Your Opinion: The most underrated guitarists?
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Topic: Your Opinion: The most underrated guitarists?
Posted By: NecronCommander
Subject: Your Opinion: The most underrated guitarists?
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 21:26
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This can be in or outside of prog. If we are talking prog, I'd go with Devin Townsend. Otherwise, I would say one of the most talented yet overlooked guitarists of any genre would be Larry LaLonde of Primus. Your thoughts? |
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Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 21:31
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I've always felt this way about Elliot Easton from The Cars. He was never really given a chance to play much with them. I also think that Glen Tipton of Judas Priest is a highly talented and innovative guitarist in the world of metal. What would modern metal be like if not for him, I ask you? ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 21:32
| Zappa, Bolin, Etheridge, Beck(Jeff), Goodsall, Stolt, Rabin, some others... |
Posted By: rpe9p
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 21:37
Certainly not on this website |
The Quiet One wrote:Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 21:40
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Martin Barre, Tom Scholz, Steve Jones, Mike Rutherford, and to a lesser extent the Edge and Brian May |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 21:42
| Gary Green... |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 21:44
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Syd Barrett had a unique and personal style to his playing, especially on his solo albums. Very hard for me to put into words though. How about Ant Phillips? Peter Banks? Overshadowed by their successors but I like the way both play. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 21:47
 Definitely great players! Specially Anthony Phillips on Trespass, he plays lovely on there!Peter Banks has some very nice, though subtle, solos on Time and a Word. |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 22:14
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Guthrie Govan Shawn Lane Andy Timmons Mattias IA Eklundh Shaun Baxter Shane Gibson Michael Keene Frederik Åkesson Bill Nelson ------------- 
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 23:28
| I always thought that Peter Green was an underrated guitarist. Even though he has that bit of historical value in the old blues based Fleetwood Mac, he is not mentioned in the same breath along with Beck or Hendrix. But his soloing on "Black Magic Woman" from the live Boston Tea Party cd leaves me speachless. The trade of leads( which is quite like question and answer), between Green and Kirwan is progressive in sound and performance. |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 23:39
I feel like some of these, especially Guthrie Govan, are more unknown than they are underrated. I think everyone I know who's heard him rates him highly and appropriately so. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 08:43
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Stewart Goldring in prog, and sadly, Jeff Baxter out of prog. ------------- http://www.formspring.me/Aragorn224" rel="nofollow - Trendsetter win! The search for nonexistent perfection. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 09:54
Mojo magazine had him no.2 or 3 in a poll of a 100 guitarists about a decade ago, just behind Hendrix at no.1 . But things change, and evaluation schemes vary in criteria.
So I have to ask what "under-rated' means here? For instance Gary Lucas: the New York Times and few specialist guitarist magazines rate him in their top tens year after year - but how many folk have heard of him here? You can say similar things for Allan Holdsworth. The suggestions above of Anthony Phillips and Pete Banks seem to sensible, whilst wrt Jeff Beck what sort of underrating is going on here? ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 09:55
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 09:58
too many 
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 10:29
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Inside Prog: Andrew Dalby of Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come springs to mind Franco Mussida of PFM is certainly known on PA, but is never name dropped with the insouciance of a Howe, Page, Hackett or Gilmour etc Jan Van Nimwegen of Finch is a stellar player and composer to boot. Jean Michel Brezovar of Ange is certainly not a technical shredder by any stretch of the imagination but his contributions to their output are unfailingly appropriate. Outside Prog: Zal Cleminson of the Sensational Alex Harvey Band is a long neglected plank spanker The late John McGeogh of Siouxsie & the Banshees, Magazine and PIL is one of the most original post -punk guitarists bar none ------------- 
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 12:02
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Shawn Lane
Jan Akkerman
Frank Gambale
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 12:28
| Pino Marrone |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 12:54
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It depends what circles you run in.
Shawn Lane is far from under-rated in shredder circles, he's revered as the One. And he deserves it.
I never heard of Steve Hillage or Andy Latimer before I came to this site, and now they're among my favorite guitarists.
Chris Poland always gets a mention from me, tastiest shredder alive with Lane gone.
I also agree that Devin Townsend's skills get submerged in his total musicianship and the fact that he likes to minimize his ability. But he's quite good.
Tommy Emmanuel may be the best all-around guitarist alive. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 12:55
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Carlos Alomar ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 12:58
Dweezil, he meant.
