looking to get some recording software
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Topic: looking to get some recording software
Posted By: yesman1972
Subject: looking to get some recording software
Date Posted: August 04 2009 at 23:09
I am looking for some decent recording software. Can anyone give me any suggestions. I welcome any suggestions on midi controllers and stuff too.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 01:20
http://www.reaper.fm/ - http://www.reaper.fm/
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Posted By: siriusbliss
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 01:42
Samplitude Pro or Music Studio... Samplitude.com
Greg
------------- guitars 40 years. Progressive Fusion, Classical, Electronic, Ambient. MIDI guitar, MIDI Chapman Stick. Production studio near the beach.
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Posted By: cobb2
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 04:36
I cannot recommend this unit highly enough as a synth module (it also becomes your computer sound card)
http://www.roland.com/products/en/SonicCell/ - http://www.roland.com/products/en/SonicCell/
Take your choice on music suite- I use Sonar, but I can't say whether it is better or worse than any other.
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Posted By: mono
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 07:23
I suggest you get a DAW (digital audio workstation) like Cubase, Logic or Ableton Live and a midi controller (Roland, Korg, CME...) with USB, and there you go! If the cited DAWs are too expensive, you can get Magix Music Studio which was my first DAW. It's very efficient and easy to use, and it comes with a MIDI studio... I don't know how well they work together because I never used both for the same project. In most other DAW, MIDI sequencing, recording and VSTi are in the same interface as the rest of the audio....
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 07:49
^ Magix Music Studio is very good for the price, I use it quite a lot - however I've never used its Midi Studio for anything other than notation because I don't use MIDI.
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Posted By: cobb2
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 09:36
^That's because you are a keyboard player- us guitarists aren't. If you know how to notate they are great for adding keys, without having keyboard skills.
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Posted By: mono
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 03:09
MIDI is essential for all musicians. Unless you are very lucky and have many many instruments, it's very difficult to make quality (prog) music today without using MIDI... Unless you have a Workstation keyboard from which you take all your sounds. This is why I would recommend having a solid DAW from the start. They're not necessarly more difficult to get into than persay Magix Music Studio, but they offer a complete environment in which you can use MIDI and VSTi which are inevitable today.
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https://soundcloud.com/m0n0-film Film music and production projects
https://soundcloud.com/fadisaliba (almost) everything else
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 03:35
^ I believe the latest version of Magix studio ( http://www.magix.com/uk/samplitude-music-studio/detail/ - Magix Samplitude Music Studio 15 ) and supports VSTi, MIDI, ASIO, ReWire and DirtectX. I'm still using version 7 so I'm way out of date. Reaper (link above) is essentially the same price as Studio 15 if you take out the home use licence.
For multi-instrument tracking I use Reason, but I'd not necessarily recommend it in this instance as you'd still need some DAW software to record and mix your live instruments and vocals.
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Posted By: siriusbliss
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 12:24
Samplitude Music Studio has every major DAW feature for low price, including score, etc., and integrates well with Samplitude Pro, which has all the high-end features of other DAWs on the market (like ProTools, Cubase, etc.).
I also occasionally use Ableton Live, but I find it too cumbersome for my workflow.
Greg
------------- guitars 40 years. Progressive Fusion, Classical, Electronic, Ambient. MIDI guitar, MIDI Chapman Stick. Production studio near the beach.
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Posted By: mono
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 02:14
I use Cubase4 + Reason 4 reWire + AU/VST, I find it to be a very handy solution...
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https://soundcloud.com/m0n0-film Film music and production projects
https://soundcloud.com/fadisaliba (almost) everything else
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: August 22 2009 at 15:05
Dean wrote:
^ Magix Music Studio is very good for the price, I use it quite a lot - however I've never used its Midi Studio for anything other than notation because I don't use MIDI. |
i've wrestled a bit with this, it records ok on audio (not MIDI) but having problems recording and monitoring seperate tracks without tracks 2,3 and 4 picking up everything from the previous tracks, track 1 is clean but the next one picks up stuff on track 2 from track 1 , track 3 picks up stuff from track 2 and so on... using mixer for inputs and USB keyboard with Reason 3, any suggestions?
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 22 2009 at 21:58
mystic fred wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ Magix Music Studio is very good for the price, I use it quite a lot - however I've never used its Midi Studio for anything other than notation because I don't use MIDI. |
i've wrestled a bit with this, it records ok on audio (not MIDI) but having problems recording and monitoring seperate tracks without tracks 2,3 and 4 picking up everything from the previous tracks, track 1 is clean but the next one picks up stuff on track 2 from track 1 , track 3 picks up stuff from track 2 and so on... using mixer for inputs and USB keyboard with Reason 3, any suggestions?
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Not sure what's happening there Steve - I've got version 7 and haven't experienced anything like this.
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Posted By: siriusbliss
Date Posted: August 22 2009 at 23:25
What is your hardware interface, and what is your configuration?
