Salon des musiques progressives du Québec
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Topic: Salon des musiques progressives du Québec
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Subject: Salon des musiques progressives du Québec
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 19:12
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I made a research to see if there was already a thread about prog from Québec, and there wasn't any. I got to admit that I was surprised about this, and I tought: it's time to create one so, here's the place to talk about le rock progressif du Québec!
What are your favourite bands from here? (Mine are definitely Octobre, Maneige, Sloche, Harmonium, Pollen and Morse Code)
What are your favourite albums from these bands?
What do you like about Québec's prog music?
Go on!
 I bet Harmonium's "Si on avait..." will be cited a LOT
 ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 19:24
Love RPQ!  I recently acquired some Conventum, Maneige, and of course Miriodor is a RIO/Avant favorite. However, my absolute favorite right now is Rouge Ciel. Cannot recommend them highly enough. |
Posted By: Kestrel
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 19:27
| I love Harmonium, Maneige and Conventum and I'm always looking for more prog from Quebec. There's something unique to that region that I haven't heard from other countries but I'm not quite sure what it is... |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 19:49
Yeah it should be listed as a sub-genre, here on the archives!
I really HAVE to listen to some Rouge Ciel. For now, I don't know their music a lot, but what I've heard is great! Do you like Pollen? ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Padraic wrote:Posted By: Canprog
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 20:29
Since my music collection is still in its early stages of growth I only own one album from Quebec artists which is Si On Avait... which is amazing I hope to aquire some more Quebecois stuff soon! Thanks for creating this thread this will be a great tool for me to use in order to become familiarized with new bands from La Belle Provence!
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 20:41
I haven't heard of them. Just looked them up, sounds interesting! |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 20:46
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A website to check out is http://www.progquebec.com/ - http://www.progquebec.com/ Lots of favourites of mine from there, like Maneige, Sloche, Miriodor, Contraction, Conventum and others. By the way, Sloche will be reissued on CD later this year by Prog Quebec; here's the announcement: "Today, ProgQuebec signed a licensing agreement with Sony Music Canada to reissue the two albums by Quebec-based 1970s symphonic fusion artists Sloche. This agreement is the culmination of close to four years of communication with various groups within Sony in an effort to make a legal, high-quality reissue of these essential progressive rock albums a reality. Both albums, 1975's "J'un Oeil" and 1976's "Stadaconé", will be released on September 15th 2009 and will be available at the 2009 edition of the FMPM. Originally released on the now defunct label RCA, the masters for these two albums have been located in Sony's archives, and the reissues will be remastered from these tapes. This is ProgQuebec's first licensing agreement with Sony, and follows the 2007 licensed reissues of the Morse Code and early Maneige catalogs from EMI. Sloche is one of the best-loved 1970s groups from Quebec, having created two albums of exceptional quality inspired by symphonic rock, in particular Gentle Giant, and jazz fusion. The line-up that recorded these two albums was virtually a complete turn-over of the original Sloche line-up, driven by a relentless search for superior musicianship by the conservatory-trained keyboardist Rejean Yacola. While their instrumentals can be compared to groups such as Finch or Gentle Giant, the atmospheric vocal passages on the first album also bring to mind other Quebec groups such as Opus 5 or Morse Code. Sloche has been one of the most hotly requested progressive rock reissues from any part of the world for over a decade, and has been our top priority for a while. For years, the only way to get this album was to find it on vinyl, or buy unauthorized knockoff pirate releases. It will be one of ProgQuebec's proudest moments when properly licensed and high quality editions of these CDs are finally available. And after 30 years, the members of Sloche will finally start getting paid for their work again. ProgQuebec also hopes this will be the start of a fruitful relationship with Sony Music Canada, who have the rights to a number of excellent projects that have been largely forgotten by the mainstream markets but are beloved to progressive fans. We intend to pursue further collaborations with Sony Music Canada going forward. Thank you to everyone who has waited patiently and held off on buying bootleg versions while we pursued this through the proper channels. It has taken a long time to get to this point and we are very excited about it. Regards, Sean ------------- http://www.toib.net/ - http://www.toib.net/ " ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 20:48
I knew it (about "Si on avait..."!
I suggest you, to continue with Harmonium, "L'heptade". It sounds more like Symphonic Prog, but if you liked "Si on avait...", you'll probably like it too.
