"Time Flies" (New PT single)
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Topic: "Time Flies" (New PT single)
Posted By: JLocke
Subject: "Time Flies" (New PT single)
Date Posted: August 04 2009 at 20:04
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So sorry if this has been brought up before, but Porcupine Tree's new song "Time Flies" from their upcoming album "The Incident" has been released: http://porcupinetree.bandcamp.com/track/time-flies-edit This sounds scarily similar to ''Dogs'' by pink Floyd. Even some of the lyrics are the the same.  Erm . . . discuss!!! |
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Posted By: TalmLikeABalm
Date Posted: August 04 2009 at 20:22
| Thanks for posting this!! |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 04 2009 at 20:24
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The chorus sounds more like the outro to "Sheep" to me, but it's a very good songs and only sounds slightly familiar. The lyrics in particular seem to have shed some teenage angst.
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: August 04 2009 at 20:27
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Hmmm ... not a bad track. Lyrics remind me of all the angst portrayed in FOABP. This album could be a direct follow-up to FOABP. ------------- 
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: August 04 2009 at 20:44
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The lyrics are... ugh... The song is OK, it's nice to hear PT go back to what they do best (though this isn't close to their best) I hope that the rest of the album will be much better. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Neil-Kobrin/244687105562746" rel="nofollow - SUPPORT MY FATHER AND BECOME A FAN Jacob Kobrin Illustration |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: August 04 2009 at 20:54
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You can hear a 7 minute album sampler too at their myspace. Sorry if this was covered elsewhere. http://www.myspace.com/porcupinetree - http://www.myspace.com/porcupinetree |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: August 04 2009 at 21:27
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That was pretty bad. I mean the drum work was nice, but I can't say I liked anything about it. The intro is particularly just boring and with Wilson's vocals doing nothing to draw me in. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: August 04 2009 at 21:38
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I like how it's the longest track on the album and it's called "Time Flies". I actually might consider getting The Incident, despite my dissapointment with FOABP.------------- 
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: August 04 2009 at 22:31
| I like this a lot! I liked FOABP, but I wasn't it's biggest fan, this reminds me of Trains meets Stupid Dream - should be an interesting album |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 04 2009 at 22:59
Yeah, the chorus is from 'Sheep', and the verses are from 'Dogs'. 'And after a while . . . ' 'You've got to . . . ' to me seem like clear rip-offs lyrically, as well as musically. PT is turning into DT |
stonebeard wrote:Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: August 04 2009 at 23:34
Yeah I agree. It's a really cool sound. Really well produced too. -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 04 2009 at 23:55
If you're just now accusing PT of shamelessly copying Pink Floyd, that bandwagon seemed to pass about 15 years ago.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 00:18
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I like what I'm hearing so far of the song, and I can see the comparison to Animals, especially right at the intro for me.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 01:01
Oh, I'm sorry, am I late for something? I didn't realize I couldn't just have an honest opinion of a musical piece without being accuse of being a bandwagon jumper. As to what I'm accusing; absolutely. I think it's obvious that this is an inspiration-less song ripped straight off of Waters and Gilmours' backs. Wilson hasn't done something this blatant since 'Sky Moves Sideways'. I'm a huge Porcupine Tree fan, and I care about the band's originality. I'm not just trying to slam them without cause. I will still by the album and all; I just hope the rest of the tracks are much more unique. |
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 01:06
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I remember when I first heard the medley back in the original album thread, Time Flies sounded very Animals era Floyd. This isn't really a bad thing by any means, but it it obviously the overriding influence in the track. Oh yeah, and PT have been considered Floyd clones before. (UTD, TSMS, Signify etc) 
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 01:11
Again, why do people think this is news to me? I'm very well aware of the Floyd comparisons, I've been here a while. I'm just pointing out the obvious in this particular track's case. Porcupine Tree hasn't sounded like Pink Floyd in years, and for them to go back to that place again seems kind of regressive. That's all I'm pointing out. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 01:17
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This is great - I love it!
