Forty Years of Italian Progrock
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Topic: Forty Years of Italian Progrock
Posted By: Nightfly
Subject: Forty Years of Italian Progrock
Date Posted: August 26 2009 at 12:57
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If you click the link below it will take you to the Background magazine website where there is an excellent article titled Forty Years Of Italian Progrock 1969 - 2009. It's written by Erik Neuteboom, someone who will be well known to many of you here and he writes about what he considers to be the most important and his favourite bands/albums of the genre.
It makes facinating reading and a great place to discover Italian prog alongside the excellent resources here.
The first 2 chapters have been published and more to follow soon.
Great work Erik
 http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/ - http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/
P.S. click the link for Specials on the website to find the article.
UPDATE - The link above is temporarily broken. This one can be used until it is repaired......
http://home.kpn.nl/nomzamo/BM/ - http://home.kpn.nl/nomzamo/BM/
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: August 29 2009 at 15:03
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Hello Paul.
I read your e-mail in which you pointed at this post on the Prog Archives Forum, thanks for supporting my Italian Progrock Special
 !This week chapter 1 (introduction), 2 (Classic Era), 8 (My Top 20) and 9 (Epilogue) are published, the rest will follow soon. Good luck with your Italian progrock quest and .... have a good read Memowakeman
 ... ERIK NEUTEBOOM (PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST)
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 04:10
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No problem Erik, glad to add my support to such an excellent article.
I'm surprised there hasn't been more interest in it so far. There's such a lot of reading though it will take people a while to digest it all.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 15:47
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Well Paul, I am sure your post has pleased many progheads who
are interested in Italian progrock, thanks again for your support
This week Background Magazine has published the chapters 1 (introduction), 2 (Classic era), 8 (my top 20) and 9 (epilogue), the forthcoming weeks you can enjoy the chapters: 3) The Years Between 1980 And 2002 4) Interesting New Bands And New Releases Between 2003 and 2009 5) Reunions Of Legendary And Popular Bands In The Last Decade 6) Compilations And Special Projects 7) DVD’s I am very glad with the collaboration of new bands Pandora, Also interesting is the presence of many (new) Italian bands on several compilations:
COLOSSUS PROJECT – The Empire & The Rebellion – Various Artists (2008) - Colossus Project is an Italian musical project featuring four members and a wide range of guest musicians, including ‘big names’ Keiko Kumagai (Ars Nova) and Fred Schendel (Glass Hammer) and fellow Italians Cristiano Roversi (Moongarden, Submarine Silence and recently The Watch) and Joe
DANTE’S INFERNO – The Divine Comedy – Part 1 (2008) - Here’s another stunning progrock project by Finnish progrock magazine Colossus and French progrock label Musea entitled Dante’s Inferno – The Divine Comedy – Part 1:
Nuova Era, Count, Wicked Minds, Garamond, Contrappunto Project, CAP, Armalite, Corte Aulica.
GIALLO! – One Suite For The Murderer – Various Artists (2009) : Alfio Costa, Dark Session, Leviathan, Floating State. TUONEN TYTAR 2 – A Tribute To Finnish Progressive Rock Of The 70’s – Various Artists (2008): Christiano Riversi (Moongarden/Submarine Silence) Il Fauno Di Marmo
Ciao!
ERIK NEUTEBOOM (PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST)
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 16:07
http://www.progressor.net/review/tdc_2008.html%20www.progressor.net/review/tdc_2008.html#p2%20www.progressor.net/review/tdc_2008.html#P3%20www.progressor.net/review/tdc_2008.html#p4 - http://www.progressor.net/review/tdc_2008.html http://www.progressor.net/review/tdc_2008.html#p2 http://www.progressor.net/review/tdc_2008.html#P3 http://www.progressor.net/review/tdc_2008.html#p4 A couple of weeks of work, but worth it after all... |
erik neuteboom wrote:Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 16:21
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Funny, today I read this PM (dated 12 May 2009) by Gabriella (PR of Ubi Maior):
Hi Erik,
- First of all I would like to thank you for your kind words about "Nostos" Ubi Maior debut album. I would like to let you know that they have released their second album "Senza Tempo". In this cd the major influence (yet not the only one) lies on Neil Gaiman's graphic novel masterpiece, Sandman. I would like to send you both CD's but I don't know where... Cheers, Gabriella (aka Lady Belladonna) Well Gabriella, meanwhile I have reviewed Ubi Maior's new album,
it will be published in Chapter 4 but please have a look at:
http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=14941&reviews_id=703 - http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=14941&reviews_id=703
Ciao!
ERIK NEUTEBOOM (PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST)
http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=14941&reviews_id=703 -
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 16:34
| Ehm.... Gabriella is not a member of the band - she is their PR, and keyboardist Gabriele Manzini's wife. I happen to know both in real life. |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: September 01 2009 at 13:00
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Hi Erik, as I told you, congrats for your article, it was a very good reading and the information you wrote is great and helpful for anyone interested in RPI, I am looking forward to your next chapters.
