Show us your keys
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Topic: Show us your keys
Posted By: Jim Garten
Subject: Show us your keys
Date Posted: May 16 2005 at 07:30
This is a response to Danbo's "show us your axe" thread - everyone wants to see peoples' guitars, but howsabout members keyboards...?
Here's my little beastie (an old and not very good piccie, but you get the drift)
1971 Hammond L122 with its faithful companion, a good old Leslie 145
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Posted By: Barbarian
Date Posted: May 16 2005 at 08:03
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: May 16 2005 at 19:42
I hate you both.
My only keyboard (and it's not even my pic):
My only consolation is that it gives me access to any sound my PC can produce, which includes emulated versions of both of the above classics. So I'm still (but just barely) competitive.
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Posted By: arcer
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 06:13
I'm the same as James I'm afraid....
evolution mk361
allows me to noodle with
B4
ImpOscar
Elektrik Piano
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 11:53
sorry... i just couldn't resist
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 07:15
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 19:52
half decent anyway
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 01:15
Barbarian wrote:
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You are so lying!! This didn't even go into production did it?
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 18:43
utah_man wrote:
sorry... i just couldn't resist
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Damnit...I was gonna do that
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 04:56
Jim Garten wrote:
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What's that on the right, a TARDIS?
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 03:43
PHILLISTINE!
Ahem - the Tardis on the right is a Leslie 145; home to a powerful valve amplifier, driving a 15" bass speaker facing downward into a rotating drum, and a treble driver facing upward into twin rotating horns, the speed of which is controlled by a switch on the Hammond.
Now go stand in the corner, you wind up merchant!
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 05:28
To be fair, the Leslie was in fact developed to alter the sound's apparent Time And Relative Dimesnions In Space.
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 18:58
YAMAHA PSR262
Nothing special, but good enough.
And it only cost £70.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 24 2005 at 03:15
Valarius wrote:
YAMAHA PSR262
Nothing special, but good enough.
And it only cost £70. |
Dont knock it, V - I've got a DJX1 myself (again, only £70 from Ebay); some of Yamaha's lower price keyboards are very well thought out, a joy to play (even for a novice like me), and with midi interface, you've got a Mellotron right there...
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: May 24 2005 at 14:12
When I go off to uni I'll look at getting some free softsynths and plugging my keyboard into my PC. The bugger being the only PC that's mine is at minute completely devoid of anything...
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: May 24 2005 at 16:29
I know how to use all the buttons with numbers and letters on 'em. I haven't figured out what the others are for. What's a Num Lock anyway?
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Posted By: Harlequin
Date Posted: May 25 2005 at 14:23
Jim Garten wrote:
Dont knock it, V - I've got a DJX1 myself (again, only £70 from Ebay); some of Yamaha's lower price keyboards are very well thought out, a joy to play (even for a novice like me), and with midi interface, you've got a Mellotron right there... |
Eek. I wasnt brave enough to admit i had a DJX. Bought as a midi controller keyboard but with more keys than a plain controller and a cheesy on board sound set as a bonus. Come On!!
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Knowledge is not wisdom
Wisdom is not truth
Truth is not beauty
Beauty is not love
Love is not music
Music is the best...
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 03:13
Harlequin wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
Dont knock it, V - I've got a DJX1 myself (again, only £70 from Ebay); some of Yamaha's lower price keyboards are very well thought out, a joy to play (even for a novice like me), and with midi interface, you've got a Mellotron right there... |
Eek. I wasnt brave enough to admit i had a DJX. Bought as a midi controller keyboard but with more keys than a plain controller and a cheesy on board sound set as a bonus. Come On!! |
Not to mention the huge 2 inch ribbon controller
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 07:36
Believe it or not, this is a genuine album cover...
It's not my intention to be at all offensive with this, but I had to show you people - if anyone is offended, let me know, & I'll delete it.
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 19:37
I'm offended!
(only because I don't have that album...and none of the P2Ps seem to offer any of her mp3s )
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 22:51
Keys, FLA:
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Posted By: Syntharachnid
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 19:01
In my living room...
It's a Yamaha U1. Great upright piano.
In my basement...
The Korg MicroKONTROL. A fairly inexpensive and very small MIDI controller from KORG.
Also in my basement...