In Music Studio, make sure you have different inputs set up when recording on multiple tracks. Turn monitoring on on the previously recorded tracks as well.
Music Studio has had audio and MIDI, including score, VST handling, etc. since V10 or so, and it's now heading towards V16.
Samplitude Pro V11 has been released in Germany, and English release is due probably towards the end of August/Early September.
Greg
------------- guitars 40 years. Progressive Fusion, Classical, Electronic, Ambient. MIDI guitar, MIDI Chapman Stick. Production studio near the beach.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 06:51
In Music Studio, make sure you have different inputs set up when recording on multiple tracks. Turn monitoring on on the previously recorded tracks as well.
...different inputs? am using the same soundcard input on all tracks, fed in from the 6-channel mixer.
if i set a track on record it picks up all the stuff on the preceding tracks, unless i turn the volume down or mute them, but with no monitoring am working "blind"..
using Samplitude music studio 15 trial demo, Mackie DFX-6 mixer interface, with pc in/out from soundcard Audiophile 2496 connected to Mackie CD/TAPE in/out. Audio (slider) inputs plus USB keyboard used with Reason, some great sounds there!
the first track i.e. drums records and plays back ok, but the second track picks up the drums from the previous track - unless i mute the drums - but then i've got no live monitoring....
my problem is can this be live monitored without interfering with the track that is recording ?
basically the first tack records clean, but the second track down duplicates it exactly, the four completed tracks played together sound like they were recorded in a bathroom .
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Posted By: siriusbliss
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 09:49
Then it seems you're recording the audio playback looped back through your mixer.! WHen this happens, then yes, you'll end up with lots of phase errors and crosstalk EQ anomalies.
You have to find a way to isolate the playback monitoring from what your recording going into the computer.
Greg
------------- guitars 40 years. Progressive Fusion, Classical, Electronic, Ambient. MIDI guitar, MIDI Chapman Stick. Production studio near the beach.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 10:46
Posted By: siriusbliss
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 11:37
I record into the mixer/computer on certain channels, and listen out of audio mains while making sure the channels being recorded are not the same as what's being monitored.
You'll have to check your Mackie manual to see how to isolate what's coming in vs. what's going out.
Greg
------------- guitars 40 years. Progressive Fusion, Classical, Electronic, Ambient. MIDI guitar, MIDI Chapman Stick. Production studio near the beach.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 13:04
there are six channels though they all share the same exit ports...
each channel can be muted but then they can't be monitored
i tried moving the sound card out leads to a seperate amp but it sounded really gravelly, the set up i am using atm sounds the best but with the no-monitoring problem.
..maybe i should be looking at a proper recording interface..?
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Posted By: siriusbliss
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 17:44
Yes, if you had a recording interface, like something from RME or M-Audio, etc., then you can still use your mixer for recording into MS via the interface, and then monitoring back through the interface without having to go back through your mixer.
Greg
------------- guitars 40 years. Progressive Fusion, Classical, Electronic, Ambient. MIDI guitar, MIDI Chapman Stick. Production studio near the beach.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: September 01 2009 at 10:07
well the suggested recording interface (M-Audio Pre USB) is in, the audio tracks sound great (though a little low volume without noise), found out how to rewire Reason into Samplitude Studio 15 so another lost weekend ahead..
oh well, onward and upward!
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: September 02 2009 at 14:58
SONAR from Cakewalk takes a bit of beating methinks (Although it is a tad expensive) MIDI and audio integrate seamlessly and the bus routing has been improved beyond recognition in the latest version 8. e.g. you only need one instance of say, a reverb effect and you can apply as much or as little of the effect to individual tracks. Principle advantage of this method is that it takes the strain off yer processor thus allowing yer mixes to contain LOTS of soft synths and effects etc. If you do overload the processor there is an option to 'freeze' any soft synth tracks you have by bouncing same down to audio thus freeing up the CPU for additional tracks.
I have used most of the MIDI/audio sequencers out there at one time and can honestly say SONAR is probably the most 'musician friendly' one to date. After sales support from the company is pretty damn nifty and there is a very active forum of users on the website that are extremely helpful (and show you how to do things that are sometimes not documented in the manual)
Disclaimer: I have never worked for, dated anyone from, played tennis with or performed babysitting duties for any employees of the Cakewalk company.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: September 08 2009 at 13:57
the trouble with these programs is that they all try to be all things to all men - it would be nice to find a stripped down audio-only-no-special-effects program on a "musician's" budget
i settled for Magix Music Studio 2005 Deluxe , it does all i want and more, though i have Reason 3 set up for keyboards on my laptop (using NNX-T with Hammond Organ and Mello-T expansions) , i just plugged it into my new MAudio Mobile Pre interface or with drums and/or guitar and i was away...
shimple!
the new Reason "Record" looks very good but £199.00
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