------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 01 2009 at 13:46
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Well, well, have a beer (Corona I presume
 ) from me Memowakeman, my Mexican friend, many thanks for your very enthousiastic words, written by an Italian Progrock Specialist,
what a pleasant ego gratification
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ERIK NEUTEBOOM (PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST)
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 01 2009 at 14:15
Well worth it Raff, what an excellent in depth review
Now that's a project I'd be very interested in hearing. |
Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: September 01 2009 at 18:59
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Raff, that's a great review! I really enjoy that CD and look forward to the next ones.
Erik, what a great treasure of information! If we don't already have one, would you mind if we put a link on the RPI sub-genre page? ------------- "I have seen the broken sky turn blue." http://gnosis2000.net/ratertodd.shtml" rel="nofollow - My Gnosis Ratings |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: September 01 2009 at 21:33
I believe that is a great idea, and i think Erik would love it! ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 02 2009 at 01:21
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Thanks Todd and Memowakeman, good idea and I am very pleased that you keep Paul's thread alive
By the way, here's my entire Dante's Inferno review, indeed it took
some time to listen to the four CD's ...
 ... : http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=14652&reviews_id=663 - http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=14652&reviews_id=663
Well, fellow Italian progrock fans, I hope this week more chapters will
be published, I am looking forward to it, thanks for your support
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ERIK NEUTEBOOM (PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST)
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: September 02 2009 at 06:16
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Pandora is a great band, I just listen to the album several times and I'm very pleaset what I heared.
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 02 2009 at 07:58
Erik, your enthusiastic review along with Raff's make this project sound like essential listening. Some names I'm familiar with, others not but a collection I will have to buy sooner or later despite the price.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 02 2009 at 10:22
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Well Paul, it's incredible how many interesting lesser known and unknown progrock bands you can find on the Colossus projects, in this case Il Fauno Di Marmo on the Tuonen Tytar triple CD is a stunning example of a (for me) totally unknown but promising new Italian progrock band
In the forthcoming Chapter 6 you will read more about it but .... poor wallets  !See: http://www.myspace.com/ilfaunodimarmo - http://www.myspace.com/ilfaunodimarmo
ERIK NEUTEBOOM (PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST)
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 02 2009 at 10:28
All very good but this needs to be in the "Get The Word Out" section as all promotions of outside websites should be. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 10:42
 SENSITIVA IMMAGINE : The Italian answer to early Genesis?
See Chapter 2 : The Classic Era
ERIK NEUTEBOOM (PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST)
CIAO
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 12:11
Erik, I have already made a note to check this band out due to your early Genesis comparrisons, along with many others you have reccomended. With only around 30 RPI albums in my collection I'm only scratching the surface of this facinating .genre. 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 12:47
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Hello Paul.
In my opinion Sensitiva Immagine sounds like Selling England By The Pound with Italian vocals
!Only 30 RPI albums? To be honest, I own at about 60 RPI CD's and around 10 RPI LP's (including a rare Rustichelli & Bordini Japanese version), not really impressive, especially if you look at the hundreds of RPI reviews I have written
 ....Today I got the monthly Btf Newsletter, some interesting items:
http://www.btf.it/default.asp?ij=3&qa=p&qb=sc&jk=14710&zp=104D&ln=E&opt=dettaglio">
 http://www.btf.it/default.asp?ij=3&qa=p&qb=sc&jk=14704&zp=104D&ln=E&opt=dettaglio"> http://www.btf.it/default.asp?ij=3&qa=p&qb=sc&jk=14711&zp=104D&ln=E&opt=dettaglio"> - Il Ruscello - Paesaggio Solare (1972)
- Le RanestRane - Nosferatu Il Vampiro (2006)
- Gan Eden Il giardino Delle Delizie - Ritratto di ballerina (2009)
I hope I can add these albums to my Italian Progrock special if I succeed to get this trio!
ERIK NEUTEBOOM (PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST)
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Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 13:05
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Il Ruscello is a new band--the 1972 is part of their album title. But they sound as if they come from 1972, at least the samples I've heard. This one should be very good! ------------- "I have seen the broken sky turn blue." http://gnosis2000.net/ratertodd.shtml" rel="nofollow - My Gnosis Ratings |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 05 2009 at 10:53
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Thanks Todd and ... sounding Seventies is for me a must to check out Il Ruscello
! Thanks for the many views, pleasant posts, the encouraging PM's and the
supportive e-mails, I am very glad with your enthousiasm about my Italian
progrock article and a big hand for Paul's initiative to create this thread
ERIK NEUTEBOOM (PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST)
See also:
http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_progandaluz/ - http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_progandaluz/
http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_quest/ - http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_quest/
http://www.progwalhalla.nl/progcorner/ - http://www.progwalhalla.nl/progcorner/
CIAO!
