Police against old Lady of 87
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Topic: Police against old Lady of 87
Posted By: markosherrera
Subject: Police against old Lady of 87
Date Posted: August 14 2009 at 18:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xW_-bSxTyI&feature=player_embedded - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xW_-bSxTyI&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xW_-bSxTyI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xW_-bSxTyI
Unnecesary violence against a 87 years old afroamerican Lady with dementia,the lady suffers alzeimer ,perhaps now is dead
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 14 2009 at 18:47
Yeah...what's new?
How many times have we seen a police cop tazing an old woman, or pushing around a mentally retarded guy (yes recent stories I heard) What's f*cking new?
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 14 2009 at 20:39
I can't believe this Coward pr*ck arsehole.
Does anybody know what has happened after this to the cop/sh*t human being or the lady?
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: August 14 2009 at 22:40
I'm no cop, but I'm sure there are better ways to disarm an 80 year old lady, in fact, if the cop could walk at least a couple steps per second, there wouldn't be a need to disarm her. I'm surprised nobody attacked the cop.
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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: August 14 2009 at 22:48
JJLehto wrote:
How many times have we seen a police cop tazing an old woman, or pushing around a mentally retarded guy (yes recent stories I heard)
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What's f*cking new? |
Well, those recent stories, for one.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 14 2009 at 22:53
Yeah I hate old people, I'm thinking maybe we need death panels. Oh wait, I'm 44 now. Well, I'm not totally old. How about we send our euth to asia?
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 14 2009 at 23:20
I just think before handing guns and permits to use them to anybody we should test:
a) their understanding of basic human concepts
b) their intelligence
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 01:48
All cops should be forced to wear a wire while on duty so any excessive force complaints can be proven if someone doesn't happen to have a camera on them. That would stop a lot of this sh*t.
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 01:49
The T wrote:
I just think before handing guns and permits to use them to anybody we should test:
a) their understanding of basic human concepts
b) their intelligence
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I don't think that would work. That's how Jim crow type laws get started.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 01:56
SergiUriah wrote:
f**king coward son a bitch white cop! Hard to believe those things happen...until you watch on youtube. |
Oh, please don't bring race into this. Don't be absurd.
The cop was wrong no matter who was what color, alrighty?

Anyway, the cop should be fired for that, but he won't be. As usual. If you're a cop, you can get away with a helluva lot.
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 04:32
Please let's not get in a discusion about the officer's race and what that means etc etc.
If the thread continues in that direction it will have to be closed temporarily, I have already recieved several flags about this already, so obviously dwelling on the officer's race is offensive to many here.
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Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 07:25
I donīt understand why talking about racism may be reason enough to close this thread. Itīs clear that if the old woman would be a white woman that coward cop never would have never acted like that. If things are said in common sense, I think there must be no problem with that.
If I were a afroamerican person, I would feel insulted if the thread was closed...
We must not close the eyes to a certain kind of reality...
Cheers.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 07:34
SergiUriah wrote:
I donīt understand why talking about racism may be reason enough to close this thread. Itīs clear that if the old woman would be a white woman that coward cop never would have never acted like that. If things are said in common sense, I think there must be no problem with that.
If I were a afroamerican person, I would feel insulted if the thread was closed...
We must not close the eyes to a certain kind of reality...
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I think thats incredibly untrue and stereotypical.
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 07:41
Its a female cop.Saying its a race issue is ridiculous ,but anyone remember G-20 protests http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_F53QZUsqw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_F53QZUsqw he died shortly after.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 07:42
p0mt3 wrote:
SergiUriah wrote:
f**king coward son a bitch white cop! Hard to believe those things happen...until you watch on youtube. |
Oh, please don't bring race into this. Don't be absurd.
The cop was wrong no matter who was what color, alrighty?

Anyway, the cop should be fired for that, but he won't be. As usual. If you're a cop, you can get away with a helluva lot.