Sorry about the small picture. This is a Yamaha Clavinova CLP-840. It's a more than decent digital concert piano that I practiced on before I got the U1. I still love it because it has eight really good voices (Yamaha knocks Roland out of the ball park!).
Also also in my basement...
http://photobucket.com/albums/a199/Syntharachnid/?">
My first keyboard. A very inexpensive Lowrey Micro Genie V100. It has ten very unrealistic voices, and isn't touch sensitive, let alone weighted! However, if I route the audio from my Clavinova into here, and turn them both up to full volume, I get some killer distortion without having to buy a fancy pedal!
On my computer in my basement...
Arturia's Minimoog V. Great soft-synth simulation of the origianal. So says Bob Moog himself.
In my laundry room...
An old unassembled church organ which doesn't make a sound anymore.
No, really.
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Posted By: oVerCaffeinated
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 10:03
KORG M1 (1988)
Got it second hand. I love it
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Posted By: R.Darkmoon
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 18:57
Damn. I've got a Casio somethingoranother... It's so crappy that I won't eve search for a pic
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Posted By: yesman72
Date Posted: September 02 2005 at 19:23
Does anyone know af a keyboard that can reproduce classic sounds like Hammonds or Mellotrons along with the basic stuff like pianos and electric pianos? Just curious .
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: September 02 2005 at 19:28
You'd be best off using a MIDI keyboard and an external unit for sounds like that. I don't know what the hardware options are but there's plenty of software.
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: September 05 2005 at 14:18
Posted By: Jaydubz
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 18:28
yesman72 wrote:
Does anyone know af a keyboard that can reproduce classic sounds like Hammonds or Mellotrons along with the basic stuff like pianos and electric pianos? Just curious .
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As mentioned above, the Nord Electro/2 "Virtual Electromechanical" kicks ass in terms of simulating Hammonds/Rhodes/Wurlys/Clavinets/CP70s. I use the 73-key model as my master keyboard, it's there hiding underneath the Karma. As for Melloton? I swear by the M-Tron soft-synth - built from over 2 gigs of Mellotron samples from assorted revs. of the Mighty 'Tron...it blows away any Mellotron samples I have on assorted romplers.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 18 2006 at 07:39
James Lee wrote:
If you search a bit, the old Emu Vintage Keys module will get you all of the sounds you're looking for (they're samples, but they do sound pretty good, and it adds some classic synth sounds as
well). |
I've considered getting a 2nd hand one of these for a while, as they tend to come up on Ebay quite often; they got good reviews when first released, but has anyone actually used one? I'd be interested in knowing exactly how good the Mellotron samples are...
Face it, it's got to be easier than tracking down a decent example of an original, getting a mortgage to pay for it, a second mortgage to have it re-taped & working properly, a third mortgage to have it fixed every time it goes wrong, and medical insurance to cover the chiropractor needed every time you try to move it unassisted
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Posted By: Richardw
Date Posted: April 18 2006 at 10:46
I have a Moog Opus 3. I still have the receipt too. It cost me £550 in 1981. Nice minimoog sounds, but it's a bit basic.
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Posted By: Jaydubz
Date Posted: April 19 2006 at 00:27
Jim Garten wrote:
I've considered getting a 2nd hand one of these for a while, as they tend to come up on Ebay quite often; they got good reviews when first released, but has anyone actually used one? I'd be interested in knowing exactly how good the Mellotron samples are... |
Jim - I've got an Emu Vintage Pro rompler (the latest rev. of the Vintage keys module), and although the Mellotron samples are tasty - they don't come CLOSE to the MTron softsynth for realism. The MTron costs less than $100.00, and has the BEST Mellotron samples I've ever heard -
http://www.gmediamusic.com/gforce/m-tron/M-Tron.html - http://www.gmediamusic.com/gforce/m-tron/M-Tron.html
Two GIGs+ of Mellotron samples - a veritable "history of the instrument" with 70+ presets from different revs. of the instrument. I've been listening to a lot of Spock's Beard & Porcupine Tree lately, and it's been carrying over into my composing...I've been using a LOT of Mellotron in my arrangements! MTron is the best $100.00 I've spent for my studio in a while!