You should also get Octobre's "Survivance", Sloche's "J'un oeil" or "Stadaconé" and Pollen's "Pollen".
Yeah it is definitely a website to check out! (thanks Assaf, I forgot that)
 I'm excited to get those Sloche's reissues! ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Kestrel
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 20:48
| Has there even been an attempt at getting Quebec its own country label? Perhaps it isn't necessary, but it would be useful in finding any other... RPQ (I love that!) bands. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 20:49
Quebec is too busy trying to get their own country.  |
Posted By: Kestrel
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 20:54
Ha, true enough. I would just like attention to be paid to Quebecois prog, much like RPI. This also reminds me of Erik Neuteboom's special about Prog Andaluz, another region specific genre (if one can call it a genre). It helps emphasize that prog was an international movement which I find to be one of prog's most endearing qualities. Edit: And you can add the Belgian chamber scene as well... |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 20:57
Yeah, one day we will!In fact, Prog Québec IS some kind of "country label"
They reissue some of the classiques du rock progressif Québecois.
http://www.progquebec.com/ - http://www.progquebec.com ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 21:00
That's a great list, and covers most of what I'd speak of most highly. I was recommended Dionne-Bregent a couple of years ago, and it became my favourite from Quebec, and one of my favourites over all. ../album.asp?id=13633"> 
 4.00 | 1 ratings ../album.asp?id=13633 - Dionne - Brégent Course I really like the usual suspects such as Sloche and Opus 5 too. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 21:07
Yeah, I forgot this one too. Et le troisième jour is particularly great too. Brégent has also a good solo album called Poussière des regrets.I guess you should also try ExCubus. When it was created, in 1974, it was called Incubus, they recorded 4 four songs this year and split-up right after.
Recently, they got back together and recorded four new (old, their original out-takes) songs.
Notice: It is a little bit heavier ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 21:09
Oh, don't get me started  |
Posted By: Kestrel
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 21:14
Checked out the samples on ProgQuebec and thank you for another wonderful recommendation today! Haha. |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 21:28
Great album there and I also second Opus 5! ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 21:34
Opus 5 is another band that I have to listen soon!
 It is apparently excellent, from what I heard. I hope it will be. ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 21:47
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I need to check out Miriodor if they're a RIO/Avant favorite, I do love me some RIO/Avant after all. Edit: Sloche sounds pretty interesting as well. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 21:54
Yes, it is! But it's not RIO/Avant It's Jazz-Rock. You might like it.------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 21:55
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Well I like Jazz-Rock at least as much as RIO, possibly more depending on the band. So I'd say it's a safe bet I'll enjoy it.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 22:01
| ExCubus |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 22:02
Then I guess, as you said, that it's a fair choice.
Yeah I mentionned it earlier. Great band. ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 22:08
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Opus-5 and Maneige are also on my list to check out, unfortunately for me the list is growing nearly exponentially and the amount of money I have to spend on music isn't...ah well, a little patience will go a long way.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 22:10
| The only one I know here is Harmonium, and I love it. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 13 2009 at 10:30
Hate to add to the list, but I need to plug Rouge Ciel again - just absolutely fantastic. |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 13 2009 at 13:23
Begin with Maneige, it is fantastic! (Greatest album, in my opinion: Les porches)------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 14 2009 at 23:24
Then you'll have to check some other bands... They're all really good.
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There's also a Progressive Rock festival in Montréal, QC; it's called FMPM (Festival des musiques progressives de Montréal or Montréal's Progressive Music Festival). This year's setlist is Miriodor, Rouge Ciel, Le Orme, Excubus, Magenta, Three Friends (Sold Out) and Saga (Sold Out)
I'll try to go, for sure!  ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 00:24
On the contrary, the more items on the list the more gems I have to look forward to in the future, gives me more incentive to make sure I do well in school, get a good job, etc.  Any specific album suggestions to start with the band, or should I just dive in randomly?------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 11:55
Don't get ME started !!!
