why not?
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Topic: why not?
Posted By: maniax976
Subject: why not?
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 23:37
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I AM VERY SURPRISED ABOUT A FACT: WHY DEEP PURPLE'S AMAZING LIVE "MADE IN JAPAN" IS NOT ON TOP LIVE ALBUMS? I THINK THIS IS THE MOST ESSENTIAL LIVE PERFORMANCE OF A PROG BAND EVER?OR? ------------- don't give up |
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 23:38
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YOU SHOULD REVIEW IT
MAYBE THEN IT WOULD BE A TOP LIVE ALBUM ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 23:49
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BEAT OUT PINK FLOYD LIVE AT POMPEII, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS AND BOTH ARE 1ST AND 2ND. |
Henry Plainview wrote:Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 23:55
| OH. WHY? |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 23:58
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I WANNA ROCK ROCK! |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 00:03
ALTHOUGH SPEAKING OF PINK FLOYD, I AM SURPRISED WE HAVE ECHOES STREAMING. SOMEHOW I DO NOT THINK ROGER WATERS GAVE US PERMISSION FOR THAT.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OP, I THINK IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE PROTO-PROG AND PROTO-PROG AND PROG-RELATED ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE TOP LISTS. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 00:05
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GUYS, CAN'T HEAR YOU, SPEAK UP A LITTLE! |
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 00:06
TOUCHE... |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 00:14
HUH, I NEVER KNEW THAT ABOUT PROTO-PROG. /YELLING I thought it was weird that so many PF songs were just uploaded. Dog, Echoes, and Shine on..? That is a lot of good Floyd here on PA. WEIRD ALBUMS DON'T HAVE VIDEO? I'VE BEEN DOING IT WRONG ALL THIS TIME. |
Posted By: rpe9p
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 00:34
| Dogs was always on here, but yeah you normally dont see the 20+ min tracks like echoes |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 00:54
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Stop with the caps guys. -------------  |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 01:03
HEY, I WOULD LIKE TO YELL TOO. I HOPE PEOPLE DON'T JUST START TALKING AT A REASONABLE VOLUME BECAUSE THE YELLING THING IS "PLAYED OUT" OR SOMETHING.                                      On topic: LIVE ALBUMS ARE COOL. MY FAVORITE LIVE ALBUM IS EITHER THE NIGHT WATCH BY KING CRIMSON OR PLAYING THE FOOL BY GENTLE GIANT. BOTH GREAT LIVE ALBUMS, YOU SHOULD ALL FIVE STAR THEM LIKE THIS
AND GET THEM TO THE TOP OF THE LIVE ALBUM CHARTS. |
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 07:23
 ------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 18:01
^ LOL er......lol  ------------- 
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: TheCaptain
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 19:20
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Caps lock may not be necessary all the time but it is cruise control for cool.
------------- Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal. |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 01:40
| MADE IN JAPAN IS A FANTASTIC LIVE ALBUM BUT SONG LENGTHS ASIDE IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY PROG |
Posted By: Fogon the Tyne
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 05:17
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Pheww I agree with Textbook I love the album but always thought it was rock rather than prog
]-#[.may be wrong) I often though wonder could Deep Purple have pushed themselves a bit and made a great prog album? Just a thought. Shoot me down in flames if you like but I dont think the prog lends itself too much to live albums. I usually prefer the studio versions.LIke listening to how they stretch live its just the actual recording depth sometimes doesnt match the studio gawd spot the anorak hood up slouches off. ------------- I have become comfortably numb |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 09:07
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Hi,
Deep Purple never was "prog" ... if anything it was "loud" ... in fact, I walked out ...
It was a band that made a name on excesses and loudness and while there was a couple of songs here and there that were nice, it was never prog. It was more about the excess and making sure that people could notice they were there ...
For all intents and purposes, this was "rock'n'roll" ,.. and nothing else.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 10:57
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You all need tranquilizers... ------------- 
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Posted By: hitting_singularity2
Date Posted: October 21 2009 at 10:04
| lol one of the most amusing threads I think |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 21 2009 at 12:22
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BECAUSE, JUST BECAUSE.
------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 21 2009 at 12:38
Listen to some live Magma albums if you don't think prog is made to be played live. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: BFD31095
Date Posted: October 21 2009 at 20:38
OF COURSE IT IS! IT LOOKS AWESOME!
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: October 21 2009 at 20:56
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Do all women push their breasts out when you type in capslock?
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: BFD31095
Date Posted: October 21 2009 at 21:11
 OF COURSE YES! THEY LOVE IT! And for a good reason...
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: October 22 2009 at 03:06
KC - WHY ARE YOUR PICTURES SO DAMN BIG?? YOU'RE A SCROLL TROLL !!
 ...please can you reduce them, my poor little mouse scroll wheel needs a retread..
BTW yes - Deep Purple "Made in Japan" is my all time favourite live album !
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Posted By: camilleanne
Date Posted: October 22 2009 at 08:45
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WOW THIS THREAD IS FUNNY!!! I LOVE IT HONESTLY!!!
------------- The planet is fine the people are f**ked. -George Carlin- |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 22 2009 at 09:10
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Hi, This thread should be locked and killed!
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: October 22 2009 at 11:21
Made in Japan is a great live album and deserves the credit due. I personally think Purple should have put more creativity into their set list as it hardly ever changed. Purple were in N.Y for 3 nights and the same 2 guys in the front row every night were screaming for them to change the set. Then all the various bootleg recordings I heard over the years seemed to contain the same order of songs. I always wanted to hear 'Pictures of Home" live from the Japan tour.
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Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: October 22 2009 at 21:22
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I THINK DEEP PURPLE COULD HAVE DONE SOME NICE PROG ALBUMS! well and itīs a shame they didnīt play child in time live in 2006 here in germany (although gillanīs voice was the reason). AND ONE OF THE BEST LIVE ALBUMS BESIDES MADE IN JAPAN IS METALLICAīS SYMPHONY AND METALLICA ALBUM ( WICH IS ALSO AVAILABLE AS DVD )------------- It's just a ride... <3 |
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 09:53
| They were close to being progressive in other aspects such as their training and background. Ian Gillian was chosen for the vocal parts on Jesus Christ Superstar. He had a background in opera vocal techniques which is relevant on the album. Ritchie Blackmore studied classical guitar for a while in his youth. Jon Lord is a classical pianist and has performed with David Bedford on the Odyssey tour. Roger Glover released an album in the late 70's titled "Elements". The album itself is in league with any Passport or Soft Machine record. Ian Paice was more of a jazz drummer. If you view the black and white film from Belgium in 70', you'll see during his solo that his playing ranks amongst some of the best european/jazz/fusion drummers of our time. The progressive edge in Purple's music, in detailed aspect, turns up in sections of 'Space Truckin' performed live where Blackmore and Lord would play harmony with thirty second notes. This, plus the jazz drum fills in some of their rock songs were an indication that you were listening to schooled musicians and not typical stadium rockers. But I don't believe their intentions were to sit down and write a prog piece. That wasn't their mind set, to say the least. |
Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 23:39
| I TALK BIG SO PEOPLE LISTEN TO WHAT I SAY |
Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 23:56
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A good live album but so much excess...not as succinct as Live at Leeds or Get Your Ya Ya's Out ------------- 
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