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On the one hand you have to have a certain amount of respect for people who are in a profession where people try to kill you just for doing your job, but given there were two officers on the scene, I'm thinking they could have disarmed her by one keeping her distracted from the front with the other approaching her from behind. Race was not really a factor this incident as near as I can tell and I have zero tolerance for racists.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 07:50
Slartibartfast wrote:
p0mt3 wrote:
SergiUriah wrote:
f**king coward son a bitch white cop! Hard to believe those things happen...until you watch on youtube. |
Oh, please don't bring race into this. Don't be absurd.
The cop was wrong no matter who was what color, alrighty?

Anyway, the cop should be fired for that, but he won't be. As usual. If you're a cop, you can get away with a helluva lot.
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On the one hand you have to have a certain amount of respect for people who are in a profession where people try to kill you just for doing your job, but given there were two officers on the scene, I'm thinking they could have disarmed her by one keeping her distracted from the front with the other approaching her from behind. Race was not really a factor this incident as near as I can tell and I have zero tolerance for racists.
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Digusting footage. And a disgusting comment as well. As mentioned above, the cops could have been white, black, asian, hispanic, whatever. Doesn't really matter, but regardless, there are better ways of dealing with the elderly. I hope she took their asses to court.
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 07:53
SergiUriah wrote:
I donīt understand why talking about racism may be reason enough to close this thread. Itīs clear that if the old woman would be a white woman that coward cop never would have never acted like that. If things are said in common sense, I think there must be no problem with that.
If I were a afroamerican person, I would feel insulted if the thread was closed...
We must not close the eyes to a certain kind of reality...
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Look, I know what you are trying to say, I'm an urban American and I have lived much of my life in inner city neighborhoods and I am not the least bit naive about American racism, I have racially mixed grandparents and you can click on my homepage and see my friends and associates. In the past I have helped the non-US admins with decoding terms that have their orgin in KKK speeches.
But plain and simple, PA rules say No Racism, which would include ascribing certain behaviour to one's race.
P.S. The preferred term is African-American, an Afroamerican is an American with a large retro hairstyle, ha ha.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 07:55
I am certain it would have been easy to just walk up to her and take the knife out of her hand. the way she was tottering around she hardly posed a threat at all. and any policeman should have the sense to realize that slamming an old woman down like that could easily seriously and fatally injure her
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 10:52
This thread disgusts me on a number of levels. The fact someone is quick to ascribe the bad actions of these cops to their "white" race shows equally nasty stereotyping and reverse-racism on display, but I can't discuss that because Admin has already made the plea not to talk race and I'll respect that.
What I will say is that most all of police officers in this country do an outstanding job, risking their lives daily to protect the general public from scumbags of all colors. Yet, the media, and cheerleaders of lame threads like this one, will choose to look at the rare instances of abuse to perpetuate their own hatred of the coppers as the norm. Cop abuses exist but are like plane crashes. Thousands of planes take off every day, a few crash, guess where the cameras show up? The cameras are never there to show the millions of moments of police officers compassion and hard work to assure you have a decent quality of life in your neighborhood. These normal daily transactions between officer and citizen are the norm, yet the media and the cop-haters do splendid teamwork making the public think all cops are scum. Congratulations. Your deceptions are profoundly effective thanks to our complicit media and gullible public. You've made the fairly rare seem the norm to a good deal of the public.
The fact is, most people willing to trash the integrity of all officers on the actions of a few, will be damn happy to see them in their own moment of need. Wait until your child has been abducted, wait until you're being mugged by some pussy thugs, wait until your wife has been attacked, your home has been robbed, or your car smashed by a drunk. Wait until your Grandma, black or white, has a fire and see if the first cop on the scene doesn't bust into the burning house to pull her out despite it being safer to wait for the fire dept. See who you call, and chances are you'll be treated professionally by a well meaning officer. But I understand it's much easier to cherry pick a horrible moment of over-reaction/bad judgement and degrade and entire group for it. Lovely.