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 05 2009 at 14:03
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Holy frig Neuteboom, every time i talk to you it costs me money 'cause you have so many good recommendations. Good to see you again in cyber-world,and an excellent article too.Congrats ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 08 2009 at 15:37
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Thanks for your kind words fellow symphomaniac Sinkadotentree
One of the best RPI releases in the last 10 years, Heavy Proggers VIII Strada,
you will read about it in the forthcoming Chapter 4 (New Bands):
 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_86anGojQGQU/Sn4m7gFqD_I/AAAAAAAAAq8/RrJdgqZ86s0/s1600-h/img062.jpg - javascript:popupWindow%28http://www.progwalhalla.nl/popup_image.php?pID=14733%29 - VIII Strada : La Leggenda Della Grande Porta (their trademark:
exciting interplay between sparkling piano and harder-edged electric guitar)
CIAO
ERIK NEUTEBOOM (PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST)
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 09 2009 at 11:08
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A CELEBRATION:
FORTY YEARS ITALIAN PROGROCK 1969 – 2009 PREVIEW : Chapters 3/7, what to expect? 3) The Years Between 1980 And 2002 Featuring: Abiogenesi, Arcansiel, Asgard, Aton’s, Il Balletto Di Bronzo, Barrock, Cage, Calliope, Circle Of Fairies, CAP, Contrappunto, Deus Ex Machina, Devil Doll, DFA, Distillieri Di Malto, Divae, Doracor, Empire, Eris Pluvia, L’Estate Di San Martino, Ezra Winston, Foglie Di Vietro, Garden Wall, Germinale, Leviathan, Mad Crayon, Malibran, Men Of Lake, Minstrel, MO.DO, Moongarden, Nuova Era, Rhapsody (Of Fire), Romantic Warriors, Standarte, Submarine Silence, Tale Cue, Il Trono Dei Ricordi. 4) Interesting New Bands And New Releases Between 2003 and 2009 Featuring: VIII Strada, Ainur, Archangel, Areknames, Aries, Il Bacio Delle Medusa, Cage, Il Castello Di Atlante, Il Cerchio D’Oro, Conqueror, Coral Caves, Delirium, Doracor, Faveravola, Finisterre, Germinale, Gan Eden – Giardino Delle Delizie, Goad, Hostsonaten, London Underground, Malaavia, Malibran, Mangala Vallis, Marigold,
5) Reunions Of Legendary And Popular Bands In The Last Decade Featuring: Banco, Il Balletto Di Bronzo, Campo Di Marte, Delirium, Latte
6) Compilations And Special Projects: Featuring: (THE) 7 SAMURAI – The Ultimate Epic – Various Artists (2007) Here is another project by Colossus and Musea, this time featuring three bands (including two Italian bands), each with an ‘epic’ composition between 20 and 30 minutes. CAP and Tapobran - This is an Italian prog project by Mangala Vallis member Gigi Cavalli Cocchi, he is both the brainchild as the producer. The bands are: Mangala Vallis, Arcanoise, Trama FAFNIR – Various Artists (1993) - In 1993 the Italian progrock label Kaliphonia released this interesting compilation CD featuring many lesser known and unknown Italian progrock bands: Fancy Fluid, CAP, Marcello Capra, Deus Ex Machina, Clarion (ex-Zauber member), New Credo, Michele Tale Di Bella, H2O, Myros, Ars Antiqua and Max Oil. COLOSSUS PROJECT – The Empire & The Rebellion – Various Artists (2008) - Colossus Project is an Italian musical project featuring four members and a wide range of guest musicians, including ‘big names’ Keiko Kumagai (Ars Nova) and Fred Schendel (Glass Hammer) and fellow Italians Cristiano Roversi (Moongarden, Submarine Silence and recently The Watch) and Joe DANTE’S INFERNO – The Divine Comedy – Part 1 (2008) - Here’s another stunning progrock project by Finnish progrock magazine Colossus and French progrock label Musea entitled Dante’s Inferno – The Divine Comedy – Part 1: - Nuova Era, Count, Wicked Minds, Garamond, Contrappunto Project, CAP, Armalite, Corte Aulica. GIALLO! – One Suite For The Murderer – Various Artists (2009) : The bands: Alfio Costa, Dark Session, Leviathan, TUONEN TYTAR 2 – A Tribute To Finnish Progressive Rock Of The 70’s – Various Artists (2008): Featuring: - Christiano Riversi (Moongarden/Submarine Silence)
Il Fauno Di Marmo 7) DVD’s Featuring: - Ainur, Banco, Jumbo, Malibran, Mangala Vallis, Le Orme, Un Biglietto Per L’Inferno Tribute Concert, PFM, Wicked Minds.
ATTENTION: Due to a serious problem it's not possible to visit the original
Background Magazine website, please use this substitute if you
want to read my Italian progrock article:
http://home.kpn.nl/nomzamo/bm - http://home.kpn.nl/nomzamo/bm
CIAO
ERIK NEUTEBOOM : PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: September 09 2009 at 11:45
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Excellent, hope those chapters to get published soon ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 09 2009 at 14:31
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Excellent Erik, looking forward to reading the next chapter.