Thankyou SO MUCH for posting! -Joel ------------- 
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 01:26
I know this is not news to you, I was simply stating the point. I agree that the comparison is obvious, it's pretty hard not to notice. I'm not so sure that it is a regression for PT to sound like PF, however I would have thought that if PT were to release another blatant TSMS, then sure. But I still beleive that it is too early to tell just from the single. |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 01:31
No, I'm still hopeful. Remember how we were both freaking out at the demo?  So I'm definately still looking forward to this. I even like this song fine, but I just got sad when I heard the utter lack of individuality.  I'm sure the rest of the album will be better, though. I haven't known PT to sound like that for an entire album's length. And let's not forget the main suite, which I'm sure will be full of surprises.  Sorry if I came off as a bit grouchy. It's past my bed time |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 01:32
you're very welcome.  |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 01:34
I... Sort of added it to my "Countdown to The Incident" post, but I'll edit it and thank you for posting about it first! Thanks again -Joel -------------
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 01:41
As a massive PT fan(boy) myself, I know what you mean, but I just feel that there are worse things that Steven Wilson could have done that take one of the best prog albums of all time (< that comment now protected by anti-flame suit) and base it for the single for his next album. Anyway, it's still a charming song. |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 01:43
I've listened to it a few times more and I am liking it better than I did initially. And yes, "Animals" is one of the greatest Prog albums of all time in my book as well. p.s. Besides, I'm sure I have and will continue to 'rip-off' a few of my favorite artists as well in my day. I'm not all that concerned about it. |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 02:30
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OK.......( no more no less ) Hard to judge from those small cuts. Time Flies is not bad.I still prefer the Vaya Con Dios version though  ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: cobb2
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 04:45
| Just uses a similar strumming pattern on the accoustic- not similar chords or progression, though |
Posted By: Johnny_Tsunami
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 06:52
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I quite like this! Can see what everyone's saying with the 'Animals' comparison, but I like the song nonetheless! I don't think it would sound out of place on Lightbulb Sun either if I may be so bold! ------------- I likes musics |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 06:57
Really?
I think it would've done amazingly on IN ABSENTIA, but then again, that is one of the few nearly perfect albums. Great stuff - Listening again now
-Joel -------------
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 07:40
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I am a huge PT fan,but this song did nothing for me.Hope the rest of the album is more enjoyable to me than this. -------------  |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 09:40
I don't think The Sky Moves Sideways is copying anything from Floyd whatsoever, nor do I think so for Time Flies. It's incidental that things sound somewhat similar. (Time Flies sounds nothing like Dogs to me by the way, neither in the lyrics or music, and only somewhat reminds me of Sheep but the similarity is nothing but incidental). I've always been irritated by comparisons to Floyd, mainly because I think The Sky Moves Sideways and Up the Downstair have all the spacey elements of classic Floyd, but do everything better to my ears. Nothing Pink Floyd ever did as an album pleases me as much as The Sky Moves Sideways. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 09:58
Feel the same Jody ------------- |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 14:01
Well, if you yourself can't hear the similarities much, then of course I see where you're coming from. I just wanted to make sure that you were aware that I wasn't simply comparing them to Floyd because everybody else does it; I truly do believe this is a Dogs/Sheep clone. In all actuality, there was only one other instance when this closeness between the two bands was as obvious, and that was "The Sky Moves Sideways". Even the track layout mimics 'Wish You Were Here'. But on the whole, I have never considered PT a PF 'clone' before, so this is actually a first for me. I don't WANT them to be a clone of anybody else, but it's just how I honestly feel about this track. In the end, though, it's not that big of a deal. I'm still going to buy the album and enjoy it, but I do hope the other tracks on the album sound more original. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 14:27
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I regard Animals as being right up there as Floyd's greatest moments. I also love Wilson & PT, but the comparisons to Animals are so obvious they barely need repeating by me. Having said that, listening to it now, I'm really enjoying it. I LOVE reinterpretations of classics by great bands I will definitely get the new LP - I would have done anyway. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: AtlantisAgony
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 15:04
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Just to point out the similarities between this and 'Dogs': http://home.no/johan-af/ptpf.mp3 The guitar strumming patterns are not exactly alike, but very similar. Also note the synth thingy in the background. ------------- proggity prog prog |
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 15:14
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I dont care for it much, I preferred 'time flies' when it was on the album sampler. ;)
We'll see, it's probably alot better in the context of the 55 minute track.
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Posted By: tintedweed
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 16:15
I dont think one song can excite or disappoint me. I need the whole package...  .
