Michael Jackson 1958 - 2009
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Topic: Michael Jackson 1958 - 2009
Posted By: Tony R
Subject: Michael Jackson 1958 - 2009
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 16:53
He has apparently suffered a cardiac arrest.
Pop star Michael Jackson has been taken to a Los Angeles medical centre, US media say. Local broadcaster KABC has said the 50-year-old singer was taken by ambulance to the UCLA Medical Center. The Los Angeles Times has reported he was not breathing when fire department paramedics arrived at his home. The
paramedics performed CPR and took him to the medical centre, the
newspaper says. Officials would not confirm if the CPR was successful. No further details were available. The star was due to begin a series of comeback concerts with an appearance at London's O2 arena on 13 July. He has a history of health problems and has not completed a concert tour in 12 years. Michael Jackson's home is off Sunset Boulevard in Bel Air.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:02
yes ive heard it i dont no yet wats happend, but the last news reporded him possibly dead
RIP king of Pop
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:05
not a good day for American pop stars
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:07
It seems he's dead - or so does the website of my favourite Italian newspaper say....
RIP Jacko... Just a couple of years older than me. Far too early to go.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:08
that's a shame.. .freak or not.... the man knew how to make great music.
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:12
A quick look at various news sites have the same blurb about him being hospitalized. Haven't seen anything about his death yet. Not even on wikipedia where someone is always quick to post that type of thing, true or not.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:14
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:14
Just a heart attack as yet.
Ed McMahon died a couple days ago, then Farrah Fawcett today...it's just a sh*tty week I guess.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:15
tmz.com says he's dead
but, but. never believe what the media says
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Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:17
horrible news. rip dude
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Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:22
That's what the big media here says, plain dead. I'm speechless :X
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:25
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31552029?gt1=43001 - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31552029?gt1=43001
Wow. Horrible news.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:32
Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:34
All over the news. Terrible.
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:40
Now, also in Japan, the shocking accident has been reported by lots of media. What happened?!
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:44
From what I could gather from various local Los Angeles news providers I googled, he had a cardiac arrest, arrived at the hospital in a deep coma and his life was beyond saving.
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Posted By: Captain Capricorn
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:44
MJ is officially dead.
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Posted By: burritounit
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:44
sad news indeed...
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:48
I've never been sure how to feel about MJ because it's not clear from where I stand whether he was just a weird, lonely guy who got screwed by the jackass parents of the boys he befriended and his insane childhood, or if he was an actual pedophile. Either way, he had a pretty miserable life, so it's still sad. Maybe now he has found peace.
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:49
SO SAD...REALLY??? I CAN'T BELIEVE...
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:55
Looks like it's the day of the passing of the not very old celebs today - Farah Fawcett first, then Michael - and latest on the rumour mill is that Jeff Goldblum died after an on set accident in New Zealand.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:56
I can't actually believe this. That's it, I'm putting on Thriller. His body may be dead but his soul is alive and f**king kicking in his music. RIP dude.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:02
Bad day for celebrities.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:05
I'm much more interested in this Jeff Goldblum rumour, to be honest.
It's still sad though, that he's died. I'm not a fan of his music or him but as HP said, it's sad that he seemed to lead a sad and lonely life.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:07
I'm not exactly the BIGGEST fan of his music, but you gotta appreciate his contribution to the modern pop scene. He practically created it.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:08
Erm, but I don't like the modern pop scene...
I digress though.
I'll leave this thread for the mourners.
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:10
Looks like the Goldblum thing may be a fake one *phew" Tracked the source of that news item, and ended up here: http://fakeawish.com/
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:10
James wrote:
I'm much more interested in this Jeff Goldblum rumour, to be honest.
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:11
Windhawk wrote:
Looks like the Goldblum thing may be a fake one *phew" Tracked the source of that news item, and ended up here: http://fakeawish.com/
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Good good.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:12
Windhawk wrote:
Looks like the Goldblum thing may be a fake one *phew" Tracked the source of that news item, and ended up here: http://fakeawish.com/
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thanks Olav... you saved me from a break-down and Raff from a Buckaroo Banzai memorial viewing tonight
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Posted By: Captain Capricorn
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:13
I'm a huge fan ...it may sound funny, but his music is what got me into music in the first place ...Bad was my first tape
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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:14
This news is spread to Japan where I live.