By the way the link to Background magazine at the top of the thread is temporarily broken. You can use this one for now until it is repaired....
http://home.kpn.nl/nomzamo/BM/ - http://home.kpn.nl/nomzamo/BM/
Ooops just noticed you've already mentioned this Erik.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 09 2009 at 15:43
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Abrazos Memowakeman
What a mindblowing post Paul, very informative
However, thanks for keeping your thread alive One of my favorites:
 ERIK NEUTEBOOM (PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST)
See also:
http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_progandaluz/ - http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_progandaluz/
http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_quest/ - http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_quest/
http://www.progwalhalla.nl/progcorner/ - http://www.progwalhalla.nl/progcorner/
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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: September 13 2009 at 08:54
| This looks realy interesting! It's hard to get to 'know' the RPI scene, for it is not as populair as the English scene and most of the information about bands is in Italian. I didn't of it's existence before I got on Prog Archives. I will read you piece as soon as I have the time for it Erik! |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 15:15
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Thanks fellow Dutchman Friso
But back to Italy, one of my favorites in the forthcoming chapter 3:
default.asp?ij=3&qa=p&qb=sc&xy=cl007&jk=9427&zp=104D&ln=E&opt=dettaglio -
 And an interesting non-PA formation in the forthcoming chapter 4:
 ....
featuring Gabriele Manzini (ex-The Watch, now Ubi Maior) and ... Damian Wilson! See also:
http://www.archangelsworld.com/index2.php?lan=eng - http://www.archangelsworld.com/index2.php?lan=eng
It will take a week or two to finish Chapter 3 so I hope patience is on your side
CIAO
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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 12:16
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I've read most of the classic era chapter and I was amazed. I knew there was a lot of RPI out there, but I didn't know it was so huge! I sometimes wonder if Italy can be considered prognation #2 (after England).
What a coincedence; The world became the world and Banco are my first italian prog experiences too  !
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 12:41
| ^ Take a look at this thread Friso http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60508 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60508 and you'll see that in terms of number of bands from each country here on PA that Italy is third highest. I suspect that the UK and USA has a higher ratio of prog related bands listed than Italy so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Italy in fact has more prog bands. It certainly is a fertile country for prog. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 12:50
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Great to share that Italian prog love, Friso and Paul (nice thread but I miss Aruba ...) , keep on digging in that mindblowing Classic Era (I still have that Rustichelli & Bordini LP for you Friso
). Indeed you can consider Italy as the #2 prognation after the UK but personally the Prog Andaluz (for many progheads still unknown territory) is my favorite category after the UK progrock because of the blend of emotion and skills and the distinctive sound of the flamenco guitar But I have to admit that the Italian progrock is more varied and more adventurous and the amount of bands is close to endless, you will need at least one more lifetime to discover all those interesting bands from the late Sixties until now! One of my favorite Hammond drenched Classic Italian Progrock albums:
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 14:34
| Erik, I have often heard you singing the praises of prog Andaluz and have listened to a small amount and was impressed with what I heard, notably Triana. It is certainly an area marked for further investigation in the future but at the moment I daren't, I can't afford it!!! |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 14:53
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Triana is mindblowing progrock, they paved the way for the Prog Andaluz movement (but ... that poor wallet of yours Paul ), I was at about 18 when I was at the home of a friend who was in that time the #1 Dutch proghead (second half of the Seventies), he introduced me to Triana by playing their first two albums, I was in Prog Andaluz Heaven. By the way, my next project for Background Magazine is a huge article about the Spanish Progressive Music (1966-2009) including many interesting progressive non-PA bands like Cerebrum, Evolution, The Storm, Cal, Franklin, Las Grecas and The Paco De Lucia Sextet, perhaps I will post a link in this thread.
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 15:04
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Sounds like another ambitious project Erik, have a lie down first
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 19 2009 at 13:40
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Thanks for taking care of me Paul
Because I am waiting for the publishing of Italian Progrock Chapter 3, I am very busy with my forthcoming Spanish Progressive Music special, at this moment I have good contacts with unknown new Prog Andaluz bands like Arabiga, see:
http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=15069&reviews_id=746&language=en - http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=15069&reviews_id=746&language=en
But back to Italy, here's an interesting new Italian progrock band named Proteo
I hope to add it to Chapter 4: http://www.proteorock.com/start.htm - http://www.proteorock.com/start.htm
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 19 2009 at 14:08
| Had a quick listen to Proteo on myspace Erik. I must admit I wasn't blown away by them but I only heard 2 tracks. I'll give them another blast when I have more time. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 19 2009 at 14:11
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Is that a typcial British understatement for "a bit disappointing" Paul
? This week I got several PM's and e-mails from Italian bands and labels offering to send me new Italian progrock CD's, I am sure your thread has contributed to this, multo grazie Paul |
Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 19 2009 at 14:22
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Glad to help Erik.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 20 2009 at 08:44
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Well Paul, three weeks after you have opened this thread, I notice that it
has turned into a kind of 'Prog Archives Italian Progrock Library' where
until today almost 800 progheads prefered to read in silence
ERIK NEUTEBOOM (PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST)
See also:
http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_progandaluz/ - http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_progandaluz/
http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_quest/ - http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_quest/
http://www.progwalhalla.nl/progcorner/ - http://www.progwalhalla.nl/progcorner/
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 12:49
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Erik, when can we expect to see chapter 3? Very soon I hope
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 24 2009 at 07:47
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Paul, Chapter 3 will be published this Saturday afternoon, to add
the pictures is a painstaking and time consuming task
.... ERIK NEUTEBOOM (PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST)
Do you want to know more about Lalo Huber's first solo CD, a triple tribute
Finnish prog album, the new Astralis and Supay or interesting lesser known and
unknown new bands like Retsam Suriv, Castle Canyon or Archangel, see:
http://www.progwalhalla.nl/reviews.php?language=en&page=1 - http://www.progwalhalla.nl/reviews.php?language=en&page=1
CIAO
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 24 2009 at 13:09
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Excellent Erik, I'll look forward to reading it.