PT has PF influence, no question but its not clone, and neither a rip-off. At the same time this song is a bit un PT without much twists. But without the whole CD its not a fair judgement yet. I am sure surprises are waiting...
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 17:34
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Remember everyone, Time Flies is listed on the LP at over 10 minutes (If I'm correct) and the single is the 5 minute radio edit. Thus, there is 5 minutes of the song we don't hear... the section not appropriate for the single perhaps? Anyway, I'll judge the full album when I get it. |
Posted By: DASistGrantTeeL
Date Posted: August 05 2009 at 18:06
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my favorite porcupine tree songs are the ones that sound like Pink floyd
------------- "This dream is all I’ve ever wanted, Cared for, I only hope things haven’t changed when I awake…" |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 01:51
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I doubt I'll ever grow to like it. As soon as I heard the "Dogs" guitar and the cheesey lyrics based on song titles - an idea blatantly taken from Barclay James Harvest's "Titles" on Time Honoured Ghosts", and the vocals which sound like BJH's, I didn't want to hear any more.
I don't know why, I just felt really annoyed to hear a song with other people's ideas so starkly presented - like that awful Madonna song that starts with the ABBA sample, or Vanilla Ice using the Queen/Bowie sample.
I'll give the album a listen, as it is so keenly anticipated - but I've always been disappointed with PTs material generally. What I've heard is too poppy and not at all Prog. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: mono
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 07:08
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to me, this says nothing about the album. If not that not all tracks are masterpieces...
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 08:38
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P0mt3 I don't know why you're freaking out. You do realize that PT has been trying to sound like PF since they started. I mean come on. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Lionheart
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 09:25
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The new single from the new Porcupine Tree album? My opinion: Meh. Sounds a lot like "Stars Die". But, I think all Porcupine Tree records are worth checking out. On the first impression, it sounds like Mr. Wilson knocked this one off in his sleep.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 14:38
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Hyperlinks are not difficult! Yet you seem never to do them! Is that Steve singing? WTF happened to his voice? And does anybody else think the chorus sounds like exactly TMV? Otherwise, it's pretty boring.
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Posted By: IGNEO1991
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 15:56
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 18:06
It's the repetition that gets to me, I guess that's why it worked so well in the album preview.
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Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 18:56
| Why is everyone over reacting ?! This is just a 5 minute clip from a 11 minute song. It will probably sound so much better once you hear the track in full. And everyone should shut up about saying it sounds to much like the floyd. What prog band today does not take some influence from the classic 70's bands. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 20:12
There's a difference between being influenced by Pink Floyd and being the poor man's Pink Floyd. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 22:16
Actually, PT's fanbase, being much smaller than that of PF, and composed mostly of people like us who can afford a computer, is richer than that of PF, even though because of their age probably their fans already have better jobs... it's really a death match. Maybe PF is the rich man's PT, or PT the middle-class man's PF, or maybe there's socialism in their music after all. ------------- 
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 22:22
Oh T, I love it when you miss the point. <3 ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 22:27
Exactly. JROCHA, with all respect . . . you should cool down a bit. If you disagree with those of us who think the song is PF carbon copy, go ahead and disagree, but saying things like, "Everyone should shut up" is very unbecoming of you, my good man. I have never complained about an artist being influenced by another artist, but when they mimic an already existing song almost exactly, it bothers me. It bothers me because I know Steve Wilson can do better than this, and it also bothers me because I was looking forward to this record before hearing this track, and now based on what I hear, it seems to be quite unoriginal. I am a Porcupine Tree fan. One of the biggest fans, in my opinion. I'm not just cutting down a band I didn't like in the first place; I'm fretting over a band I love taking the easy road and not composing from scratch. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but I'm just being honest, and I would never tell you to "shut up" for simply having opinion that differs from mine. |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 06 2009 at 22:49
Well, they haven't succeeded until now, my friend. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 00:30
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Take a look at the song overall...it's nothing like anything Pink Floyd ever did. Porcupine Tree stopped even sounding like a (better) Pink Floyd after The Sky Moves Sideways.