Is this a true story?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:15
CNN still have not confirmed it.
But if it true, a pop legend has died today.
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:20
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8119993.stm - BBC has confirmed it. Nothing to doubt anymore.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:22
Windhawk wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8119993.stm - BBC has confirmed it. Nothing to doubt anymore.
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BBC confirmed it about an hour ago fiollowing on from LA Times and AP story. Doesn't prove anything.
CNN still haven't confirmed it.
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:22
Windhawk wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8119993.stm - BBC has confirmed it. Nothing to doubt anymore.
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So did CNN...
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/25/michael.jackson/index.html - http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/25/michael.jackson/index.html
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:24
Tuzvihar wrote:
Windhawk wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8119993.stm - BBC has confirmed it. Nothing to doubt anymore.
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So did CNN...
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/25/michael.jackson/index.html - http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/25/michael.jackson/index.html
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No they haven't.I'm watching it right now
Edit.
In fact this is from the link you just posted..
- Entertainer Michael Jackson has died after being taken to a hospital on Thursday after suffering cardiac arrest, according to multiple reports including the Los Angeles Times and the Associated Press. CNN has not confirmed his death.
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Posted By: theteaclub_dan
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:25
It's on the yahoo.com homepage.
I think he's gone.
RIP Michael.
I mean this with no disrespect, but it's almost a relief. The man's life had become SO tragic in recent years...
Yeah, this sucks.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:31
Ok CNN has now confirmed it. They spoke to LA Coroner.
Sad news.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:32
LA Coroner has confirmed it.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:33
Tony R wrote:
LA Coroner has confirmed it.
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Snap!
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:38
Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:40
^I presume you have actual proof of that statement?
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:40
manofmystery wrote:
Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now |
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:42
Henry Plainview wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now |
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being. |
Do you have children?
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:46
People, do you really think it is the time or place for such comments?
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:57
I'm with Raff, let's show some respect people. I'm f**king disgusted at the comments that I've seen around PA and facebook. Human life has a value, be they demonized by the media or not - and let's face it, the guy was a brilliant showman and musician, something that we pride ourselves in respecting.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:58
Don't waste your breath, Mike, or you might be told that the forum is open to all...
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:58
TheProgtologist wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now |
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being. |
Do you have children? |
No, but I don't believe that disqualifies me to distain child molesters. Didn't think mine would be a popular opinion but then I don't have the attachment to MJs music that allows me to view his life through rose colored glasses.
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 19:02
I'm with you Raff, and I feel that my key strokes hold little value, but if the forum is as open as the people who get away with spewing vomit like this then I'm entitled to my opinion.
Dead or not, child molestor or not, we're talking about a breathing, living, conscious entity who had feelings and a life, people who loved and trusted him, individual thoughts and processes.
I f**king hate people who believe in a firm belief of good and evil, there's no such f**king thing! There's a society of morals that mean nothing in the overall scheme and if you can't show respect for the passing of a fellow human, be they abide by your morals or not then you're not worth as much to the world as you believe that person was. Yes, I'm putting you in the position of an ALLEGED child molestor. How does that feel?
do us all a favor and SHUT THE f**k UP!
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 19:03
TheProgtologist wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now |
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being. |
Do you have children? |
Although I think people get hysterical about pedophiles because they don't understand how they operate (I read recently that a school in England banned anyone from photographing soccer games but I can't find a link), the point is not the natural reactions one has towards pedophiles. The point is that he was acquitted, yet despite the law deciding that he was innocent (twice!), since it his opinion that he did it, he feels free to disregard the evidence and declare him a worthless parisite. This isn't OJ, folks.
But even if he were guilty, being a pedophile does not invalidate him as a human being and I take offense at the notion that it does. They are criminals, yes, but their crime is no different from any other. In fact, we should pity them more, as the vast majority of the time they were the victims of abuse themselves.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 19:05
Well, rest in peace. I loved some of him classics in my MTV early childhood, but afterwards I lost all contact with his music.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 19:06
manofmystery wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now |
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being. |
Do you have children? |
No, but I don't believe that disqualifies me to distain child molesters. Didn't think mine would be a popular opinion but then I don't have the attachment to MJs music that allows me to view his life through rose colored glasses. |
He was talking to me, lol.