Astralis sound well worth checking out from what you said in your review. I'll do it!
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 24 2009 at 13:40
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Paul, I am looking forward to it too, it lasts a bit too long but on the other hand, as I mentioned, it's a tough job to do the lay-out with all those covers. Chapter 4 will be my favourite because of the wonderful live photos and the amount of interesting lesser known and unknown new Italian bands, I hope to receive the new Giardino Delle Delizie this week so I can add it too Chapter 4.
Indeed Paul, Astralis is worth to check out but I am also very pleased with the new Supay featuring that exciting blend of Andean flutes and hot rocking guitars
But back to Italy, this evening I enjoyed this great new Italian progrock band: VIII STRADA - La Leggenda Della Grande Porta
CIAO
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 24 2009 at 13:49
| ^ Oh yes, I've heard good things about them too Erik. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 24 2009 at 13:52
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Well Paul, to me VIII Strada sounds as captivating Heavy Prog, their trademark is the
splendid interplay between the sparkling piano and harder-edged electric guitar
ERIK NEUTEBOOM (PROG ANDALUZ, RPI & MELLOTRON SPECIALIST)
See also:
http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_progandaluz/ - http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_progandaluz/
http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_quest/ - http://www.dprp.net/specials/2009_quest/
http://www.progwalhalla.nl/progcorner/ - http://www.progwalhalla.nl/progcorner/
http://www.dvdivas.net/ProgVoices/A/Archangel-Akallabeth.html">
 See:
http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=14943&reviews_id=704&language=en - http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=14943&reviews_id=704&language=en
http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=11291&products_id=14943&language=en -
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 26 2009 at 07:52
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Hello fellow Italian Progrock fans.
Today Background Magazine has published chapter 3 of my Italian
progrock article entitled: The Years Between 1980 And 2002, see:
http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/ItalianSpecial3.html - http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/ItalianSpecial3.html
Good luck with your Italian Progrock quest
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 04:36
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Excellent news Erik, I've only just started reading chapter 3 but it looks full of interesting choices to check out. I'll get back to you in due course when I've had chance to read it more thoroughly and no doubt find some more interesting additions to my RPI collection.
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: October 03 2009 at 23:02
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Hi Erik,
I could at last read your third chapter, what I found really interestingl is that you put albums from bands that are really different, I mean someone can read useful information about oriented classical RPI bands, or eclectic ones or even metal. So for someone who loves prog from Italy will be delighted to find info about Divae, or Deus ex Machina, Calliope, Mad Crayon, Nuova Era or La Torre dell'Alchimista.
But I have one question, why did you decide to end tour chapter 3 in the 2002 year and not in 2000?, I mean, is there in 2003 a different remarkable sound that made you separate your next chapter from 2003 to 2009? ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: October 09 2009 at 14:38
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Hello Paul: Thanks
Chapter 4 will be published soon, poor wallet of yours even for my 'conservative standards'
About your question, ... I really don't know, I have forgotten the reason
.....Are you interested in new Italian progrock like Narrow Pass, Gan Eden, Proteo or Il Ruscello or do you want to know more about good new but lesser known and unknown new progrock from all over the world like Eye To Eye (France), Ageness and Pax Romana (Finland), Astralis (Chili), Supay (Peru), Janos Varga Project (Hungary), Castle Canyon (USA), Retsam Suriv (Argentina), Anamor (Poland) or Kotebel and Neverness (Spain) or a triple Finnish Progrock tribute CD, check out:
http://www.progwalhalla.nl/reviews.php?page=1&language=en - http://www.progwalhalla.nl/reviews.php?page=1&language=en
CIAO
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: October 12 2009 at 14:54
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I'll look forward to chapter 4 Erik. I'm also curious to see your overall top 20 which I think you said you'd reveal afer the full article was published. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: October 13 2009 at 12:51
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Me too Paul, it's planned this weekend. And I have good news because today I received a parcel from Italy (from the AMS label) including CD's by Il Ruscello and Nodo Gordiano, I am very glad with the collaboration of this Italian progrock label because now I am able to add these very interesting new Italian progrock bands to Chapter 4 (New Bands)
And about my All Time Italian Progrock Top 20 (Chapter 8), it's already published, along with Chapter 1, 2 and 9 (Epilogue) .... |
Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: October 13 2009 at 13:19
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Very interesting to read your top 20 Erik, steering away from the more obvious Banco and PFM choices. Never occured to me to look and see if it was already published, asuming it wouldn't appear until all the previous chapters were in place. I think Il Ruscello are a very promising new band though I think the vocals let them down a bit.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: October 13 2009 at 13:36
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Well said Paul: " ... steering away from the more obvious Banco and PFM choices... ",
I will keep this poetic phrase in mind while making reviews in the near future
And now I am going to listen to Il Ruscello and Nodo Gordiano, ciao.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 14:54
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Today I got from Progwalhalla the 4-CD box set The Divine Comedy Part 2 (entitled Dante's Purgatorio) to review, I am stunned by the huge amount of Italian bands, from known formations like Nuova Era and Mad Crayon to a cascade of interesting new names like KBridge, Ten Midnight, Soulengine, Atlantis1001, Contrappunto Project, Sophya Baccini, Armalite and Passini & Ragozza, I will tell you more about their progrock sound in Chapter 6 (Compilations And Special Projects) of my Italian progrock article.