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Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 00:33
| Yet another case of drawing far-reaching conclusions from insufficient material, in my opinion. All we can tell from this piece of music is what we think about this piece of music. And as for it being a carbon copy of anything, I wouldn't want to be using your photocopier. I respect the 'sounds-like' opinion, but it's not a copy. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 00:37
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One song, one word:
Superb ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 00:38
| Both of you must not be hearing the same song that I am, then. Do you honestly think this song WASN'T inspired by the 'Animals' songs? |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 00:40
| Sorry, did I say I didn't think it was inspired by 'Animals'? What I said was that it is not a carbon copy. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 00:42
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I honestly do not hear anything remotely " Dogs" like if anything, " Sheep"- the guitar riff at the end. But it's OK, comparisons and similarities are cool. It's not plagiarism just a great song IMO. ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 00:46
So you are willing to admit that those songs did in fact inspire this track? See, if the inspiration is indeed that obvious, to me, that's a bad thing. I've heard Pink Floyd influences in Porcupine Tree's music before, but never this obvious or 'in-your-face', and yes, that saddens me. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 00:51
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^ Why don't you judge the whole album in it's entirety when you have the chance or...............not play it. But give it a chance I reckon ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 00:53
| ^ I have every intention of buying this album. I even enjoy this song. But to say it is anything but a carbon copy of a past song is (in my opinion) lying to oneself. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 01:24
If a riff in a song sounds slightly similar (and it is nothing more than slightly if anything...the tempo, groove, time signature, and rhythm in Dogs is entirely different to the riff in Time Flies, which is why I didn't make the connection...you have to reach pretty far to find it). But there is a similar tempo and closer strumming to the chorus of Time Flies to that of Sheep, and I noticed that pretty early on listening to it. I see no connection in the lyrics to Dogs, nor in the vocal melody. Overall, I suppose it could be subliminally inspired by Sheep, but I think the two songs are wildly different. You could say that by 90% of all pop music now, though. They don't sound similar enough to taint the song. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 01:36
Thank you for being honest. At least I know you don't hear the similarities at all, so it makes more sense why you would fight me on this. However, the similarities are still quite obvious. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 01:39
Oh yeah, I agree. About the similarity. In "Sheep." ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 01:43
Yeah, I think everybody hears 'Sheep' if they don't hear anything else. But like I say, I'm still excited about this song and whole album despite my initial reaction. |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 02:11
I don't know what inspired this track. I can hear similarities between this song and some of the basic riffs in 'Animals' but that might be because they were pointed out before I listened to the song. Whether PT were 'inspired' or not by PF, my point is that I do not buy the 'carbon-copy' argument. |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 03:23
Well, good thing I wasn't 'selling' it, then. It's just an opinion; doesn't have to be yours, and if I gave the impression that I was trying to force my opinions on others here, I do apologize. I do not ask anybody to 'buy' anything I say. All I ask is that they listen. |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 03:34
| I listened and have no problem with your opinion. We differ, that's all :) |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 03:41
And hopefully we both love Porcupine Tree? |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 03:46
| You only have to look at my reviews to work that out! |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 04:51
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Vocally, It sounds more like the band's own "Stars Die". |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 06:18
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So I listened to half of the song, and I must admit I'm seriously disappointed. I dont know if it was the boring guitar, or if I was just put off the the ridiculously corny lyrics... "I was born in '67 the year of Seargeant pepper..." Ugh kill me. ------------- 
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Posted By: IGNEO1991
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 08:48
wht?? listen to the 'sky moves sideways'... if that doesnt sound like pink floyd to you then listen again
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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 12:47
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I find the single somewhat dissapointing. It really does sound like PF's Dogs, which I don't think is a bad thing, as I am a huge Floyd fan. I do think that the song lacks power though. I find it kind of uninteresting at some times. This might be caused because I had some very high expectations on the single after hearing the medley of the whole album. ------------- 
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Posted By: g0rd0nb0mbay
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 13:43
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Im refusing to listen to any of this album until i own the physical copy so it will all come as new to me. Threads like this make my challenge very difficult!
