Metropolis pt.2 lyrics
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Topic: Metropolis pt.2 lyrics
Posted By: MorgothSunshine
Subject: Metropolis pt.2 lyrics
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:10
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Why so many people says that DT lyrics are bad, i think in metropolis pt.2 they did a great job. ------------- For every truth even the contrary is true... 
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Yes, the lyrics are simple but so good for the theatrical concept story...Replies:
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:16
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I think DT's lyrics are excellent myself. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: JMCecil
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:29
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why? ' 'carry me to the shoreline, bury me in the sand, walk me acrossed the water... 'once the stone you're crawling under is lifted off your shoulder'.......nuff said. Anyone who puts that on a record on purpose should be shot on site. Don't make me whip out Take Away My Pain lyrics. Those are cruel and unusual punishment. |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:39
I like that song |
JMCecil wrote:Posted By: JMCecil
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:54
I like lots of songs where the lyrics could be written by a 3rd grader. The question was, "why do people hate on DT lyrics" |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:57
But I sing along to it and everything  .
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Posted By: JMCecil
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:59
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hehehehe |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 13:01
Yawn.. what has that got to do with Metropolis pt. 2? |
Posted By: JMCecil
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 13:10
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Yawn.. what has that got to do with Metropolis pt. 2? [/QUOTE] Sorry, the question was broader than that. He said he thought the lyrics in pt. 2 were pretty good. Then went on to ask why people made fun of their lyrics. I actually think the pt 2 lyrics are bretty bargain bin myself but I think DT lyrics ruin 99% of their music. When I first heard Images and Words when it came out I almost fell off the sofa laughing. Fortunately there are enough great musical moments that you can block out the high school prose contest. I can't say the same for most of what followed. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 13:16
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God tour hard to pleasa Cecil, did you really fall of your sofa? Or is that poetic license? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: JMCecil
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 13:21
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Bad poetic license, I was busy looking in the book of rhymes for something that worked with sofa. |
Posted By: JMCecil
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 13:24
| And, I'm not that hard to please really. But if someone asks a question that suggests that anyone who answer is going to give a negative reply, that's what they should expect. I think DT has some great musical ideas, but the lyrics are cheezy as all get out. The amount of cliche in them is unbelievable. |
Posted By: arkitek
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 16:05
| DT lyrics are AMAZING! |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:18
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Exactly, except on some songs on ToT, maybe Portnoy could swear a bit less. |
Posted By: Fibonacci's Se
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:26
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ok im giong to have to back up JMCecil,...Dream Theater lyrics,
although arent that bad(ok mabey they are,) contain no meaning, its
spelled out 1..2..3 no thouhgt involved, in my opinion to be great
lyrically they words have to provok thought, carry meaning - in that
sense DT lyrics are not very good
------------- cajole the promethean king while his pastiche panjandrum is caught within soleism, genuflect, avoid malversation |
Posted By: JMCecil
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:38
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hmmm...your name and the series in the same quote. Coincidence or Conspiracy? |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:40
Okay. Well I have to agree with you: some of DT lyrics are horrendous. But they're not the only one; just look at Yes - most of the time their lyrics make no sense. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:43
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That's because you dont speak colloquial English! They make perfect sense to anybody from Lancashire! ------------- 
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Posted By: JMCecil
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:43
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Hey I don't disagree with that at all. Especially the later Yes. In fact its almost the same random sampling of blah blah blah. The earlier Yes, although occassionaly goofey, was based on spiritualism and had roots in the chanting and rhythms of other cultures. There are no roots for the fluff that DT writes. I'm not defending other bands bad lyrics at all. I was just answering the question. It wasn't meant to insult DT fans.
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 20:21
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Nicholas: Where did we come from? Why are we here? Where do we go when we die? What lies beyond And what lay before? Is anything certain in life? They say, "Life is too short," "The here and the now" And "You're only given one shot" But could there be more, Have I lived before, Or could this be all that we've got? If I die tomorrow I'd be allright Because I believe That after we're gone The spirit carries on I used to be frightened of dying I used to think death was the end But that was before I'm not scared anymore I know that my soul will transcend I may never find all the answers I may never understand why I may never prove What I know to be true But I know that I still have to try If I die tomorrow I'd be allright Because I believe That after we're gone The spirit carries on Victoria: "Move on, be brave Don't weep at my grave Because I am no longer here But please never let Your memory of me disappear" Nicholas: Safe in the light that surrounds me Free of the fear and the pain My questioning mind Has helped me to find The meaning in my life again Victoria's real I finally feel At peace with the girl in my dreams And now that I'm here It's perfectly clear I found out what all of this means If I die tomorrow I'd be allright Because I believe That after we're gone The spirit carries on WTF? No meaning? These are some of my favourite lyrics. This is some powerful stuff. Once again this all comes down to "It's Dream Theater... so it's crap". |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 22:26
| I personally really like Dream Theater- they are one of my favourite bands. But for the most part, I do not enjoy their lyrics. I find them bland, uninspired and downright lame sometimes. I'd rather try to figure out what Ian or Jon Anderson is saying (and I gave up on that a long time ago). |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 22:38
I only own Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance and I am totally fine with their lyrics on that lp. Good album.
