well-known Pseudo-prog songs?
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Topic: well-known Pseudo-prog songs?
Posted By: paganinio
Subject: well-known Pseudo-prog songs?
Date Posted: October 03 2009 at 00:57
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mostly these songs will have "unconventional" time signatures, and that is the ONLY difference from a normal non-prog song. These songs are annoying, especially to progheads' ears. I know one example: Neil Young / Stray Gators - "Words (Between The Lines Of Age)", sounds like a bunch of banjo-playing cowboys trying to rip off of prog. any more examples? |
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Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: October 03 2009 at 04:03
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The recent rock radio hit Indestructible by Disturbed uses an odd time sig. I actually, for the record, think that a good bit of Disturbed's output is quite nice, but that's neither here nor there
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 03 2009 at 16:39
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I didn't realize prog bands had exclusive license to use 'unconventional' time signatures ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
. Words is a great song, a hazy window into what would come next from Neil Young. That drunken, staggering, reeling 1-2-3-1-2 1-2-3-1-2 beat, I always thought that was a musical/rhythmic representation of Danny Whitten's drunken, stoned gait, right before he went down for the count. I seriously doubt Neil was trying to make a prog record.Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 03 2009 at 17:07
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^ I understand your doubt, but I don't think so. Neil Young is probably very sensitive to the vibes of the time. In the vintage prog year 1972, when Harvest was released, he seemed to make a move towards prog with Words (Between the Lines of Age), which had that recoccurring theme in 11/4 time signature between the verses, but a number of years later he uttered his admiration for Johnny Rotten (Hey Hey, My My) making a half-circle turn towards punk. ------------- 
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 03 2009 at 18:53
^C'mon, pedal steel in a prog song, even if it's a passing acknowledgment??? Blasphemy.
Given the other songs on the album, I doubt prog was forefront in his mind. Now as for Tonight's The Night, well that's another topic.
Edit: I just listened to the song in question again, probably for the first time in five years? So he listened to other music of the time? Some of it may not be 4/4? Wha? Regardless, it ain't pseudo-prog, nor was intended to be. It's, if anything, slow old-time western-swing, with a rock beat.
Edit again (sorry I just can't stop sometimes): ya want pseudo-prog, look no further than...many bands mentioned... ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: October 03 2009 at 20:16
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Soundgarden and Clutch have both done a lot of stuff in 7.
And the Toadies' "Possum Kingdom" alternates between 7 and 8 for most of the song.
And I am annoyed by none of them.
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Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: October 04 2009 at 07:42
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How is Tonight's the Night prog? I like the album, reminds me of Pink Moon too. (both are dark and soft and nightly) okay, it's off-topic, so you may as well not respond to me. |
jammun wrote:
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 04 2009 at 08:10
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50 Ways to Leave Your Lover by Paul Simon has always struck me as having a really weird hybrid rhythm. I (think) the drummer might have been Steve Gadd ?
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 04 2009 at 09:37
 ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 04 2009 at 10:08
You are correct. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 12 2009 at 08:38
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When Europe released their first hit, I was calling that 'pseudo-prog' back whenever. Which begs the question is the majority of Meatloaf's Bat American prog or pseudo-prog? Clocking in over 5 minutes with a few typical prog changes, John Miles' Music Is My First Love , should be considered. And certainly that handful of teenage fans listening to my radio show in the 90's would ask whether a particular new band and a particular album was or wasn't prog, (belatedly implying pseudo prog?) for instance, Mansun or Dave Matthews Band. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 12:25
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a prog-related radio show in the 90s? I thought Opie and Anthony were huge, but now I think you're huger (given the topic of your show |
). I mean, even O&A aren't able to keep a progressive rock radio show alive.Posted By: d.o.k
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 12:10
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There is not only strange time signatures that make a song pseudo-prog, there is also songs made of really distinctive parts, 2 usually (when 3 I guessed it's becoming really prog!!). Immediately I think of "Atomic" from Blondie. ------------- my band : http://lgab.tk - http://lgab.tk |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 12:28
One of the coolest beats ever in a pop song. Certainly wouldn't put under the "hate that stuff" of this thread.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 19:33
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The Strangler's Golden Brown ... does that count? ------------- What? |