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Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 11:44
Finnforest wrote:
This thread disgusts me on a number of levels. The fact someone is quick to ascribe the bad actions of these cops to their "white" race shows equally nasty stereotyping and reverse-racism on display, but I can't discuss that because Admin has already made the plea not to talk race and I'll respect that.
What I will say is that most all of police officers in this country do an outstanding job, risking their lives daily to protect the general public from scumbags of all colors. Yet, the media, and cheerleaders of lame threads like this one, will choose to look at the rare instances of abuse to perpetuate their own hatred of the coppers as the norm. Cop abuses exist but are like plane crashes. Thousands of planes take off every day, a few crash, guess where the cameras show up? The cameras are never there to show the millions of moments of police officers compassion and hard work to assure you have a decent quality of life in your neighborhood. These normal daily transactions between officer and citizen are the norm, yet the media and the cop-haters do splendid teamwork making the public think all cops are scum. Congratulations. Your deceptions are profoundly effective thanks to our complicit media and gullible public. You've made the fairly rare seem the norm to a good deal of the public.
The fact is, most people willing to trash the integrity of all officers on the actions of a few, will be damn happy to see them in their own moment of need. Wait until your child has been abducted, wait until you're being mugged by some pussy thugs, wait until your wife has been attacked, your home has been robbed, or your car smashed by a drunk. Wait until your Grandma, black or white, has a fire and see if the first cop on the scene doesn't bust into the burning house to pull her out despite it being safer to wait for the fire dept. See who you call, and chances are you'll be treated professionally by a well meaning officer. But I understand it's much easier to cherry pick a horrible moment of over-reaction/bad judgement and degrade and entire group for it. Lovely.
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(Taking out the racism speech...)
Has anybody talk about the work of the police officers...?
Cops- Heaters?
When a proffesional acts badly like in that video, I think itīs normal judge him just to express refuse...
When a cop acts well and save lifes, and they do everyday, weīll have the same right to talk about it.
Well, and serials on tv and films remind us very well how big they are...
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 17:58
btw again
its a woman cop.I know it hardly makes any difference but when you think of racist assaults (as ridiculous as this assumption is for this video)it does give it a different edge to what we usually expect.
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 18:04
hey, those old ladies can be a dangerous breed.
i refer everyone here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prM9gIkozh4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prM9gIkozh4
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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 18:39
The Doctor wrote:
hey, those old ladies can be a dangerous breed.
i refer everyone here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prM9gIkozh4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prM9gIkozh4 |
Classic!
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 22:46
mrcozdude wrote:
btw again
its a woman cop.I know it hardly makes any difference but when you think of racist assaults (as ridiculous as this assumption is for this video)it does give it a different edge to what we usually expect.
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From the way she was acting after successfully "disarming the assailant" she looks like she regretted what she did, at least to a point. It doesn't change the fact that she threw an old lady on the concrete though. To be fair, the lady technically was armed and potentially dangerous, but my logic and vision tell me that she was in no way a threat. A stupid and irredeemable action that she should regret for the rest of her life. On the other hand, a cop should never come to conclusion that what she did was even remotely necessary.
There was a similar occurrence here in Michigan. A man was shot by a policemen because he reached into his pocket. It wouldn't have happened if the cops weren't doing a drug raid, although I don't know as to whether they found drugs or not.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 16 2009 at 06:31
Finnforest wrote:
pussy thugs
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Whaaaaa??? Sorry I have a dirty mind.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: August 16 2009 at 08:00
That elderly woman shouldn't have been standing so close to them...(sorry I couldn't resist).
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: August 16 2009 at 10:53
Slartibartfast wrote:
Yeah I hate old people, I'm thinking maybe we need death panels. Oh wait, I'm 44 now. Well, I'm not totally old. How about we send our euth to asia?
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Been reading Sarah Palin's facebook page, haven't you?
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 16 2009 at 11:37
You betcha.
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