Books In French About Prog/Hard/Rock
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Topic: Books In French About Prog/Hard/Rock
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Subject: Books In French About Prog/Hard/Rock
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 04:20
    Progressive Rock Vinyls by Dominique Dupuis (2009). |
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 10:01
Were you going to share your thoughts on it/them with us? That's what this section is intended for.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 10:58
the book looks really good, i rarely see any books on Prog in this country - perhaps i should write one 
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Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: October 22 2009 at 09:15
Hi! Ok, it is a book about progressive music from the 60's to nowadays through the evocation of 500 LPs. From proto-prog (The Beatles, The Moody Blues) to actual progressive rock/metal (Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater) with also chapters about Canterbury music, Zeuhl, RIO, Neo-Prog, Space-Rock ... |
Easy Livin wrote:Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 22 2009 at 19:39
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There wasc a similar book a few years ago that took the 100 prog albums of the 70's
Written by Freferic Delage, , it was reviewing (in French) the albums and giving a big picture of the front cover
This book is inherantly superior,to the other I speak of , and it uses the real vinyls as sources (you can see the wear on the photos, but doesn't really review the albums per se, but continues until almost today. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 04:23
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Sean, the book you are talking about is called Chroniques Du Rock Progressif 1967-1979. Frédéric Delâge also wrote a book about Genesis: La Boîte à Musique.   |
Posted By: Jon89
Date Posted: October 24 2009 at 03:07
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There is a huge prog encyclopedia made many years ago about french prog. It was this:
Grosse, Francis/Bernard Gueffier: La Discographie du Rock Français. Un guide musical, historique et discographique du rock français de la fin des années 60 à nos jours. Hors série de Musea Mag, Musea MP 3017.AR, EAN-Code: 3426300030177. 1st ed. Chaumont 1984 (1000 copies), 2nd ed. 1986 (1000 copies), 3rd ed. Dombasle 1994 (2000 copies). ISSN: 1245-3692. I have tried to find this but to no avail ------------- jon 89 |
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: October 24 2009 at 04:25
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@Jon89: maybe you should try to find some volumes of L'Histoire Mondiale Du Rock Progressif by Didier Gonzalez (Highlands Magazine). http://highlands.fanzine.free.fr/hmp/hmp.html - http://highlands.fanzine.free.fr/hmp/hmp.html |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 24 2009 at 15:27
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Other resources in French: - Denis Protat, "L'encyclopédie du Hard-Rock des 70's" Here's an interview (in French) : http://www.lefantastique.net/musique/interviews/protat/protat.htm - http://www.lefantastique.net/musique/interviews/protat/protat.htm Le Mot et le Reste have released several interesting books : - Eric Deshayes, "Au-delà du Rock" http://atheles.org/lemotetlereste/formes/audeladurock/ - http://atheles.org/lemotetlereste/formes/audeladurock/ A good book about the "Kraut-rock" scene, organised as a dictionary The same author with the musicia Dominique Grimaud also wrote a book about the 70's French Progressive movement : http://atheles.org/lemotetlereste/formes/lundergroundmusicalenfrance/ - http://atheles.org/lemotetlereste/formes/lundergroundmusicalenfrance/ There's also a new book about the 70's Hard-Rock. I'm going to check this one: http://atheles.org/lemotetlereste/formes/hardnheavy19661978/index.html - http://atheles.org/lemotetlereste/formes/hardnheavy19661978/index.html Soon, a book about Magma! http://atheles.org/lemotetlereste/formes/magma/ - http://atheles.org/lemotetlereste/formes/magma/ A last one for the road, about Pink Floyd: http://atheles.org/lemotetlereste/formes/pinkfloyd/ - http://atheles.org/lemotetlereste/formes/pinkfloyd/ |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 17:28
Eurotrash/Rapido presenter Antoine de Caunes also wrote a biography on Magma, in French, called "Magma". -------------   
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 14:21
I'm not sure it's still available. Too bad: I heard/read that it's a standard. |
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: November 02 2009 at 10:53