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 15:10
As I stated already, Sky Moves Sideways is the only other time PT has sounded blatantly like PF, but even then, it was only because Wilson was adopting a similar playing style to Gilmour, and that was where the similarities ended. With this track, the chords are almost exactly the same, with only a few tweaks here and there to give the song some sense of identity. It therefore is the first time PT have actually succeeded in sounding exactly lie Pink Floyd. My opinion. I really wish people would overview what I type before bringing up stuff I've already addressed. It saves me from repeating myself, after all. |
Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 16:43
My fault for over reacting earlier , i just think the album will sound much better altogether than just some small 5 minute clip on the internet.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: August 07 2009 at 19:03
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So I'm the only one who thinks it sounds more like TMV than PF? Ah well, I can bear the burden of truth alone. ;-) ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: -Radioswim-
Date Posted: August 08 2009 at 10:27
What? "and after a while" and "you've got to"? are your examples of 'copy cat' lyrics????! are you a fool man? As if Pink Floyd pioneerd those sentance fragments... *laugh* I started eating bananas 'and after a while' i got a stomach ache... 'You've got to' be a fool. Oh man i just copied Pink Floyd everyone... ------------- 
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Posted By: AtlantisAgony
Date Posted: August 08 2009 at 11:05
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I think perhaps that he meant the way this lines are fitted in to the music, how they are sung, etc...
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 08 2009 at 11:23
I guess I can agree with that. The overall sound of the song is completely detached from Pink Floyd's style from any era. I wouldn't say it sounds like TMV, but I suppose it's closer than Floyd. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: -Radioswim-
Date Posted: August 08 2009 at 20:54
Fitted into the music? how they are sung? Nothing changes the fact that they are sentance fragments. If they fit into the sentance, they fit. Nothing can be said to warrant 'copy cat' lyrics from those sentance fragments. Unless they are in the same context, and in the same structure as said name song. I'm honestly sick of accusations of plajurism or simliarization of lyrics/melodies. Steve Wilson is damn original artist, and i don't think a borrowing of a sentance fragment or two, doesn't warrant an accusation. Have a wonderful night fellas. -------------
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: August 09 2009 at 21:13
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 11 2009 at 00:13
That's very funny. Truly. The lyrics on their own are not enough evidence obviously, but again, as I already stated earlier (I seem to be repeating that sentence a lot lately.  ), the lyrics a long with the chords are clearly both from the Animals record. I was making a very astute observation, that's all. If that makes me 'foolish' in your eyes, well frankly that doesn't bother me one bit.Just because you yourself can't grasp what I'm talking about doesn't make my opinion any less relevant or accurate than your own, and to be honest, I'm getting quite fed up with Steve Wilson worshipers taking such offense at my statements. You react with hostility and name-calling as if what I said was negative. I said nothing of the sort. I never meant my observations to be perceived as criticism. I was merely observing that this song takes many cues from a Pink Floyd piece. How exactly is that 'bad'? I swear, I'm beginning to think PT fans are just as bad as Twilight readers when it comes to their tolerance for others' viewpoints. Now, had I maliciously attacked Wilson and his band by calling them a bunch of inspireless t**sers or something of the like, I could see where your name calling and ranting would be justified, but because I say the combination of music and lyrics are ripping off another song (which by the way is a great song!), you see fit to resort to this type of behavior? Maybe you think by me saying PT 'ripped-off' Pink Floyd, that I am in fact calling the four piece a literal 'rip-off'. But let me assure you; I have nothing but love for Porcupine Tree and their music, and I have just as much of a right to criticize it (positively or negatively) as you do. Would you not agree?
. . . and that is exactly the case with this track. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 11 2009 at 00:15
Yeah, even I agree about that. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: August 11 2009 at 00:20
Actually, I suspect that some on this thread - including me - just don't agree with you. We understand you, you've made yourself perfectly clear on a number of occasions, but we don't agree. I'm looking forward to a healthy exchange of opinions once the album comes out :) |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 11 2009 at 00:23
You honestly believe that Radioswim was merely saying that he 'just doesn't agree with me'? Calling a person a fool for not sharing their viewpoint on something as subjective as music is seems much more like an attempt to start a fight than a simple disagreement. |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: August 11 2009 at 01:39
Note that I said 'some'. |
Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: August 11 2009 at 01:57
And now you two are semi-fighting over over wheher or not you were fighting... p.s. Pyramid. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Neil-Kobrin/244687105562746" rel="nofollow - SUPPORT MY FATHER AND BECOME A FAN Jacob Kobrin Illustration |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 11 2009 at 01:59
lmao.  |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: August 11 2009 at 03:52
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Busted!
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