  yoou guys know how opposed to genres exploiting origins or nationality, and I still don't agree on RPI, although could come to terms if one day the multi-genre tagging becomes a reality
I probably added half if not 2/3 of the Quebecois he database (lately Agape, Demi-Heure and boule de Son)
and I had to convince mailto:M@X - M@X about Maneige's addition , Proglucky about Conventum and Connivence ......because the Quebecois don't even realize themselves how great it was during the 70's
So you can imagine how I "hate"prog from LBP
But "LBP prog" should never be a genre or subgenre, because it's simply not musically sensible. I would say that a good half the band played foklk rock, then some more played jazz-rock, some blues-derived prog, other electronic etc....
it's just viable.... ditto from BegianProg Chamber
thisd from a Belgo-Quebecois
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 11:59
They only have two releases right now - their s/t debut is my favorite of the two, with a very wide variety of style, a very eclectic album. The second is also fantastic and is a bit darker, a bit more aggressive, and definitely more "RIO". |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 16:22
I'm very excited; I'll see them (almost sure) in september, the same day I'll see Le Orme! It be totally amazing! ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Canprog
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 16:30
Thanks for the Suggestions.
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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 15 2009 at 16:41
It's a pleasure! Hope you'll find bands that you'll like. ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: MichelNeurophile
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 09:06
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I would say most of the '70s quebecois artists were adding progressive shades to their music : Beau Dommage had a full album side of one progressive song. Michel Lefrançois. Robert Charlebois. Paul Baillargeon. Gino Vannelli. Les Seguin. La Nouvelle Frontiere. Le Match. Offenbach. Ville Emard Blues Band. June Wallack. Diane Dufresne. Jim Corcoran & Bertrand Gosselin. Claude Dubois, Jacques Michel, Gilles Valiquette, Gilles Vigneault, Guy Trépanier, Jean-Pierre Ferland, Claude Léveillée on some albums, even Felix Leclerc. Franck Dervieux Raoul Duguay should be in Prog Archives. Some of his albums were completely prog. He was also a member of L'Infonie. Etc. |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 11:13
I can see you're from Québec!
Yeah, I agree with what you said. I'm now trying to add June Wallack to this site. Offenbach, I think it's already here (it must!). Robert Charlebois has some prog elements but he had different eras where he made different music.Aren't you the one who posted Octobre's L'oiseau Rouge and Charlebois' Québec Love or Tout écartillé (I don't remember) on YouTube? And I'm not sure if you knew but Raoûl Duguay also participated to Maneige's Les porche.Bienvenue sur le site! ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 14:04
Harmonium, Maneige, Miriodor  All great. Only one album each by the first two, but both incredible. Have 2 Miriodor album, saw them live at NF '03 preshow. Great, great band. |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 19:59
I will miss Miriodor's gig at the Gésu, Montréal because it was too much expensive; this month, I already paid 95$ to see Excubus, Rouge Ciel, DFA and Le Orme on a saturday. Miriodor is playing on the next day and it costs 35, if I remember well.
How were they live? ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 21:19
They were fantastic. They were the first of three bands, and the next two (Izz and some fusion band who's name I can't recall) seemed a real let down in comparison (and Izz is a great band). They are Avante/RIO, but very melodic. Would love to see them again, but I'm far from Quebec myself  |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 21:24
You mean Miriodor or Izz when you say you'd like to see them again? ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: MichelNeurophile
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 21:41
Yes I'm the one, for Octobre and Maneige's videos. Good luck about June Wallack, and also Offenbach because they aren't in Prog Archives ! Michel. |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 22:08
Offenbach? Not here!?
It's a crime I'll have to suggest it. I don't think I'll have problems with Wallack.Gab ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 24 2009 at 04:50
Jude Wallack.... are you ready to write her bio??? I will open the artiste entry page with your bio of her andthen you can add her album(s)
Offenbach is trickier .... we already had a hard time convincing with Octobre, soooooo you can imagine that Offenbach will be tougher, despite their first two albums..... We'll ask for prog related soopn
Beau Dommage, we've done the demand for prog-related, but let"s face it, outside Bois Filion, there isn't much prog ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: DRACCA
Date Posted: August 24 2009 at 07:57
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Everything by Harmonium. Conventum too. This may sound pretentious but I have often enjoyed playing Harmonium during a snow blizzard with a view from a window. ------------- INNER TEMPLE |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 24 2009 at 10:53
Yeah, for Beau Dommage, I agree. For Offenbach, I understand.For June Wallack: I'm now working on Medeski, Martin & Wood's (Jazz-Rock/Fusion) bio, but soon as I'm finished with this one, I'll start Wallack's. Is it good? ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 25 2009 at 04:51
Fine with me
BTW, Ken is working on Garolou's inclusion ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 25 2009 at 14:10
Great. Garolou's another fantastic band. I got to admit that I'm surprised though. Was it tough to convince people of their progginess? ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 25 2009 at 14:43
| I may have missed it, but why no Talisma??? |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 25 2009 at 14:51
Only because I didn't heard of them before now.