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Posted By: pierreolivier
Date Posted: April 19 2006 at 14:34
Jim Garten wrote:
I've considered getting a 2nd hand one of these for a while, as they tend to come up on Ebay quite often; they got good reviews when first released, but has anyone actually used one? I'd be interested in knowing exactly how good the Mellotron samples are... |
Jim - I've got an Emu Vintage Pro rompler (the latest rev. of the Vintage keys module), and although the Mellotron samples are tasty - they don't come CLOSE to the MTron softsynth for realism. The MTron costs less than $100.00, and has the BEST Mellotron samples I've ever heard -
http://www.gmediamusic.com/gforce/m-tron/M-Tron.html - http://www.gmediamusic.com/gforce/m-tron/M-Tron.html
Two GIGs+ of Mellotron samples - a veritable "history of the instrument" with 70+ presets from different revs. of the instrument. I've been listening to a lot of Spock's Beard & Porcupine Tree lately, and it's been carrying over into my composing...I've been using a LOT of Mellotron in my arrangements! MTron is the best $100.00 I've spent for my studio in a while!
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I totally agreed with you.the MTron is a lot better than the Vintage keys,who I think is the worst Mellotron replacement tool available on the market.I've tried all Mellotron softwares and personally,I think the best is the CD-ROM of Mike Pinder interactive Mellotron that you can buy in the Mellotron Archives website( http://www.mellotron.com - www.mellotron.com ). You must had an Akai sampler to run it.The M-Tron is a lot more user friendly and contains a lot of the classic sounds.A friend got it on his computer and tried it and was very surprised but (sorry to be such a purist) it will never replace a real mellotron,never in a life.I explain myself....
The MTron can be very good for live playing but the BIG difference came when you record with it.When you record with a real mellotron,you double-tracked it and play two different performances for each track.When you are finished with one track, the pinch rollers on a real mellotron stop at a random place so when you start doing your second performance for your second track,the pinch rollers is not at the same place when you begin the first performance of the first track.When the two tracks are put together,it create a delay that can't be done by any mellotron plug-in available right now on the market.When you record with an MTron and any others plug-in,when you double tracked it,it's always the same note,the same performance and the natural delay created by a real machine is not there.
I know I am a purist but dealing with mellotron(s) since ten years made me think that way.I own an M400 s/n 719 since 1996 (10 years already!) and will never replace it with any kind of plug-in on the market.When you played a real mellotron, you can return back and all the plug-ins and Mtron of the world sound thin in comparaison.When a plug-in with a random pinch-rollers algorithm will comes out(it surely will come out one day),it will be a different story and will surely buy it.But for now,I stick with a real one.
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Posted By: Jaydubz
Date Posted: April 19 2006 at 15:56
Pierre, you lucky man! You are so correct in that nothing short of a Mellotron will get you 100% authenticity. I've only had the pleasure of playing "the real thing" once - at the New England Synthesizer Museum (another bizarre story in itself!), and I wish I had the room (and mechanical ability to keep it up & running!) for one myself.
There's also a new German hardware device that was introduced in the past year - the Memotron
http://www.manikin-electronic.com/en/index.html - http://www.manikin-electronic.com/en/index.html
I wonder how it stacks up on the Mellotron-emulation wars?
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Posted By: pierreolivier
Date Posted: April 19 2006 at 17:34
Jaydubz wrote:
Pierre, you lucky man! You are so correct in that nothing short of a Mellotron will get you 100% authenticity. I've only had the pleasure of playing "the real thing" once - at the New England Synthesizer Museum (another bizarre story in itself!), and I wish I had the room (and mechanical ability to keep it up & running!) for one myself.
There's also a new German hardware device that was introduced in the past year - the Memotron
http://www.manikin-electronic.com/en/index.html - http://www.manikin-electronic.com/en/index.html
I wonder how it stacks up on the Mellotron-emulation wars?
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Thanks Jaydubz,
I was a little afraid to post my comment and be considered a b*****d that have taken his hands on a real mellotron and said that all mellotron emulations are piece of sh*t.The truth is that I tried a good majority of them and was very open minded about them.The lack of physical randomness in the pinch rollers makes those mellotron plug-ins not very credible.Like I said in my previous post,when it's played live and in real time,it's OK but when double-tracking in recording is involved, that's when it lack in veracity and sound nothing like a real mellotron.When a plug-in that take consideration of the randomness of the pinch rollers will be released, I will be the first to brought it.