Frank was great, but not really under-rated. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 13:18
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I think that the most underrated guitarists are those who you want to mention in this thread but you can only say something like "err... that guy in band X... who does that nice shredding... you know?" For example: the guy in Blotted Science or the guy in Parallaxe; the guy who plays with Jonas Hellborg on "Art Metal"; that awesome dude in Natsumen; the guys in Don Caballero or Russian Circles. Or, keeping it fusion, how about Scot McGill (Freakzoid and other projects), the guy in Skywhale, or James McGaw (Magma, One Shot)? Most of them are wonderful musicians who play in bands not very known, even among geeks like us. |
Posted By: TheLastBaron
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 00:56
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Brian May, Chris Poland, Marty Friedman, Scott Gorham, Gary Moore, Brian Robertson, and Nuno Bettencourt. I know this is not part of the topic but i feel it needs to be said, Kerry King is one of the most over rated guitarist ever. ------------- " Men are not prisoners of fate, but prisoners of their own minds." - FDR |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 09:51
Good call IMHO - Scott is currently working in the UK as an academic at a music college since being a fulltime musician doesn't keep him and young family. BTW add Handfarm, Finneus Gauge, McGill Mainring & Stevens, significant contribution to couple of A Triggering Myth's albums, plus the MP3 only download album with former Brand x bassist Percy Jones ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 14:26
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It might be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jks0N05l4OY&feature=fvw - Sonny Sharrock or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDDVXlEG-_I - Snakefinger but probably http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDDVXlEG-_I - Omar Khorshid ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 14:26
As a guitarist I think that Frank Zappa is underrated. Maybe not as a composer and as a comedian  |
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 14:44
Zal's a great guitarist who probably doesn't get the respect he deserves because of his facepaint.
I managed to sneak the rising guitar line from Shot By Both Sides into the guitar solo in one of my band's songs today! ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 14:46
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Daniel Cavanagh. Amongst some of the most melodic players to ever exist, maybe even a successor to Gilmour himself.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 18:08
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Leo Kottke |
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 03:27
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Dominic Frasca. I first heard him playing Electric Guitar Phase by Steve Reich.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2BOApUvFpw&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2BOApUvFpw&feature=related ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: terryl
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 03:41
Totally agreed. The late Cris Oliva of Savatage fame is unfairly underrated. ------------- And who are we to justify the right in all we do Until we seek, until we find Ammonia Avenue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrmJ39j58W0 |
Posted By: Trianium
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 06:08
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What about Uli Jon Roth? i think the Scorpions in the 70's is a criminally underrated band... I think Zappa and Jeff Beck aren't underrated...everybody recognize that they are true genious guitarrists.  |
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 11:03
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I guess it's easier to put the must over rated guitarists... but is fair to say that Steve Lukather is under rated, specially in this web site... his sounds were way much better to their contemporaries... and the perfomance was tip top, accurate and excelent... but I know, you don't consider Toto a prog-related band... jejeje... maybe Neil Schion from Journey is also... he's quite good and have excelent solos... then... mmm...??? Kiko Uriero from Angra... one of the best from Latin America... and I guesss as harmonium.ro said, the most under rated are those who we don't remember their names and plays in a good band... jejeje... ------------- |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 11:22
yes, Leo Kottke...i have many of his albums, he has a wry and modest sense of humour, his playing is stunning, his songs have a magical rustic quality that will grab you and never let you go. His "Six and twelve string guitar" is a stunning album, my favourite is "Time Step".
also DH mentioned Gary Lucas, i have his "Improve the Shining Hour" which is a compilation of live performances, favoured by me over his studio recordings this is one of the most involving live albums i have ever heard showcasing Gary's immense talent, his sense of humour comes shining through too as well as some wonderfully atmospheric songs.
in a more rustic blues vein is Seasick Steve, though not underrated as he is enjoying a surge of fame inthe UK at the moment, i was amazed how he could produce spine tingling slide guitar blues on a battered three string guitar and a banjo made from a cigar box and bits of junk, authentic raw talent, though i am waiting for a live album to be released as i found his live performances more involving than his studio recordings, he really needs an audience to feed off, and shout at!
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Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 13:09
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I think Alex Lifeson is underrated
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 13:12
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 13:16
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 10:08
 He has many various ethnic style open string tunings stored in his head. He wasn't switching guitars that night. He would tune while he told stories that were bizzare and entertaining. He played a piece that night which was jazzy and very complex.
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 10:30
Yeah. Except for the hundreds of young guitar students that have yet to hear either one of these people play. You must be making reference to old school proggers who grew up with their guitar playing or young prog fans who have an in depth knowledge of guitar playing or prog music.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 10:39
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Johnny Marr is one of my favorites: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Marr - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Marr
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Dan Rock: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotic_Waltz - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotic_Waltz ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 10:58
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Franco Mussida - PFM
Bastiaan Peeters- Odyssice
JL Louveton- Nemo
Dave Bainbridge- Iona
Antoine Duhem- Xang
Stefano Marelli- Finisterre
Reine Fiske- Landberk
Henrique Simoes- Tempus Fugit
and of course Janos Varga ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 16:47
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John Fahey -------------  |
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: October 24 2009 at 07:30
I heard something on the radio once, it was one of the worst songs I've ever heard. Turns out it was Gets Us All In The End by Jeff Beck. I thought I was doing Mr Beck a disservice by thinking that (after all, everyone says he's a great guitarist) so I went on a Youtube hunt for more of his music. I found quite a lot, but nothing I liked. ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 16:04
Bert Weedon
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Posted By: Slayertplsko
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 17:00
| Underrated by whom?? By teenage girls?? By retired?? By metalheads?? By whom?? For instance, Randy Rhoads and Yngwie Malmsteen are underrated by teenage girls (in average), imho. Joe Pass and George Benson are underrated by metalheads, so are Allan Holdsworth and Biréli Lagrene. |
Posted By: guitargods2009
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 17:17
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Good tread. As a guitarist myself thse are my personal faves whom I fell are underappericated in general.
1. Robert Fripp (yes, outside of prog he's very underrated)
2. Michael Bloomfield (long overlooked blues rock legend)
3. Wes Montgomery (greatest jazz guitarist and one of the greatest in general)
4. David Gilmour (another underrated rock guitarist)
5. Dick Dale (Hendrix and Syd Barrent among the countless guitarists he's influenced)
Most overrated guitarist:
1. Jack White
2. Kirk Cobain
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 17:32
Is that the same littlle known guitarist 'David Gilmour' of the long forgotten beat combo 'Pinkus Floydus'? Are you sure you have the right thread?
 I cant agree about Jack White though! Oh well I like a little rock and roll occasionally!  ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: October 27 2009 at 17:06
Quoted for emphasis. |
Posted By: mohaveman
Date Posted: October 29 2009 at 16:27
| Martin Barre |
Posted By: meatal
Date Posted: October 29 2009 at 16:53
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Rik Emmett (Triumph) Ian Crichton (Saga) Akira Takasaki (Loudness) Tore Ostby (Conception/Ark) Criss Oliva (Savatage) ------------- The bitter harvest of a barren land, I'm painting pictures you don't understand. (Fates Warning) |
Posted By: hektur
Date Posted: October 29 2009 at 19:07
| Alex Lifeson, Stolt and Mussida all come to mind. |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: October 29 2009 at 21:45
| If we are talking about the general public, I'd add Latimer to the list. If we are talking about PA, then IDK. |
Posted By: weetabix
Date Posted: November 01 2009 at 18:44
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Bert Jansch
Alvin Lee
Dave Edmonds
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: November 01 2009 at 19:27
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Dave Davies Johnny Marr Steve Winwood (not generally known for his guitar playing) Jon Preston Bouda Frank Usher Prince ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: November 02 2009 at 02:15
I saw part of Steve Winwood and Eric Clapton Live At Madison Square Garden on TV last night, I was really impressed by Winwood's playing. ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: November 03 2009 at 14:16
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Rick Emmett Pat Travers Jeff Healey Peter Frampton ------------- Hi progmaniacs of all the world |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: April 11 2010 at 18:15
| I just remembered Steve Stevens! |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: April 11 2010 at 18:27
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ANTHONY PHILLIPS is far too overshadowed by Steve Hackett... Also, Roine Stolt, Alan Morse (one of my all-time favorites), and Steve Rothery.... ------------- 
Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: April 12 2010 at 13:54
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: April 13 2010 at 11:57
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Eddy Marron (Dzyan, among others) Lee Pickens (Boodrock) Dirk Steffens (Birth Control) Federico D'Andrea (Libra) Tony Bourge (Budgie) John Nitzinger Helmut Koellen (Triumvirat, Jail) these are in no particular order |
Posted By: elder08
Date Posted: April 13 2010 at 13:33
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Alex Lifeson and Frank Zappa ------------- "There are people who say we [Pink Floyd] should make room for younger bands. That's not the way it works. They can make their own room."- David Gilmour |
Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:26
| Steve Hillage. On this site he's known somewhat, but the fact that I could go through life never meeting someone into Steve Hillage in person just isn't right. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:28
| the 'Unknown' John Clark who stepped in for Holdsworth during Bruford's later tours |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:32
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Someone said Bill Nelson, which makes me very happy. Also, I don't think Buck Dharma of Blue Oyster Cult gets enough love. He's one of the reasons I started playing the guitar in the first place, along with Brian May (but he's not underrated).
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Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:38
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Curtis Mayfield
Pat Martino
George Benson
Larry Coryell
Bill Connors
Eddie Hazel.....someone already mentioned him earlier
Terry Kath
Alex Lifeson.....he is underrated
Jonny Greenwood
Adam Jones
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Posted By: Ronnie Pilgrim
Date Posted: April 14 2010 at 09:11
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THIS GUY: |