What do they sound like? ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: August 25 2009 at 19:13
Heh, I have seen Izz since then, great band. But I meant Miriodor. I'd love to see them again. |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 25 2009 at 19:17
O.k. I wish you'll see them again one of these days. ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 25 2009 at 20:08
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Garolou is perhaps mpre folk prog than prog folk, but our team was pretty unanimous on including them. Now if I could just find some decent information! I grew up in Quebec in the 70s, an Anglophone Montrealer listening to CHOM-FM as the DJs switched from French to English and back in the same sentence. I also enjoyed CKOI. I was more partial to the folkier groups like Garolou, Barde, Reve du Diable, but also enjoyed Seguin, Harmonium, Beau Dommage. I had more trouble with Offenbach and Aut' Chose, just not my thing. Later I grew to appreciate what I heard from Maneige. Of the current Quebecois groups I enjoy Talisma, Kaos Moon, Daniel Gauthier (who should be here). I also enjoy Orealis, who recorded in the 90s. Ken |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 25 2009 at 20:22
Okay. I'll have to check Barde and Rêve du diable (thanks for those), I don't know them by now. Offenbach is great, in my opinion
I don't know what music was playing on CKOI then, but what I know is that now, they're playing f...... bad music.
 ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: August 25 2009 at 20:56
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re: Garolou (first known as Lougarou) - I had the good fortune to pick up about 15 RPQ LPs at Spin-It in the last two years. Seems a Universite de Moncton professor has gone through his collection and decided to get rid of some. Anyway ... I've got Breche, Le Match, l'Engoulevent ... so i wonder why Garolou isn't in as well. Others that have yet to be mentioned here - Leitmotiv ... if you lwonder what a marriage of Maneige & Genesis would sound like , this is it. Not much synth or mellotron, with the piano as the main instrument. You can download their album free, and pay for it after if you like it. Don't forget Etcetera - RPQ's mellow version of Gentle Giant. Not here yet - Eclipse and Caramel Fou. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: MichelNeurophile
Date Posted: August 25 2009 at 20:57
There is a biography of Garolou at this site : http://www.qim.com/artistes/biographie.asp?artistid=343 Michel. |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 25 2009 at 21:27
thank you much! |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 25 2009 at 21:49
Here's their page on ProgQuébec: http://www.progquebec.com/garolou.html - http://www.progquebec.com/garolou.html
It includes a bio and their discography. ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 25 2009 at 21:53
| I can see there's a lot to explore here - I'll be revisiting this thread often! merci a tout! |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 26 2009 at 12:05
You'll be welcome. Enjoy!
Sean, I've think about it; I re-listened some Beau Dommage. They HAVE something to do here. At least, their album "Où est passée la noce?" is Prog (or Prog-Related). ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 26 2009 at 19:10
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Another artist that should REALLY be added, I think, is Roger Rodier. He only made one album, an obscure gem. Rare are the people who know him. He's doing some kind of Psychedelic/Folk Prog music.
That should give you an idea 'bout how much he made great music.
SUPPORT HIS ADDITION http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60778&PN=1 - HERE  ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 28 2009 at 06:44
if you read what I said, the BD demand for Prog'related has been made. Bois Filion is the 20 minutes "epic" of Ou Est Passé La Noce
As for Rodier, I will relisten, but from memory, he's not that prog....