Like you said,Jaydubz you have played a mellotron only once but that's all it takes to know the differences between the real thing and samples.In fact, I am a little tired of all who said that the MTron and others emulations can replace a mellotron,that's wrong!Like the Flower Kings,who used an MTron or other samples and writes "Mellotron" on their albums credits.We have the same problems with pop artists here in Quebec with tons of albums that came out lately and contains mellotron sounds.They surely uses MTron or other samples since I never get called for those sessions(we are maybe 4 mellotron owners here in Quebec) but they continue to write "Mellotron" in their credits.The only time I rented my mellotron was for an American jazz band called Medeski,Martin and Wood who need one for a concert here in Montreal jazz festival in 2002.At least, those guys wanted to be "authentic".
Like you said Jaydubz,the "Memotron" was released this year.I must say that the Memotron is nothing more than a midi controller that emulates the mellotron keyboard action with the MTron as a samples source.So, nothing more than an MTron,I'm afraid.
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Posted By: Jaydubz
Date Posted: April 19 2006 at 17:48
Pierre - do you have any music online that features your "real deal"? I'd love to hear that you're doing with it! Again, kudos for going for 100% authenticity...I'm primarily a woodwind player, and always chuckle when I hear anything less than a real woodwind!
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Posted By: pierreolivier
Date Posted: April 19 2006 at 18:29
Jaydubz wrote:
Pierre - do you have any music online that features your "real deal"? I'd love to hear that you're doing with it! Again, kudos for going for 100% authenticity...I'm primarily a woodwind player, and always chuckle when I hear anything less than a real woodwind!
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Unfortunately, no.
I don't have the material to put recordings into computer and frankly never made tapes of me playing my mellotron.I do, otherwise play with a band and uses my mellotron a lot.I have photos, but I'm not able to put them on a computer(don't own a scanner).I would like to put some audio links.Last week, I learned all the mellotron parts from "Si on Avait besoin d'une Cinquième Saison" by Harmonium (what a wonderful album,the mellotron sound perfect on that album,I really recommanded it!) and will be very happy if I recorded those parts.
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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: April 19 2006 at 22:16
arcer wrote:
I'm the same as James I'm afraid....
evolution mk361
allows me to noodle with
B4
ImpOscar
Elektrik Piano
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Nice, I've got the Evolution 461! *drool* over the impOSCar. Does it sound as amazing as I'm guessing it does?
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 03:31
Jaydubz wrote:
There's also a new German hardware device that was introduced in the past year - the Memotron
http://www.manikin-electronic.com/en/index.html - http://www.manikin-electronic.com/en/index.html
I wonder how it stacks up on the Mellotron-emulation wars? |
Sound wise, I've no idea, but looks wise...
I would happily see one of these on top of the ol' Hammond at home...
About €1700.00 though...
WANT ONE!
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 03:37
pierreolivier wrote:
...the Flower Kings,who used an MTron or other samples and writes "Mellotron" on their albums credits. |
It's the same on the Opeth album 'Damnation' - Steve Wilson is credited as playing Mellotron, but on the DVD of the subsequent tour, there's a documentary of the 'making of...'; Steve Wilson used a Nord synth, not a mellotron (although I have to say, it sounds superb on the album & had me fooled).
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Posted By: krusty
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 06:16
No Pics yet but I have the following :-
Roland Fantom Xa Kawai K1 Mk II Korg Triton TR Casio CZ101 Roland MC202 Roland TB303 Roland D110 module Roland JV10 module Yamaha FB01 module Roland TR505 drum machine
I wouldn't mind selling some of the above btw, if anyones interested they can PM me. (I only really want to keep the fantom & the triton)
and I used to have:- Roland SH101 Roland TR-606 Korg poly-800 Moog Prodigy Korg KPR77
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 11:38
Korg Prophecy-Pic.not mine Roland PC160 Midi Controller
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Posted By: MuzikLuva
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 17:55
I've been visiting this site for a couple of years and just
registered. Not sure just yet how to upload pictures. I
have the following:
Alesis QS8
Yamaha SY-22
Yamaha DX-21
Yamaha M06 Workstation
Yamaha TG100 Sound Module
I started off on a baby grand piano that was my mom's first piece of
furniture. She started to teach me at age 4 1/2. I then
went on to play bass and finally was able to afford to purchase
keyboards for myself. Major influences are Wakeman, Emerson,
Moraz, Tony Bank &, Elton John (Tumbleweed Connection - Madman
Across The Water Years).
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