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Topic: New Magma album announcement
Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Subject: New Magma album announcement
Date Posted: September 21 2009 at 20:33
Thursday, September 3, 2009

http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2009/09/news-about-new-magma-album.html - News About the New Magma Album

Steve Feigenbaum just posted this email message from Stella Vander on the avant-progressive Yahoo group:

E-Re will be released the 1st week of November. It will also include a 60' making of' DVD.

It will be NTSC, no region coding and with English sub-titles.

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So yeah, discuss. Personally, I've been waiting for this album since last October, I hope it's different than KA, but still just as good. That's asking for a lot, but I think that it's possible, especially since it's been in the works for 30+ years.



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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 21 2009 at 20:37
This is incredibly awesome.

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Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: September 21 2009 at 22:44
E-Re .. sweet.  Was reading how Emehnteht-Re was only available in its entirety on the Mythes Et Legendes Volume III


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 21 2009 at 23:01
ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked  That's two of my favorite artists releasing albums this year, along with Gong...I feel it's deserving of the gratuitous use of the shocked smiley.  I can't wait Big smile


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 07:09
I've heard the future album played live in it's entirety. It's dark, repetitive and menacing, without that friendly sound from K.A. I'm not sure whether I'm going to like it, but it's definitely going to be strong.


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 07:12
Absolutely looking forward to it.

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 14:35
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Absolutely looking forward to it.


That's putting it mildly...this and the Gong album within a couple months of each other?  How, other than a Gong & Magma trip to Penn State to put on a day-long concert, could things get any better? Big smile


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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 17:39
It's gonna rock the house, guys.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 17:53
cool....   will put that on the must buy list...

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Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 18:04
Good news! Finally!

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 15:47
Ladies and gents, I proudly present you this:




Cool


Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 15:53
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Ladies and gents, I proudly present you this:




Cool


ClapClapClapClapClap Bravo!
Clap

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Posted By: inrainbows
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 16:13
I can't wait!  Clap

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Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 18:26
wow is that the cover? it looks similar to something a black metal band would put out...this is def going to be a dark album.

edit: hey wait, i call bullshit! first of all, the album name is spelt wrong, second: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BNP90JOg4yU/SoAA08BqKPI/AAAAAAAAAKY/MXeCe9o0thY/s1600-h/xxonlcuc.jpg - http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BNP90JOg4yU/SoAA08BqKPI/AAAAAAAAAKY/MXeCe9o0thY/s1600-h/xxonlcuc.jpg

this seems more like it.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 19:05
^ Can you give the source of that photo, please? It looks like a Magma traditional cover indeed, I would rather like the sarcophagus one being used.

Myself I took the cover from one of the leading Zeuhl blogs: http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2009/09/cover-art-for-emehntehtt-re.html - http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2009/09/cover-art-for-emehntehtt-re.html


Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 19:32
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

^ Can you give the source of that photo, please? It looks like a Magma traditional cover indeed, I would rather like the sarcophagus one being used.

Myself I took the cover from one of the leading Zeuhl blogs: http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2009/09/cover-art-for-emehntehtt-re.html - http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2009/09/cover-art-for-emehntehtt-re.html
 
Came from the same blog.
 
http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2009/08/when-will-emehnteht-re-be-released.html - http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2009/08/when-will-emehnteht-re-be-released.html


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Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 22:14
yeah that's where I got it from. personally i think the traditional one looks a bit more Magma-esque than the sarcophagus anyway...not even counting the medallian part of the picture.


Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: September 25 2009 at 19:44
Just as a little useless hyping thingamajig, for those of you who have heard the song live already, what extracts of other songs have you heard?

For example, I remember hearing some of Rinde (from Attahk), and I'm pretty sure some from Zombies (from Udu Wudu). Anything else, and maybe in what order too...

Also what do you think of them using extracts of many songs? I read somewhere that the "story" was spread out over Attahk and Udu Wudu anyway, but I kind of get the feeling that there's going to be a little medley going on rather than a complete work, opinions?


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 26 2009 at 01:56
I heard Emehnteht-Re (Extrait No. 2) on Udu Wudu as well.  Tongue

Regarding whether or not it'll be a complete new work, I have a feeling that Christian and crew won't just give us a medley, I'm sure it'll be an independent work.  Sure, the other pieces will be worked in, but I feel like they'll be altered, plus it'll include the material not available in any studio work, all the stuff they've worked out live. 


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Posted By: inrainbows
Date Posted: September 26 2009 at 14:22
 Can't imagine the new record without the Magma logo on the cover

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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 08:39
For curiosity I started listening thru imeem.com Magma's modern album. It is pretty bizarre music, but despite a few sections which came close to grating to my ears, it has excellent songwriting in it.