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Posted By: monkey in orbit
Date Posted: August 29 2009 at 08:26
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no mention of l'Infonie? they definately deserve more attention |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 29 2009 at 12:05
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^ Yes, they do! ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: August 29 2009 at 12:57
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I can' remember if I've responded to this but I'm from Montréal and we used to have a great music scene here. Octobre was my favourite and if Pierre Flynn would have given in to CBS Records and sang in English they could have gone far even though prog was on the wane back when the y recorded their first album for CBS ( L' autoroute Des Reves the other one was the excellent Cants Dans La Nuit live album. I think they've only played in two places outside of Québec, the provinces Of New Bruswick and Ontario. They might have performed in France but I can't recall for sure. When I was doing research for their bio here it was difficult to find much about them in English. Almost no mention in any of the Canadian Rock history books. So I had to dig up newspaper clippings ( interviews articles reviews etc. ) from French language newspapers that I found on micro film in a couple of libraries. One of Québecs unsung music legends. I'd definitetey like to see a reunion but Pierre Flynn has said that the last one in July '89 was definitely the last. He currently lives in Hull and still performs and records but nothing that sounds like pog. ------------- |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 29 2009 at 13:16
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^ You didn't respond before now. Except Octobre, whant bands did you like? ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: August 29 2009 at 13:50
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Pierre wasn,t really a hard line separatist but he was a separatist nonetheless who had and still has a passion for his French Canadian roots ( the name of the band was actually derived from the 1970 October Crises in 1970 ) . While it may have not been artistic suicide it was commercial suicide especially after signing on with a heavy hitting American record label such as CBS. ( He actually has a few solo songs in English, actually ) . Many Québec artists who started singing in French came to realisation that if they were to make it commercially on a world scale ( Céline Dion is a glaring example, even Corbeau sang some songs in Anglais ) If they didn,t then they would make it onl ylocally and if they were lucky maybe France. Many European bands sang n English and theie native tongues, Look at Omega, Hungarian, Enlish and German. Don't get me wrong Flynn is a very articulate a intelligent man, just maybe a little too proud when he was younger. As for Québec bands and musicians from Québec here is a pattial list of the ones that come to mind both past and present : Voivod, Frank Marino, Jimmy James, Guy, Nadon ( just saw him and spoke with hime at the jazzfest this year ) , Walter Rossi, Oscar Peterson, Corbeau, April Wine, Never could get into Beau Dommage, Maniege or Harmonium ( who were based in California for a whie ). ------------- |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: August 30 2009 at 14:00
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Something funny here, you're the first to cite Voivod. I think some of their albums are good, but they do have some average ones too. ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: monkey in orbit
Date Posted: September 01 2009 at 02:25
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Octobre had awesome moments, Survivance is excellent and deserves a reissue, I also like l'Autoroute des Rêves which is often overlooked, it has really nice melodies and great arrangements. Chants dans la Nuit also gives us a testimony of their talent outside the studio, I was surprised when i listened to this the first time i wasnt expecting as great a performance, and with some of their more prog oriented material too even though this was in 1978 and they were moving towards the end with a more conventional sounding "Clandestins" BTW they did play in France in 1979 but never got distribution there. On another note i'd like to mention Offenbach, maybe not their career but to highlight the quebecprog release of "Saint-Chrone-de-Néant" the live performance at the Oratoire st-Joseph where the band performed a mass. Offenbach definately showing us their prog side in the musical arrangement here.. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 01 2009 at 12:33
Unfortunately I think the only Octobre disc that`s ever going to be available is the Anthology `72 - `89. Fortunately it`s got all the best material. I think only Autoroute des reves and the live Chants dans la nuit album were the only two Octobre albums released on CD. ------------- |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: September 01 2009 at 16:27
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Re : Octobre ... I think the second records shops (what few remain) would have a copy or two of their albums. I'm sure I've seen L' Autoroute des Reves & the live one. As for Offenbach - the hard part for those of us here who know the band is that the early albums, the ones that seem to serve as the basis for their candidacy ,are almost impossible to get. The owner of Room 201, a now closed record shop, had Bulldozer & Soap Opera. And I did see the Mass LP once years ago. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: September 02 2009 at 18:35
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^ Let's hope ProgQuébec will reissue Octobre's albums soon. I think I have have something IMPORTANT to mention.
Some solo albums by Québecois artists are listed in the bands that they were in before. Roger Waters' solo albums, aren't in Pink Floyd. Those artists deserve a full page for them, citing them in their band's page is an error, it's not the same, and they're not making the same music. For exemple, Jacques Blais and Yves Laferrière in Contraction or Charles Kaczynski.
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Addition of Pierre Nadeau, the singer of Ville Émard Blues Band, please. He released a great symphonic album, Extra-ordinaire.