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Posted By: Geee
Date Posted: May 07 2005 at 04:43
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If that's crap wtf did you waste your precious time typing it! You have nothing better to do than write crap! (Crap as in according to you!) You must be crap yourself then dude! ------------- "Just as a bell that has been rung cannot be "unrung", the annoying problem with the Truth is that, once you learn it, you can not "unlearn" it." |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: May 07 2005 at 06:07
| WTF are you on about Geee? Dream Theater are my favourite band, and I posted that (Copy and pasted duh!)... to show how powerful and meaninful Dream Theater lyrics can be. |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: May 07 2005 at 11:23
I starts 1,1,2 actually |
Posted By: JMCecil
Date Posted: May 07 2005 at 11:31
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It depends on the context. If we are talking linear numbering you can't have 1,1. If you are talking the actual series then yes. Also, I didn't say it was the start of the series |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: May 07 2005 at 12:17
| Bah, foiled again! |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 08 2005 at 02:48
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DT's lyrics are hit and miss, for every song with good lyrics, you are almost guaranteed a song with bad ones. I for one like most of their lyrics, except for When Dream and Day Unite, that album doesn't have really great lyrics. They really did improve in quality over the years, though. ------------- 
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Posted By: Oceanzep
Date Posted: May 10 2005 at 22:11
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Learning To Live lyrics are AWSOME Nearly All TOT lyrics are awsome, John Myung is the actuall Niel PEART (LET THE BASHING BEGING!) well, not counting that Niel writes A LOT, and Myung, well doesn't. The problem is that we don't get enought John Myung lyrics THROUGH NATURES INFLEXABLE GRACE, I'M LEARNING TO LIVE tell me that that's not awsome! Never the less the best lyricsts ever is ROGER WATERS ------------- iF I HAD SOMETHING INTERESTING TO SAY I WOULD SAY IT... I HATE THE BEATLES |
Posted By: Geee
Date Posted: May 11 2005 at 00:57
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I got it wrong myself then! Apologies my friend. It seems like we are ones of the few that like DT in this forum. Once again apologies! Cheers ------------- "Just as a bell that has been rung cannot be "unrung", the annoying problem with the Truth is that, once you learn it, you can not "unlearn" it." |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 11 2005 at 10:18
Hey, I'm a DT fan too...! With refernce to their lyrics, I think we can safely say that they are well above average, whatever you think of their musical style... if 'Solitary Shell' from 6 Degrees isn't a vivid description of autism, and 'Losing Time' a vivid description of sexual abuse, I don't know what is... much more relevant and thought provoking than dungeons & dragons!! ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: McBrown
Date Posted: May 12 2005 at 21:47
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I love Dream Theater. Lots of their lyrics dont make sense, and some are downright cheesey...but c'mon...break it down. DREAM THEATER dreams never make sense. and they are just a medium of dreams from the unconsious to the consious. And look at the lyrics to "War Inside My Head/The Test That Stumped Them All" just awesome. ------------- "...And the lord said: Let there be metal" |
Posted By: Geee
Date Posted: May 24 2005 at 06:54
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I am not agreeing here, but let me for a moment here that DT lyrics are crap - Can you say the same for Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance - I mean that album is awsome. The lyrics in that album tackle everyday problems which thankfully not all people face. But for those who face these problems (myself included - Solitary Shell tackles a condition close to my family personally) this album can sometime show some hope. Thanks ------------- "Just as a bell that has been rung cannot be "unrung", the annoying problem with the Truth is that, once you learn it, you can not "unlearn" it." |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: May 25 2005 at 04:48
No problem. |
Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: May 25 2005 at 14:19
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I don't go too deep into the meaning of the lyrics , moreso how the voice and the structure of the sounds of the words fit in with the other instruments. There is a word for this but I can't think of it at the moment. And James LaBrie's voice is just superb. |
Posted By: McBrown
Date Posted: May 25 2005 at 22:45
Hehe...I wouldnt go that far...but John Myung is quite brilliant... Trial of Tears... Okay, it may be that good lyrically...but its a damn good song. And Metropolis Pt. 2's lyrics are indeed powerful and awe-inspiring. I love them, no...I heart them. ------------- "...And the lord said: Let there be metal" |
Posted By: undefinability
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 00:38
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Their lyrics are fine.
For me, anyway. ------------- "Don't listen to me." |
Posted By: ferentix
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 07:37
I'm still trying to work out what "The killing Hand"s lyrics are all about... Its something about war and rememberance which is definitely relevant and meaningful- but then it seems that someone looks back to the past and somehow changes it? I still can't quite understand what the hell most of the lyrics are about  . ------------- I don't even exist! 
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