The first 8-9 minutes of K.A. pt3 are incredibly beautiful.

I might be interested in this new album if given good reviews.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 02 2009 at 15:21
It seems like I had the correct cover for the album; Amazon presales has the same one:

http://www.amazon.fr/Emehntehtt-R%C3%AA-Magma/dp/B002PNFJGK/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1254497520&sr=1-10 - http://www.amazon.fr/Emehntehtt-R%C3%AA-Magma/dp/B002PNFJGK/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1254497520&sr=1-10

I like this one a lot even if it doesn't have the Magma logo on it.


Posted By: Lars
Date Posted: October 05 2009 at 12:18
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

It seems like I had the correct cover for the album; Amazon presales has the same one:

http://www.amazon.fr/Emehntehtt-R%C3%AA-Magma/dp/B002PNFJGK/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1254497520&sr=1-10 - http://www.amazon.fr/Emehntehtt-R%C3%AA-Magma/dp/B002PNFJGK/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1254497520&sr=1-10

I like this one a lot even if it doesn't have the Magma logo on it.

I like it too, and I think it's better than the other one posted in this thread, which looks very amateur too me with its ugly faux-light Confused


Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: October 05 2009 at 13:25
Where is the preorder for US cusotmers? Ouch

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 05 2009 at 13:46
Originally posted by Evolutionary_Sleeper Evolutionary_Sleeper wrote:

Where is the preorder for US customers? Ouch


Well you could pre-order it on the French Amazon. Tongue


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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: October 05 2009 at 13:48
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by Evolutionary_Sleeper Evolutionary_Sleeper wrote:

Where is the preorder for US customers? Ouch


Well you could pre-order it on the French Amazon. Tongue


No thanks. Tongue

and also... http://www.tower.com/emehntehtt-re-cd-dvd-magma/wapi/113961864 - http://www.tower.com/emehntehtt-re-cd-dvd-magma/wapi/113961864   Confused

October 15th? ?_?


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Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: October 10 2009 at 21:09
i'm pretty sure the official date is november 5th


Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: October 12 2009 at 18:51
This was posted by Steve Feigenbaum at the avant-progressive yahoo group:

Stella just sent me this press release/hype sheet to help with the
promotion. So, here it is verbatim:

best rgds

Steve


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Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré


At the doors of immortality, dreams the Great Servant of Ptah, God
of creation drifting
infinitely within his own mind, as he tries to awaken Him.

In its message, as in its genesis and its making, Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré
is an intimate epic, an occult stride forward, a quest for the sublime.

Initiated in 1975, its composition beholds its whole fulfillment
after more than
three decades. It is the testimony of an unwaveringly timeless
inspiration, of which the
expectant present asserts itself beyond history. Connecting wide and
contrasted scenes,
it sets its coherence within its very dynamics, playing with
chiaroscuro , between choral
splendor, operatic jubilation and hurricane of spirits beyond graves.

As much a seraphic liturgy as it is a telluric opera, Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré
comes as the final
closure to a second trilogy, following upon that of Theusz Hamtaahk,
in Christian
Vander’s corpus. This is a music reaching out from a time before man
time. Born at the
heart of nebulas, fed on mineral glow, and riding crypts capped with
a cosmic vault.

Bruno Heuzé Translation : Mary-
Noelle Dana


This record comes with a 57-minute DVD, "PHASES", as a testimonial
to the intensity of our work during its recording


Stella Vander vocals, percussions
Isabelle Feuillebois vocals
Hervé Aknin vocals
Benoît Alziary vibraphone
James Mac Gaw guitare
Bruno Ruder Fender Rhodes
Philippe Bussonnet bass, piccolo bass
Christian Vander drums, vocals , piano, Fender Rhodes,
keybords, percussions

also featuring : Emmanuel Borghi : piano - Himiko Paganotti,
Antoine Paganotti , Claude Lamamy,
Marcus Linon, Pierre-Michel Sivadier : backing vocals

international release: November 5.



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Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: October 12 2009 at 19:34
For those unhealthily obsessed with Magma: http://myfile.hanafos.com/%7Ejangminsu/magma/MAGMA-MYTHES-index.html - an awesome link about the story of Magma's albums


Posted By: phleshy
Date Posted: October 18 2009 at 11:53
The old works fit in seemlessly because they were originally intended to be part of emehnteht re. It has dark moments, but I also think it is the most spiritual piece Magma has ever done. The last 20 mins is all newly composed material. Based on the several live performances i've heard, it is one of the best they have done.


Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 18:05
It's getting closer to release... Where would a citizen of the USA pick one up? Amazon still doesn't have it.

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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 18:53
Originally posted by LiquidEternity LiquidEternity wrote:

It's getting closer to release... Where would a citizen of the USA pick one up? Amazon still doesn't have it.


Wayside will be getting copies soon, according to Steve Feigenbaum.




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Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 19:59
hopefully he'll be well stocked, I'll be checking Wayside daily till they come in so I dont miss out!


Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 00:16
New album is also available on Seventh records right now.

http://v2.seventhrecords.com/index.php - http://v2.seventhrecords.com/index.php







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Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 10:05
Good lord. I hope there are cheaper version available somewhere. I spent months carefully waiting and checking to get their other albums at reasonable prices. I still don't even have their debut. Here's to hoping it becomes more affordable than $20, not this 30+ before shipping...

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 10:09
I am simply awash with joy.

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 10:10
Originally posted by DJPuffyLemon DJPuffyLemon wrote:

For those unhealthily obsessed with Magma: http://myfile.hanafos.com/%7Ejangminsu/magma/MAGMA-MYTHES-index.html - an awesome link about the story of Magma's albums
 
Thanks! Great link.


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 10:48
It's not cheap, but remember it comes with a DVD.


Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: November 02 2009 at 19:28
I've actually read that the DVD is not all that great. But I guess that's opinion anyway, but it was described as being a chronicle of the recording sessions of the second half of the album. If that's the majority of the DVD, then it's not really that interesting.

At the same time, I have not yet bought anything Magma related, so I definitely owe it to them to at least buy THIS album.


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 02 2009 at 21:39
There are short extracts of E-Re Pts. 1-3 on the band's myspace page:  http://www.myspace.com/magmaofficial - http://www.myspace.com/magmaofficial

(Short means 1.5-2.5 minutes)


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Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: November 02 2009 at 23:59
Any word on the Vinyl?


Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: November 04 2009 at 18:57
Magma's new album available at Wayside:
http://www.waysidemusic.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=SEVENTH%20A%20XXXV -
http://www.waysidemusic.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=SEVENTH%20A%20XXXV




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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 04 2009 at 19:20
Ah yeah, I suppose I could have posted that here as well...ah well, the random discussion thread learned this a few hours ago, several of us have ordered it already.  A big thanks to Wayside for making it available to us Americans for an acceptable price. Clap

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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 17:15
Woah, while I'm not a zheul fan, but reviews like these get me interested in this album, especially since I gave "K.A." a try and found the songwriting to be masterful.

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=248297


Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 21:27
Shoop. There goes thirty dollars. I kept telling myself I'd wait for a cheaper release, but I suck at that sort of thing. Looking forward to it! Anyone know how long it takes to ship? Should I expect it before Thanksgiving week (in the US)?

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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 21:32
Originally posted by LiquidEternity LiquidEternity wrote:

Shoop. There goes thirty dollars. I kept telling myself I'd wait for a cheaper release, but I suck at that sort of thing. Looking forward to it! Anyone know how long it takes to ship? Should I expect it before Thanksgiving week (in the US)?


You should get it before Thanksgiving. I ordered mine yesterday and it's already shipped. So it'll be here within a few days.


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Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 21:40
Sweet deal.

For those that have listened to it, are the separate parts of the title track, well, clearly separated like on KA, or are they one large piece divided into tracks for ease (a la The Whirlwind)?


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 07 2009 at 08:12
Hopefully this will arrive today.


Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: November 07 2009 at 19:14
Originally posted by LiquidEternity LiquidEternity wrote:

Sweet deal.

For those that have listened to it, are the separate parts of the title track, well, clearly separated like on KA, or are they one large piece divided into tracks for ease (a la The Whirlwind)?


Listening to my copy now. It's one track divided up.


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Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: November 07 2009 at 22:05
Cool. They do long form pretty well, I'd say. Although, I don't find KA to be one track at all. It's very separated to my ears.

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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 09:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqhNGAnaV6s

=)
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The bass sounds great!


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: November 10 2009 at 19:18
Listening to Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré for the first time was honestly one of the best hours I spent this entire year listening to new music.


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 10 2009 at 19:42
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Listening to Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré for the first time was honestly one of the best hours I spent this entire year listening to new music.


Oh boy do I want to buy that or what? Can't wait!


Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: November 12 2009 at 19:34
Everywhere, I hear extremely positive comments. Every one of the 13 ratings in here are 5-stars and even in 'rateyourmusic' , it manages a strong rating.

It's very expensive tho, I wish they could leave an option with the CD alone and charge $15. 


Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 20:40
So I've listened to it fairly thoroughly and I find that I don't like it as much as K.A., not nearly as much, but it is definitely in their top 5 compositions ever. It would have overtaken K.A, but unfortunately there were too many filler tracks (tracks 1, 4, 5, and 6) Only 2 and 3 are worth listening to more than twice because the rest are pretty much just there to add atmosphere. Track 1 I would claim as a partial exception to this, however it is on it's own just a decent track and I've been constantly skipping over it because I'm impatient and want to get to the bulk of the album. Tracks 2 and 3 are amazing, though possibly a step below K.A. as a whole, otherwise as it stands those two are probably their second best effort ever.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 23:28
Originally posted by DJPuffyLemon DJPuffyLemon wrote:

So I've listened to it fairly thoroughly and I find that I don't like it as much as K.A., not nearly as much, but it is definitely in their top 5 compositions ever. It would have overtaken K.A, but unfortunately there were too many filler tracks (tracks 1, 4, 5, and 6) Only 2 and 3 are worth listening to more than twice because the rest are pretty much just there to add atmosphere. Track 1 I would claim as a partial exception to this, however it is on it's own just a decent track and I've been constantly skipping over it because I'm impatient and want to get to the bulk of the album. Tracks 2 and 3 are amazing, though possibly a step below K.A. as a whole, otherwise as it stands those two are probably their second best effort ever.


Tracks 1 and 4 filler?  I don't get that at all.  I consider those to be essential parts of  "Ëmëhntëhtt-Rê". As good as "E-Re II" is, it wouldn't be as good without "E-Re I"'s lead in, and "E-Re III" wouldn't be as good without it leading into "E-Re IV".  I love the transitions and contrasts and always prefer to listen to all of the "E-Re" "suite".

 I quite often have skipped the last five minutes of the album (those last two tracks), but they don't distract from the rest of the music anyway (parts 1-4 of "Ëmëhntëhtt-Rê") and I treat those last ones as a sort of epilogue.


Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: January 03 2010 at 00:46
Well they are still parts of the main composition, but it's like listening to MDK and then the very last track fades into a high pitched tone. It's really a great way to end the album because it adds so much tension AND resolution at the same time, but in the end, who wants to hear that tone for the whole duration? It's annoying and possibly bad for your ears. Track 4 is kind of like this because it ends the tension from track 3. I'm judging a bit quickly though since it's a really hard work to digest so perhaps after listening to the whole thing from start to finish again it'll make sense.


Posted By: seckin2112
Date Posted: January 11 2010 at 14:10
Magma returns... very good news...


Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: January 13 2010 at 12:22
Finally got my copy a few days ago. After the first few listens it hasn't grabbed me in the way K.A.did. I think I'm still struggling to recontextualise all the familiar material. Despite the excellent arrangements part of me keeps thinking "well that bit's from Attahk and that's from Udu Wudu" and so on. K.A. had the advantage of being completely new material.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 13 2010 at 13:02
I thought only K.A.III was new material Ermm


Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 11:15
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I thought only K.A.III was new material Ermm

Perhaps I should have clarified my statements. Unless I'm very much mistaken, nothing on K.A. was released on any of Magma's previous studio albums. I know Vander wrote a lot of K.A. way back when and the band may have played it live for donkey's years for all I know, but it was all new to me. In contrast, because E-R contains large sections which sound extremely familiar to me juxtaposed with stuff I've never heard before makes for a weird listening experience.

[Edited for coherency... my brain's not quite working today].


Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: January 22 2010 at 17:53
I'm going to venture to say that Magma is the only dinosaur band whose 2000 albums are better than their 70's albums. At the very least, they are much more mature and Vander has definitely finally figured out how to actually write a long piece of music.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 22 2010 at 18:03
Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I thought only K.A.III was new material Ermm

Perhaps I should have clarified my statements. Unless I'm very much mistaken, nothing on K.A. was released on any of Magma's previous studio albums. I know Vander wrote a lot of K.A. way back when and the band may have played it live for donkey's years for all I know, but it was all new to me. In contrast, because E-R contains large sections which sound extremely familiar to me juxtaposed with stuff I've never heard before makes for a weird listening experience.

[Edited for coherency... my brain's not quite working today].


Sorry I missed this! I'm reading again the reviews and it seems like themes from K.A. were used on tracks released on other compilations and live albums, but only as "quotes", so you're 99% right.



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