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60978 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60978 ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 03 2009 at 08:30
Their first three Offenbach albums are enough to warrant a prog-related, but the rule is that we must enter full discographies
I doubt it, because the double disc compilation covers most of the early albums (I mean only one or two tracks missing) and L'Autoroutes des Rêves has received a Cd reissue already.
While I can't say for sure, but I think Octobre is low priority for ProgQuebec; since potential sales are dimished by those that already have what's available
these solo albums' inclusion are my doing
 and usually concerns one-shots solo career and have in all cases Contraction members in them. In sorts I am doing ProgQuebec a favor by including these albums that are not really all that prog. I guess wecould separate Kaczynski, now that he has a second album out. >> I had done the same for Langlois of Maneige, but had to separate them since he's started releasing new albums.
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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: September 03 2009 at 19:14
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Okay, now that I know the reason, it seems correct the way it is. What about Pierre Nadeau? Ivan said it wasn't o.k. for Symphonic, but maybe suggested Related. ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: monkey in orbit
Date Posted: September 03 2009 at 20:57
all the early LP's are now available through ProgQuébec except for Tabarnac the double album soundtrack they made for the documentary of the same name which was filmed in France
based on that rule then lots of the bands in the prog archives shouldnt have their discographies added, i dont know of many bands that solely did prog.. even almighty Yes. But for sure for Offenbach its more about their first lps, I guess they were as prog as Deep Purple were at the time. |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 10:30
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got Tabarnac years ago on LP. Put it on CD, and traded it at Spin-It. It disappeared pretty quick there. But from the comments made by that guy at Room 201 , I don't think I'd bother buying those first albums. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: monkey in orbit
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 14:09
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I have Bulldozer and Saint-Chrône-de-Néant in cd, they're excellent. In my opinion the most original work Offenbach did was the first 4 LP's, essentialy the period Hamel was there. |
Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 17:40
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I've had albums by Harmonium (all 3 studio), Maneige (first 3 studio), Pollen, Tom Rivest, Opus 5 (first), Et Cetera and Sloche (first) for a while now, as well as several Miriodor albums. I've always really liked them, especially Pollen/Rivest, Opus 5, and Sloche. When Tsevir posted the RPQ poll, I began to realize just how deep the Quebec scene runs. Wow! Inspired by the poll, I bought the compilation L'Ultime Rock Progressif du Quebec and love what I'm hearing! I'm shortly going to get more of these wonderful bands.
I feel like a complete RPQ novice, much like I did when I first discovered the vast prog treasure trove in Italy. So I'm excited to jump into this, and I appreciate all the comments and recommendations thus far. I think I'll tackle the Prog Quebec titles first (Morse Code, Conventum, Contraction, Kaczynski, Sloche), along with Rouge Ciel. I just ordered a used copy of the October compilation (all my usual resources say they are having a hard time getting that). Any other thoughts for a RPQ newbie?  Merci!------------- "I have seen the broken sky turn blue." http://gnosis2000.net/ratertodd.shtml" rel="nofollow - My Gnosis Ratings |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 18:03
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Try Péloquin-Sauvageau, I've discovered it recently. It's Psychedelic.
http://quebecprog.blogspot.com/2009/05/pelgeau72.html - http://quebecprog.blogspot.com/2009/05/pelgeau72.html (a link to their album)
Connivence is good too (you told me you haven,t heard them)
http://quebecprog.blogspot.com/2009/05/connive77.html - http://quebecprog.blogspot.com/2009/05/connive77.html (their self-titled album)
Garolou's Garolou
http://quebecprog.blogspot.com/2009/05/garolou78.html - http://quebecprog.blogspot.com/2009/05/garolou78.html
This should be a good start. Leave me your comments! ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 18:09
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I will--thanks! I'm listening right now to Miriodor's incredible Avanti! album. Brilliant. ------------- "I have seen the broken sky turn blue." http://gnosis2000.net/ratertodd.shtml" rel="nofollow - My Gnosis Ratings |
Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 18:16
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By the way, I think I do understand the signature, Tsevir. ------------- "I have seen the broken sky turn blue." http://gnosis2000.net/ratertodd.shtml" rel="nofollow - My Gnosis Ratings |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 19:15
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Avanti! is definitely great, so are other Miriodor albums. It looks like everybody can understand it, sadly ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 22:13
er, I don't think that is a legitimate site , i.e. one that artists get monies from ... ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 05 2009 at 04:32
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BTW Gabriel
any relation with Jacques Tom Rivest???? ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: September 05 2009 at 08:25
No, sadly
Probably not  But it was only to show him (Todd) these bands. I'm sure if he likes them, he'll buy their albums.------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: September 05 2009 at 11:27
Yeah, I'm not a believer in illegal acquisition of music. Having looked at that blog, there are song samples but I don't see a link to any rapidshare files or somesuch. There are some wonderful samples of many many bands, though, so thank you so much for the great resource! I only wish that many more of these were reissued, like Ungava. Man, is that great stuff, whale bones and all. Maybe some day . . .