I don't even like his music. But if you have no empathy for a person whose life was so screwed up by things beyond his control, then I feel sorry for you.
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 19:10
Henry Plainview wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now |
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being. |
Do you have children? |
No, but I don't believe that disqualifies me to distain child molesters. Didn't think mine would be a popular opinion but then I don't have the attachment to MJs music that allows me to view his life through rose colored glasses. |
He was talking to me, lol.
I don't even like his music. But if you have no empathy for a person whose life was so screwed up by things beyond his control, then I feel sorry for you. |
Henry, this is why I love you - we feel the exact same way on this subject
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 19:15
Let's keep this civil.
As Larry King wisely predicted just now, this time next week we will have had our fill of salacious tabloid Michael Jackson stories.
For now can we just behave with a little dignity.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 19:18
Henry, my hat off to you!
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 19:24
Rest in peace, King of Pop. And thanks for some wonderful music.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 19:28
It's sad when any person dies, but not particularly affected for Michael Jackson (I always try to be honest).
What bothers me is that some stations like CNN in Spanish are showing a portrait of almost a hero, something far from reality.
Hope that he finds peace wherever he is now.
Iván
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 19:48
Henry Plainview wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now |
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being. |
Do you have children? |
Although I think people get hysterical about pedophiles because they don't understand how they operate (I read recently that a school in England banned anyone from photographing soccer games but I can't find a link), the point is not the natural reactions one has towards pedophiles. The point is that he was acquitted, yet despite the law deciding that he was innocent (twice!), since it his opinion that he did it, he feels free to disregard the evidence and declare him a worthless parisite. This isn't OJ, folks.
But even if he were guilty, being a pedophile does not invalidate him as a human being and I take offense at the notion that it does. They are criminals, yes, but their crime is no different from any other. In fact, we should pity them more, as the vast majority of the time they were the victims of abuse themselves. |
Slight correction: he settled out of court in 1993 (twice!). And why isn't this OJ? He was found innocent in the same court system by a similar group of "twelve really stupid people who are easily swayed by rich, fat-cat, slimy lawyers, who'll do anything but tell the truth" (its from Wrongfully Accused). OJ was great in the Naked Gun series by the way so I fully expect when he dies he'll get a thread mourning his loss. And King By-Tor: I feel fine today knowing that if I died tomorrow that you'd repect my passing not that I'd care, I'd be dead after all and either in a far better place, far worse place, or just gone.
will step aside now with respect for Tony's wishes of keeping in civil (I submitted the above post before reading his post)
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 20:06
You know, I looked at how many hits this thread has received in a short span of time and thought, "You know what? I bet it's turned into a huge cluster #$&! because of a few comments."
I'm not a fan, nor do I agree with how he conducted his life; however, there has been plenty of time to throw negatives about the man around, but on a thread in honor of a man on the day of his death? And I say this out of respect to the author of the thread than Michael Jackson.
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 20:09
Very Sad News indeed
He may not be prog but none of us can deny that he had a huge influence on popular music. It is this that we should be remembering him for at this time... and let's not forget no one is perfect!
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 20:21
It's weird coz last night before I went to bed, I randomly listened to
Man in The Mirror and Human Nature, not knowing he'd already passed
away. May he rest in peace.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 20:40
manofmystery wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now |
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being. |
Do you have children? |
Although I think people get hysterical about pedophiles because they don't understand how they operate (I read recently that a school in England banned anyone from photographing soccer games but I can't find a link), the point is not the natural reactions one has towards pedophiles. The point is that he was acquitted, yet despite the law deciding that he was innocent (twice!), since it his opinion that he did it, he feels free to disregard the evidence and declare him a worthless parisite. This isn't OJ, folks.
But even if he were guilty, being a pedophile does not invalidate him as a human being and I take offense at the notion that it does. They are criminals, yes, but their crime is no different from any other. In fact, we should pity them more, as the vast majority of the time they were the victims of abuse themselves. |
Argh!
Slight correction: he settled out of court in 1993 (twice!). And why isn't this OJ? He was found innocent in the same court system by a similar group of "twelve really stupid people who are easily swayed by rich, fat-cat, slimy lawyers, who'll do anything but tell the truth" (its from Wrongfully Accused). OJ was great in the Naked Gun series by the way so I fully expect when he dies he'll get a thread mourning his loss. And King By-Tor: I feel fine today knowing that if I died tomorrow that you'd repect my passing not that I'd care, I'd be dead after all and either in a far better place, far worse place, or just gone.
will step aside now with respect for Tony's wishes of keeping in civil (I submitted the above post before reading his post) |
Argh!
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 20:49
Heard about this news earlier....
Complete surprise. I mean the guy was only 50, not overweight, not into drugs, (that we know of at least).
Regardless off his...oddities and various personal questions I feel for the guy. He had no childhood, I mean it's no surprise he was so weird. Despite being one of the best selling artists of all time, he had almost no money left.
Just sad. Very sad...
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 21:01
JJLehto wrote:
Despite being one of the best selling artists of all time, he had almost no money left.
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it's hard to fathom, you'd think with the best selling album ever - millions more copies sold than anything by any other artist - that he'd always have plenty of regular money coming in, strange
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 21:08
JJLehto wrote:
I mean the guy was only 50, not overweight, not into drugs, (that we know of at least).
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_jackson#1993.E2.80.931994:_Sexual_abuse_accusations_and_marriage - Not according to Wikipedia.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 21:09
Indeed.
Also let's not forget this is the third huge name in a very short span. Ed McMahon, Farrah, and now Michael.
....And thank you Henry....I guess that shed's some light on it
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 21:13
Henry Plainview wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now |
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being. |
Do you have children? |
Although I think people get hysterical about pedophiles because they don't understand how they operate (I read recently that a school in England banned anyone from photographing soccer games but I can't find a link), the point is not the natural reactions one has towards pedophiles. The point is that he was acquitted, yet despite the law deciding that he was innocent (twice!), since it his opinion that he did it, he feels free to disregard the evidence and declare him a worthless parisite. This isn't OJ, folks.
But even if he were guilty, being a pedophile does not invalidate him as a human being and I take offense at the notion that it does. They are criminals, yes, but their crime is no different from any other. In fact, we should pity them more, as the vast majority of the time they were the victims of abuse themselves. |
I wasn't endorsing what MoM said nor am I dismissing it Harry,and wasn't trying to pick on you.It's just that being a father my opinions on child molestation or pedophilia might be different than yours.
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 21:28
TheProgtologist wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now |
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being. |
Do you have children? |
Although I think people get hysterical about pedophiles because they don't understand how they operate (I read recently that a school in England banned anyone from photographing soccer games but I can't find a link), the point is not the natural reactions one has towards pedophiles. The point is that he was acquitted, yet despite the law deciding that he was innocent (twice!), since it his opinion that he did it, he feels free to disregard the evidence and declare him a worthless parisite. This isn't OJ, folks.
But even if he were guilty, being a pedophile does not invalidate him as a human being and I take offense at the notion that it does. They are criminals, yes, but their crime is no different from any other. In fact, we should pity them more, as the vast majority of the time they were the victims of abuse themselves. |
I wasn't endorsing what MoM said nor am I dismissing it Harry,and wasn't trying to pick on you.It's just that being a father my opinions on child molestation or pedophilia might be different than yours. |
Ey, that was Henry that said that, not me:P
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 22:44
yes, he wasn't perfect. Not even close. But you don't know what made him into what he was, if he even was it. He was acquited after all.
It's so easy to judge... so easy...
He was a pop legend and I can gladly say I enjoy many of his songs... RIP Jackson...
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 01:56
The T wrote:
yes, he wasn't perfect. Not even close. But you don't know what made him into what he was, if he even was it. He was acquited after all.
It's so easy to judge... so easy...
He was a pop legend and I can gladly say I enjoy many of his songs... RIP Jackson... |
RIP Michael Jackson
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Posted By: Wilcey
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 01:58
It's pretty sad waking up in a world where there is no Micheal Jackson, Micheal was a music genius and he will be missed.
I hope that now he is truly at peace at last.
Wx
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 02:01
and his dancing, really mesmerizing
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 02:22
Manufactured as a child star at the age of 7 & in the public spotlight ever since; sold tens of millions of albums worldwide & produced some of the most memorable videos ever seen - in his prime, he worked with some of the biggest names in music and was a mesmeric live performer, but sadly in his later years became a tragic, withdrawn parody of stardom.