 I have got this book. It is a good dictionary, the only problem I have with it is that the covers of the albums are in black and white.  I also like to read these magazines: Prog-résiste and Big Bang. http://www.progresiste.com/%20 - http://www.progresiste.com/ http://www.bigbangmag.com/%20 - http://www.bigbangmag.com/ The other publications about progressive music written in french are on this page: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/frogprog/index_fr.html - http://pagesperso-orange.fr/frogprog/index_fr.html . |
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: February 16 2010 at 09:23
 The new Prog-résiste is available with a free CD: 1 Cantina Sociale - Piccoli Indiani 11:47 2 Paul Cusick - Touch 5:43 3 Gifts From Enola - Aves 9:03 4 Gösta Berlings Saga - Sorterargatan 9:50 5 Majestic - Wish 9:15 6 Sisyphos - Childhoods End 5:15. And the poll of the redaction for 2009 is: 1-Gazpacho: Tick Tock 2-Beardfish: Destined Solitaire 3-Universal Totem Orchestra: The Magus 4-IQ: Frequency Overhead: And We're Not Here After All 6-Gens De La Lune: s/t 7-Steven Wilson: Insurgentes 8-Hour Of The Shipwreck: The Hour Is Upon Us Lazuli: Réponse Incongrue... 10-Syrinx: Qualia. |
Posted By: machinemusic
Date Posted: February 22 2010 at 07:54
I bought Au-delà du Rock a little over a year ago and really enjoyed it. Deshayes has written a bunch of material here and there about experimental and electronic music. His site, http://neospheres.free.fr/index.htm - néosphères , is also a really great resource for material published/released in France. I am actually working on a review of Ghosn's La Monte Young at the moment although we are far from prog rock here. It is also from Le mot et le reste. Elegant and affordable books! CPicard, you might want to check this book also. It is exactly what this thread is concerned with (scheduled to be released in April):  ------------- http://machinemusic.org - http://machinemusic.org |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: February 22 2010 at 16:04
| I haven't heard/read of this last one until now. I wonder if it will be really interesting. |
Posted By: machinemusic
Date Posted: February 22 2010 at 17:08
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I just did a quick search online and Leroy is the author of a Mot et le reste book on Pink Floyd. He managed a prog zine in France for many years and contributed liner notes to a number of prog reissues and compilations. He runs http://calyx.perso.neuf.fr/ - Calyx , a site dedicated to the Canterbury scene. I feel optimistic about that one. ------------- http://machinemusic.org - http://machinemusic.org |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: February 23 2010 at 13:43
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Yeah, I've read his "CV", but I wanted to say is that, since I've read a lot of things about progressive rock (right now, I'm re-re-reading Frédéric Delage's "Chroniques du rock progressif"), I just hope I would learn something new or read this story told with a deeper concept. Let's say I'm filled with kindly but great expectations. |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: February 23 2010 at 15:25
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Didn't know there were so many french-reading people on this forum... ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: February 23 2010 at 17:21
Haha! And another one. ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: February 26 2010 at 04:12
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Mary Wollstencraft's " A Vindication On The Rights Of Women" (1794)
prose more fragrent than Whitman
If everything is done right, it has it's place. Boys Girls Men Women People \
Prog/Hard/Rock
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Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: March 04 2010 at 09:09
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A new book about Robert Wyatt by Philippe Thieyre & Jean François Déran (Editions des Accords 2009)
 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65507&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65507&PN=1 ------------- Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it" |
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 05:21
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Aymeric Leroy: Rock progressif. La noirceur envoûtante de King Crimson, le raffinement symphonique de Genesis, l’exaltation mystique de Yes, les rêveries sonores de Pink Floyd, la virtuosité extravagante d’Emerson Lake & Palmer… Et tant d’autres, plus obscurs mais non moins valeureux – Van der Graaf Generator, Jethro Tull, Magma, Gentle Giant, Soft Machine… Autant de groupes qui, à partir de la fin des années soixante, ont cherché – et souvent réussi – à inventer une musique au-delà des distinctions de genre et du formatage commercial. Le rock progressif représente un legs artistique d’une variété et d’une richesse exceptionnelles. S’il a connu l’apogée de sa créativité et de son succès dans les années soixante-dix, son impact s’est révélé aussi profond que durable, à travers ses nouvelles déclinaisons (le néo-prog de Marillion, le prog-métal de Dream Theater…) mais aussi son influence avérée sur certains des groupes actuels les plus aventureux et novateurs (Radiohead, The Mars Volta…). Cet ouvrage revient sur le contexte historique et artistique exceptionnel qui a favorisé l’émergence et l’épanouissement du rock progressif, et décortique ses œuvres phares, portant sur ce genre musical un regard à la fois érudit, passionné et sans complaisance. Né en 1973 à Lavelanet, Aymeric Leroy a co-fondé vingt ans plus tard la revue de musiques progressives Big Bang, dans laquelle il a rédigé de nombreuses chroniques et études approfondies sur les ténors du genre. Expert reconnu de la scène de Canterbury (Soft Machine, Caravan…), il lui a consacré un site internet de référence, Calyx. > Au mot et le reste, il est aussi l’auteur de Pink Floyd. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 14:07
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Ah, ça y est, il est sorti ? Faut que je revoie les mails de la maison d'édition. |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 06:54
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L'histoire du prog en huit volumes par Didier Gonzalez:
%20 - http://www.musearecords.com/boutique/francais/index.php |
Posted By: machinemusic
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 06:57
J'ai reçu ma copie il y a quelques jours. Je vais préparer une critique mais ce sera pour plus tard dans l'année - quelques trucs à discuter avant. ------------- http://machinemusic.org - http://machinemusic.org |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 12:21
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AVIS A LA POPULATION ! MERCREDI 2 JUIN - 19 Heures PARIS Aymeric Leroy will present his book at the bookshop "l'ARBRE A LETTRES", 14 rue Boulard (métro: Denfert-Rochereau). Je répète: Aymeric Leroy présentera son livre à la librairie "L'Arbre à Lettres", adresse indiquée ci-dessus. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 04:03
Not forgetting the two owners who are from Le Belle Province....
QUOTE=PhideauxFan]
I have got this book. It is a good dictionary, the only problem I have with it is that the covers of the albums are in black and white. [/QUOTE] This book is filled with horriblr French spelling mistakes, but it's rather complete (but not ehaustive).
Stranegely enough written by some French from New Caledonia >> next to Papua New Guinea ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 04:07
He (Aymeric) has also written a book about Pink Floyd in the same collection
Actually there are plenty of excellent music books in Le Mot Et Le Reste
 (I've got seven and there are two more for September I will order)
Including the only Weather Report book I know of >> currently 1/4 of the way through the book. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: machinemusic
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 01:35
Pas tout à fait du prog mais tout de même gracieuseté Le mot et le reste: http://machinemusic.org/2010/03/09/book-review-joseph-ghosn-la-monte-young-minimalism-and-after/ - LA MONTE YOUNG  ------------- http://machinemusic.org - http://machinemusic.org |
Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 08:31
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BTW Aymeric Leroy will present his book tomorrow wednesday 2/06 at 19:00 in a library in Paris followed by an introduction to Prog with slides and videos.
mercredi 2 juin à 19h à l'Arbre à Lettres, métro Denfert-Rochereau (14 rue Boulard)
http://blog.arbrealettres.com/Le-Rock-Progressif.html - http://blog.arbrealettres.com/Le-Rock-Progressif.html
------------- Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it" |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 10:15
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Hey, I wrote about it, like, 5 posts ago! Does anyone read whatever I wrote??? That's just like the time where I said that the lady on the cover of Aranis' second album wasn't one of the musician and someone kept on raving about who was featured on this cover... Nobody thinks of me as a reliable source.  |
Posted By: calyx_AL
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 04:45
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Not quite a "library" actually - more like a bookshop... (A frequent source of "franglo" confusion, that word...) [btw, no slides - just videos!]
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Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: June 02 2010 at 06:51
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^^Sorry Cedric, J'ai loupé ton message! ------------- Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it" |
Posted By: machinemusic
Date Posted: June 15 2010 at 12:44
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Voilà - un texte concernant ce superbe livre d'Aymeric Leroy: http://nomag.ca/2010/06/rock-progressif-limpasse-du-temps/ - http://nomag.ca/2010/06/rock-progressif-limpasse-du-temps/   ------------- http://machinemusic.org - http://machinemusic.org |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 16 2010 at 04:04
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^^^^^
J'ai toujours desté les 8-tracks 'elles me rappellent les heures passées dans les schoolbusses >> autobus de ramassage) et en voyant ces plastiques de toutes les couleurs, je ne peux que confirmer
Quel manque de gout de f*****e du plastique bleu sur animals. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: machinemusic
Date Posted: June 16 2010 at 07:48
Sean, je suis bien d'accord en ce qui concerne le "packaging." En fait, il y a le choix de couleur (pour le plastique - parfois plus que terrible) mais aussi plein d'autres problèmes associés à la manière dont les albums ont été trafiqué/adapté pour le format. Une certaine insouciance ou dysfonctionnement de l'industrie. J'aime bien les 8 pistes car ce sont d'intéressant fossiles qui nous disent beaucoup sur les intentions et priorités des compagnies de disques. Côté fiabilité par contre, inutile de se faire des attentes (là aussi on en apprend beaucoup). eric  ------------- http://machinemusic.org - http://machinemusic.org |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 18 2010 at 14:29
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I don't know what's happening in France nowadays but, just a few weeks after the release of the book of Aymeric Leroy, here comes a challenger : - Jérome Alberota, Anthologie du Rock Progressif (2010, Paris, Camion Blanc) http://www.camionblanc.com/?p=detail_livre&ID=272 - http://www.camionblanc.com/?p=detail_livre&ID=272 It's a bit expensive (38 euros) but this book has 814 pages. But it seems to focus on the reviews of records (160), something that Christophe Delage already did ten years ago. The fans of R.I.O., Canterbury, Post-Punk and other adventurous styles would enjoy this another one: - Gérard Nguyen, ATEM 1975-1979 - Une sélection d'articles et d'interviews (2010, Paris, Camion Blanc) http://www.camionblanc.com/?p=detail_livre&ID=355 - http://www.camionblanc.com/?p=detail_livre&ID=355 From 1975 to 1979, Gérard Nguyen was the director of the fanzine Atem,a leading fanzine in the fields of alternative and progressive musics. This book is an anthology of articles and interviews, including unpublished articles. It seems really interesting. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 23 2010 at 03:11
Interesting news, I'll check both books ASAP, but I know what you mean about the scene!! And I've got even more surprising  .............You know that the mag Rock'nFolk is usually anti-prog and has derided the genre for decades. Well the latest issue has a prog dossier, mostly through a Crimson feature. I've yet to leaf through it when I see it in the newstands. It looks like the rédac'en-chef Philippe is out for another Manoeuvre
 , switching jackets once more.------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 23 2010 at 05:18
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Aaaaah, Philippe Manoeuvre... On one hand, he leads the jury of "Nouvelle Star" (the French version of "American Idol") and sings the praising of lame bands such as BB Brunes or the Plasticines; on the other hand, he has to do a few bucks with what could interest the readers of R'n'F. Anyway, it's a bit late for R'n'F: when they made a cover for Magma's 40 birthday, every French jazz magazine already did it. Now, they make an issue about progressive rock? Good for them, but the magazine Muziq already did a special issue 2 years ago. Too late, Philippe, too late... |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: September 12 2010 at 10:08
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I'm reading a book that I never heard of before last week: Christophe Pirenne, Le Rock Progressif Anglais (2005, Honoré Chamion, Paris). Quite interesting: a lot of TRUE musicology, a bit of history (England in the 70's), a bit of sociology, etc. |
Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: February 03 2011 at 17:59
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 08:36
| So old that I'm not sure we can find it anymore in stores (maybe second-hand stores?) |
Posted By: andrea
Date Posted: February 06 2011 at 09:03
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About Magma, this other book is still available...
http://www.amazon.fr/Magma-D%C3%A9cryptage-mythe-dune-musique/dp/2360540009/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297004538&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.fr/Magma-D%C3%A9cryptage-mythe-dune-musique/dp/2360540009/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297004538&sr=1-1
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