Thanks Mot Retep! Oh, I mean Tsevir Leirbag! ------------- "I have seen the broken sky turn blue." http://gnosis2000.net/ratertodd.shtml" rel="nofollow - My Gnosis Ratings |
Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: September 05 2009 at 11:44
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I've listened to the samples of Garolou--great stuff! I see that compilations of their first four studio albums are available (Tableaux D'Heir vol 1 and 2). I think I'll be picking those up soon! ------------- "I have seen the broken sky turn blue." http://gnosis2000.net/ratertodd.shtml" rel="nofollow - My Gnosis Ratings |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: September 06 2009 at 21:29
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June Wallack is now on the archives everybody! ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 07 2009 at 16:00
it's the only thing available in Cd foprmat, but these 2on1 albums are missing every time at least one track from each original album..... which is really weird since they clock in at less than 70 mins..... ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: September 07 2009 at 16:53
THAT is a sad thing. I definitely prefer having both (complete) albums, separately. But as Sean said, it contains every songs from their first and second albums except maybe two or three songs, which is not that bad. ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: September 07 2009 at 19:14
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I listened to the song missing from the s/t album, "Alouette," and frankly that one doesn't seem too big a loss!
But I do much prefer the entire album, just for integrity if nothing else. But, like with Octobre, I'll have to take what I can get! ------------- "I have seen the broken sky turn blue." http://gnosis2000.net/ratertodd.shtml" rel="nofollow - My Gnosis Ratings |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: September 07 2009 at 20:47
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^ Of course
Yesterday, I bought Conventum's Le bureau central des utopies, and I like it even more than I tought. The re-edition sounds very good, the bonus tracks are AMAZING. This is a great album. Is there any Conventum on the Rock Progressif du Québec's compilation? ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: September 07 2009 at 22:31
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Yes, it has "Ateliers I & IV." ------------- "I have seen the broken sky turn blue." http://gnosis2000.net/ratertodd.shtml" rel="nofollow - My Gnosis Ratings |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 11 2009 at 07:51
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Beau Dommage has been accepted for Prog-Related.
Does anyone want to write up a bio (in their own words) and be credited for it???
If so, submit it to me via PM, and I'll open the page up so the albums can be added (also looking for voluntary members for that task...) ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: September 11 2009 at 22:58
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^ I WILL
As soon as I'm done with Rodier's one. Good? ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 06:02
BTW Offenbach will be next
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: September 19 2009 at 19:32
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Roger Rodier now on the Archives in Prog Folk section
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4855 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4855 ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Gog
Date Posted: September 20 2009 at 18:12
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Do you know about Unexpect? Sure it's quite different from what you've been talking about, but it's still pretty interesting. Lyrics are in english for the most part, though...
I'd say Unexpect perform Extreme Progressive Avant-Garde Tech Metal with elements of circus music. Check the album In A Flesh Aquarium if you're interested (and open-minded).
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 02 2009 at 18:06
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I just popsted a review of the live album just released by Miriodor
Unlike the other Miriodor, released on Cuneiform..... this one is on Progquebec.
Official release date: mid-Oct ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: October 03 2009 at 00:23
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^ How did you get it if its official release date is on mid-october? Miriodor is a great band really. Any news about Péloquin-Sauvageau, did you listen to them?
If you still need the link, let me know. ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 06 2009 at 10:00
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Beau Dommage entry page open
Offenbach I'mstill trying
Peloqsuin Sauvageau >>> good for inclusion. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |