have heard of. I do so because there are oodles of great bands
below the radar and I enjoy them, not because I'm elitist or believe
there my listening choices dictate my status in some way.
This OP was making a light-hearted thread and that's fine. But
sometimes, in some threads, the charge is real and it is frustrating
because it is largely false. The people who want to jump on others because they believe them "name droppers" need to realize that some folks just enjoy lots of local and regional acts who the masses may never hear. It's not some elitist act on the part of these listeners, in many cases. It's music fans enjoying artists they have stumbled across--which I always thought was the point.
Will you ever stop making sense?
I'm sick of agreeing with you.
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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 12:03
You mean obscure like dark or unknown?
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Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 12:08
avestin wrote:
Blowin Free wrote:
Capability Brown, Gnidrolog, Blaze, Empire, Bacamarte (not so obscure), and Ilai Ashdot.
How's that for I LIKE MORE OBSCURE BANDS THAN YOU?
אז אולי במקום להמשיך להיות אלמוני תנסה לקדם את המוזיקה שלך ?
נו הנה, עכשיו קידמתי
Do you speak hebrew, or did you use Google Trasslate?
Posted By: Xanthous
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 14:33
himtroy wrote:
I've yet to meet someone who listens to or knows of the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band at all. Chances are somebody on this site has, but everybody I know in person isn't very into music.
Yeah, I've heard of them, but I haven't had many chances to actually listen to them.
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 15:23
DRAGO
MLINAREC
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Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 15:45
Xanthous wrote:
himtroy wrote:
I've yet to meet someone who listens to or knows of the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band at all. Chances are somebody on this site has, but everybody I know in person isn't very into music.
Yeah, I've heard of them, but I haven't had many chances to actually listen to them.
It's good stuff. Very 60's psych rock. It's the kind of band that will go from a very poppy sixties sounding song, followed by moments of noise and psychedelia.
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 19:53
I used to do that. Then I repented and ranted at those I thought were guilty of it. So i don't really care about complicated or obscure music. It just not something that proves my superiority in musical taste.
And really, now I just don't have the time. I've been transcribing Stockhausen's Hymnen Region I & II for guitar, banjo & Ukelele. So far , me & my guitar playing mate have one gig lined up to play Region I. He just has to clean his room and his Mom will let him have people over to hear us play. His older brother says he can , ahem, "help" those in attendance "appreciate" the music more, but we'll have to make sure his mom's away, and that we have breath mints available & Lysol handy ...
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 20:08
debrewguy wrote:
I used to do that. Then I repented and ranted at those I thought were guilty of it. So i don't really care about complicated or obscure music. It just not something that proves my superiority in musical taste.
And really, now I just don't have the time. I've been transcribing Stockhausen's Hymnen Region I & II for guitar, banjo & Ukelele. So far , me & my guitar playing mate have one gig lined up to play Region I. He just has to clean his room and his Mom will let him have people over to hear us play. His older brother says he can , ahem, "help" those in attendance "appreciate" the music more, but we'll have to make sure his mom's away, and that we have breath mints available & Lysol handy ...
Artificial appreciation? I've never thought of it that way.
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 21:05
NǽnøĉÿbbŒrğ VbëřřĦōlökäävsŦ
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 14:06
Pfff. It's all a fake.
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 15:07
I don't understand the half of things you mention... for the amount of reviews I've seen, these should be good oscure bands...
- Diablo Swing Orchestra
-Mechanical Poet
-Anubis Gate
but I'm not sure how obscure they are... jejeje..
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 16:50
topofsm wrote:
NǽnøĉÿbbŒrğ VbëřřĦōlökäävsŦ
I think we have a winner. I have heard of them, but with an title you can't even pronounce, and music that isn't really music, it doesn't get any more obscure than that.
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Arnold Schoenberg
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 16:59
^It's pronounced Nanocyborg Uberholocaust
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 18:46
Most obscure bands that usually when someone came in, they vote for ELP or CAMEL.
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Posted By: Hyardacil
Date Posted: November 10 2009 at 12:26
They are listed in PA, but I'm willing to bet you haven't heard them still.
Mess.
Probably the first or one of the first true soviet prog bands.
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Posted By: POSW
Date Posted: November 11 2009 at 01:55
I have never met anyone (besides my own brother) in person who has
heard of Phideaux, so I guess that makes them obscure, and they're one
of my favorite bands.
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Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: November 11 2009 at 09:23
CPicard wrote:
Cable Regime : I have 1 CD from this band more or less related to Godflesh. I'm not sure every fan of Justin Broadrick heard of them.
I have two Cable Regime CDs! Good stuff, It's Paul Neville from Streetcleaner-era Godflesh's band.
Sweet Tooth are another Godflesh related band - Broadrick on guitar, Dave Cochrane (ex Head of David) on bass and vocals, and Scott Kiehl (ex Slab) on drums.
When it comes to obscure bands, Japan's Les Rallizes Dénudés are hard to beat. Anyone a fan?
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