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 13:23
| ^ Erik, I'm going to buy that one of these days....when I'm feeling a bit richer. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: October 21 2009 at 16:04
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Hello viewers, keep on viewing, don't post
.. bye |
Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: November 01 2009 at 12:08
Erik, I read your very interesting review at Progwalhalla. It sounds well worth getting but I haven't even got part 1 yet so in all it's going to be a bit expensive. Perhaps when I win the lottery.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 20 2009 at 15:27
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Well Paul, here's good news, the first part of Chapter 4 (New Bands) of my Italian progrock article, finally:
http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/ItalianSpecial4A-M.html - http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/ItalianSpecial4A-M.html
Including ...
.... Il Bacio Delle Medusa
http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/images/Bacio1.jpg">
 Ciao
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: November 20 2009 at 17:07
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Excellent Erik, I'm off to read it.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 20 2009 at 19:02
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And I thought I knew Italian prog. How many unknown names! Good work, Erik. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 21 2009 at 04:51
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Hello Paul: thanks, I am looking forward to your complaints about your wallet ....
! Hello Marcel: thanks, good to hear from you and ... December 19th there will be a
Progwalhalla evening, we hope to see you back after a long time
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 23 2009 at 11:16
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"Ciao Erik...GREAT JOB! Your articles are very interesting and complete! Thanks for the beautiful description of our albums! You have captured the emotion of our music and lyrics!
A great prog-kiss from all the band...thanks for your support Erik! Cheers!
Eva & BDM"
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: November 23 2009 at 13:01
Good to see you Erik!!!
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 23 2009 at 13:54
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Yes, welcome back ! And it's good to know about ProgWalhalla evening. I'm not on Hans' mailing list anymore, I think. I really would like to come one day but it's difficult for me if it's still in Zaandam. That's a 4 hour drive from where I live in Belgium, and a 4 hour drive back the same evening because on Sunday morning most of the times I have to work. The Hague would be much better for me: that means a 6 hour drive in total, and that's what I do sometimes to visit friends and family. But hey, if I can make it or not: good to see you back here, and keep up all the good work! |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 23 2009 at 17:05
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Thanks Bob, I haven't disappeared totally
Well Marcel, perhaps the next Progwalhalla evening is at my home, thanks for your kind words
About the Il Bacio Delle Medusa their e-mail to me, I have posted it here on PA because I have put so much time and energy in my Italian progrock article that I can't resist this way of ego-gratification, multo grazie
By the way, I am just back from a mindblowing Barclay James Harvest gig, the super enthousiastic crowd (mainly 45+ men) was flooded by the sound of Woolly his M400 Mellotron and treated on most of their classics like Mockingbird, Child Of The Universe, Suicide, She Said and Poor Man's Moody Blues
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 23 2009 at 17:28
I was about to go there as well, but my friend(s) couldn't make it. I was already afraid I would have missed something. Good that you enjoyed it though. |
Posted By: Alberto Muńoz
Date Posted: November 23 2009 at 20:02
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GReat Erik
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: November 24 2009 at 13:18
Good to see you getting some recognition for your hard work Erik.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 24 2009 at 15:54
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Hello Paul, good to see that your thread about my Italian progrock article has been reanimated by more posts in the last two days than the entire previous month!
Thanks Alberto for your compliments
Marcel, here's link with pictures from that Barclay James Harvest gig I recently watched:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/neasden/sets/72157622745669531/ - http://www.flickr.com/photos/neasden/sets/72157622745669531/
 The Mighty Tron (M400 model)
This man is responsible for the great vintage keyboard sound on the excellent
Pandora debut album, I love that emotion:
http://www.artistsandbands.org/ita/uploads/photos/4066.jpg">
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 24 2009 at 17:28
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Great pics, Erik. Too bad I couldn't come myself. And Trons are always a good thing! |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 25 2009 at 11:17
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Marcel, I hope this tour will be captured on DVD, in comparison with the 2006 DVD, BJH played more 'classic tracks' and the atmosphere was great, Woolly acted like a member of the Monty Python team Today I received an e-mail from the management of the promising new Italian band Soulengine (one of the best compositions on the Dante II 4-CD), they will send me a promo package
Il Bacio Delle Medusa send this e-mail:
The new album will focus on the theme of the Crusades, with references to the modern situation...