Michael Jackson 1958 - 2009
Rest In Peace
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 04:24
JJLehto wrote:
Heard about this news earlier....
Complete surprise. I mean the guy was only 50, not overweight, not into drugs, (that we know of at least).
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He was addicted to painkillers apparently and other medications I gather.
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 05:07
I woke up today feeling like sh*t from flu and the first thing I hear is this. There goes one of my heroes. RIP and tons of love and clappies for his music
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 05:28
R.I.P. Michael Jackson.
By wanting to please other people you never seemed pleased with yourself.
Such a shame
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 05:39
rest in Peace MIchael Jackson a tru genius of pop-legend, he was a tru entertainer and shaped the path for dancers and singers in 80s, 90s and 00s and revolutionised the music Video,
im listning to Thriller now and is a little bit sad
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 06:47
First off, it's a sad day, the man was great, like his music or not (and for the record; I don't particularly).
As for the paedophile discussion: You must be out of your minds! Nothing was ever proven, in spite of all cash-motivated efforts to the contrary. To my knowledge no stone was left unturned, and all without result. That's good enough for me. I just see a man who was continuously and mercilessly hunted from multiple sides.
The lynch mob mentality is sickening!
Rest in peace, MJ!
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 06:51
I personally think he's guilty as hell, but that's neither here nor there. It's going to be weird that a staple of American culture for the past 3 decades is now dead.
That being said, I never really cared for his stuff. (Even before I was into prog, so I don't get bashed by the "U r a prog bigot" hate train)
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 06:52
I remember when Thriller was at it's zenith, The Jacksons had just released Victory and the tour kicked off at Arrowhead Stadium here in Kansas City. This city was absolutely electric and all the news media had converged. Really was something that night.
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Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 08:26
That explain why the internet was so slow at 0400, British time....... I was never a fan of Michael Jackson. But he made this world a lot more interesting by being what he was. He made hundreds of millions very happy. He was a bit of a nutter and perhaps a genious. Maybe he was regarded a nutter because he was a genious. There is a straight line running from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart to Michael Jackson. The straight line is also called "lack of social skills". Remember, his childhood was not normal. He did not get an upbringing which promoted social skills, to put it mildly. In these circumstances, building Neverland and sleeping in the same bed as teenage boys seems normal. I do not think Michael Jackson became older than 16 years in his own mind. "I have money and I can do whatever I want". That's the ethic. That's lack of social skills. Maybe he was a pedofile. But I just think he did not have a clue. He was a small child in a cruel world. But that's is still no excuse for what he did. I feel sorry for all his fans and those who are crying their eyes out today. Rest In Peace, Michael.
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:53
The Howard Hughes of Pop is gone. Like so many mega-stars , he never came across as a happy camper, rather a tragic figure locked in a gilded cage. We simple citizens take for granted many freedoms, such as going to the street corner store to buy a paper, a walk in the park with poochie or having a nice dinner in a bistro. MJ could never enjoy such simple joys. It proves only that life is a never a free ride.
My kids are stunned into disbelief! I on the other hand am not surprised......
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 11:19
tszirmay wrote:
The Howard Hughes of Pop is gone. Like so many mega-stars , he never came across as a happy camper, rather a tragic figure locked in a gilded cage. We simple citizens take for granted many freedoms, such as going to the street corner store to buy a paper, a walk in the park with poochie or having a nice dinner in a bistro. MJ could never enjoy such simple joys. It proves only that life is a never a free ride. |
Please Thomas, that's not the point, his death is sad for those who feel it (honestly I don't, never liked his music and much less him as a person), but lack of privacy is the price you pay for fame and fortune,
There's other people who can't buy a paper in the corner or have a dog to ride and much less to have a dinner wherever because they can't afford it or live in a box bellow a bridge....But when they die, nobody gives a damn.
He could afford his own amusement park in his huge house, if he lost his money is not anybody's except his fault. He had all the chances and talent enough to make the music all the world liked, 99.99999999999% of the people don't have this oportunity.
He's dead...I'm sorry as I am sorry for average John who dies after 40 years of working from 9 to 5 for 6 days a week and 3 mortgages to pay but much les than the kid who dies in Puno because he's cold and nobody cares because he never made a video. ( http://americaninlima.com/2009/06/02/needless-deaths-in-the-andes/ - http://americaninlima.com/2009/06/02/needless-deaths-in-the-andes/ )
For good or bad, Michael Jackson lived as he wanted to live, he had a chance nobody else has and died because his time came.
Sorry, but I can't proclaim what I don't feel.
Iván
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 11:44
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
tszirmay wrote:
The Howard Hughes of Pop is gone. Like so many mega-stars , he never came across as a happy camper, rather a tragic figure locked in a gilded cage. We simple citizens take for granted many freedoms, such as going to the street corner store to buy a paper, a walk in the park with poochie or having a nice dinner in a bistro. MJ could never enjoy such simple joys. It proves only that life is a never a free ride. |
Please Thomas, tha's not the point, his death is sad for those who feel it (honestly I don't, never liked his music and much less him as a person), but lack of privacy is the price you pay for fame and fortune,
There's other people who can't buy a paper in the corner or have a dog to ride and much less to have a dinner wherever because they can't afford it or live in a box bellow a bridge....But when they die, nobody gives a damn.
He could afford his own amusement park in his huge house, if he lost his money is not anybody's except his fault. He had all the chances and talent enough to make the music all the world liked, 99.99999999999% of the people don't have this oportunity.
He's dead...I'm sorry as I am sorry for average John who dies after 40 years of working from 9 to 5 for 6 days a week and 3 mortgages to pay but much les than the kid who dies in Puno because he's cold and nobody cares because he never made a video. ( http://americaninlima.com/2009/06/02/needless-deaths-in-the-andes/ - http://americaninlima.com/2009/06/02/needless-deaths-in-the-andes/ )
For good or bad, Michael Jackson lived as he wanted to live, he had a chance nobody else has and died because his time came.
Sorry, but I can't proclaim what I don't feel.
Iván
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Well, your just an arrogant proggie! How dare you not like Michael Jackson. You are a bad person because of this. /sarcasm
As a side note, I think it's funny that I made a thread about how it was sad that prog musicians were dying about a month ago, and I was called an idiot by the same ppl that are tearing their clothes in sorrow in this thread.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 11:48
I will always be angry at Thriller for selling more albums than The Wall. It's only exacerbated by my being irritated at him constantly.
But he did have talent, at least before the 90s.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 12:04
TheProgtologist wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now |
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being. |
Do you have children? |
Although I think people get hysterical about pedophiles because they don't understand how they operate (I read recently that a school in England banned anyone from photographing soccer games but I can't find a link), the point is not the natural reactions one has towards pedophiles. The point is that he was acquitted, yet despite the law deciding that he was innocent (twice!), since it his opinion that he did it, he feels free to disregard the evidence and declare him a worthless parisite. This isn't OJ, folks.
But even if he were guilty, being a pedophile does not invalidate him as a human being and I take offense at the notion that it does. They are criminals, yes, but their crime is no different from any other. In fact, we should pity them more, as the vast majority of the time they were the victims of abuse themselves. |
I wasn't endorsing what MoM said nor am I dismissing it Harry,and wasn't trying to pick on you.It's just that being a father my opinions on child molestation or pedophilia might be different than yours. |
I'm a mother, and believe me, I feel very strongly about paedophilia. The whole Michael Jackson paedophilia affair, however, always looked like a sham and extortion scheme to me and nothing else. That being said: I did not like his music at all, but he has done a lot for the visual interpretation of it. Music videos of today would not be what they are without him.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 12:14
he sure sang and made som nice songs my favorits are Human Nature (made by Steve Porcaro of Toto it actualy was a Toto tune the band send as a demotape to Michael and Quincy) Earth Song Beat It Billy Jean the way you make me feel Mand in the Mirror and more
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Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:22
All the newspapers who hungrily printed the endless Wacko Jacko stories are now uniformly eulogising him as the 'pop genius' and are saying things like 'the day the music died' and 'he will be in heaven with Elvis'. It's a common response from the media, who will now do their best to whip up a mass hysteria and encourage people to grieve for this celebrity as if he was a member of their family. I guess that when the whole media circus has died down, Jackson's contribution to popular culture will be put into a more balanced perspective.
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:33
Maybe this sad incident will keep some people away from amphetamines (or whatever he used to "prepare" for the tour) ... I surely hope so.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:43
Oh man, I didn't know he was getting ready for a comeback tour, and supposedly someone helped him pay off all his debt... And my gut feeling, I really don't think he did what he was accused of. Granted, his relationship with those kids was extremely inappropriate.
Like I said, I just feel bad for the guy. R.I.P.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:50
From personal tastes, I could never stand his music.
However, whatever we might think, he clearly gave millions of people a great deal of pleasure, and the media circus that accompanied a clearly very disturbed person was distasteful in the extreme.
As an aside, as soon as I got to work this morning, the text sick jokes were already doing the rounds. None of them in particularly good taste.
Ah well...RIP. It's never nice to hear of a premature death, particularly when children are involved.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:09
hmmm...
heard some songs from Thriller today on the radio ... I had really forgotten how good they were. Cracked some dude up sitting in traffic next to me... I was BELTING out 'Wanna be starting something' with everything I had... guess he was watching me hahah.
Anyway... after hearing Beat It follow that... I had to hear the album again. I was one of the 10% of ALL americans that owned that album. Long since gone though. Every CD store in the DC area is completely sold out of Michael Jackson.
even the limited edition of 'Michael Jackson sings Focus'.
really hit home that regardless of everything about him.... he was a true talent and made such great music.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVSYJXpD2_E - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVSYJXpD2_E
a yong and talented boy from this video you cant beleeve what this boy is gona du later on his life. here he looks gentle and inocent
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 15:15
I was very much into his music in the 1980's, in the age of Thriller especially.
When a radio station played some old '80's classics today I was impressed once again. He was a great artist, a talented media phenomenon and a skilled composer, and I feel very sad, the road he has taken through the years, both musically and as how he got himself into the press through the years, with or without his own doing.
I must say I feel very sad when I think about his death now. He gave the world some great music, but his legs seemed to be to weak to handle the fame, the fortune and all the opportunities that crossed his way. He seemed to estrange himself from the world more and more.
Well, a childhood hero has gone, and I'm more shocked by it than I thought, given the fact that from Bad on my interest in his music was declining by every album, and I couldn't feel an emotional attachment to the way he presented himself in the media.
But today I feel very sad after all
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 15:15
I never believed the pedaphile accusations personally,i felt strongly that people just wanted his money. He was such a boy at heart but he should have known that red flags pop up when adults spend a lot of time playing with children who are not their own, and especially sleeping in the same bad as them. It may have been innocent but come on your just asking for a law suit.Naive to a fault.
I was there in the eighties as a huge music fan,he was all over the place of course,but when you're into IRON MAIDEN,LED ZEPPELIN,BLACK SABBATH etc, you can appreciate that i just couldn't stand his music.I really had no appreciation for it. I remember being so ticked off that Eddie Van Halen played on one of his tunes. Later i felt they made a good pair.
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 15:29
Guilty or not (and I'm afraid he probably was because of the fact that over 90% of accused are, proven data from people who study abusive relationships) the man was a very troubled human being with a distorted sense of reality.
Thriller was the first album I owned and I lip-synced and tried to dance to it just as millions of others did. I hope he finds peace now, and that what had been so twisted can be healed.
But we should name mental sickness for what it is. And yes I am the father of two small children. And yes I deal with real abuse victims in my job. I do not wish vengeance or hate on perpetrators, just hope beyond reason for healing. Sometimes it happens.
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 15:29
Mourners even on a prog site.... What a guy, eh?
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 15:39
Conor Fynes wrote:
Mourners even on a prog site.... What a musician, eh? |
this is a music forum... not a recruiting center for the moral majority.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 15:48
Negoba wrote:
Guilty or not (and I'm afraid he probably was because of the fact that over 90% of accused are, proven data from people who study abusive relationships) the man was a very troubled human being with a distorted sense of reality.
Thriller was the first album I owned and I lip-synced and tried to dance to it just as millions of others did. I hope he finds peace now, and that what had been so twisted can be healed.
But we should name mental sickness for what it is. And yes I am the father of two small children. And yes I deal with real abuse victims in my job. I do not wish vengeance or hate on perpetrators, just hope beyond reason for healing. Sometimes it happens. |
This deserves a whole lot of . Somebody who had what so many people are ready to do mayhem for - oodles of money - and was unable to enjoy life is to be pitied, in my very humble opinion. And this has nothing to do with being a fan ,a progger, a bigot, or whatever.
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