We are being drafted, and I think that the wonderful ideas and the variety of music will make an album extremely interesting and mature! However I belive that we'll need to work calmly....we'll have to treat every single datalis at the best way! Best wishes Erik, keep in touch, and thanks for all! Eva and BDM! PS: If you want, you can see our videos of our gigs on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Il%20Bacio%20Della%20Medusa&search=Search&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&spell=1 - http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Il%20Bacio%20Della%20Medusa&search=Search&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&spell=1
Ciao
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!Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: November 25 2009 at 17:05
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Erik, Great to hear BDM are working on a new album; I'll look forward to that one.
Just had a look at the BJH pics...excellent and very good quality. Obviously a very close view. I see John Lees has come straight to the gig from his job at the bank.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 25 2009 at 17:19
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Well Paul, fellow BJH fan, this is an Italian progrock thread but ... what an inspired and Mellotron
drenched
BJH gig it was and indeed, John Lees looked like a bank member, I was thinking of mr. Mainwaring from Dad's Army, one of my favorite TV series in the Seventies  By the way Paul, you are right: it was a close look at the BJH gig, the photographer and me (once we met at Pinkpop 1984 for the Marillion performance) were standing in the front row, only a few meters away from the band members.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: November 26 2009 at 03:11
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Welcome Erik , tell more if you want about Soulengine, your new discovery
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 26 2009 at 04:34
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Hello Bogdan, welcome back to the show that never ends, ladies and gentlemen, Italian progrock
About Soulengine, I got this e-mail from the management ( mailto:[email protected] - [email protected] ) :
Hello Erik, I prepared and sent you the promo package, I think you'll receive it within 3 days. Thank you for your interest, hope you'll enjoy what SoulenginE are working on. The promo cd features the
unmastered long version of "Polheim" (the song included in Purgatorio) and a demo version of "Rain Flower", another track from the upcoming full-length. Recording sessions are concluded, and soon it will be time for mix. Let's keep in touch and prog on. Ciao! Giorgio Bertini I wrote this about their music on the 4-CD box Dante's Pulgatorio, see:
http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=15093&reviews_id=769&language=en - http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=15093&reviews_id=769&language=en
Ciao
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: November 26 2009 at 14:54
Ah Dad's Army Erik, brilliant! One of my favourite TV series too. I have every episode on DVD. Now how did they get in an Italian prog thread?
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 26 2009 at 15:12
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Search for the 5 differences
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 26 2009 at 16:12
I like BJH, Dad's Army and Italian prog also. Is there a pattern behind it  ?
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 26 2009 at 16:56
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Barclay James Harvest, Dad's Army, Italian Progrock, the pattern could be : a lot of a's and r's
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 26 2009 at 18:23
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Yes, that must be it
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 11:27
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Well Paul and fellow Italian progrock aficionados, I am looking forward to publish
part 2 of Chapter 4 about the new bands in this thread, especially the last two years
we could enjoy a very prolific Italian progrock scene with floods of interesting new
bands, in the section N-Z of Chapter 4 you will find reviews of:
- Narrow Pass (2006 and 2009)
- Nodo Gordiano
- Nota Bene (2005 and 2007)
- Obscura (with a comment by singer David Cagnata)
- Pandora
- Perif3ria Del Mondo
- Proteo
- Randone
- Cristiano Roversi
- Il Ruscello
- Tapobran
- La Torre Dell Alchimista (2005 and 2007)
- Ubi Maior (2005 and 2009)
- The Watch (2007 and 2008)
- Wicked Minds
Multo grazie for posting and viewing (more than 1500!),
Ciao
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 14:16
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I'll look forward to it Erik.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 30 2009 at 15:02
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Today I received the SoulenginE promo EP (2 tracks), very interesting instrumental
blend of '70s prog and jazzrock, I have written a review and asked the Background
Magazine team to add it to part 2 of Chapter 4 before publishing. By the way, soon
SoulenginE their debut CD Mind Colours will be released.
On Facebook we received this euphoric reaction from Very Down Under:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=540614478 -
The Italian Section is just fan-tas-tic! My heart just aches knowing how much beautiful italian Prog I've been missing out on over the years. Background is to be commended for drawing from the catalogues of past and present artists and albums, and conveying not exactly the complete history, but a worthy springboard to dive into the Italian bliss of progressive rock for those of us new to it, none-the-less. Take a bow, my friends! Paul Watson, Auckland, New Zealand, November 24 at 9:56am
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Posted By: domizia
Date Posted: November 30 2009 at 16:09
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Oh, SoulenginE are great. Yesterday Alex Carpani performed at MEI (Iternational Indies Fair) Faenza, Italy, and his guitarist for the occasion was Ettore Salati from SoulenginE, they played also a track from SoulenginE's future album, among Alex Carpani's compositions, and I was taken aback, literally!
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 15:47
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Multo grazie for your post Domizia, interesting to read and it's a good example that the current Italian progressive rock is very prolific with floods of promising new bands, from Pandora, Il Baccio Delle Medusa to Il Ruscello, Nodo Gordiano, Ubi Maior and ... SoulenginE.
But I also notice lots of other interesting progrock activities all over the world, today I listened to the new Moonrise (Poland), Little Tragedies (Russia), Amarok (Spain) and Gargamel (Norway), I hope you will take time to discover one or more of these bands in order to support the lesser known and unknown new progrock bands
Forty Years Italian Progrock 1969 - 2009 :
Chapter 3: The Years Between 1980 And 2002, see:
http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/ItalianSpecial3.html - http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/ItalianSpecial3.html
Chapter 4 : New Bands (Part 1 A-M), see:
http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/ItalianSpecial4A-M.html - http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/ItalianSpecial4A-M.html
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: December 03 2009 at 13:10
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: December 03 2009 at 15:04
| ^ Erik, quite an eclectic sound with some nice jazzy touches. Not so mad on the vocals though but overall pretty good. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: December 03 2009 at 15:13
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Well Paul, thanks for your comment, I am very curious to their sound, today I got an e-mail from Ma.Ra.Cash Records that they will send me a promo CD of Altare Thotemico their debut CD, I am very pleased with all the reactions from Italian progrock bands and labels. At this moment I am listening to the new Gan Eden album
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: December 06 2009 at 11:27
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Yesterday Matthias from Btf. send me this e-mail:
Nice one Eric!!! Please keep in mind for your "comeback chapter", that in the beginning
of 2010 there will be the reunion of Biglietto per L'Inferno and Raccomandata con ricevuta di ritorno. Best regards,
Matt And today new Italian band The RedZen promised me to send me a promo EP, they are busy with their debut CD.
Info:
http://www.myspace.com/theredzen - http://www.myspace.com/theredzen
http://www.myspace.com/soulengineband - http://www.myspace.com/soulengineband
Ciao.
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 14:07
| Erik, a new Biglietto Per L'inferno album would make me very happy. I wonder if it's a possibility or if it will just be live shows. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: December 12 2009 at 09:19
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Tomorrow Background Magazine will publish part 2 of Chapter 4 (New Bands) featuring
reviews about work of Narrow Pass, Nodo Gordiano, NotaBene, Obscura, Pandora,
Periferia Del Mondo, Proteo, Randone, RanestRane, Cristiano Roversi, SoulenginE,
Tapobran, La Torre Dell' Alchimista, Ubi Maior, The Watch and Wicked Minds.
http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/images/UbiMaior2.jpg">
 Ciao
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: December 12 2009 at 14:16
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That's great news Erik, your excellent work is well on the way to completion. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: December 13 2009 at 15:51
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Sorry but there is delay with the publishing of Chapter 4, part 2.
In the meantime I have this for you to compensate the delay a little bit
: http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=15103&reviews_id=780&language=en - http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=15103&reviews_id=780&language=en
http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=15091&reviews_id=768&language=en - http://www.progwalhalla.nl/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=15091&reviews_id=768&language=en
Ciao
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Posted By: domizia
Date Posted: December 14 2009 at 02:19
For sure I will, Erik, thanks! You know I always try to discover and promote among the listeners (my Camelot Club Prog clients!) those lesser known but very valid prog bands from all over the world, because they really deserve it, since sometimes people are simply not informed enough- otherwise they would love these bands to pieces. I was listening to the current demo of The RedZen a few days ago, they really blow my mind out.  I'll keep reading your great work, you should make a real book out of it, I think! Thanks for posting my Altare Thotemico cover, also  .------------- RPI=> http://www.camelotclubprog.net" rel="nofollow - Camelot Club Prog ...but also> http://www.maracash.com" rel="nofollow - MaRaCash records. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: December 14 2009 at 11:01
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Background Magazine has published:
FORTY YEARS ITALIAN PROGROCK
Chapter Four : New Bands
Part Two : N/Z , see:
http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/ItalianSpecial4N-Z.html - http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/ItalianSpecial4N-Z.html
http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/ -
http://www.backgroundmagazine.nl/images/20050506SimoneRosetti.jpg">
 Hello Domizia, multo grazie for your kind words and about that book ... I am planning to write a book about progrock entitled Lesser Known, Unknown And Overlooked Progrock Bands. But it will take some years before I really start with that because at this moment I want to take more time for drawing (like you I love the surrealists) and playing guitar.
Ciao
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: December 14 2009 at 14:33
Erik, Nodo Gordiano have really captured my interest. One to get hold of in the new year I think.
Congratulations on the latest addition to your RPI special, fascinating reading once again.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: December 14 2009 at 15:04
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Paul, thanks
and ... you are right, Nodo Gordiano is a very special one, new Italian progrock to discover! Today I listened to the new Hostsonaten, it alternates between 24-carat
symphonic rock and avant-garde, pretty varied and you also have to be up to the sound of a cello,
trumpet and bagpipe ... along lush choir-Mellotron and fat Minimoog synthesizer flights
 And I listened to the new Conqueror album, a mini-CD with wonderful, a bit laidback music featuring
warm female vocals and pleasant keyboard work. Now I am waiting for the The RedZen CD and the
Altare Thotemico album, both bands promised to send it to me as promo's, multo grazie
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: December 15 2009 at 07:41
| Erik, about Hostsonaten, i have both the Winterthrough and Autumn Symphony cd's and I was wondering if the Springtides cd is meant to be part of the season cycle or if it's just coincidently titled as one of the seasons. I say this bearing in mind that Springtides was really just a collection of demos and not recorded as a complete work. Any ideas? |